pictures of door projects? (and info)

lowranger · 11-03-2009, 07:58 PM

does anyone have any pictures/projects that include midbass drivers? im about to get started on my doors with kicker 8" midbass drivers and diamond 5.25 (m3) components. my focals are too bright for me.

Any suggestions with placement of drivers? this is going to be fiberglassed.

i will finish off my trunk with a diamond mac daddy 12.8 sub, but i love my midbass and got these for a really good deal.

thanks in advance.

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couchflambeau · 11-03-2009, 10:22 PM

Sorry, no pics for you but something to consider.

If imaging/staging is particularly important to you, might wanna consider putting the 5" forward to the kick. I realize it's easier to do the two drivers in the door and mod one panel only. I'm assuming the 8 will go in the lower/forward corner of the door... anyplace else in the door for the mid is going to be bad in terms of path-length (not that the factory location was particularily good in the first place). You might try correcting w/ TA, but nothing is better than proper placement.

I'm going down the same path in spring... active system w/ Bit one, 8" aurasound in the door, and a/d/s 4" component set most likely to go in the kick panels.

FWIW anyways...

lowranger · 11-03-2009, 11:07 PM

heck ya!. glad to know you are going the same route. i am, of course, going for imaging. all around great sound is important.
i thought about kicks, but im worried about the clutch, but I am sure it wont be too much of an issue only being 5.25, but if i punch it with my foot, ill cry a little bit. i will have to see my options when i get my car back and place everything.

hookedontronics · 11-03-2009, 11:53 PM

I am also about to start on kicks for the mids and tweets of my jl 3 ways. I'll post a write up and how to when I get the ball rolling

boostdog · 11-04-2009, 09:44 AM

look in the custom enclosure impreza thread i started..there are some pics of some door panels folks have done.

FocusdSound · 11-04-2009, 12:24 PM

Here you go.....hope to wrap these tonight FINALLY. Long story.

Hope that helps a bit.

couchflambeau · 11-04-2009, 09:56 PM

Just my luck... new pics and my work computer doesn't show photobucket... :/

Everything's a tradeoff... you just try to pic the gear that will work best in your application... I'd prefer a 5 1/4" for the mid (lower the crossover pt from mid to midbass) but space constraints to the kick make me lean towards the 4" to keep the kicks smaller. Sometimes you just gotta go with what you have though and hope for the best.

I wish I could get started on mine but in ND it's already too cold to lay fiberglass in the garage and I really don't feel like putzing with spaceheaters for something that can wait til spring...

Token-Negro · 11-04-2009, 10:37 PM

lowranger · 11-04-2009, 11:40 PM

DANG token! that looks amazing. thats the idea i had but was also thinking about putting in kicks.
im debating on what you are doing focusd. both are great ideas. the "ideal" sound should have the woofers close together so it sounds as one. but which one is functional is best.

lowranger · 11-04-2009, 11:46 PM

AND token is using diamond! hell yea

Token-Negro · 11-05-2009, 04:24 AM

Those were done by the guys at AI, 1 of 2 sets they made 6" 4" tweet setup. sound awsome. Subaru lights up when the dome light comes on

lowranger · 11-05-2009, 04:34 AM

sounds very flashy!. i like. but mine will be more simple by me

couchflambeau · 11-06-2009, 03:18 AM

Hurry up and get those panels wrapped... those kicks are killer! Nice work Mike....

dc_adio28 · 11-06-2009, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Token-Negro

Damn Sexy. I think I just nutted a bit.

Chad W · 11-06-2009, 09:38 AM

Sexy yes, but the mid is firing into your knee. Do you want your audio to look good or sound good? Being a Saab person at heart I have intimate knowledge with 4" components and no factory locations. A 1"-4"-6.5"/8" component set can sounds absolutely fantastic.

Token-Negro · 11-07-2009, 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad W

Sexy yes, but the mid is firing into your knee. Do you want your audio to look good or sound good? Being a Saab person at heart I have intimate knowledge with 4" components and no factory locations. A 1"-4"-6.5"/8" component set can sounds absolutely fantastic.

To be honest they sounded better then any other Subaru I had been in, so I had them made. They may have worked better in my car due to the fact the racing seats changed your seating position just enough and gave them a little more air space in front. I don't know, everyone has their own idea as to what sounds good and works best.

bpang1 · 11-07-2009, 07:44 PM

Wow Token...I like that setup.

Akrexak · 11-07-2009, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Token-Negro

Damn, thats nice... would be bangin if it lit up....

skateboy16 · 11-07-2009, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Token-Negro

Those were done by the guys at AI, 1 of 2 sets they made 6" 4" tweet setup. sound awsome. Subaru lights up when the dome light comes on

get out of town!! those are freakin sweeeeet!

couchflambeau · 11-08-2009, 12:11 PM

They look great but I'm w/ Chad on this one... even w/ time alignment there's only so much you can do to fix speaker placement electronically. Path length from the ear to mid is critical to soundstage/imaging. I don't doubt they setup sounds great, but from the SQ/Audiophile side the arrangement is compromised.

Not knocking the workmanship... it looks great!

Daishi00 · 11-08-2009, 12:23 PM

Pathlength is obviously important, but in a compromised listening position such as a car so the best you're going to get is panned monophonic (NOT stereo) and it's a near field environment it's not nearly as important as we try to make it out to being. If you're going for absolute perfect staging then yes. For most people? Not that big of a deal.

couchflambeau · 11-08-2009, 12:45 PM

It's not near field... it's car field (words of Mark Eldridge... not mine).

But I will agree... for MOST people... it's fine.

The OP seemed very open to input so far as what would be ideal... so I'm tellin' him what I think.

11-03-2009, 07:58 PM	#1
lowranger Scooby Specialist Member#: 124370 Join Date: Aug 2006 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: coppell TX. College Station Vehicle: 03 wrx stg 2.30 I can't spell Jsut	pictures of door projects? (and info) does anyone have any pictures/projects that include midbass drivers? im about to get started on my doors with kicker 8" midbass drivers and diamond 5.25 (m3) components. my focals are too bright for me. Any suggestions with placement of drivers? this is going to be fiberglassed. i will finish off my trunk with a diamond mac daddy 12.8 sub, but i love my midbass and got these for a really good deal. thanks in advance. * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

11-08-2009, 12:45 PM	#22
couchflambeau Scooby Specialist Member#: 102145 Join Date: Dec 2005 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Grand Forks, ND Vehicle: '04 STi/Cobb St. II 18L Java Black Pearl	It's not near field... it's car field (words of Mark Eldridge... not mine). But I will agree... for MOST people... it's fine. The OP seemed very open to input so far as what would be ideal... so I'm tellin' him what I think. Last edited by couchflambeau; 11-08-2009 at 12:51 PM.

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11-03-2009, 10:22 PM	#2
couchflambeau Scooby Specialist Member#: 102145 Join Date: Dec 2005 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Grand Forks, ND Vehicle: '04 STi/Cobb St. II 18L Java Black Pearl	Sorry, no pics for you but something to consider. If imaging/staging is particularly important to you, might wanna consider putting the 5" forward to the kick. I realize it's easier to do the two drivers in the door and mod one panel only. I'm assuming the 8 will go in the lower/forward corner of the door... anyplace else in the door for the mid is going to be bad in terms of path-length (not that the factory location was particularily good in the first place). You might try correcting w/ TA, but nothing is better than proper placement. I'm going down the same path in spring... active system w/ Bit one, 8" aurasound in the door, and a/d/s 4" component set most likely to go in the kick panels. FWIW anyways...

11-03-2009, 11:07 PM	#3
lowranger Scooby Specialist Member#: 124370 Join Date: Aug 2006 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: coppell TX. College Station Vehicle: 03 wrx stg 2.30 I can't spell Jsut	heck ya!. glad to know you are going the same route. i am, of course, going for imaging. all around great sound is important. i thought about kicks, but im worried about the clutch, but I am sure it wont be too much of an issue only being 5.25, but if i punch it with my foot, ill cry a little bit. i will have to see my options when i get my car back and place everything.

11-03-2009, 11:53 PM	#4
hookedontronics Scooby Newbie Member#: 216078 Join Date: Jul 2009 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Glenville, NY Vehicle: 2006 WRX Limited Aspen White	I am also about to start on kicks for the mids and tweets of my jl 3 ways. I'll post a write up and how to when I get the ball rolling

11-04-2009, 09:44 AM	#5
boostdog Scooby Specialist Member#: 149752 Join Date: May 2007 Location: NW Arkansas Vehicle: 07 wrx tr rr tuned stg2 12.9@103mph	look in the custom enclosure impreza thread i started..there are some pics of some door panels folks have done.

11-04-2009, 12:24 PM	#6
FocusdSound Scooby Newbie Member#: 172649 Join Date: Feb 2008 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Raleigh NC Vehicle: 2005 GT30R'd STI Obsidian Black Pearl	Here you go.....hope to wrap these tonight FINALLY. Long story. Hope that helps a bit.

11-04-2009, 09:56 PM	#7
couchflambeau Scooby Specialist Member#: 102145 Join Date: Dec 2005 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Grand Forks, ND Vehicle: '04 STi/Cobb St. II 18L Java Black Pearl	Just my luck... new pics and my work computer doesn't show photobucket... :/ Everything's a tradeoff... you just try to pic the gear that will work best in your application... I'd prefer a 5 1/4" for the mid (lower the crossover pt from mid to midbass) but space constraints to the kick make me lean towards the 4" to keep the kicks smaller. Sometimes you just gotta go with what you have though and hope for the best. I wish I could get started on mine but in ND it's already too cold to lay fiberglass in the garage and I really don't feel like putzing with spaceheaters for something that can wait til spring...

11-04-2009, 10:37 PM	#8
Token-Negro Scooby Specialist Member#: 81659 Join Date: Feb 2005 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Renton, WA Vehicle: 200X Impreza Proper Fitment Crew

11-04-2009, 11:40 PM	#9
lowranger Scooby Specialist Member#: 124370 Join Date: Aug 2006 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: coppell TX. College Station Vehicle: 03 wrx stg 2.30 I can't spell Jsut	DANG token! that looks amazing. thats the idea i had but was also thinking about putting in kicks. im debating on what you are doing focusd. both are great ideas. the "ideal" sound should have the woofers close together so it sounds as one. but which one is functional is best.

11-04-2009, 11:46 PM	#10
lowranger Scooby Specialist Member#: 124370 Join Date: Aug 2006 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: coppell TX. College Station Vehicle: 03 wrx stg 2.30 I can't spell Jsut	AND token is using diamond! hell yea

11-05-2009, 04:24 AM	#11
Token-Negro Scooby Specialist Member#: 81659 Join Date: Feb 2005 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Renton, WA Vehicle: 200X Impreza Proper Fitment Crew	Those were done by the guys at AI, 1 of 2 sets they made 6" 4" tweet setup. sound awsome. Subaru lights up when the dome light comes on

11-05-2009, 04:34 AM	#12
lowranger Scooby Specialist Member#: 124370 Join Date: Aug 2006 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: coppell TX. College Station Vehicle: 03 wrx stg 2.30 I can't spell Jsut	sounds very flashy!. i like. but mine will be more simple by me

11-06-2009, 03:18 AM	#13
couchflambeau Scooby Specialist Member#: 102145 Join Date: Dec 2005 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Grand Forks, ND Vehicle: '04 STi/Cobb St. II 18L Java Black Pearl	Hurry up and get those panels wrapped... those kicks are killer! Nice work Mike....

11-06-2009, 09:38 AM	#15
Chad W Scooby Specialist Member#: 77975 Join Date: Dec 2004 Vehicle: 2005 9-2x Aero Black	Sexy yes, but the mid is firing into your knee. Do you want your audio to look good or sound good? Being a Saab person at heart I have intimate knowledge with 4" components and no factory locations. A 1"-4"-6.5"/8" component set can sounds absolutely fantastic.

11-07-2009, 07:44 PM	#17
bpang1 Scooby Specialist Member#: 67225 Join Date: Jul 2004 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Cincinnati, OH Vehicle: 2004 WRX Wagon JBP	Wow Token...I like that setup.

11-08-2009, 12:11 PM	#20
couchflambeau Scooby Specialist Member#: 102145 Join Date: Dec 2005 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Grand Forks, ND Vehicle: '04 STi/Cobb St. II 18L Java Black Pearl	They look great but I'm w/ Chad on this one... even w/ time alignment there's only so much you can do to fix speaker placement electronically. Path length from the ear to mid is critical to soundstage/imaging. I don't doubt they setup sounds great, but from the SQ/Audiophile side the arrangement is compromised. Not knocking the workmanship... it looks great!

11-08-2009, 12:23 PM	#21
Daishi00 Scooby Guru Member#: 78952 Join Date: Jan 2005 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: BSG junkie Vehicle: 2005 WRX CGM	Pathlength is obviously important, but in a compromised listening position such as a car so the best you're going to get is panned monophonic (NOT stereo) and it's a near field environment it's not nearly as important as we try to make it out to being. If you're going for absolute perfect staging then yes. For most people? Not that big of a deal.