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moss
05-22-2006, 11:57 PM
I'm going to try to be as descriptive as possible on this...

This transmission was just installed along with a new clutch and stainless steel clutch line. I bled the clutch line as per Subaru. Holding in the slave piston, etc. It looked liked i got all the air bubbles out, but I could be wrong. there were small bubbles within the fluid along the hose I was bleeding with. but nothing that seemed like it should be an issue. After I bled the clutch, the pedal felt firm and felt like it should, sprang back from the floor, etc. (however, I haven drive a 5spd car in over a year). On the inital startup and standing still I was able to shift 1-5 WITHOUT an issue, drove it about a mile shifting 1-3, at which point I was unable to shift down into 2nd at all when I was slowing down.

Symptoms:
When the car is running - seems as if the clutch will not fully disengage when the clutch pedal is depressed. When the pedal is depressed, I cannot shift into 1-5 at all, and R just grinds. When driving, I can somewhat shift 1-2-3, but no grinding.

When the car is in neutral and running, and I depress the clutch about 30%, there is a strange rattling comming from the tranmission area(normal? I dont know... this is my first time with a turbo motor and trans)

When the car is shut off - With the clutch pedal depressed, the car will shift into 1-5 and R without an issue.

I have to start my car in gear to make it move, and it feels like when the clutch pedal is about 10-20% off the floor, the clutch engages.


No idea what is going on. Throwout bearing? Clutch slave? clutch master? a seal? still air in the lines? pedal adjustment?

Keith

gpatmac
05-23-2006, 12:21 AM
I've got nothing but questions.

Who installed it? Is it an oem clutch? After you shifted 1-3, were there any noises or unusual behavior? Is the pilot bearing new? Are you confident that the clutch release fork is solidly inserted into the throwout bearing collar? Is the trans brand new and if not, who rebuilt it? Any specialty to the trans, as in were any mechanical pieces replaced or strengthened in it? I'm not too certain on any trans besides my own, but is the clutch release spring, if it has one, on there and in good shape (the one external attached to the release fork?)

I'm sure you'll figure it out soon and it's probably a very minor fix.

moss
05-23-2006, 12:02 PM
RS22b on here installed the shiftfork and TOB. Myself and another board member installed the clutch. It is an Exedy Organic for the WRX trans.

There were no strange noises or unusual behavior. Pilot bearing is NOT new, the transmission only has ~15k miles on it. Yes I am confident that the shiftfork is solidly inserted.

As I said before the transmission is used, but barely, 15k miles. Clutch release spring IS on there and in good shape....

im going to try bleeding the system again today

:(

gpatmac
05-23-2006, 08:49 PM
Any news?

If bleeding the clutch didn't solve it, I'd look at a new pilot bearing first then maybe pull your trans again and take it to the dealership to have them diagnose it.

I apologize. When I was asking who installed it, I meant it as rhetorical, not to dime anyone. If you trusted him then he obviously has earned your trust. I just meant, was it someone you trusted or somebody shady.:)

stupidguy
05-24-2006, 03:42 PM
u mess with the length of linkage on the clutch shaft?

try holding down the pokey thing of the slave cylinder while you bleed it so it cant wiggle. ive had air get trapped there before.

moss
05-24-2006, 04:38 PM
Linkage on the clutch shaft??

I held down the pistion out of the Slave cylinder the entire time while bleeding.

Still no luck.

Adjust the clutch pedal?

Bad Slave? Bad master?

stupidguy
05-25-2006, 03:33 PM
clutch MC has a shaft. its adjustible. adjust it. mab somethign will happen.

does stuff happen at the slave side when you hit the pedal?

moss
05-25-2006, 03:35 PM
yes, the slave pistion moves the shiftfork.

Pacobeagle
05-27-2006, 10:14 AM
What "stupidguy" is speaking of is the Clutch pedal freeplay. You should see a 12mm jamnut on a shaft above the gas pedal. Move the clutch pedal and you should see the rod I am talking about. Loosen the 12mm nut and turn the rod. This will adjust the length. Take is slowly, adjust 1-2 turns one way(say clockwise) and see what the results are. If that doesn't help, turn the rod the other way.

Jose

moss
05-28-2006, 11:23 PM
I really doubt its the shaft for the clutch pedal, it feels like something else.

When the car is off, now I am noticing that sometimes, it wont go into geat at all. I turn the car on and then off and it will go into then.

other times with the car off it will only go into 1st and 4th, and nothing else.

Is there interlock on a 5MT? I got an interlock code the other day when I was datalogging the engine issues (OBDII port).

keith