If Schumi wins at Monaco it will be his first time in 5 years and he'll tie Senna's record for the number of Monaco wins.

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(Couldn't get Ferg's circuit maps to load, so I thought I'd use the FIA's map.)


TV Times
***All times Pacific***
**Thursday**, May 25
Practice 2, 05.00AM on Speed TV

Saturday, May 27
Qualifying, 05.00AM on Speed TV

Sunday, May 28
Grand Prix, 09.30AM on CBS (Double check your local CBS listing)

This race has got a lot of strategy involved. and its probably the track where qualifing has the biggest impact. Any who Alonso FTW

Jenson Button FTW.

Jenson Button FTW.
I hope so, but here's what I picked:


M.Schumacher F.Alonso G.Fisichella K.Raikkonen J.Button F.Massa J.Montoya R.Barrichello

1. Alonso
2. Schumacher
3. Button


in that order.

1. M. Schumacher
2. F.Alonso
3. F.Massa
4. G.Fisichella
5. K.Raikkonen
6. N.Rosberg
7. J.Montoya
8. R.Barrichello


Mika

1. F.Alonso
2. M.Schumacher
3. G.Fisichella
4. J.Button
5. K.Raikkonen
6. J.Montoya
7. M.Webber
8. S.Speed

Monaco

1. F.Alonso
2. M.Schumacher
3. J.Montoya
4. G.Fisichella
5. F.Massa
6. J.Button
7. N.Heidfeld
8. M.Webber

It's Kimi's turn to break this week.

FYI Practice starts Thursday

Here are my picks:

M. Schumacher
F. Alonso
K. Raikkonen
F. Massa
G. Fisichella
R. Barrichello
J. Montoya
N. Rosberg

I think my boy might have a chance here (wishful thinking I'm sure):

K.Raikkonen
M.Schumacher
F.Alonso
F.Massa
G.Fisichella
M.Webber
J.Button
N.Rosberg

Alonso
Schumi
Massa
Raikkonen
Fisi
Button
R. Schumacher
J. Trulli

Here we goooo:

P1. F.Alonso
P2. M.Schumacher
P3. K.Raikkonen
P4. J.Button
P5. G.Fisichella
P6. F.Massa
P7. J.Montoya
P8. M.Webber

my picks:

1. Button
2. Alonso
3. Fisichella
4. Montoya
5. Barrichello
6. Massa
7. R. Schumacher

M. Schumacher with a DNF at Monaco.

Monaco story time. :D

Monaco GP Preview: Facts & Stats
Sean Kelly looks back at the rich history of the Monaco Grand Prix, and the remarkable records that have been set there throughout the years

By Sean Kelly
autosport.com writer

With exactly one third of the 2006 season completed, the Formula One circus moves on to the jewel in its crown - Monaco.

As you might expect from a circuit unlike no other on the contemporary F1 calendar, the Monaco Grand Prix has served to underline the talent of some of the greats in F1 history, while at the same time giving some more unheralded drivers their 15 minutes of fame.


The inaugural Monaco Grand Prix was held in 1929, based on a suggestion by local cigarette magnate Anthony Noghes (after whom the last corner on the circuit is now named). The first winner was a British driver, William Grover Williams, whose colorful life ended when he was shot by the Gestapo during World War II.

Monaco was scheduled as round two of the inaugural Formula One World Championship in 1950. Scuderia Ferrari made their championship debut, having elected to miss the opener at Silverstone, and they brought three cars - for Alberto Ascari, Luigi Villoresi and Raymond Sommer.

The race was marred by a first-lap pile-up that eliminated seven cars. Juan Manuel Fangio narrowly escaped hitting the wrecked machinery next time by, and he continued on to take victory in what still stands as the slowest championship race in history - the only one ever to average under 100km/h (98.7). Ascari's Ferrari was second.

On the bottom step of the podium was 1931 race winner Louis Chiron, marking the only time a Monegasque driver ever scored championship points, and one of only two instances that a driver in his fifties would climb an F1 podium (Luigi Fagioli at Reims in 1951 is the other one). Chiron, who died in 1979, also has a corner named after him on the modern-day circuit - the fast left entry into the swimming pool complex was dedicated in his name when it was re-profiled in 1997.

It seems unthinkable now, but the Monaco Grand Prix was left off the schedule after that 1950 race and did not reappear on the championship trail until 1955 - it has been ever present since then. The '55 race is most remembered for Alberto Ascari's crash into the harbour in the Lancia D50. He miraculously survived, only to be killed just four days later in a testing crash at Monza. Ten years later, Paul Hawkins became the second (and, thankfully, last) driver to end up in the Mediterranean Sea during a Monaco GP.

The 1956 race provides a unique statistical moment. At the opening round in Argentina, Luigi Musso and Juan Manuel Fangio took one of the three shared driver victories in F1 history, thus sharing the points ahead of Jean Behra's Maserati. Stirling Moss won at Monte Carlo, and second-placed Fangio again took shared points (with Peter Collins), ahead of Behra.

All this left Behra in the points lead after Monaco, and it stands as the only time in F1 history that a driver who never won a Grand Prix has led the championship.

Frenchman Maurice Trintignant made a name for himself by winning in both 1955 and 1958, despite never winning any other race in his career. The versatile Frenchman, who was caught up in the first lap shunt in 1950, was still racing in F1 as late as 1964, and his 82 starts briefly stood as the all-time record, until eclipsed in quick succession by Jack Brabham (Italy 1966) and Bruce McLaren (Holland 1968).

McLaren's name has many statistical relationships with Monaco. The Kiwi arrived for the 1960 race as the youngest man ever to lead the championship (22 years 161 days), a record which still stands. Ten years later, and the 1970 race would be the last of his 100 starts, one month before he was killed testing at Goodwood.

However, it was his 1966 appearance that helped shape the identity of Formula One ever since. Taking a leaf from former teammate Jack Brabham's book, he made his debut as an owner-driver, driving the McLaren-Ford M2F. Pre-dating the Ford DFV V8 by over a year, the enormous USAC-based engine created more noise than power, and the car lasted just nine laps before suffering a terminal oil leak.

This coming weekend, the team will mark their 40th anniversary, having started over 600 championship races (2nd all-time) and taken 148 race victories - 13 of which have been around the Monaco streets, more than any other constructor. Last year's pole for Kimi Raikkonen also put McLaren ahead of Lotus as the team with the most poles around Monte Carlo, with 10. Lotus had held the record since they became the first two-time pole winners there in 1961.

Of all of McLaren's iconic staff members, such as Teddy Mayer, Ron Dennis and Jo Ramirez, Tyler Alexander is the only man on duty for the team this weekend that was also present for their debut.

For a circuit that sets the great drivers apart unlike any other, it seems absurd that Jim Clark never won this race. He was a four-time pole-sitter, but victory eluded him - most significantly in both 1963, when he crashed while leading 22 laps from the end, and 1965, when he skipped the whole weekend so as to take part in the Indianapolis 500 (which he won). It was the only one of the first seven rounds not won by the Scot, suggesting that '65 was his best opportunity. As it turned out, he was not the only British driver for whom Monaco would be jinxed...

As Clark floundered, Graham Hill established himself as Mr. Monaco. He made his Grand Prix debut for the brand new Lotus team at Monaco in 1958. He then proceeded to win five times between 1963 and 1969. His '68 win came in a race with only five classified finishers, still the joint-lowest classified total ever. 1969 was the last of his 14 career wins, he was the first man ever to reach 150 career starts at the 1973 race, and 1975 saw his last appearance as a driver, failing to qualify the new Hill GH1 chassis. His 17-year F1 career is still the longest in history.

Hill took victory in 1969 ahead of fellow British driver Piers Courage, who was driving for another fledgling team - Frank Williams Racing Cars. This would be Frank's first F1 podium as a team owner, in only his team's second appearance. He would have to wait another 10 years before making it into the F1 winner's circle, by which time he had established Williams Grand Prix Engineering with Patrick Head.

The finish of the 1970 race was dramatic, with Jochen Rindt pressuring Jack Brabham into a mistake at the final corner of the final lap. Rindt's victory is one of ten races in history that a driver has won by leading only the last lap (the most recent was Giancarlo Fisichella at the 2003 Brazilian GP).

Jean-Pierre Beltoise took his only career win in the pouring rain of the 1972 event, also giving BRM their last ever victory in the sport. His victory took nearly 2.5 hours, after which a two-hour time limit was imposed on all F1 races.

Another man to take his sole F1 victory at Monaco was Olivier Panis, who won a crazy 1996 race for Ligier from 14th on the grid, in a race where only three cars saw the flag. It was Ligier's first win since the 1981 Canadian GP, the longest gap ever between victories for a constructor.

Bizarrely, given the conditions of the day, the '72 event holds the record for most finishers in a Monaco GP (17). It was the last race to be held on the "old" Monte Carlo circuit, before construction of the Loews hotel, swimming pool complex and Rascasse buildings permanently changed the appearance of the harbour front.

Further alterations were made in 1976, when both Anthony Noghes and Ste. Devote were tightened up; in 1986, when the very quick chicane was replaced with a tighter version; 1997, when the walls were moved back at the swimming pool; and in 2003, when the approach to Rascasse was straightened up, along with moving several barriers further back.

The 1982 Monaco GP was one of the most chaotic in F1 history. It came two weeks after the death of Gilles Villeneuve at Zolder, and a month after the FISA/FOCA "civil war" saw only 14 cars take the start at Imola. This time there would be a full field, and just as it seemed Alain Prost would cruise to victory (having led since lap 15), a rain shower just three laps from the end contributed to Prost suffering a heavy shunt at the chicane.

This left Riccardo Patrese in the lead, until he spun in the damp at Loews hairpin, handing the lead to Didier Pironi. The Frenchman then crawled to a halt at the entry to the tunnel on the last lap, out of fuel. The same thing happened to Andrea de Cesaris at the top of the hill before he could capitalize, and Derek Daly's opportunity disappeared when he too fell foul of the damp conditions, breaking off the rear wing.

In the confusion, Patrese had got going again, and completed the remaining lap and a half to take his first career victory. Had he not done so, it would have been Nigel Mansell taking the honours - but as he was a lap behind Patrese, he was classified fourth, behind Pironi and de Cesaris, both of whom were stopped out on the track!

Always the entertainer, Mansell's luck would be at its most wretched at Monte Carlo. He impressed with third on the grid on his debut in 1981, Lotus's best of the year, only to suffer mechanical failure early on.

In 1984, he qualified on the front row and passed Prost for the lead, only to infamously aquaplane off at Massanet. In 1987, he was leading when his Honda-powered Williams lost boost pressure, and in 1990, an early collision with Thierry Boutsen left him 16th. A terrific recovery drive - including catching and passing Boutsen for fourth - was ruined when his Ferrari's gearbox broke (a not-uncommon occurrence in the early days of semi-automatic transmissions).

Above all else, it's 1992 that Mansell will regard as the one that got away. In the midst of his all-conquering season aboard the Williams FW14B, he led the first 70 laps from pole position, when suddenly he felt a rear wheel go loose in the tunnel. Despite being nearly 30 seconds ahead of Ayrton Senna at the time, he emerged from his precautionary pitstop behind the Brazilian, and despite having a much better car on brand new tyres, he couldn't find a way past Senna, who held him off in the closest finish (0.215 seconds) in Monaco's GP history.

It is Senna who owns the record for most Monaco Grand Prix wins, with six. He first announced his overwhelming talent to the world in the torrential rains of 1984, navigating his Toleman up from 13th to a second place finish, while setting the fastest lap, overtaking two previous world champions along the way (Keke Rosberg and Niki Lauda).

His first Monaco win came in 1987 for Lotus-Honda, and it was technologically significant as the first ever victory for a car with active suspension. The Brazilian was just 12 laps away from winning the '88 race when he clouted the barrier at the Portier, but he then proceeded to lead every single racing lap in Monaco from the start of the 1989 race until the end of the 1991 event.

After his dramatic 1992 victory, he broke Graham Hill's record with an ironic win for McLaren in 1993 - ironic, in that race leader Michael Schumacher suffered an active suspension failure, the same technology that helped Senna win the '87 race. Fate decreed that it would be a sixth win for Senna, but having scored five successes of his own here, Schumacher can tie yet another of the Brazilian's lauded records on Sunday.

M. Schumacher
Alonso
Massa
Raikkonen
Fisichella
Montoya
Barrichello
Button

Hey pick-6-ers. Don't forget that Monaco begins on Thursday and not Friday. Get your picks in today.

Here's mine:
Alonso
Button
MS
Raikkonen
Massa
JPM
Rubens
Villeneuve

Since I never pick I will add to the thread with some pics of the jewel in the crown of F1.
http://www.itv-f1.com/ImageLibrary/37225_2.jpg
http://www.itv-f1.com/ImageLibrary/37221_2.jpg
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http://www.itv-f1.com/ImageLibrary/37214_2.jpg
http://www.itv-f1.com/ImageLibrary/37207_2.jpg
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http://images.f1racing.net/large/59714.jpg

Rindt's victory is one of ten races in history that a driver has won by leading only the last lap (the most recent was Giancarlo Fisichella at the 2003 Brazilian GP).

Alonso at 2005 European GP?


My Picks:

P1. F. Alonso
P2. M. Schumacher
P3. G. Fisichella
P4. F. Massa
P5. J. Button
P6. K. Raikkonen
P7. JP. Montoya
P8. R. Barrichello

why is it called Pick 6 if you have to pick 8? never changed the name when they changed the point system?

Alonso at 2005 European GP?

I was thinking about that one too. I'd have to check but I believe Alonso had led at least a handful of laps in that race before Kimi's suspension went blammo. The statistic is talking about drivers who have won races while leading only the final lap, or at least I think that's what they're talking about.

Ah, just checked it out, Alonso led a total of eight laps during that race. :)


Anyone else worried about the McLaren's reliability in hot weather?

http://www.pbase.com/image/60729773/large.jpg

Here's another pic for a caption contest....

http://www.pbase.com/image/60729772/large.jpg


My picks for this weekend.


J.Button
F.Alonso
K.Raikkonen
M.Schumacher
N.Rosberg
J.Villeneuve
J.Trulli
S.Speed


:)

M.Schumacher
F.Alonso
F.Massa
J.Button
K.Raikkonen
R.Barrichello
G.Fisichella
D.Coulthard

I always like DC here, but I can't place him very high with so many good teams this year.

Steve

http://www.pbase.com/image/60729772/large.jpg


"OK, I know I am the 'Ice Man' but this is ridiculous!"

Is it just me or does he have a, "Hey, this sort of makes my willy tingle." expression. :lol:

it seems like the performance on these things just melt away during the race

Is it just me or does he have a, "Hey, this sort of makes my willy tingle." expression. :lol:
ZING!


:lol:

"How the hell I'm I gonna warm these tires up?"




Lame, I know.

http://www.pbase.com/image/60729772/large.jpg

"I didn't think they would actually freeze our developments"

Is it just me or does he have a, "Hey, this sort of makes my willy tingle." expression. :lol:
Thats the same look I get on my face when I float a river and pee down stream. Its like mother nature is helping you by pulling it out of you. :)

http://www.pbase.com/image/60729772/large.jpg

And rappers thought their cars had "ICE".... :rolleyes:

my picks

1) F.Alonso
2) M.Schumacher
3) K.Raikkonen
4) G.Fisichella
5) J.Button
6) J.Trulli
7) F.Massa
8) J.Montoya

http://www.pbase.com/image/60729773/large.jpg

:huh: Jeez! No wonder he gets bombed in london clubs during the off-season... These pics have him resemble a circus freak of a celebrity... not one of the best drivers in the world...

Here is the pertinent excerpt from the McLaren contract, "Also, please check your dignity at the door for promotional events, when requested to do so."

Schu will take it this weekend.

http://www.pbase.com/image/60729772/large.jpg

Poor Kimi. I think his ass is frozen to the car....

Monaco

1. F.Alonso
2. M.Schumacher
3. J.Montoya
4. G.Fisichella
5. F.Massa
6. J.Button
7. N.Heidfeld
8. M.Webber

It's Kimi's turn to break this week.

FYI Practice starts Thursday
I hate you. Kimi's engine went kablammo this morning.

Monaco one offs:
Kimi's reversed out helmet.
http://images.f1racing.net/large/59810.jpg

McLarens diamond encrusted tristar.
http://images.f1racing.net/large/59729.jpg

Schumi's Gawd awful driving suite.
http://f1.racing-live.com/f1/photos/2006/gpmonaco/diapo_108.jpg

I will post more as I see them. I am surprised to see that at least Doornbos' RBR was exactly the same even w/ the Superman Returns tie in.

from www.formula1.com
Fernando Alonso showed he has every intention of winning his first Monaco Grand Prix this weekend as he emerged fastest in opening practice on Thursday morning with a best lap of 1m16.712s, a tenth of a second faster than Honda test driver Anthony Davidson (1m16.872s). Underlining the Renault challenge was third-fastest Giancarlo Fisichella, who was right with Davidson, with a best of 1m16.88s.

However Michael Schumacher gave notice that he and Ferrari are not to be overlooked with his best lap of 1m16.973s being fourth fastest. There was then a gap of half a second back to the best of the rest in the form of Juan Pablo Montoya's McLaren (1m17.458s).

The big news of the session, however, was that Kimi Raikkonen stopped out on the track with mechanical troubles, smoke coming from the back of his McLaren. If this ends up meaning that he must change an engine, the Finn will have to take a 10-place penalty on the grid.

Sixth quickest in the session was BMW Sauber test driver Robert Kubica, but the Polish driver did not complete the session, pulling off after 43 minutes. He ended up with a best lap of 1m17.869s ahead of the Williams of Alexander Wurz (1m17.949s) and Jenson Button's Honda with a best of 1m18.329s.

Behind him were Robert Doornbos (Red Bull) with a 1m18.394s, Honda's Rubens Barrichello 1m18.406s and Red Bull's David Coulthard with 1m18.447s. The two Williams race drivers were next with Nico Roberg (1m18.480s) just a head of Mark Webber (1m18.571s) and the second Ferrari of Felipe Massa, who lapped the track in 1m18.695s. The two Toyotas were next up with Jarno Trulli (1m18.703s) ahead of Ralf Schumacher (1m19.021s) and then the BMW Sauber of Jacques Villeneuve (1m19.246s).

Next up were Christian Klien (Red Bull) with a 1m19.543s; Neel Jani (Toro Rosso), 1m19.651s; Giorgio Mondini, 1m19.669s, and his Midland team mate Tiago Monteiro with a 1m19.730s. The two Toro Rosso race drivers Tonio Liuzzi and Scott Speed recorded 1m19.857s and 1m20.137s respectively ahead of Midland’s Christijan Albers (1m20.552s) and the two Super Aguris of Takuma Sato (1m21.144s) and Franck Montagny (1m21.594s).

Nick Heidfeld and Raikkonen failed to set representative lap times.

I hate you. Kimi's engine went kablammo this morning.

If they wouldn't have froze the damn thing!

Just to give some hope to the Kimi fans, they haven't had to change his engine yet, just the wiring loom.

Keep your fingers crossed though...not like you're all not used to doing that anyways. :D

Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Wurz Williams-Cosworth (B) 1:15.907 27
2. Davidson Honda (M) 1:16.075 + 0.168 15
3. Montoya McLaren-Mercedes (M) 1:16.138 + 0.231 24
4. Alonso Renault (M) 1:16.221 + 0.314 18
5. Doornbos Red Bull-Ferrari (M) 1:16.292 + 0.385 36
6. Raikkonen McLaren-Mercedes (M) 1:16.707 + 0.800 18
7. Fisichella Renault (M) 1:16.721 + 0.814 23
8. Coulthard Red Bull-Ferrari (M) 1:16.870 + 0.963 19
9. Button Honda (M) 1:16.903 + 0.996 20
10. Massa Ferrari (B) 1:17.251 + 1.344 25
11. Trulli Toyota (B) 1:17.325 + 1.418 25
12. Monteiro MF1-Toyota (B) 1:17.439 + 1.532 30
13. Barrichello Honda (M) 1:17.456 + 1.549 24
14. Mondini MF1-Toyota (B) 1:17.497 + 1.590 30
15. M.Schumacher Ferrari (B) 1:17.603 + 1.696 25
16. Liuzzi Toro Rosso-Cosworth (M) 1:17.638 + 1.731 31
17. Webber Williams-Cosworth (B) 1:17.744 + 1.837 19
18. R.Schumacher Toyota (B) 1:17.793 + 1.886 26
19. Rosberg Williams-Cosworth (B) 1:17.845 + 1.938 15
20. Villeneuve BMW-Sauber (M) 1:17.874 + 1.967 13
21. Klien Red Bull-Ferrari (M) 1:18.123 + 2.216 22
22. Heidfeld BMW-Sauber (M) 1:18.257 + 2.350 10
23. Speed Toro Rosso-Cosworth (M) 1:18.420 + 2.513 29
24. Albers MF1-Toyota (B) 1:18.430 + 2.523 24
25. Montagny Super Aguri-Honda (B) 1:18.731 + 2.824 19
26. Kubica BMW-Sauber (M) 1:19.273 + 3.366 12
27. Jani Toro Rosso-Cosworth (M) 1:19.445 + 3.538 27
28. Sato Super Aguri-Honda (B) 1:19.803 + 3.896 31

For some reason Woobens is wearing Tony Kanaan's helmet design this weekend. I know they are friends but I always heard wearing another drivers helmet was bad joo joo in racing.
http://images.f1racing.net/large/59842.jpg

edit: question answered. Pretty cool too.
http://www.f1racing.net/en/news.php?newsID=119152

Come on McLaren now lets see these results in qualifing

From AutoSports' Timothy Collings:
...in the afternoon... the track was much faster than it had been in the morning.

In hazy and warm conditions, in which the track temperature was 41 Celsius and the air temperature 22, the day's action was dominated by the various incidents and accidents.

There were three major ones all of which resulted in a red flag and the stopping of the session - a signal that if such actions continue on Saturday, the qualifying session may run on far beyond its allocated hour.The mighty ant in the 3rd Honda caused two of the red flags... he smashed the barriers and broke his car, as did Kubica in the 3rd beemer.

Reading the tea leaves of practice times... Honda is performing well today... I picked them to place in the low points. Despite Wurz' showing, I would be surprised to see Williams grab points, unless some faster cars break during the race...

From AutoSports' Timothy Collings:
The mighty ant in the 3rd Honda caused two of the red flags... he smashed the barriers and broke his car, as did Kubica in the 3rd beemer.

Reading the tea leaves of practice times... Honda is performing well today... I picked them to place in the low points. Despite Wurz' showing, I would be surprised to see Williams grab points, unless some faster cars break during the race...

The Honda's always seem fast on a one lap flyer but they can't seem to maintain the pace in the race. I would really like to see them contend at the end.

Monaco has always been a car breaker. I expect a couple of surprises in the small points.

Montoya will podium!!!!!!!!!

does anyone have a detailed map of the circuit, especially detailing the elevation changes? I've looked all over and can never find anything...

Help me NASIOC Motorsports, you're my only hope...
(with apologies to Carrie Fisher)

Montoya will podium!!!!!!!!!
:mad:

:mad:

And that makes you mad why???

kimi will finish ahead of JPM

meh, doubt it!

And the thing with Rubens and Tony is really nice of them to do!!!

I am so anxious to see this already :) after Thursday's practice feels like tomorrow's gonna be qualifying.

I am so anxious to see this already :) after Thursday's practice feels like tomorrow's gonna be qualifying.

yeh, im gunna be upset when i wake up in the morning and no f1 after i got a taste today. i have a hard enough time lasting the 24 hours f1 weekend events, let alone 48!

is it going to rain at a grand prix anytime soon?

is it going to rain at a grand prix anytime soon?

As interesting as it is to watch in the rain... I kind of hope it doesn't. I don't want to watch 30 laps of yellow flag. It's just plain boring. But to answer your question, it'll most likely rain. But I mean... weather is pretty unpredictable (eg. Suzuka 2005)

A bit of excitement for me at the end of the first practice. I went out with less than one minute to go to complete an installation lap and a practice start. However there was a small fire which caused some damage – a bit more than necessary as the Fire Marshals were hesitant until I took the fire extinguisher myself. The team did a great job in making the necessary repairs and I was able to get some running in half way through the second session. I'm pleased with what we have achieved so far and we look competitive, but there is still along way to go.
:lol:

http://www.pbase.com/image/60729772/large.jpg

"What is the photocopier?"

my pic for this weekend.

1. alonso (hate to say it)
2. m. schumi
3. raikkonen

GP2 Quali:

Hamilton takes Monaco pole

By Charles Bradley Friday, May 26th 2006, 09:09 GMT


Lewis Hamilton displayed imperious form in qualifying for Saturday's GP2 race at Monaco, dominating despite the very obvious pitfalls of a 30-minute qualifying session for 26 cars around the narrowest of street circuits.

ART Grand Prix's Hamilton led the way for most of the session, setting a time of 1:21.748 on his very first flying lap that was miles clear of everyone else.

His idea of a 'banker' lap was wise, as the session was punctuated by red flags, the first of which came moments later when Giorgio Pantano (FMS) stuttered to a halt at the Swimming Pool.

When it resumed, Hamilton's next effort was 1:20.606, enforcing his advantage over his rivals.

The second red flag came halfway through, as Jason Tahinci (FMS) spun at Mirabeau, just as Fairuz Fauzy (Super Nova) rotated at Casino Square, somehow without hitting anything but blocking the track.

Only some swift marshalling avoided a third stoppage soon after when Ernesto Viso (iSport) understeered into the Ste Devote tyre wall and Olivier Pla (DPR Direxiv), second fastest at the time, ploughed into him hard.

Pla's teammate Clivio Piccione wisely took to the escape road at this point, otherwise it would have doubled DPR's workload.

Hamilton steered clear of the dramas, working his time down to 1:20.564 with a few minutes remaining. Pla could only stand and watch as he tumbled from second to fifth, with Franck Perera (DAMS) the only man who came close to Hamilton's time. His 1:20.717 was still over a quarter of a second adrift, however.

Gimmi Bruni leapt up to third in the closing stages for Trident, while Hamilton's teammate Alexandre Premat looked very ragged on his way to fourth.

Behind Pla and Piccione, last year's winner Adam Carroll (Racing Engineering) was seventh, ahead of Adrian Valles (Campos), Felix Portiero (Campos) and Andres Zuber (Trident).

Championship leader Nelson Piquet (Piquet Sports) once again failed to shine and will start from outside the top 10.

Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Hamilton ART Grand Prix 1:20.430 17
2. Perera DAMS 1:20.717 + 0.287 19
3. Bruni Trident Racing 1:21.155 + 0.725 17
4. Premat ART Grand Prix 1:21.227 + 0.797 19
5. Pla DPR Direxiv 1:21.277 + 0.847 10
6. Piccione DPR Direxiv 1:21.386 + 0.956 18
7. Carroll Racing Engineering 1:21.542 + 1.112 18
8. Valles Campos Racing 1:21.616 + 1.186 19
9. Porteiro Campos Racing 1:21.679 + 1.249 16
10. Zuber Trident Racing 1:21.744 + 1.314 17
11. Di Grassi Durango 1:21.926 + 1.496 15
12. Piquet Jr. Piquet Sports 1:21.940 + 1.510 19
13. Villa Racing Engineering 1:22.075 + 1.645 16
14. Lapierre Arden International Ltd 1:22.112 + 1.682 19
15. Lopez Super Nova International 1:22.296 + 1.866 16
16. Gommendy iSport International 1:22.377 + 1.947 18
17. Glock BCN Competicion 1:22.428 + 1.998 17
18. Pantano FMS International 1:22.474 + 2.044 10
19. Monfardini DAMS 1:22.620 + 2.190 18
20. Ammermueller Arden International Ltd 1:22.702 + 2.272 18
21. Fauzy Super Nova International 1:23.231 + 2.801 16
22. Hernandez Durango 1:23.418 + 2.988 18
23. Negrao Piquet Sports 1:23.569 + 3.139 18
24. Viso iSport International 1:24.130 + 3.700 10
25. Yoshimoto BCN Competicion 1:24.335 + 3.905 8
26. Tahinci FMS International 1:25.997 + 5.567 5

ahh, speed is so far behind the live timing. but kimi fastest of 1st session with 13.887, close to the fastest time of the weekend.

my question is when will Davison get a shot at a race weekend for Honda he is allways at the top of Friday practice time?

good first session for Kimi maybe this will be the race McLaren gets it together

looks like McLaren is running light today, finally!! Montoya is setting fastest times while burning off fuel, and kimi is third behind schumacher. well see in a few minutes when the loads go down.

looks like McLaren is running light today, finally!! Montoya is setting fastest times while burning off fuel, and kimi is third behind schumacher. well see in a few minutes when the loads go down.

I think they realized that you can't pass in this track. It's a parade, so getting up front is imperative to good results.



Mika

I think they realized that you can't pass in this track. It's a parade, so getting up front is imperative to good results.

Mika

i can only hope. not doing as well as i would have thought, KR 4th and JPM 6th.

Michael got pole, with alonso, then webber.

Another classless move brought to you by "world class a-hole" Michael Schumacher. :rolleyes:




Mika

Oh my!!

Schuy really added to the drama in qualifying!!

Anyone want to make a poll on whether it was deliberate or not?

edit: after watching the post-Q interviews, Schuy is 100% guilty. Shifting eyes, stumbling a bit on describing the incidence, etc.. Hope he gets nailed!

I'll make a pole..:)

Edit: poll added.


Mika

Anyone want to make a poll on whether it was deliberate or not?

do we really need to? anyone who says it wasnt, didnt watch it. genius i have to say, but very childish. but if keeps alonso out of a win, i guess itll make me happier :devil:

Yea, it was deliberate, look at him talking about it during the interview, he's lying through his teeth and looking at the ground so he doesn't show it to everyone. I hope they take it away...but its Schumi so that won't happen. He crashed into a car during the recon lap and spun out in a safety car period and nothing of substance happened.

See the look on Schumi's face walking into the interview?



He had to keep himself from bursting out with a big ole' grin :D


What a dirty bastard :lol:

He's under investigation! :banana:

its just so convient that he lost control and stopped the car right before he damaged anything. i hope its stripped.

You know if it was a race that he woulda avoided that, no problem.



Mika

do we really need to? anyone who says it wasnt, didnt watch it. genius i have to say, but very childish. but if keeps alonso out of a win, i guess itll make me happier :devil:

lol, genius? Not really. Now if he actually bumped the armco, and totally made it look like an accident, that would have been genius. There was no commitment here. Give up the team's time to get the car back in shape if you really want to do that and make it stick. He will join Massa at the back.

Genius? No, that was completely half-assed. :lol:

that was hillarious! alonso was ready to cry.

schumacher to win tomorrow.

1. schumi
2. kimi
3. alonoso


its bout time kimi stepped it up

Well if MS dosen't get sent to the back so webber can run over him in the first turn

Give it for Webber. I hope Williams can get back to where it was in 03.
As far as MS, I think it was crap. Don't know if they can prove anything but like Mika said, in a race that wouldn't have been an issue. Michael said he didn't know what his times where so he was surprised to still be in P1. Thats is 100% crap. He better then any other driver on the planet knows what other people are doing on track at all times. He also knows that a whole punch of the GP2 guys got smacked down last race for setting their fastest times during a yellow flagged lap. There is no way he didn't at least know his P1 was going to stand up whether or not he stalled on purpose.

I don't think Alonso was going to cry it looked like he wanted to hit him.

"This is embarrassing. Embarrassing for a world champion. It would even be embarrassing for Yuji Ide." ~ Jacques Villeneuve

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUal0BU6tl4&search=Schumacher%20Monaco

http://home.comcast.net/~mhulburt7/images/schustop.jpg

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/5023004.stm

Super! I wish there were some American kids there who'd start the chant, "a**hole a**hole a**hole"

Revised Monaco GP grid

Saturday, May 27th 2006, 21:22 GMT

The provisional grid for the Monaco Grand Prix:

Pos Driver Team
1. Alonso Renault (M)
2. Webber Williams-Cosworth (B)
3. Raikkonen McLaren-Mercedes (M)
4. Montoya McLaren-Mercedes (M)
5. Barrichello Honda (M)
6. Trulli Toyota (B)
7. Coulthard Red Bull-Ferrari (M)
8. Rosberg Williams-Cosworth (B)
9. Fisichella Renault (M) *
10. R.Schumacher Toyota (B)
11. Klien Red Bull-Ferrari (M)
12. Liuzzi Toro Rosso-Cosworth (M)
13. Button Honda (M)
14. Villeneuve BMW-Sauber (M)
15. Heidfeld BMW-Sauber (M)
16. Albers MF1-Toyota (B)
17. Monteiro MF1-Toyota (B)
18. Speed Toro Rosso-Cosworth (M)
19. Sato Super Aguri-Honda (B)
20. Montagny Super Aguri-Honda (B)
21. Massa Ferrari (B)
22. M.Schumacher Ferrari (B) *

* Michael Schumacher originally qualified on pole position, while Giancarlo Fisichella originally qualified in fifth position.

The Renault driver was penalised for impeding others during qualifying, losing his three fastest laps, which dropped him to 10th.

However, as the stewards decided to delete all of Schumacher's qualifying times, throwing him to the back of the grid, the Italian moves up to ninth.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/5023004.stm

Super! I wish there were some American kids there who'd start the chant, "a**hole a**hole a**hole"
Hooray! There is justice in the world!

-Chike (former Schumi fan)

Deserved punishment for a totally embarassing move for himself and for the sport in general. I can't imagine what Michael was thinking.

^^^
I personally don't think he did it on "purpose". I've got a feeling that he kind of locked up the brakes going into the last turn and thought at the moment of truth that he could not correct and no one would be able to tell. So basically I don't think he was going into the whole last sector thinking "if I cause a yellow I'll get pole" but more "oh crap too much speed...well.... might as well".

^^^
I personally don't think he did it on "purpose". I've got a feeling that he kind of locked up the brakes going into the last turn and thought at the moment of truth that he could not correct and no one would be able to tell. So basically I don't think he was going into the whole last sector thinking "if I cause a yellow I'll get pole" but more "oh crap too much speed...well.... might as well".

i think you nailed it. He was 100% aware of his position and the position of everyone on the track. He took a horrible line, was able to correct then decided to do it at the last minute thinking it would not be obvious....to bad it sorely was.

im glad to see Kimi in the top 3!! means hes got a chance to win.

Yea, in the age of telemetry for the drivers bowel movements, you would think he wouldn't be stupid enough to do that. I'm happy he got slapped down.

He did it on purpose he turn the wheels back to the left after he cleared the armco and drove staight fro the wall and eased to a stop without bumping the wall. Then the great Schmacher stalled the car<----the funniest part to me I hate that guy and i hope he retires at the end of the season


Go kimi

^^^
I personally don't think he did it on "purpose". I've got a feeling that he kind of locked up the brakes going into the last turn and thought at the moment of truth that he could not correct and no one would be able to tell. So basically I don't think he was going into the whole last sector thinking "if I cause a yellow I'll get pole" but more "oh crap too much speed...well.... might as well".

Bingo.

Sadly another one of those moments where Schuey's evil twin takes over.

This morning I think he did it on purpose, but I just saw the videotube video a couple of times and it seems to me like he genuinely made a mistake. Seemed like he decided to correct the car from spin and that move was overestimated since the car did not actually start to spin too bad... of course it's hard to prove anything... what can you do.

* Michael Schumacher originally qualified on pole position, while Giancarlo Fisichella originally qualified in fifth position.

The Renault driver was penalised for impeding others during qualifying, losing his three fastest laps, which dropped him to 10th.

However, as the stewards decided to delete all of Schumacher's qualifying times, throwing him to the back of the grid, the Italian moves up to ninth.

Did Fisi remember to curse himself out in Italian? :disco:

lame.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blbmZO8Oz7Y&search=Schumacher%20Monaco
vid w/overhead view.

he was past the end of the gaurdrail why if it wasn't on purpose did he turn the car back to the left when he could have easily continued. i think he afraid of having to pass Alonso on the track.

How rediculous is it that Fisi was charged with the same thing as Schumacher and he was only penalized 5 grid positions (his 3 fastest times) but all of Schumachers times were taken and he was penalized 22 positions. Even if he did it on purpose, (I don't think he did), he should have been moved to second and let he and Alonzo fight it out on the track. Now I hope Kimi wins, anyone but Alonzo. Kimi is Schumachers future team mate anyway.

This morning I think he did it on purpose, but I just saw the videotube video a couple of times and it seems to me like he genuinely made a mistake. Seemed like he decided to correct the car from spin and that move was overestimated since the car did not actually start to spin too bad... of course it's hard to prove anything... what can you do.

I am a big Schumi fan, but that was a bull**** move.

MS just doesn't make mistakes like that. I would like to hear from some of our race drivers, but that looked like amateur hour to me, and whatever else MS is, he is no amateur. Remember same guy who is scrolling through his electronic menus, one handed, on a hot run, while trucking through the tunnel at +175 MPH. I don't think so.

Anyone else having a flashback to Senna/Prost :rolleyes:

Matt Kennedy
www.RockyRoadRacing.com (http://www.RockyRoadRacing.com)

he was past the end of the gaurdrail why if it wasn't on purpose did he turn the car back to the left when he could have easily continued. i think he afraid of having to pass Alonso on the track.

It's quite obvious to me from watching the video that he just lost front end grip. When a car understeers, the only way to get front end grip back is to decrease the slip angle, which is why he turned the steering wheel back again. The reason he stopped is because he just couldn't get the car to turn around the corner, and didn't want to hit the wall. You can clearly see that when he turns the steering wheel, the car just doesn't react. So I don't think it was intententional.

That said, I think it's right that he's sent to the back. Whether or not it's intentional, a driver doing something that inhibits other qualifiers shouldn't be tolerated.

-Mike

How rediculous is it that Fisi was charged with the same thing as Schumacher and he was only penalized 5 grid positions (his 3 fastest times) but all of Schumachers times were taken and he was penalized 22 positions. Even if he did it on purpose, (I don't think he did), he should have been moved to second and let he and Alonzo fight it out on the track. Now I hope Kimi wins, anyone but Alonzo. Kimi is Schumachers future team mate anyway.
It's not really the same thing. Fisi was penalized for blocking particular people so he got his fastest 3 times dropped. MS got penalised for bringing out an avoidable yellow flag "on purpose" which in the rules says you loose all of your times. The enforcement is correct to the letter of the rules.
Also, MS' move came at the exact wrong time for everyone else on track.

Everyone that was behind him couldn't set their "golden" lap so who is to say that he wouldn't have ended up 2nd, 3rd or 5th or something like that?

he wasn't going fast enough at that time to has so much understeer that he had to completly staightin out the wheel and if he was he would have bliped the trottle to get the backend around

*sigh*

The real tragedy in all of this is that we've been robbed of what should have been an absolutely classic battle between Alonso and Schumacher around the streets of Monaco.

I'm just going to keep my fingers crossed that somehow Webbo and Williams sneak a victory tomorrow. :D

Oh and I'm dreading DD's inevitable endless droning about this mess... :rolleyes:

*sigh*

The real tragedy in all of this is that we've been robbed of what should have been an absolutely classic battle between Alonso and Schumacher around the streets of Monaco.

I'm just going to keep my fingers crossed that somehow Webbo and Williams sneak a victory tomorrow. :D

Oh and I'm dreading DD's inevitable endless droning about this mess... :rolleyes:

you speak the truth and now that you put it that way im kinda bummed we wont see that battle. But the FIA needs to come down hard on BS like this or it will get out of hand quick. Kimi vs Alonso will be good hopefully.

it wouldn't have been a classic battle on the track it would have been a pit stratigy battle just like Imola where Alonso followed MS long enough to wear the front tires to the point he couldn't stay close to MS

Haha, I'm happy as hell to see Coulthard and Red Bull on the podium, especially at Monaco, but did he have to wear that damn cape?

Well leave it to the FIA to take out any suspense in the championship this year. Avoidable or not Schumi had the fastest lap in qualifying, he would have had the second fastest at worst, so move him back to the back and seal up the championship for Alonso, HMM how can that be good for the sport?
For all the people that hate NASCAR at least more than 2 cars have a chance to win. I may have to watch cars go around in circles for a while.

Haha, I'm happy as hell to see Coulthard and Red Bull on the podium, especially at Monaco, but did he have to wear that damn cape?
Dude that was the cape of victory man! Besides, he probably had just enough gas for another 1/2 a lap so good calculations by the RED BULL team. Congrats on Montoya in finishing a race without any incident (and getting 2nd) and Alonso on his fast track to second guessing himself on moving to McClaren next year.

T.Vo

Man, my heart goes out to Williams. Webber was amazing today, too bad his car went boom. I thought there was no way JPM was going to make it to the finish after Kimi's car let go. Hopefully they just turned down the engine mapping because he slid way back to Alonso afterwards.
DC looked embarrassed as hell to have to wear a cape but I guess that's how sponorship goes.
Great race.

http://images.f1racing.net/large/60212.jpg

Good ol' Red Bull :lol:

Q: (Damien Smith - Autosport) A question for David: apparently on television before the race, Christian Horner said that if Red Bull scored a podium today he would jump in the harbour naked. Are you going to make sure he goes through with that?
DC: Well, he did tell me, when I was doing the slowing-down lap, that it was actually to jump in the pool at the energy centre naked so my advice was to give his ‘wally’ a good rub before he does it because if you are going to get photographed naked you want to look as favourable as possible.

I also thought it was pretty interesting that 18 drivers had faster laps than Coulthard and he still ended up on the podium.

Man, my heart goes out to Williams. Webber was amazing today, too bad his car went boom. I thought there was no way JPM was going to make it to the finish after Kimi's car let go. Hopefully they just turned down the engine mapping because he slid way back to Alonso afterwards.
DC looked embarrassed as hell to have to wear a cape but I guess that's how sponorship goes.
Great race.

http://images.f1racing.net/large/60212.jpg
Their necks are so freakin' huge. :lol:


This race totally killed my Pick6. Hopefully it did everyone elses, too. ;)

-Matt

Wow, CBS must have listened! Danny Sullivan made a great color commentator! He explained things that were happening without sounding stupid and repetitive. He and Ralph actually made a pretty good team!

Good race, all things considered.

M.Schumacher
F.Alonso
F.Massa
J.Button
K.Raikkonen
R.Barrichello
G.Fisichella
D.Coulthard

I always like DC here, but I can't place him very high with so many good teams this year.

Steve

I guess I was a little too pessimistic about DC after all, although three of my picks above him DNF'd.

And for full disclosure, instead of picking all my own this week, I snagged Mark Blundell's choice for the top six spots. :embarrassed: Hey, at least I didn't do bad with Fisi and DC. Looks like 29 points this time...

Wow, CBS must have listened! Danny Sullivan made a great color commentator! He explained things that were happening without sounding stupid and repetitive. He and Ralph actually made a pretty good team!

I have to agree, Sullivan did a pretty good job, and his commentary actually added to the race rather than distracted. I guess I wasn't the only person who sent CBS Sports a nasty email about DD. :D

well it looked like Kimi was on his way to start turning his season around and Good old Mercadies(sp) relieblity jumped up and punched him in the face



btw my quote for the kimi in the ice car pic: "where do i sign my ferrari contract at?"

Well leave it to the FIA to take out any suspense in the championship this year. Avoidable or not Schumi had the fastest lap in qualifying, he would have had the second fastest at worst, so move him back to the back and seal up the championship for Alonso, HMM how can that be good for the sport?
For all the people that hate NASCAR at least more than 2 cars have a chance to win. I may have to watch cars go around in circles for a while.

Nope, Alonso would have been faster if Schumi hadn't shut down at the end of the lap. It is good for the sport that his intentional stopping on the track was slapped down so others do not do it in the future, it gives the sport crediability. No where in Schumi's comments that I saw did he even mention the incident in real comments, he was talking around it.

i like speed far more though, they talk about the technical aspect like suspension setup gearing, etc etc. The CBS guys barely touched on that stuff until the last few laps (pointless) and didnt even mention the special wings added by some teams just for monaco....

Monaco

1. F.Alonso
2. M.Schumacher
3. J.Montoya
4. G.Fisichella
5. F.Massa
6. J.Button
7. N.Heidfeld
8. M.Webber

It's Kimi's turn to break this week.

FYI Practice starts Thursday
:mad: I hate you. Words cannot express how much I hate you right now. :mad:





;) :lol:

:mad: I hate you. Words cannot express how much I hate you right now. :mad:



im with you man. once that happened all i could think about was were can i get rupert's address! im coming for you, you will regret the day you mentioned kimi having problems :devil: !

but it looks like mercedes is back to their 2005 style. a little faster then renault but not reliably. But maybe thatll be to Kimi's liking. He said hes given up, so maybe hell give up a few races to get a win or two this season.

i like speed far more though, they talk about the technical aspect like suspension setup gearing, etc etc. The CBS guys barely touched on that stuff until the last few laps (pointless) and didnt even mention the special wings added by some teams just for monaco....
There were surprisingly few extra wings this weekend. Honda extended their pre-sidepod winds and put more of a wedge on their air box wings. Super Aguri added some conards to the nose of theirs. Other then that there didn't seem to be the huge reach for down force that I am used to seeing there.

Honda Airbox wing
http://images.f1racing.net/large/59700.jpg

Honda Extended Sidepod wing
http://images.f1racing.net/large/59925.jpg

Super Aguri Extra flaps in front of the suspension
http://images.f1racing.net/large/60017.jpg

As Im watching SPEED News, it seems CBS didnt kick out DD, DD is at Indy for the 500. Is there another CBS race or are they done?

sweet pics art, i only saw the honda sidepod wings and the speed guys said it was to better channel air into the rads because of the constant low speeds @ monaco....wonder if it added downforce too?

Looks like its more to clean up air flow towards the rear wing then to add downforce. The link is about the older version which is stubbier.
http://formula1.com/insight/technical_analysis/team/2006/35/271.html

I was out of town, and CBS wasn't available(po-dunk small Texas town, go figure). I'm not surprised that Kimi's car broke down. Thanks Silver Arrows once again.

Michael Schumacher can DIAF.



Mika

As Im watching SPEED News, it seems CBS didnt kick out DD, DD is at Indy for the 500. Is there another CBS race or are they done?

They're done, I don't remember DD being at the indy 500.

CBS said they would be doing Silverstone...

http://www.sportsline.com/autoracing/schedules/OPEN_F

No they aren't done, CBS has the British Grand Prix on June 11th.


-Matt

damn, DD will probably be there for that.

Stubeck, he wasnt there for ABC, he was there for Speed. they had him as a reporter after the race, i saw him on speed news this afternoon.

I didn't mean they were done for showing races, I was referring to the person wondering if the Indy 500 was done.

I didn't mean they were done for showing races, I was referring to the person wondering if the Indy 500 was done.

actually the other person was correct. I meant if CBS was done showing F1 races, the indy 500 was on ABC.

There were surprisingly few extra wings this weekend. Honda extended their pre-sidepod winds and put more of a wedge on their air box wings. Super Aguri added some conards to the nose of theirs. Other then that there didn't seem to be the huge reach for down force that I am used to seeing there.

Actually Mclaren had a new front wing, Renault modified their sidepod winglets, and Williams was running three small wings on the engine cover. Also, Toyota brought out the TF106B so its kind of hard to say if their aero package was much different than it will be on normal downforce tracks.

For those who live in Canada that dont know, TSN is on live everytimes rather speeds or CBS is broadcasting it.

im with you man. once that happened all i could think about was were can i get rupert's address! im coming for you, you will regret the day you mentioned kimi having problems :devil: !

but it looks like mercedes is back to their 2005 style. a little faster then renault but not reliably. But maybe thatll be to Kimi's liking. He said hes given up, so maybe hell give up a few races to get a win or two this season.

I don't know about that yet...

Monaco is all about mechanical grip. A car can hide a bad aero package around there with little trouble. A driver with guts and a good engine always has a chance to make a good showing there.

The next "real" track will tell.... ;)

:cool:

http://f1.racing-live.com/f1/photos/2006/gpmonaco/diapo_346.jpg
http://f1.racing-live.com/f1/photos/2006/gpmonaco/diapo_348.jpg
http://www.retrospective.us/~daver/vlcsnap-492802.jpg

What a pimp move that was!!! :disco:
I felt so bad for him and Webber.

That was fast!


F1P6 Results
for group impreza.net
for the Circuit de Monaco

Rank Score F.Alonso J.Montoya D.Coulthard R.Barrichello M.Schumacher G.Fisichella N.Heidfeld R.Schumacher

50. 40 266 William Truett M.Schumacher J.Montoya F.Alonso F.Massa R.Barrichello R.Schumacher J.Button G.Fisichella
80. 39 275 Rupert Berrington F.Alonso M.Schumacher J.Montoya G.Fisichella F.Massa J.Button N.Heidfeld M.Webber
211. 35 248 Michael Fiyak F.Alonso M.Schumacher J.Montoya K.Raikkonen G.Fisichella J.Button F.Massa R.Barrichello
35 248 Chris Hartman F.Alonso M.Schumacher J.Button K.Raikkonen G.Fisichella R.Barrichello J.Montoya D.Coulthard
282. 34 255 Gary Lancaster F.Alonso M.Schumacher K.Raikkonen J.Button J.Montoya R.Schumacher M.Webber N.Heidfeld
350. 33 247 Ony Anglade J.Montoya K.Raikkonen M.Schumacher F.Alonso J.Button N.Rosberg N.Heidfeld R.Barrichello
33 253 Jeff Preston F.Alonso M.Schumacher J.Montoya G.Fisichella K.Raikkonen F.Massa J.Button R.Barrichello
415. 32 234 Paul Chavez M.Schumacher F.Alonso F.Massa G.Fisichella K.Raikkonen J.Montoya N.Heidfeld M.Webber
508. 31 264 Scott Ripley F.Alonso M.Schumacher K.Raikkonen F.Massa G.Fisichella J.Montoya J.Button R.Barrichello
619. 30 262 Matt Doyle M.Schumacher F.Alonso F.Massa G.Fisichella K.Raikkonen J.Button N.Heidfeld J.Montoya
733. 29 253 Johann Joo F.Alonso M.Schumacher G.Fisichella F.Massa K.Raikkonen J.Montoya R.Barrichello J.Button
29 195 Ken March M.Schumacher F.Alonso F.Massa K.Raikkonen G.Fisichella J.Montoya R.Barrichello J.Button
29 255 Steve Morris M.Schumacher F.Alonso F.Massa J.Button K.Raikkonen R.Barrichello G.Fisichella D.Coulthard
876. 28 258 Lord Bass F.Alonso K.Raikkonen M.Schumacher J.Button F.Massa D.Coulthard R.Barrichello J.Montoya
28 178 Jim Rider F.Alonso M.Schumacher K.Raikkonen G.Fisichella F.Massa J.Button J.Montoya R.Barrichello
1045. 27 143 Ken Addison F.Alonso M.Schumacher G.Fisichella F.Massa J.Button K.Raikkonen J.Montoya R.Barrichello
1187. 26 242 Peter Lapin F.Alonso M.Schumacher K.Raikkonen J.Button G.Fisichella F.Massa J.Montoya M.Webber
1316. 25 219 Alex Hofstetter F.Alonso J.Button M.Schumacher K.Raikkonen F.Massa J.Montoya R.Barrichello J.Villeneuve
25 242 Mika Hyytiainen M.Schumacher F.Alonso F.Massa G.Fisichella K.Raikkonen N.Rosberg J.Montoya R.Barrichello
1453. 24 252 Matt Dell M.Schumacher F.Alonso G.Fisichella K.Raikkonen J.Button F.Massa J.Montoya R.Barrichello
24 225 Andrew Parente F.Alonso M.Schumacher G.Fisichella K.Raikkonen J.Button J.Montoya J.Trulli N.Rosberg
24 267 Andrew Sekellick F.Alonso G.Fisichella M.Schumacher F.Massa K.Raikkonen J.Button D.Coulthard J.Trulli
1575. 23 224 Tommy Mcwilliams F.Alonso M.Schumacher K.Raikkonen G.Fisichella J.Button J.Trulli F.Massa J.Montoya
23 265 Andy Zi M.Schumacher F.Alonso F.Massa G.Fisichella K.Raikkonen J.Villeneuve R.Barrichello J.Button
1660. 22 212 Brian Sullivan F.Alonso K.Raikkonen M.Schumacher J.Montoya M.Webber J.Button N.Rosberg F.Massa
1746. 21 241 Matt Phelps M.Schumacher F.Alonso K.Raikkonen G.Fisichella F.Massa J.Button J.Montoya J.Villeneuve
1857. 19 241 Jody Bertoli K.Raikkonen M.Schumacher F.Alonso F.Massa G.Fisichella M.Webber J.Button N.Rosberg
1926. 16 189 David Ferguson J.Button F.Alonso K.Raikkonen M.Schumacher N.Rosberg J.Villeneuve J.Trulli S.Speed
1942. 15 230 David Pio F.Alonso M.Schumacher J.Button F.Massa J.Trulli M.Webber N.Rosberg S.Speed

F1P6 Standings
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after the Circuit de Monaco

78. 275 Rupert Berrington
187. 267 Andrew Sekellick
204. 266 William Truett
226. 265 Andy Zi
247. 264 Scott Ripley
298. 262 Matt Doyle
426. 258 Lord Bass
528. 255 Gary Lancaster
255 Steve Morris
597. 253 Johann Joo
253 Jeff Preston
623. 252 Matt Dell
766. 248 Michael Fiyak
248 Chris Hartman
809. 247 Ony Anglade
1013. 242 Mika Hyytiainen
242 Peter Lapin
1048. 241 Jody Bertoli
241 Matt Phelps
1267. 234 Paul Chavez
1373. 230 David Pio
1496. 225 Andrew Parente
1515. 224 Tommy Mcwilliams
1592. 219 Alex Hofstetter
1673. 212 Brian Sullivan
1777. 200 Stuart Becktell
1803. 195 Ken March
1840. 189 David Ferguson
1889. 178 Jim Rider
1929. 167 Sean Ford
1994. 143 Ken Addison
2040. 119 Brad Erdman
2063. 113 James Alberts
2107. 96 Christopher Mcguire

Actually Mclaren had a new front wing, Renault modified their sidepod winglets, and Williams was running three small wings on the engine cover. Also, Toyota brought out the TF106B so its kind of hard to say if their aero package was much different than it will be on normal downforce tracks.
Good call. The reason I didn't mention those was that it looked like more of an evolution of the aero pieces then the old Monaco wings.
http://schlegelmilch.smcc.de/archive/help.php?help=copyright

Actually Mclaren had a new front wing, Renault modified their sidepod winglets, and Williams was running three small wings on the engine cover. Also, Toyota brought out the TF106B so its kind of hard to say if their aero package was much different than it will be on normal downforce tracks.

Good call. The reason I didn't mention those was that it looked like more of an evolution of the aero pieces then the Monaco wings of old.

The reason I didn't mention those was that it looked like more of an evolution of the aero pieces then the Monaco wings of old.

Very true. No one really did anything out there this year.

:cool:

http://f1.racing-live.com/f1/photos/2006/gpmonaco/diapo_346.jpg
http://f1.racing-live.com/f1/photos/2006/gpmonaco/diapo_348.jpg
http://www.retrospective.us/~daver/vlcsnap-492802.jpg
Any clue whose yacht that was?

http://www.yachtspotter.com/ysp2_ycard.php?foo=20070927

http://iopy.free.fr/cards/20070927c.jpg

http://www.yachtspotter.com/ysp2_ycard.php?foo=20070927

http://iopy.free.fr/cards/20070927c.jpg


Great website, thanks for the link.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41698000/jpg/_41698182_dc203x270.jpg

whats up with the cape? :confused:

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41698000/jpg/_41698182_dc203x270.jpg

whats up with the cape? :confused:
Red Bull it gives you cape. :banana:

Superman Returns tie in.

http://images.f1racing.net/large/59975.jpg

Star Wars tie in > Superman Returns tie in ;)

http://www.radio-canada.ca/sports/formule_un/saison2005/albumPhoto/Monaco/09.jpg

Star Wars tie in > Superman Returns tie in ;)

http://www.radio-canada.ca/sports/formule_un/saison2005/albumPhoto/Monaco/09.jpg

agreed, i loved seeing storm troopers replacing tires for an F1 car :D

what was the Ocean's Twelve tie in? i dont remember that for 2004.

The Oceans Twelve was actually with Jaguar, before the Red Bull buyout.

They embedded some diamonds in the nose of the car. Klein stuffed it at the hairpin, then they said the diamonds went missing. I can't remember if they claimed the missing diamonds bit was real or just a way to get some publicity.

Why didn't the Jag crew dress like George Clooney during pit stops?

I heard that the missing diamond thing is a myth. Maybe Klien stole it to pay for all those drinks a few weeks back. :)

Star Wars tie in > Superman Returns tie in ;)

http://www.radio-canada.ca/sports/formule_un/saison2005/albumPhoto/Monaco/09.jpg
I was thinking the same thing.


-Matt

Why didn't the Jag crew dress like George Clooney during pit stops?

I heard that the missing diamond thing is a myth. Maybe Klien stole it to pay for all those drinks a few weeks back. :)

There were 4 diamonds I believe that only 1 went missing and it was returned later. Hoax or not...dunno but probably scary for the insurance company :lol:

CHRIS!!

I think it was all a hoax, they would be silly to just tape it on or something, it was probably some spaceage glue to keep it on. It was funny though.

It looks like this performance has given DC another year at Red Bull, I'm really happy for that, he should be able to run at least another season or two and then probably go into the Panis role of test driver.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,1223376,00.html

More about the lost diamond. I liked the Star Wars tie in, the lollipop guy was darth vader!

Happy for DC and JPM. Loving the cape...

Kimi... Webber.... Nico - Feel so bad for all of them.

Alonso wins another one. My lack of excitement for this cannot be described. It's so much more exciting when more than one (and sometimes two) drivers are winning every race. (Although, if Kimi was in Alonso's shoes, I would certainly be happy for him - at least until he wins his first DC).

Hopefully, last season and this one will make the FIA think about changing the points structure. A driver should have to drive for wins to win a championship, not drive for points. Whether it's Alonso, Raikkonen or anyone else, to only lose two points off your total for finishing second is absurd.

Look at it this way. If M. Schumacher wins every race remaining in the season, and Alonso finishes second, the pass wouldn't happen until the end of the very last race of the season, in Brazil. That is absurd.

Monaco, unfortunately, is never an interesting race unless you get some rain or something, to force mistakes and allow passing maneuvers of the kind Raikkonen pulled on Webber. It's a really cool race to see, (Danny Sullivan was better than Derek Daly, btw) but I can't for the life of me figure out why it has such cachet, why all the drivers want to win it, except for where it is, and the tightness of the course.

I think that Alonso is an excellent driver. I don't know, however, how he'd be in a slightly inferior car. I suppose we'll find out next year when he gets in the McLaren. He'll be a two-time world champion when he goes there, however. I just wish he had more of a fight from any other team.

Kevin

Oh man, I was ecstatic to see that Derek Daly wasn't co-announcing on the CBS coverage.

Hopefully, last season and this one will make the FIA think about changing the points structure. A driver should have to drive for wins to win a championship, not drive for points. Whether it's Alonso, Raikkonen or anyone else, to only lose two points off your total for finishing second is absurd.

Look at it this way. If M. Schumacher wins every race remaining in the season, and Alonso finishes second, the pass wouldn't happen until the end of the very last race of the season, in Brazil. That is absurd.

Kevin

the point structure was designed this way to keep things close. If you give the winner a ton more points, then its about raw speed, and not consistency. If you make the points close, then its the other way around, and i think they wanted consitency to be the winning aspect. Its like when Kimi almost won the championship with only 1 victory to his name, he was more consistent then michael in scoring points, so he almost won. its supposed to make for a more exiting championship race. Think about how far behind everyone would be if it were the old way. Alonso would have a much bigger lead then he does now.

the point structure was designed this way to keep things close. If you give the winner a ton more points, then its about raw speed, and not consistency. If you make the points close, then its the other way around, and i think they wanted consitency to be the winning aspect. Its like when Kimi almost won the championship with only 1 victory to his name, he was more consistent then michael in scoring points, so he almost won. its supposed to make for a more exiting championship race. Think about how far behind everyone would be if it were the old way. Alonso would have a much bigger lead then he does now.

Agreed about the consistency thing, but it's pretty thrilling to watch a driver mount a late-season challenge as the speed of the various teams ebbs and flows. A 4-point difference would enable that, where a 2-point difference...

Alonso is gone anyhow. I'd just like to see wins mean more, whether it's for a guy who is kicking out the jams and gobbling up victorires, or a guy who's trying to make up ground. It's something about the shift in emphasis that clashes with the all-out nature of F1 to me.

I see your point, and had forgotten about Raikkonen's almost winning the title with a single victory to his name that season, which would have been appalling, IMHO. This is such a weird season that is also so disappointing in many ways:

Toyota
Honda with its two No. 2 drivers
McLaren's continued cluelessness
Bridgestone's occasional ineptitude ("Um, sorry guys...we don't really have a soft compound that will work here. Try these hard ones.")

Every season I expect there to be 4-5 teams competing for race wins, something gets all cocked up. I'd love to see a non red or blue/yellow car win something...anything this season. But that looks unlikely, given the way things are going.

Kevin

I'd love to see a non red or blue/yellow car win something...anything this season. But that looks unlikely, given the way things are going.

Kevin

that wont even make me happy, because i know theyre going to be right behind and the win will be meaningless.

Oh man, I was ecstatic to see that Derek Daly wasn't co-announcing on the CBS coverage.
Yeah, but David Sullivan made John Madden sound like a genious. there were times Sullivan sounded truly retarded.

Yeah, but David Sullivan made John Madden sound like a genious. there were times Sullivan sounded truly retarded.

Speaking of genius, abaxter34, I don't mean to pick on you but, it's DANNY Sullivan, and "genious" is spelled GENIUS.

he did have a few weak points, but was by no means as annoying as Daly, i usually choose not to listen, but Daly never shuts up so its hard to tone him out. I could tone out Sullivan, so i didnt hear his comments.

:mad: I hate you. Words cannot express how much I hate you right now. :mad:





;) :lol:

Man, where's the love? :D I want Kimi to do well, I just call them as I see them. It's not his fault. I think it's Montoya's turn now isn't it? :devil:

Wow, haven't won a single weekend but I'm in first now. :eek:

Man, where's the love? :D I want Kimi to do well, I just call them as I see them. It's not his fault. I think it's Montoya's turn now isn't it? :devil:

Wow, haven't won a single weekend but I'm in first now. :eek:

Its fernandos turn!! say that

No wonder Ralfie's not doing so well: http://ralfs.250free.com/photos/rsceuro2006.htm


-Matt

No wonder Ralfie's not doing so well: http://ralfs.250free.com/photos/rsceuro2006.htm


-Matt
Because its really his GF driving!!
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e247/ralfs/ralfcoraeuro2006/rsceuro20061537.jpg


I wonder if Michael put his wife in the car for his final qualifying lap...
:lol: :lol: :lol: :devil:

Ralfie's wife gets paid three figures to race a Mini in a one make series. :huh:

Ralfie's wife gets paid three figures to race a Mini in a one make series. :huh:

oo $1,000 :rolleyes:
how many races a season?

Oh whoops, I meant six figures.

I have no idea how many races.

Oh whoops, I meant six figures.

I have no idea how many races.

oh, then...


HOLY HELL! :huh:

How do you think that Ralf gets paid 20mil a year? It involves hands, and jobs, I'll let you figure it out ;)

Hopefully, last season and this one will make the FIA think about changing the points structure. A driver should have to drive for wins to win a championship, not drive for points. Whether it's Alonso, Raikkonen or anyone else, to only lose two points off your total for finishing second is absurd.

Look at it this way. If M. Schumacher wins every race remaining in the season, and Alonso finishes second, the pass wouldn't happen until the end of the very last race of the season, in Brazil. That is absurd.

Monaco, unfortunately, is never an interesting race unless you get some rain or something, to force mistakes and allow passing maneuvers of the kind Raikkonen pulled on Webber. It's a really cool race to see, (Danny Sullivan was better than Derek Daly, btw) but I can't for the life of me figure out why it has such cachet, why all the drivers want to win it, except for where it is, and the tightness of the course.

I think that Alonso is an excellent driver. I don't know, however, how he'd be in a slightly inferior car. I suppose we'll find out next year when he gets in the McLaren. He'll be a two-time world champion when he goes there, however. I just wish he had more of a fight from any other team.

Kevin


I thought Sullivan was awful.

No wonder Ralfie's not doing so well: http://ralfs.250free.com/photos/rsceuro2006.htm


-Matt
who needs the wdc trophy when you have that for a wife :lol:

Because its really his GF driving!!
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e247/ralfs/ralfcoraeuro2006/rsceuro20061537.jpg


I wonder if Michael put his wife in the car for his final qualifying lap...
:lol: :lol: :lol: :devil:
:spooge: :banana:

she would probable have better results than ralf

Her poor eyebrows.....

I've never been a fan of Ralf's wife. She always looks like she just got off stage. Give me Connie any day of the week.
http://in.yimg.com/xp/reuters_ids_new/20050923/00/3913317828.jpg

she would probable have better results than ralf

BURN! :devil:

I've never been a fan of Ralf's wife. She always looks like she just got off stage. Give me Connie any day of the week.
http://in.yimg.com/xp/reuters_ids_new/20050923/00/3913317828.jpg

I'm with this guy.

I've never been a fan of Ralf's wife. She always looks like she just got off stage. Give me Connie any day of the week.
http://in.yimg.com/xp/reuters_ids_new/20050923/00/3913317828.jpg


Montoya looks much happier. :devil:

Even happier here.
I wonder why?

http://montoya.digitalnexus.de/albums/album34/aay.sized.jpg

That always reminds me of something someone said about Eddie Van Halen...

"Why is Eddie Van Halen always smiling?"

"Because he's Eddie ****ing Van Halen."

I'd be all grins too if I was JPM, at least until someone hits me with a camera.

:D

BURN! :devil:

Call them like you see them ;)

Even happier here.
I wonder why?

http://montoya.digitalnexus.de/albums/album34/aay.sized.jpg

She MUCH better looking not smiling and in sunglasses...

Definately not the best looking F1 girl...

Cute, he probably doesn't have to worry about her much, but I wouldn't call her hot. That beign said, I think I'd take cute over hot 5 out of 7 days of the week...

Not the most flattering pic of Connie - but I think she's the prettiest wife/gf in F1... Cora is a stripper. I won't believe otherwise...

Kimi's wife (miss Scandanavia something something) has a nice body, but I'm not a fan of her face at all....

http://www.padokf1.com/images/haber/02082004111335-kimi_jenni_wed.jpg

I thought Sullivan was awful.

He wasn't as bad as Daly, which I think is what everyone is saying.

Connie is very very cute, I walked by her at the USGP in 03 (and Pablo Montoya and teh rest of the family in an X5) after the event...the pictures do not do her justice. She's smart too.

^
I think DC's ex is the hottest of the group but she's the ex so I don't know if she counts.
http://www.southcn.com/sports/star2/coulthard/simone/

http://www.southcn.com/sports/star2/coulthard/simone/200310170727_453116.jpg

I was gonna say that, if I'm giong with hottest DC's ex fits the bill.

http://villeneuve.gps.rivalsdm.com/mediastore/3/4/3404.jpg

I think Jacques's girl is the best. Cute and hot, but not slutty or fake looking.

-Matt

http://villeneuve.gps.rivalsdm.com/mediastore/3/4/3404.jpg

I think Jacques's girl is the best. Cute and hot, but not slutty or fake looking.

-Matt

I think they just tied the knot recently.

but shes with Jacques....sooo....automatic 5 point reduction.


+1 for Connie

this thread got out of hand fast :lol:


- Andrew

My bad. :)

Ya know for me ... beggers can't be choosers - I'd go with any or all of the above :D

but shes with Jacques....sooo....automatic 5 point reduction.
Awwww c'mon. I like Jacques! :lol:


-Matt

this thread got out of hand fast :lol:

haha, the race is over. its just another F1 OT thread now :banana:

its still on the general topic of F-1

I think they just tied the knot recently.

because she got pregnant. i wonder if either were planned or if the marriage was decided because of the baby... birthdate is around october.

Is she German? If you squint, she kind of looks like Sabine Schmidt from the Nurburgring.

Regarding Ralfie's wife...
Her poor eyebrows.....
:lol: :lol:
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e247/ralfs/ralfcoraeuro2006/rsceuro20061537.jpg

Is she German? If you squint, she kind of looks like Sabine Schmidt from the Nurburgring.

I bet Sabine is a much better driver. Has anyone seen the video of her driving the Ring taxi? Outstanding. Sorry, but I've lost the location of it. If anyone has it, can you post it?

Everybody knows that Eddie Irvine got the hottest girls...

I would hae to say Flavio got the best. I mean seriously. Namoi and Hedi?!?!

but Flav is pretty gross.
I hope when I'm a dirty old man I do half as well as him.

but Flav is pretty gross.
I hope when I'm a dirty old man I do half as well as him.

Sir Frank, Aren't you already older then Flav by a bit. Or is this an imposter? :p

^ true, but its always nice to have something to lookforward to. ;)

Sir Frank, Aren't you already older then Flav by a bit. Or is this an imposter? :p

yeh, but Williams has Pat Head. he doesnt need any skanky women :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpxkhWuZcZM

Ralph + Cora

ralf was in that clip? :lol:

Its on speed right now again.

maybe kimis engine will last the race for speeds coverage ;) :p

lol, genius? Not really. Now if he actually bumped the armco, and totally made it look like an accident, that would have been genius. There was no commitment here. Give up the team's time to get the car back in shape if you really want to do that and make it stick. He will join Massa at the back.

Genius? No, that was completely half-assed. :lol:

Yeah, should've lost a wheel or 2 to make it look genuine. As long as the engine's fine, what've you got to lose? Ferrari's got money, they can afford the parts to fix it.

I was LOL'ing when I watched the qualifying.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpxkhWuZcZM

Ralph + Cora
I know a guy that looks so much like Ralf.

I know a guy that looks so much like Ralf.

is his first name michael? LOL

is his first name michael? LOL

:lol: good call.

http://in.yimg.com/xp/reuters_ids_new/20050923/00/3913317828.jpg

What's up with those super skinny legs? I'm no Sir Mixalot, but gawd, she's scrawny. You'd end up with bruises on your hips.

What's up with those super skinny legs? I'm no Sir Mixalot, but gawd, she's scrawny. You'd end up with bruises on your hips.

theyre not that thin. she just doesnt have the usual feminine shape, doesnt look great for childbirth.

What's up with those super skinny legs? I'm no Sir Mixalot, but gawd, she's scrawny. You'd end up with bruises on your hips.
Looks like a normal young girl to me. :confused:

theyre not that thin. she just doesnt have the usual feminine shape, doesnt look great for childbirth.

Didn't she have a child with JPM already?

Didn't she have a child with JPM already?

Yup. Sebastian. He's adorable.

Didn't she have a child with JPM already?
Mannn... I wanna be the son of an F1 driver. :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpxkhWuZcZM

Ralph + Cora
:lol: She dresses like a whore at home too! :lol: