You can't do a pole with more than ten options so what track would you like to see gone and what track should the U.S. gp be run at?

Bahrain Grand Prix (Bahrain)
Malaysian Grand Prix (Sepang)
Australian Grand Prix (Melbourne)
San Marino Grand Prix (Imola)
European Grand Prix (Nurburgring)
Spanish Grand Prix (Barcelona)
Monaco Grand Prix (Monte Carlo)
British Grand Prix (Silverstone)
Canadian Grand Prix (Montreal)
United States Grand Prix (Indianapolis)
French Grand Prix (Mangy-Cours)
German Grand Prix (Hockenheim)
Hungarian Grand Prix (Hungaroring)
Turkish Grand Prix (Istanbul)
Italian Grand Prix (Monza)
Japanese Grand Prix (Suzuka)
Chinese Grand Prix (Shanghai)
Brazilian Grand Prix (Interlagos)

The US GP should be run at the new millermotorsports park....its a $58 million dollar facility with pit garages and and awesome track...with some nice amenities...

I would want to see the Monaco Grand Prix or the Italian Grand Prix

San Marino goes and the USGP stays at Indy, they're the only one who can afford to run the race.

Bahrain, waaaay to hot!1!

drop bahrain.

Hungray. I hate that track. It's like a street race without any of the charm.

I like the current line up except I would like to see the US GP at Laguna Seca.

Get rid of the USGP at Indianapolis, and move it to Laguna Seca or somewhere other than an oval track.

I like the current line up except I would like to see the US GP at Laguna Seca.

Me too. :)

Get rid of all the Herman Tilke tracks. Indy I could live without, as well.

laguna seca would be awsome, but I think it needs some SERIOUS renovation before hosting an F1 race, no?

Indy.

I don't like Tony George.

Bring it to Laguna Seca/Road America/Watkins Glen/etc.

drop United States Grand Prix (Indianapolis)

enjoy spa 2005
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Get rid of Bahrain, move the USGP to Road America

Japanese Grand Prix, later!

Laguna Seca will never happen, its not safe enough and its basically a street course with the lack of passing opportunities.

Get rid of the USGP at Indianapolis, and move it to Laguna Seca or somewhere other than an oval track.
+1, F1 is known for being fast around corners, an oval doesn't show the talent of the drivers or the full performance of the cars.

Anything but the Japanese Grand Prix and Monaco, those are the two F1 races I want to go to in my lifetime.

T.Vo

Laguna Seca will never happen, its not safe enough and its basically a street course with the lack of passing opportunities.
+1
Also, the run offs cause yellow flag periods every other lap because the cars get buried in the sand. There's no place a driver can put a wheel wrong w/o bunching up the whole field with a full corse caution.

Anything but the Japanese Grand Prix and Monaco, those are the two F1 races I want to go to in my lifetime.

T.Vo

Suzuka is provisionally out for next year, its going to Fuji. They might get the Pacific GP slot though if something else is dropped.

drop the european GP layout and run the whole nurburgring nordschielfe like the old days. and switch the UGP to laguna seca

engineers would love that. They would need to make a special car just for the ring and its crappy surface. :lol:

USGP. Indy

Suzuka is provisionally out for next year, its going to Fuji. They might get the Pacific GP slot though if something else is dropped.

What, no Suzuka? That's friggin BS!! I can't remember the turn name, a letter then a number.....but it's almost as famous for separating the men from the boys as Au Rouge.

Hungray. I hate that track. It's like a street race without any of the charm.

I hate you...:mad:...:lol:

Seriously, it's Finlands "home race". As many as 20k Finns show up there annually.



Mika

i dont really think we should get rid of any of them, but i guess i could do without either bahrain or one of the two german or italian tracks, +1 for the old nurburgring.

as for USGP, it should be at Infineon on the sports car course, i love that track with the elevation changes and its swaying sequences, perfect for an F1 car.

What, no Suzuka? That's friggin BS!! I can't remember the turn name, a letter then a number.....but it's almost as famous for separating the men from the boys as Au Rouge.

Its not really BS, they didn't negotiate well enough to keep the home race. The european GP will probably be going away so they'll be able to have two races. The turn at Suzuka is 130R. Its a big turn but it isn't close to Eau Rouge just because of the short length of it.

I hate you...:mad:...:lol:

Seriously, it's Finlands "home race". As many as 20k Finns show up there annually.



Mika
lol :lol:
If the USGP moves I would like to see at Road America or Road Atlanta for the track but I think it needs to be a more metro place then either of those. If they could craft a good race track at Vegas I would love to see it. Both of the road courses are fantastic as race courses but it has to be a place the Germans, Finns, Brits, Indians (dot not feather), Japense and the like would actually like to travel to. Hell, I would like to be in a place with some centralised night life too. Indy is surprisingly fun in that regard.

Spa, Sazuka & Monza have to be there IHMO. The tracks are too good with too much history. They are true race tracks.

Since I live down the street from the track in Indy, it's nice to have it here because it keeps my property taxes down. Other than that, if any of them move, I'd move the Indy one to Vegas.

Get rid of all the Herman Tilke tracks. Indy I could live without, as well.

+11ty billion

Give me back the old Hockenheimring, too (I think the new one is Tilke?). The new tracks are too sterile. I like the tracks with character and variety because it makes the engineers and drivers have to work a little harder and just makes it more interesting in general when you add in the historic factor.

I can't wait for Spa to return.

-Charlie

Give me back the old Hockenheimring, too (I think the new one is Tilke?). The new tracks are too sterile. I like the tracks with character and variety because it makes the engineers and drivers have to work a little harder and just makes it more interesting in general when you add in the historic factor.

I can't wait for Spa to return.

-Charlie
The drivers think so too, but F1 is all about the $$, so as long as those new Asian/Mid-east tracks keep bucking up, they'll stay. I too think they're kinda boring. Malaysia has cool looking grandstands, but gets my vote to go.
Love to see USGP at RA but agree it's not metro enough area. Indy is the only place that has the facilities and I don't see any of the others spending the millions it would take to upgrade to F1's obscene standards.
And no way in a zillion years would they run at the 'Ring again.

+11ty billion

Give me back the old Hockenheimring, too (I think the new one is Tilke?). The new tracks are too sterile. I like the tracks with character and variety because it makes the engineers and drivers have to work a little harder and just makes it more interesting in general when you add in the historic factor.

I can't wait for Spa to return.

-Charlie
I was with you guys on the Tilke thing up until I saw Turkey. He actually got one right. Like David Hobbes says you actually get the sense that they are going some where. Bahrain, Hockenhiem, Malaysia etc. so fell like they are simply driving in circles.

Hungary is by far the worst.

Actually, why not move the USGP to Infineon Raceway?

Actually, why not move the USGP to Infineon Raceway?


theres no reason not to, i think its one of the best tracks.

like has been said already the likely hood of a track being taken off the schedule is all politics and money, Toyota sunk oogles of money into Fuji in hopes of taking away the F1 race from Honda and Suzuka. Personally I feel Fuji is far more lame of a track than Suzuka but my opinion doesn't mean squat lol. I say pull Hungary as well, and take USGP to Infineon like everyone else has said

Actually, why not move the USGP to Infineon Raceway?

Not safe enough, crap pit complex, and there probably isn't enough support areas around teh track to support all the personal so they can sleep somewhere.

Not safe enough, crap pit complex, and there probably isn't enough support areas around teh track to support all the personal so they can sleep somewhere.

But it can support the 43 nascar teams with upwards or 50 crew members apeace and what ever support serise is running at the same time.


But +1 for not safe enough

But +1 for not safe enough

that can be relatively easily fixed. pave it and do the paul ricard thing for run-offs.

+1, F1 is known for being fast around corners, an oval doesn't show the talent of the drivers or the full performance of the cars.

The Indy GP uses half of the oval and the rest is a road race course. I don't recall any of the F1 drivers complaining about the Indy course.

Keep Indy.

As previousley said, F1 is far to sterile, there's still some fantastic old tracks about if only they would leave them alone "Monza" for one put o'rouge back to how it was, Motor Racing is Dangerous ????? not F1 any more where is the sparkle?? lets see the devil put back into it !!

Interlagos needs to go.

The Brazillian GP needs a new home badly.

But it can support the 43 nascar teams with upwards or 50 crew members apeace and what ever support serise is running at the same time.


But +1 for not safe enough

They don't have 50 crew members a piece. F1 requires much more technology then NASCAR in the pits, they would have to make an entirely new complex like they did at Indy.

F1 is still very dangerous, we've just been lucky that no driver has been killed. Every since I started watching F1 there has been one or two accidents a year where the driver would have died if he was in a less safe car. The issue is you can't have walls 4 feet away from the track when the cars are going as fast as they are, which most of the tracks people have said should enter have all over the place. True, Indy has it too, but they have the safer walls now and it being Indy (like monaco) it is given prescendnese over other tracks.

Brickyard should stay, I love it. Bahrain should stay too since a great challenge. I personally don't have a single circuit I'd like be gone. Rather would like some more added. Another American circuit would be awesome. And one in Eastern EU would be nice too (St. Petersburg or Moscow)

Brickyard should stay, I love it. Bahrain should stay too since a great challenge. I personally don't have a single circuit I'd like be gone. Rather would like some more added. Another American circuit would be awesome. And one in Eastern EU would be nice too (St. Petersburg or Moscow)

oo a Russian GP at Moscow would be great. Id like to that too, anyone know of any circuits over there?

As previousley said, F1 is far to sterile, there's still some fantastic old tracks about if only they would leave them alone "Monza" for one put o'rouge back to how it was, Motor Racing is Dangerous ????? not F1 any more where is the sparkle?? lets see the devil put back into it !!

do drivers need to die for you to enjoy F1? thats pretty sick if you ask me. Look at how the death of Senna effected the sport, definately not what most fans want to see.

Put the US Gran Prix somewhere else...there a plenty of amazing tracks in the US that can make the USGP a much greater race

British Grand Prix (Silverstone)

oo a Russian GP at Moscow would be great. Id like to that too, anyone know of any circuits over there?

They've been building one around Moscow, but F1 management and Russians didn't agree or something so that's been given up. From what I understand there's a possibility for another one near St. Petersburg in 2008.

There's supposed to be one in Cancun too. It was supposed to be in the 06 season and then got pushed back to 07. I haven't heard a word about it in over a year though.

They've been building one around Moscow, but F1 management and Russians didn't agree or something so that's been given up. From what I understand there's a possibility for another one near St. Petersburg in 2008.

Yea, it was supposed to happen in 05, but it keeps on getting pushed back since there are political issues...like the head contractor getting killed and stuff.

There's supposed to be one in Cancun too. It was supposed to be in the 06 season and then got pushed back to 07. I haven't heard a word about it in over a year though.

Yep, the mexican GP was supposed to be there, but it is being pushed back. I think the schedule might expand to 20 races in 08 with more money being given to the teams so they can have more personel working individual races and not spending as much on the cars.

Keep the USGP at Indy for selfish reasons as I want to be able to afford to go - AND I know where to go to get autographs... ;)

As far as what to nix - Bahrain.

The Indy GP uses half of the oval and the rest is a road race course. I don't recall any of the F1 drivers complaining about the Indy course.


"There also are racing risks [Schumacher] is not willing to take.

One is America’s premier auto race, the Indianapolis 500. “It's a step down from Formula One,” he tells Rose. "And second, it's too dangerous.”

Too dangerous?

“The speed you do, that close to the walls, if you have an accident, there is no way a chassis can survive a certain way of having a crash,” he explains. “And that means your legs gonna be heavily damaged, or even further. And I don't see any point in that. I have nothing to prove there. I don't see a challenge in it.” "

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/05/07/60II/main508224.shtml

He's not the only one.

Keep it at Indy but expand the track to make use of more than just Turn One, get that back straight and a couple more of the banked corners in there and it would be absolutely magic.

Keep it at Indy but expand the track to make use of more than just Turn One, get that back straight and a couple more of the banked corners in there and it would be absolutely magic.

then you would have 3/4 of an oval and only 5 turns? might as well watch the pit laps of the Indy 500, it would be the same course.

Get rid of the USGP at Indianapolis, and move it to Laguna Seca or somewhere other than an oval track.
has my vote!!

then you would have 3/4 of an oval and only 5 turns? might as well watch the pit laps of the Indy 500, it would be the same course.

No, instead of turning to the right to get on the back stretch turn to the left and use NASCAR turn 3, go down half the backstrech and turn rigth back into the infield turn 10 180 to make it a nice passing opportunity.

oh, so use the infield exactly how it is, but make left turns onto and off of it? basically using the part of the oval we dont use now, and dont use the part we do use now? but where would be Start/Finish and how would that be any different then using the front straight? its just an oval...

USGP will not be gone.

Am I the only one that loves the look of Monaco but thinks the F1 racing there is boring as hell?

Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
www.teamSMR.com

Am I the only one that loves the look of Monaco but thinks the F1 racing there is boring as hell?

Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
www.teamSMR.com
I can see what you mean but it's not boring to me because of the risk factor. Just about any mistake = the end of your day. It keeps me on the edge of my seat until the checkered everytime.

oh, so use the infield exactly how it is, but make left turns onto and off of it? basically using the part of the oval we dont use now, and dont use the part we do use now? but where would be Start/Finish and how would that be any different then using the front straight? its just an oval...

It would extend teh circuit by about 30 seconds. The SF would stay where it is.

I think they could have done a better job building the in feild part of the circut but i think long beach would be a better place or maybe a street curcit in NYC or Vagas

Still completely confused on your Indy idea and how you want to rearrange it. This is what i think you meant, but you say the S/F will stay where it is?

http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/4883/newlayout4uj.jpg

how is that? How can you incorporate the back straight, infield and S/F on this layout? Or do you want to change the infield design?

This is along the lines of what I was thinking, or something like it. Make the track longer, use more of what's already there and I think Indy could go from merely an OK track to a truly classic venue for F1.

http://www.pbase.com/image/61104508/original.jpg

I seem to remember Tony George saying they had some ideas for extending the track in the future, but I've never seen any proposals.

This is what I am thinking of. Let there be a big straight to the turn so there is a passing zone

http://www.stuartbecktell.com/f1_map.gif