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mh_WRX
06-05-2006, 12:28 PM
Spy Shots: 2008 Chevrolet Impala
Is this a Zeta or a Malibu replacement?
by KGP Photography (2006-06-05)

http://www.thecarconnection.com/images/gallery/10950_RYGOUKVIDPUZA.jpg

A new, never-before-seen prototype has just broken cover on GM's testing circuit, providing what appears to be our first glimpse of the 2008 Chevy Impala (or a 2008 Malibu - see the note below). We snapped this minimally disguised prototype traversing a distant road deep within one of GM's U.S. Proving Grounds. The great distance between car and camera has made the checkerboard camouflage tape a little more effective, obscuring some of this prototype's more minute details.

Therefore, there is admittedly some degree of speculation involved in calling this the next-generation Impala, but we are confident this is a Chevrolet. The prototype's grille is divided by a Chevy-like crossbar, in the center of which lies a taped-over badge that looks suspiciously like the size and shape of the Chevrolet bow tie.

Searching GM's recent design exercises for similar styling cues brought us to the 2003 Chevrolet SS concept. Although there isn't much synergy between that voluptuous show car sedan and this real-world prototype, it's immediately apparent that the shape of their grilles are nearly identical - suggesting that Chevrolet designers may have been looking to their recent past for detail inspiration. The prototype also appears to have round taillamps - a key design trait of Impalas from 2001-05 and the classic Impalas of the late '50s and early '60s. The rest of the car looks clean and modern, with sharp creases and a strong stance aided by its long wheelbase and relatively short front and rear overhangs.

http://www.thecarconnection.com/images/gallery/10951_WWDBPZEZCFPSB.jpg

Since early this year, GM has been finalizing its plans on the next Impala, struggling with a key decision between front- and rear-wheel drive. The leading proposal would have GM utilizing its Global RWD Architecture (formerly known as Zeta), which will spawn its first model later this year as the replacement for the Australian Holden Commodore. According to an article by Rick Kranz in the February 6,

2006 issue of Automotive News: "Within four or five months, GM will determine which U.S. brands will be tagged for RWD and which RWD model or models those brands will receive. The first car is expected to go on sale in late 2007 or early 2008....As for the Impala, GM's design studio is prepared for the decision - both RWD and FWD versions of the next-generation Impala have been finalized. All that remains is the decision."

Well, it's four months later and a this prototype has appeared, its proportions looking very close to a prototype for the Zeta-based Holden Commodore we shot in this same GM test track last November. It's not iron-clad proof, but it looks to us that the next Impala may have gone rear-wheel drive to gain some performance-car credibility, and to do battle with Chrysler's popular 300C.

UPDATE: Several sources have written to TheCarConnection, reporting that this vehicle is the 2008 Chevrolet Malibu. There remains some disagreement over whether the Impala will be replaced in 2008 or 2010; stay tuned for more information as we uncover more about this new GM vehicle.

Yotsuya
06-05-2006, 12:42 PM
As for the Impala, GM's design studio is prepared for the decision - both RWD and FWD versions of the next-generation Impala have been finalized. All that remains is the decision."

Now that's a lot of money that will be wasted no matter which way they go. What kind of ego/inertia issues is GM having if they're running dual programs? Even if they decide to become Chrysler's ape with a RWD Impala, they're doing it for a lot more coin (especially since DC used so much of the old E class in the 300/Charger) and it'll have to be a big hit to justify the costs.

BOY
06-05-2006, 02:32 PM
Call me crazy but the lines on the front of the vehicle look very CTS Caddy and the rear looks very Dodge Stratus.

Chromer
06-05-2006, 03:44 PM
Actually, as alluded to in the article -- it has a whole lot of Holden Commodore in it. Been watching this season's Aussie V8 Supercars all weekend, and this does have a lot of Holden in the shape but with a somewhat sleeker greenhouse. The current version has a bit taller cabin, and the rear window doesn't project back as far.

VWGrk1
06-05-2006, 04:04 PM
Now that's a lot of money that will be wasted no matter which way they go. What kind of ego/inertia issues is GM having if they're running dual programs? Even if they decide to become Chrysler's ape with a RWD Impala, they're doing it for a lot more coin (especially since DC used so much of the old E class in the 300/Charger) and it'll have to be a big hit to justify the costs.

But they've already spent the money on the platforms. Sunk costs. They have to develop cars based on those already-developed platforms in order to make the whole thing worhtwhile.

This is a good move, I think. Hopefully, the end result is a winner. Better competition = a better car for all of us.

quentinberg007
06-05-2006, 05:16 PM
I like the first pic... the 2nd pic looks like the nose shares the side profile of that horrendous wanna-be-SUV van that Chevy sells.

~~Quentin

Hazdaz
06-05-2006, 07:04 PM
It looks modern-ish... something that you haven't been able to say about a Chevy mid-size sedan for quite some time.

THe camoflague really does a good job in hiding it's true form, so I would be very curious what this car ends up looking like. Just from those photos, to me, it looks kind of like a cross between the last generation Camry with the nose/grill of the Yaris.

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:shrug:

VWGrk1
06-06-2006, 10:14 AM
I agree, it does look like that. Co-incidentally, I was thinking a cross between the new Camry and the Caddy CTS.

Eyeflyistheeye
06-06-2006, 08:37 PM
Whatever happens, GM should sell both the RWD and FWD versions of the car they developed.

They can call the FWD one the Malibu and the RWD one a Caprice or Impala.

Derbagger
06-06-2006, 11:05 PM
I think the rear looks like the Buick Lucerne. GM was saying that there'd be a rear drive buick on the next GTO/Camaro platform.

johnei
06-07-2006, 04:36 PM
Some pictures of the Holden Commodore VE - Zeta 07/08
Looks very similar to the Malibu
http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/07/gms-first-zeta-spied-20072008-holden-commodore-ve/#more-2973

Yotsuya
06-07-2006, 04:44 PM
But they've already spent the money on the platforms. Sunk costs.
I'm not talking about sunk costs; according to the article they're doing development for two cars and one's going to get thrown out (assuming they don't re-brand the non-Impala as something else, they we can argue about needless production :)). The Zeta platform is a sunk cost; designing one version of the Impala for it and another for some FWD architecture is another kettle of fish altogether.

Hazdaz
06-07-2006, 07:26 PM
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/1-2007-2008-holden-commodore-ve-spied.jpg

That's nto a bad looking car. Maybe a little too plain looking, but it actually looks like a family sedan version of one of the older Skylines.



http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/11-2007-2008-holden-commodore-ve-spied.jpg

From this angle it actually looks like a 3-series (espesially the front overhang which looks very short - which is a typical 3-series trait).

Overall, if the Chevy version looks like these cars, that would not necissarily be a bad thing at all really.

Handsome - but a little boring - is way the hell better than something like this:

http://www.davo.com/_248-588-9600_/images/chevy/Chevy_Monte_Carlo_LTTail.jpg

BigElm
06-07-2006, 11:13 PM
If the Malibu ends up looking something like the Commodore, then GM is definitely shifting gears to get back in the game... http://www.fmvperformance.com/forum_items/Smileys/default/exnbpup.gif

Blitzkrieg
06-07-2006, 11:37 PM
Now all we need is Ford to follow and bring over their ausie cars

BlitZ

Chromer
06-08-2006, 12:06 AM
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/11-2007-2008-holden-commodore-ve-spied.jpg

Damn, that looks almost exactly like the current Commodore, just add about 8"-10" to the trunk and bump the greenhouse a bit higher.

Sharp lookin' car.

/me looks at image properties. Ah.. It IS the next Commodore.

Chromer
06-08-2006, 12:12 AM
Now all we need is Ford to follow and bring over their ausie cars

BlitZ

Um, yeah. The only cars Ford North America does are the Mustang and fleet-sales cars. They won't even sell us a "good" Focus because the US engineers didn't have a hand in it (okay, so that's speculation, but it seems "Not Invented Here" is a factor). Maybe Mazda could bring it though...

VWGrk1
06-08-2006, 09:55 AM
They do bring it, in the form of the Mazda 3. It gets great reviews, too. Shame that Ford does not want to impress....

That said, the Fusion is a nice car, IMO. Just not nice or special enough to make me consider it over, say, a WRX or Camry or Civic Si, etc....

VWGrk1
06-08-2006, 10:34 AM
I'm not talking about sunk costs; according to the article they're doing development for two cars and one's going to get thrown out (assuming they don't re-brand the non-Impala as something else, they we can argue about needless production :)). The Zeta platform is a sunk cost; designing one version of the Impala for it and another for some FWD architecture is another kettle of fish altogether.

I see what you are saying. I took the article to mean that GM will release a FWD and RWD car. They will have to decide what goes where. Meaning if the Impala gets to be RWD, then the Malibu or Monte Carlo will get FWD or vice versa. That decision was made already and the article is guessing that RWD was chosen.

Another consideration is the Camaro (if built). Do they save the RWD for the Camaro? Does the Camaro simply become an Impala coupe and you get rid of the Monte Carlo? How many RWD cars does GM want / need? We like RWD, as enthusiasts, but I'd wager that most of America prefers FWD. Just thinking aloud, here.