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atcsubaru 06-08-2006, 05:40 PM Hey guys/gals, I am about to move there in less than a week and was wondering how strict the laws are for tint and emissions. I am leaving texas and we dont really have much rules about tint, and there is no missions test here. This way i know what i need to do to my car so i can get it legall so i can get it registered there.
Right no i just got A AEM cai, Turbo XS uppipe and down pipe, any one that has theese have a prob getting it past emissions up there?
Thanx a bunch.
brian_i 06-08-2006, 05:43 PM 70% front.. 40% back.. not sure if u'll pass with uppipe and downpipe. As for ur intake, I keep reading over and over how CAI hurt performance so may want to consider taking that off.
Mavrik 06-08-2006, 05:47 PM tint can be a problem... cops seem to be more concerned about tint and exhaust then actual crimes lol. Certain CAI can hurt performance but SPT now as one available for the Impreza which will not void your warranty if the failure is blamed on the intake.
As for emissions tests... Maddogg (jerry) is a certified IM tech with continental motors. He would know whats required to pass.
And btw Welcome to Alaska and AKIC
atcsubaru 06-08-2006, 05:47 PM is it a visual inspection for emissions or they just put the lil tjing in the exhaust? In CA it depended where i took my car O.o had to know some ppl. And for the CAI ive read the same and was wondering if getting just a Apex'i SAFC would help the issue of leaning out the mixture. Any advice is appreciated.
edited spelling, i suck at it
Mavrik 06-08-2006, 05:48 PM I believe its a visual inspection of the exhaust system and not a dyno run test with a sniffer.
brian_i 06-08-2006, 06:02 PM I know its visual and I do think they do a sniff. from what parts you have they will notice. So you may just have to do a removal before the test.
SQUAD_907 06-08-2006, 06:08 PM plug in and visual only...and it depends on were u go too...
AKSubie 06-08-2006, 06:13 PM Welcome up here. You'll enjoy it I think.
Tint: as mentioned 70% (nothing really) up front and 30% (although CAN do darker without too much hassle) for the rear. They MAINLY are concerned with the front side windows AFAIK. *seems* many are able to get by with 40% up front.
Emissions: Alaska Carbon Copied Califronias rules. You must pass a visual and an OBD scan. there are no AWD dynos, and last time I was there I didnt notice a sniff, I believe they only sniff older than 99. ANY aftermarket part has to have a CARB number on it, or you can go to the referee station and see if they can let you pass, kind of like appealing to a higher court.
AKLGT 06-09-2006, 04:04 AM i heard they changed the emissions thing and we only have to do IM tests every 4 yrs for 04+ vehicles. :D i think maddog posted a thread a while ago about that... i could be wrong though.
welcome to AK, you're coming up at the best time of the year! :D
and if you keep your TX plates on the car, they generally don't hassle you too much.. from what i've been told.
SQUAD_907 06-09-2006, 12:20 PM i heard they changed the emissions thing and we only have to do IM tests every 4 yrs for 04+ vehicles. :D i think maddog posted a thread a while ago about that... i could be wrong though.
welcome to AK, you're coming up at the best time of the year! :D
and if you keep your TX plates on the car, they generally don't hassle you too much.. from what i've been told.
wrong! since 2000...but u do have 4 yrs till ur first i/m test...
AKLGT 06-09-2006, 01:58 PM so anything from 2000+ doesn't have to do IM testing for 4 yrs? right? :)
Mavrik 06-09-2006, 02:07 PM According to the memo I have... its 2004 and onward that have the 4 year extension, unless there was a recent memo out and I did not get it.
Edit
Ok here is what my memo says unless there is a new one.
Effective 10/04/05 - beginning with the model year 2004, new vehicles are exempt for the first four years. 2004 vehicles do not need an IM. However vehicles older then 2004 will.
We're still doing IMs on all the used cars older then 2004.
AKLGT 06-09-2006, 02:13 PM ok, that's what i thought. i remember jerry posting up about it while back... :(
SQUAD_907 06-09-2006, 02:25 PM According to the memo I have... its 2004 and onward that have the 4 year extension, unless there was a recent memo out and I did not get it.
Edit
Ok here is what my memo says unless there is a new one.
We're still doing IMs on all the used cars older then 2004.
extention! but 2000+ didn't have to have an i/m until 4 yrs later...i have a 02, which came out in 01 so in 03 when my tags first expired i just got new tags in the mail good for another 2 yrs...understand? ur wife said only 04+ didn't have to i/m which is not tru... ;)
Mavrik 06-09-2006, 02:34 PM That must be something special up here which I was not aware of. If I was in Ontario right now my car would be due this month for an IM. Every car is due for its emissions test every 2 years including all 2000 and newer models.
But I get what your saying Chris.
AKLGT 06-09-2006, 02:37 PM i've always bought NEW since 1998, i've NEVER been just mailed the tags without getting IM. that's one of the main reasons i got rid of my 03 vibe gt last April when the tags were due and i was sent the renewal form and where to get the IM done. Chris, are you sure about that? prior to the vibe i bought in 03, i has an 01 Tundra that also was due for tags 2 yrs later...
cooparu 06-09-2006, 02:42 PM The 4 years before IM is nice, if I was to mod the hell out of my car. I wouldn't have to de-mod until 2009. I don't see myself really taking advantage. :(
Conti guys, I have no power mods and no plans to do so until after my warranty is up. Thanks.
STI swap in 2010! :lol:
SQUAD_907 06-09-2006, 02:47 PM i've always bought NEW since 1998, i've NEVER been just mailed the tags without getting IM. that's one of the main reasons i got rid of my 03 vibe gt last April when the tags were due and i was sent the renewal form and where to get the IM done. Chris, are you sure about that? prior to the vibe i bought in 03, i has an 01 Tundra that also was due for tags 2 yrs later...
yup...got my tags in the mail and also the tags for the sti in nov...no i/m needed...or maybe i'm just special...but this has been discussed many times before...
SQUAD_907 06-09-2006, 02:49 PM The 4 years before IM is nice, if I was to mod the hell out of my car. I wouldn't have to de-mod until 2009. I don't see myself really taking advantage. :(
Conti guys, I have no power mods and no plans to do so until after my warranty is up. Thanks.
STI swap in 2010! :lol:
but u auto-x so u already voided ur warranty! lol
Mavrik 06-09-2006, 02:58 PM Guess your just special Chris. :D
Mavrik 06-09-2006, 02:58 PM but u auto-x so u already voided ur warranty! lol
LOL I don't see anything out there. Who did what when now?
cooparu 06-09-2006, 03:00 PM (stuffs a $20 bill in Phil's chest pocket)
:p
SQUAD_907 06-09-2006, 03:10 PM (stuffs a $20 bill in Phil's chest pocket)
:p
:lol:
Mavrik 06-09-2006, 03:12 PM (stuffs a $20 bill in Phil's chest pocket)
:p
Only a $20? heck the wife pays me more then that :D
kidding but seriously. I'm there to have a good time and my car still has warranty on it also. I was always taught no one likes a tattle tale.
Anyway this is way off topic. lol
It always made me wonder why the new cars needed IM tests anyway when they "should" be running cleaner then the older exhaust-less rust buckets rattling around town in a cloud of blue smoke. *cough* :confused:
cooparu 06-09-2006, 04:44 PM Only a $20?
I kept the amount low in case you held me to it. ;)
AKLGT 06-09-2006, 05:00 PM ha ha ha! hubby is pimping services... :P
so, i guess the IM question is a little unclear. but you will probably be ok with the IM inspection, you may or may not have to worry aobut it since you have an 04...
let us know when you're here! we like to have get togethers all the time! :)
AKSubie 06-09-2006, 05:07 PM I believe there is an older thread around here, but starting with 2002 models there was a 2 yr extension, meaning you had to get new tags but were waived the IM, perhaps now 2004 and up gets a 4 year extension? meaning you can renew twice before needing an IM, as oppossed to once.
Another thought is perhaps on newer cars they are going to start "IMing" every 4 years? i.e. tags are good for 4 years? I HIGHLY doubt this scenario seeing as money grubbing as the muni is.
And yes, Chris is "special"
SQUAD_907 06-09-2006, 05:51 PM I believe there is an older thread around here, but starting with 2002 models there was a 2 yr extension, meaning you had to get new tags but were waived the IM, perhaps now 2004 and up gets a 4 year extension? meaning you can renew twice before needing an IM, as oppossed to once.
Another thought is perhaps on newer cars they are going to start "IMing" every 4 years? i.e. tags are good for 4 years? I HIGHLY doubt this scenario seeing as money grubbing as the muni is.
And yes, Chris is "special"
lol...not short bus special i hope! :p
Mavrik 06-09-2006, 06:11 PM lol...not short bus special i hope! :p
I'm a firm believer that its rude to make fun of retarded "aka" special people so I won't tease you any more Chris :D
AKSubie 06-09-2006, 06:57 PM LOL, noooo, not short bus :P although they ARE smaller i.e. faster ;)
cooparu 06-09-2006, 07:04 PM as money grubbing as the muni is.
You've developed into quite the bitter old man. :p
Coming from NY which does it annually (or did up until I left), Anchorage has a better and cheaper I/M-Registration system. And way better taxes (runs for cover).
Everything's relative.
WRXnFX 06-09-2006, 07:49 PM Welcome.
Did you drive from Texas?
Winslow
AKLGT 06-09-2006, 08:08 PM I'm a firm believer that its rude to make fun of retarded "aka" special people so I won't tease you any more Chris :D
that is so un PC! lol.
but, as winslow already asked, are you driving up? or flying?
AKSubie 06-09-2006, 09:00 PM You've developed into quite the bitter old man. :p
LOL, no, I am not bitter, err I mean old.
Ya, its relative, we too in missouri had an IM every year. however it was only $15 for new tags. HOWEVER you got charged for personal property tax each year as well.
I mainly am just against the fact Alaska, whom only 2 cities out of the whole state require emission testing as strict as California while the total population of the state is closer to the size of LA, MEANWHILE we dont get the ethenol higher octane gas which COULD make us run cleaner.. Uhhhh.. do what??
atcsubaru 06-10-2006, 12:15 AM Thanx for all the help ill post again when i get there, my PC is being shipped with all my stuff so i wont be able to post for w while. See ya soon.
Todd.
AKLGT 06-10-2006, 01:57 AM yep, let us know when you arrive. :) good luck with the move!
AK_2002_WRX 06-10-2006, 04:56 PM so has anyone been IM tested with a highflow cat in place? i wonder if i would pass? all the monitors are set and i'm not throwing any codes.
00Maddog 06-11-2006, 05:32 PM anything older then 04 has to have i/m every 2yrs, no exceptions. 04 won't be due till 4 years from the sale date. sometimes errors are made and people slip by with mailers, but usually it's due to the registration location, or the date of sale.
atc, since you have an 04 you don't have anything to worry about until 08. then you will need to reinstall your stock downpipe (both cats) and you should pass fine. some shops will fail for atmospheric bov's if they understand what they are. cai should be no problem as it's not defeating any cold start features.
and my 02, ditch the cai!
and phil, the spt is a short ram! short ram>cai...on a turbo sube that is...
Mavrik 06-11-2006, 11:36 PM yeah Jerry I've seen the pics but I still have CAI stuck in my head lol
So Chris I guess you are special... or sleeping with someone at the DMV. Tell me its not the fat guy :D
akbigbud907 06-12-2006, 08:48 PM What are the I/M laws regarding engine swaps? I want a newer turbo motor in my 98 Legacy.
AKSubie 06-12-2006, 08:52 PM From what I recall, the resulting engine/chassis configuration has to match an already approved engine/chassis configuration from the EPA. As in....
WRX engine into 91 Impreza = "OK"
WRX Engine into 98 Legacy = "Not OK"
LGT Engine into 98 Legacy = "OK"
Eby might no more about the ins and outs, but IIRC, even the swap woudl need to go throughthe referee station.
WRXnFX 06-12-2006, 09:33 PM From what I recall, the resulting engine/chassis configuration has to match an already approved engine/chassis configuration from the EPA.
Yup, that's the hard and fast rule. Or you could get a seasonal tag and drive the car 7 months out of the year (Oct-Apr).
WRX engine into 91 Impreza = "OK" .
Is that even possible?
Winslow
AK_2002_WRX 06-12-2006, 09:34 PM so i won't need an I/M until October 2008?
akbigbud907 06-12-2006, 11:09 PM From what I recall, the resulting engine/chassis configuration has to match an already approved engine/chassis configuration from the EPA. As in....
WRX engine into 91 Impreza = "OK"
WRX Engine into 98 Legacy = "Not OK"
LGT Engine into 98 Legacy = "OK"
Eby might no more about the ins and outs, but IIRC, even the swap woudl need to go throughthe referee station.
What about a motor from a JDM legacy?
AKSubie 06-13-2006, 01:03 AM Is that even possible?
Winslow
Yes, its possible, VERY difficult but possible. Eby did it. (or was it a 93) but it has been done.
AKSubie 06-13-2006, 01:05 AM What about a motor from a JDM legacy?
Nope, a JDM legacy did not meet EPA guidlines for that particular engine. Granted in Ohio or Nebraska it migth be able to get away with it. (seeing as soem only REALLY care abotuthe important stuff, like what pollutants its expelling) but here in Las Anchorage, it has to be an EPA certified combonation.
WRXnFX 06-13-2006, 01:27 AM Yes, its possible, VERY difficult but possible. Eby did it. (or was it a 93) but it has been done.
I was giving you a hard time about the WRX engine into a 91 impreza.
Impreza's didn't come out until 93. ;)
Yes, and this only applies to US MY engine chassis combinations.
Winslow
AKSubie 06-13-2006, 01:42 AM I was giving you a hard time about the WRX engine into a 91 impreza.
Impreza's didn't come out until 93. ;)
Yes, and this only applies to US MY engine chassis combinations.
Winslow
DOH!! blasted... well ,you see, if you take a 93, scrape off the little legs on the 3 (much like a wiper blade smearing the shoepolish) it becomes a 91 ;) LOL.
XR4Tim 06-13-2006, 03:28 AM I'm pretty sure the motor has to be the same year or newer than the chassis it's going into as well.
akbigbud907 06-14-2006, 05:09 AM Well if the new Legacy GT has the 2.5Turbo, can I use the motor from any model with the 2.5 turbo, or will the ECU tell the I/M that its from a differnt model.
AKSubie 06-14-2006, 11:53 AM Not sure on that, its a good question. In theory I'd say it shouldnt matter, for it now comes with a 2.5turbo, and there is a 2.5 turbo in it. granted it might be out of a STi or Forester. How is the referee to know though? If its anything like Audi they can at least get the ECU #, and that perhaps can be researched against. Will the muni do that?? I have no idea.
WRXnFX 06-14-2006, 02:08 PM Who know's if they will look this deep? I was told that they have a list of approved manufacturer's engine/chassis combinations CODES.
STi engine Code = ej257
Legacy GT engine code = ej255
I think those are right. Some cars have this code on a sticker on the timing cover. You might find it on the block, too.
Winslow
akbigbud907 06-14-2006, 08:28 PM Which models had the ej255?
yukon1 06-17-2006, 02:40 AM welcome, now get out while you can.
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