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RallySport Direct
06-08-2006, 06:44 PM
Prodrive has given us the go ahead to release the pictures of thier new Cold Air intake they have been working on.

http://www.rallysportdirect.com/forumimages/prodrive/prodrivecai-1.jpg
http://www.rallysportdirect.com/forumimages/prodrive/prodrivecai-2.jpg

This intake system has a few things that are unique about them.

They are CARB Certified, this means they are Street Legal in all 50 States.

They utilize a Dry Paper Air filter, a oil-less system that doesnt use oil on the filter, so no oil will be able to travel up the pipe to contaminate the MAF sensor. Cleanup on them is easy as well, soap and water to clean the filter, rinse it out with water, and let it dry in the sun. They have a lifetime long filter, so you don't need to worry about replacing it.

Either way, we are pretty excited about it, we do not have pricing as of yet, release date should be in the next week or so, if you are interested, subscribe to the thread, we will post pricing when we get it.

UPDATE
299.99 List
275.99 - Introductory Pricing

Any feedback would be much appreciated.

Nick
RallySport Direct
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remowgn
06-08-2006, 07:14 PM
That sure is purdy. How bout them coilovers peeking in the top of the picture there? Are they prodrive units too? :)

wgb113
06-08-2006, 07:29 PM
Is this for N/A or turbo models?

Bill

ShaggyGT
06-08-2006, 08:14 PM
Sent a PM. Having issues with tracking #. Thanks!!

-Matt

RallySport Direct
06-08-2006, 08:44 PM
That sure is purdy. How bout them coilovers peeking in the top of the picture there? Are they prodrive units too? :)

Yes, they are prodrive coilover kits, I'll get working on pricing, applications, etc.


Is this for N/A or turbo models?
Bill

These are Turbo Models Only, Non-N/A



Sent a PM. Having issues with tracking #. Thanks!!
-Matt

PM Sent Back.

jmanrex
06-08-2006, 09:07 PM
can you buy just the filter??


and is this just a tease like other new prodrive products??

Unabomber
06-08-2006, 09:48 PM
What about A/F ratio information? Has there been any testing on a WRX and STi as to wether this will skew the A/F via a wideband unit? Keep in mind we need testing for both as the WRX is more flakey to intakes than the STi. While this is a neat product and it's particularly cool they went the extra step/hassle with CARB certification, it is all for naught for many users if it doesn't work out of the box. Nice kill on the oil-less filter though, the boys at Prodrive have been using their noodle. :)

Bishop
06-09-2006, 04:55 AM
made by AEM no?? ;)

nate49509
06-09-2006, 05:18 AM
This could be a thorn in the SPT intake's side.

WRKX
06-09-2006, 05:58 AM
made by AEM no?? ;)

yeah it looks like an AEM Dryflow filter

remowgn
06-09-2006, 01:48 PM
Looks like the whole thing is made by AEM...

http://www.wrxworld.com/newstuff/aemcai.jpg

But hey, It's got the prodrive name on it (and behind it), the piping color is nice, and the price is comparable to the AEM unit.

nate49509
06-09-2006, 02:03 PM
It doesn't look to be the same filter though.

RaceComp Engineering
06-09-2006, 02:24 PM
Nick I am jealous(lol), while we got to release the rack bushings yooou get to release the intake !! :furious: :lol: :D .

Nice stuff man.

Of course I am joking.

Rally Sport Direct are the koolest guys !! Nick, Ben, etc.

Myles, Kelly, Drew, and Dan(the man).

RCE.

Hank3
06-09-2006, 02:36 PM
This will be a must-purchase for me once we find out if it'll mess up the A/F readings from the MAF sensor

<--- always on the lookout for more Prodrive Bling :D :banana:

Bishop
06-09-2006, 03:03 PM
yeah the piping does look bling bling.

Hank3
06-09-2006, 03:12 PM
No - then that way there will be one less owner making it popular :lol:

ShaggyGT
06-09-2006, 05:16 PM
Yep, Hank you were the first person I thought of when I saw it. :lol:


The guys at Rallysport are awesome!!!! I will be ordering many more parts from them.

-Matt

intpostman23
06-09-2006, 05:55 PM
Look like a good product...

When is it availble for purchase?
I'm assuming this will work with a FMIC?
Any claims as far as horsepower gains?
As mentioned above... did u get ne wideband charts on this?

get back to me via pm.....thanks

hondaslayer
06-09-2006, 05:57 PM
This could be a thorn in the SPT intake's side.

Doubtful being that the SPT intake is about half the price and warranty friendly.

But, Prodrive = pimp.

culturedetox
06-09-2006, 07:09 PM
more info on the prodrive coilovers :)

Angry Toaster
06-09-2006, 08:55 PM
Mfg'd by HKS to Prodrive's specs. JDM smooth road springrates 12F/8R (GD), but the ride quality was only slightly more harsh than my previous Prodrive bilstein spring/strut combo. We were very impressed with the outstanding ride quality of these coilovers. (they track extremely well too)

(sorry for the hijack, Nick. My 2 cents as the only person running these coilovers in the US)

Please send all inquiries to Nick at RallySport Direct.
more info on the prodrive coilovers :)

Angry Toaster
06-09-2006, 08:57 PM
Take a look where the MAF adapter is located on both kits. :) Prodrive brains in full effect with their CAI kit.
Looks like the whole thing is made by AEM...

http://www.wrxworld.com/newstuff/aemcai.jpg

But hey, It's got the prodrive name on it (and behind it), the piping color is nice, and the price is comparable to the AEM unit.

Bishop
06-09-2006, 10:43 PM
Take a look where the MAF adapter is located on both kits. :) Prodrive brains in full effect with their CAI kit.

the prodrive cai was the last project our mutual friend worked on. ;)

hyp36rmax
06-09-2006, 11:33 PM
can this be used as a ram air by chance?

UndertoW101
06-10-2006, 02:41 AM
Looks very nice....i would also like to know about the all important A/F ratio info

Angry Toaster
06-10-2006, 06:33 AM
Haha... I know for a fact he wasn't the brains behind it's beauty.
the prodrive cai was the last project our mutual friend worked on. ;)

remowgn
06-10-2006, 07:50 PM
Take a look where the MAF adapter is located on both kits. :) Prodrive brains in full effect with their CAI kit.

Oh jesus... I can only hope the pipe goes with that end connected to the other pipe, instead of right on to the filter. Turbulence anybody?

Bishop
06-10-2006, 07:56 PM
Oh jesus... I can only hope the pipe goes with that end connected to the other pipe, instead of right on to the filter. Turbulence anybody?

:huh:

Count
06-11-2006, 12:01 AM
Will this be compatible with ppp3?

jmonty
06-11-2006, 01:14 AM
I have the same question?? I have an 02 WRX with the PPP3 on it, so will this work with those mods? I was told by Prodive to not do a CAI???

Longitude
06-11-2006, 02:38 AM
Are these also for 05+ Legacy GT?

EnterTheDragon
06-11-2006, 03:56 AM
damn, now I have to wait to see how this and the SPT intake work on the wrx....

Bishop
06-11-2006, 04:40 AM
i wouldn't mind gettin one. only if i can get it at the same price i got the aem one for though.

o2sys
06-11-2006, 03:38 PM
cool~~ now release the active suspensions and the lip for 04-05!

St0k3d
06-11-2006, 03:42 PM
I have the same question?? I have an 02 WRX with the PPP3 on it, so will this work with those mods? I was told by Prodive to not do a CAI???

thats because they wouldnt be making any money off somone elses intake lol

RallySport Direct
06-12-2006, 05:34 PM
We are still waiting for information regarding A/F ratio information, Pricing, Power, Fitting etc... We will let you know as soon as we find out!!


You "should" be able to buy replacement parts like filters, piping etc, But we are still waiting to hear from Prodrive. But if you need a replacement fliter asap we can get you a K&N fliter or any other filter. Just contact us if you need a fliter. Thanks!
Please let us know if you have any other question!! 801-619-1779
Thanks
Kwin.

m1bbb
06-14-2006, 03:42 PM
Any pic of the intake installed ??

Thanks :lol:

jmanrex
06-14-2006, 04:22 PM
wrong link posted--my bad people

Bishop
06-14-2006, 04:34 PM
here is a whole thread (http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?p=14146158#post14146158)

is it me or is that link for the spt intake? :huh:

jmanrex
06-14-2006, 05:30 PM
is it me or is that link for the spt intake? :huh:


yeah my bad--i didn't fully read which thread i was in

UndertoW101
06-20-2006, 01:58 AM
Pm if you can when it's out...i want one...

Ps. i'll test fit for an o6 wrx ;)

Thumper23
06-27-2006, 02:41 PM
Oh very nice, paying attention now.

Roo
06-28-2006, 01:49 AM
Installed quite nicely on an '04 Forester XT, if anyone cares.

QuickSilverSTi
06-28-2006, 07:17 PM
Pics installed?

Thumper23
06-29-2006, 02:45 AM
Installed quite nicely on an '04 Forester XT, if anyone cares.

Where you get it already?

WxMan
06-29-2006, 01:45 PM
....................

RallySport Direct
06-29-2006, 07:52 PM
We are still waiting for prodrive to let us know that these intakes have been fully tested before we start selling them. We have had them available for some time, but we are waiting for them to give us the green light, we don't want to have any customers have any issues with the intake before we stand behind it and let you guys know that we feel comfortable about them being installed on your veichle.

Nick
RallySport Direct

Angry Toaster
06-29-2006, 08:03 PM
Hey WxMan, it's not very nice to link to another vendors FS thread from a different vendors thread.

The Phenx
06-30-2006, 04:16 PM
estimated date?

The Phenx
06-30-2006, 04:19 PM
Is Dan and Horacio still the guys at Prodrive USA, I heard england broke with everything over here....???

And please post when you get info as to wether it will mesh nicely with the stage 3...

RUrunning
07-06-2006, 05:04 AM
i heart hucka... prodrive

SBS Sniper
07-11-2006, 06:15 PM
Any news from Prodrive? :confused:

Thumper23
07-11-2006, 10:51 PM
I want to see a review of this on someone's car first.

SBS Sniper
07-12-2006, 02:09 PM
Ive just bought one from the states had it shipped to the UK, so will fit shortly and see what the results are:devil:

RUrunning
07-12-2006, 02:38 PM
Ive just bought one from the states had it shipped to the UK, so will fit shortly and see what the results are:devil:
ah, the day has come where people in the uk are ordering parts from prodrive-usa

SBS Sniper
07-12-2006, 02:55 PM
ah, the day has come where people in the uk are ordering parts from prodrive-usa
http://images.nasioc.com/forums/images/statusicon/user_online.gif http://images.nasioc.com/forums/images/buttons/report.gif (http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/report.php?p=14480394)



It was browsing this site that got me intrested;) Went on ebay and low and behold the kit was up for sale, so thought I would try it.

Currenty running the Zero/sports Induction kit

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v335/Bufferdude/STI%20Mods/InductionKit006.jpg

RallySport Direct
07-12-2006, 05:13 PM
Right now we are waiting for Prodrive to release their tests that they have preformed with this intake. Should be up shortly guys. :)
Thanks
Rick

SBS Sniper
07-13-2006, 02:55 PM
Thanks for that Rick;)

SBS Sniper
07-14-2006, 06:25 PM
Got the beast today (Friday) so will be fitting it this weekend, will post phots of the fitting and results of the first drive.

Ive booked the car in for a re-map of the ECU but will give it a good run as standard to see if there is is a det problem etc ;) Have a knocklink sensor fitted so should have enough warning if there is a problem to back off:o

Keep you updated

Regards

The Sniper :devil:

RallySport Direct
07-14-2006, 06:28 PM
Cool im excited to see the results! :)
Rick

UndertoW101
07-18-2006, 05:45 AM
Can't wait to see the pics and review :)

erich
07-18-2006, 02:47 PM
subscribed! must have prodrive!

RUrunning
07-20-2006, 05:02 AM
Got the beast today (Friday) so will be fitting it this weekend, will post phots of the fitting and results of the first drive.

Ive booked the car in for a re-map of the ECU but will give it a good run as standard to see if there is is a det problem etc ;) Have a knocklink sensor fitted so should have enough warning if there is a problem to back off:o

Keep you updated

Regards

The Sniper :devil:
hey, where you at?

SBS Sniper
07-22-2006, 04:09 AM
Sorry for the delay on posting up the photos guys, in the military and have been a bit busy.:devil:


On leave now so have time to do a step by step photo shoot of the fitting etc:banana:

EBWRC#1
07-22-2006, 04:18 AM
I want it!

SBS Sniper
07-23-2006, 03:40 PM
Right Gents and Ladies of the Scooby Fraternity,:devil:

I will start the transformation from Zero/sports Iduction kit tomorrow to the Prodrive cold air Kit

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v335/Bufferdude/STI%20Mods/inductionkit007.jpg

RUrunning
07-23-2006, 07:10 PM
Right Gents and Ladies of the Scooby Fraternity,:devil:

I will start the transformation from Zero/sports Iduction kit tomorrow to the Prodrive cold air Kit

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v335/Bufferdude/STI%20Mods/inductionkit007.jpg
sieze the day man!!! do it now!

SoloSTI
07-23-2006, 10:20 PM
I have been using a K&N short ram and I hate the oil in the filter it drips into the garage floor and I read it would or already has contaminated my MAF and I can't clean it.

How much is the Prodrive CAI and where do I place my order? Can you ship via USPS Priority Mail to Guam USA 96921???

Thanks

RUrunning
07-23-2006, 10:57 PM
I have been using a K&N short ram and I hate the oil in the filter it drips into the garage floor and I read it would or already has contaminated my MAF and I can't clean it.

How much is the Prodrive CAI and where do I place my order? Can you ship via USPS Priority Mail to Guam USA 96921???

Thanks
aside from your intake sucking, you can VERY EASILY clean your maf. carb or brake cleaner, or even plain old rubbing alcohol in a plastic bag will do it.

The Phenx
07-24-2006, 11:41 AM
And if your dripping filter oil all over your garage floor, you doing something very very very wrong...read their directions... lightly and evenly spray oil to acheive a uniform red color (from memory so dont quote me)

SoloSTI
07-25-2006, 03:49 AM
aside from your intake sucking, you can VERY EASILY clean your maf. carb or brake cleaner, or even plain old rubbing alcohol in a plastic bag will do it.

How do I do this?

SBS Sniper
07-25-2006, 06:42 PM
Fitted Guys and Girls :devil: :devil:


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v335/Bufferdude/Cold%20Air%20Intake/ColdAirIntake010.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v335/Bufferdude/Cold%20Air%20Intake/ColdAirIntake012.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v335/Bufferdude/Cold%20Air%20Intake/ColdAirIntake015.jpg


One word sums this bit of kit " Awsome" :devil: :devil:

SBS Sniper
07-25-2006, 06:45 PM
Picture of the inner wing


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v335/Bufferdude/Cold%20Air%20Intake/ColdAirIntake006.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v335/Bufferdude/Cold%20Air%20Intake/ColdAirIntake005.jpg

SoloSTI
07-25-2006, 07:36 PM
where did you buy it and how much?

drees
07-25-2006, 08:14 PM
Looks great. I like how straight the intake pipe is before the MAF, should provide some fairly consistent MAF readings. How hard is it to get at the filter to clean/replace/whatever?

RUrunning
07-25-2006, 11:13 PM
dangit... that's like an F-- for brake ducts

RUrunning
07-25-2006, 11:16 PM
How do I do this?
two screws... undo 'em, wiggle the maf out, hold it over a trashcan, spray it w/ some $3-5 brake/carbeurator/electical parts cleaner, let COMPLETELY airdry, and reinstall. other method is w/ the purest (highest percentage) rubbing alcohol you can find: fill a plastic baggy part-way, unclip the maf, put it in, swish around, and let COMPLETELY airdry before reinstalling.

the thing you're trying to clean (and not damage) is that brownish orb. no need to directly contact it. GENTEL agitation with a qtip is okayif it's visibly still dirty, but proceed at your own caution.

SoloSTI
07-26-2006, 09:28 AM
thanks I'll try it.

pghiocel
08-01-2006, 05:18 AM
So is this available yet?

RUrunning
08-01-2006, 08:31 AM
So is this available yet?
on ebay

ride5000
08-01-2006, 10:15 AM
aside from your intake sucking

don't they all suck?

;)

the thing you're trying to clean (and not damage) is that brownish orb. no need to directly contact it. GENTEL agitation with a qtip is okayif it's visibly still dirty, but proceed at your own caution.

actually, that "brownish orb" is the IAT thermistor.

the maf sensor wires are up inside the plastic housing. do NOT touch those wires with anything non-liquid.

RUrunning
08-01-2006, 05:22 PM
actually, that "brownish orb" is the IAT thermistor.

the maf sensor wires are up inside the plastic housing. do NOT touch those wires with anything non-liquid.
well there you go. brakleen it is

RallySport Direct
08-27-2006, 03:39 AM
http://www.rallysportdirect.com/shop/prodrive-wrxsti-cold-air-intake-p-2711.html

We finally got the go ahead and testing on the product, we have our first batch landing in the next few days. Please be sure to let us know if you have any other questions.

Nick
RallySport Direct
801 619 1779

subarutiger
08-30-2006, 06:32 AM
I should be the first to install this new product from Prodrive in Singapore in my 05 stock WRX. Yes it is pathetically stock.

Not going to bother to put down the 'nice' description by the manufacturer about how its made, what its coated of, etc.

Let me get down to the important stuff. I did not have a dyno test but decided beforehand to use at least two indicators to measure the effectiveness of this product.

1) Air intake temperature. My Psi3 ECU Data Monitor installed recently allows me to view this reading. I have been monitoring my intake temperature for at least one week and it is usually a few degrees higher than the 'outside temperature' reading on our instrumental panel at cruising. On some hot days, the difference is much more. Theoretically, the intake temperature should definitely be greater than or equal to outside temperature since air flowing in the engine bay should get heated up. Ideally, the Prodrive CAI will reduce the 'markup' in temperature.

2) Butt dyno. Not accurate, subjective but better than nothing?

Results.

1) Intake temperature monitoring. Traveled at 5 plus pm after leaving the workshop. Outside temperature reading was 32 degrees celsius. Once the car hits cruising, the intake temperature is consistently 33-35 degrees celsius, which means just 1-3 degrees higher than outside temperature. I can affirm that I have never seen such low difference on a consistent basis in the last week that I was monitoring before the installation. Will need to monitor a few more days at various times to have a better sense if the 'markup' in air temperature is reduced at different times of the day/different outside temperature.

2) Butt dyno. The moment I hit a longer road, I start to accelerate more and could immediately feel a sharper response. The car seems to pull slightly stronger. Whether it start to boost earlier, I can't really tell but can feel that its more powerful than before. It was enjoyable boosting a few times (within the speed limit I must add). :) Oh ya, there is a gushing suction sound everytime I accelelerate/boost. It is really loud and addictive. I think the sound operates in a similar fashion as blow-off valve, when i let off the accelerator, the gushing sound disappears and is replaced by a 'reduction in pressure' type of sound, not as shrill as the BOV release sound that sometimes I hear on other turbo cars, but its really quite cute. I like the gushing sound more than the release. Lag wise, can't really feel increased lag, i think the gushing sound makes me a bit light headed?

3) Guess what, this was not planned beforehand but I suddenly thot of reading the peak boost off my Psi3 ECU Data Monitor which reads calculated boost from my ECU. Note that this boost reading is not from boost sensor planted in the engine bay but is read off from the ECU which technically does not sense boost but calculates boost based on other parameters. Anyway as background info usually if my car is healthy, I will be able to hit 0.99 bar. Occasionally 1.00 bar and once 1.01 bar. Guess what, I hit 1.02 bar just now. :) Doesn't sound like big deal but at least I can affirm that this CAI allows me to at least maintain my boost and even improve it slightly.

Future plans.

1) I plan to put on fog light covers soon, more for the looks. But I notice that there are gaps after installing fog light covers for air to flow through at the front. This gap should be bigger than the current cap right now. So I expect to see at least some minimal improvement, probably not so much in terms of intake temperature but more like better power from exposure to more air flow. I am sure meshing the fog light area will give best results with this set up but I dun think I will go for that as I am not really a mesh person.

2) Will continue to monitor over various times of day/various outside temperature readings and update brothers.

This is my 1st serious product review on NASIOC and I hope it is informative to brothers.

RallySport Direct
08-30-2006, 09:04 PM
UPDATE!!


Price - 275.99 Shipped

ETA - These will be here any day now

Now Accepting Orders!! :) Woot, Im Excited!

Rick

801.619.1779
Rick@Rallysportdirect.com
AIM: RickatRSD

Jonnyfilmboy
09-02-2006, 01:07 PM
I have JDM fogs. Will this intake work with them?

Bishop
09-02-2006, 11:09 PM
I have JDM fogs. Will this intake work with them?


yes it will

RICEREX
09-03-2006, 02:45 AM
hmm...

gingertooth
09-03-2006, 10:54 AM
will this fit the 05' wagon??

johnnydarkko
09-05-2006, 02:54 PM
I'd love to invest in this, but I've always been afraid of CAI's inducting water on rainy days...
Is this even something I should be worried about at all? :confused:

RUrunning
09-05-2006, 08:43 PM
I'd love to invest in this, but I've always been afraid of CAI's inducting water on rainy days...
Is this even something I should be worried about at all? :confused:

how much standing water do you get over there in reno? just don't charge massive puddles on rainy days and you'll be fine.

only1agam
09-10-2006, 10:03 PM
bump for more reviews

ilara72
09-12-2006, 01:39 PM
UPDATE!!


Price - 275.99 Shipped

ETA - These will be here any day now

Now Accepting Orders!! :) Woot, Im Excited!

Rick

801.619.1779
Rick@Rallysportdirect.com
AIM: RickatRSD

Are these in yet?

RallySport Direct
09-13-2006, 08:39 PM
Prodrive Intakes are in stock and ready to roll!!

Let me know
Thanks
Rick

801.619.1779
Rick@Rallysportdirect.com
AIM: RickatRSD

ilara72
09-14-2006, 01:20 AM
Just placed an order. :D

gingertooth
09-14-2006, 08:37 AM
will this fit an 05' wagon?

Bishop
09-14-2006, 02:08 PM
i don't see why it wouldn't.

gingertooth
09-14-2006, 02:24 PM
front of the wagon is narrower than the sedan. the sedans front fenders flare out. some cai's don't fit the wagon

only1agam
09-23-2006, 03:09 AM
bump for reviews!

revel
10-02-2006, 09:57 AM
front of the wagon is narrower than the sedan. the sedans front fenders flare out. some cai's don't fit the wagon

dont say that. i am wanting this for the 02 wagon......and my 99 GC (its swapped).

silver arrow
10-02-2006, 10:32 AM
Interesting product. Any AFR testing yet?

2002 HKS WRX
10-18-2006, 12:18 PM
http://www.rallysportdirect.com/shop/prodrive-wrxsti-cold-air-intake-p-2711.html

We finally got the go ahead and testing on the product, we have our first batch landing in the next few days. Please be sure to let us know if you have any other questions.

Nick
RallySport Direct
801 619 1779
Almost two months later, let's see some data.

Riight112
10-18-2006, 05:53 PM
Almost two months later, let's see some data.

+1 for AFR data. Also, what is the diameter of the piping as compared to stock? Any more reviews on this?? Thanks!

RallySport Direct
10-18-2006, 09:15 PM
2002 HKS WRX - I was talking to Prodrive about this today, they still have not released Dyno info or any real info for that matter. I have been buggin them about this, and will continue to do so until we can get some data up here.


Riight112 - We have a Prodrive intake on the shelf that I measured, the Internal Diameter of the pipe surounding the MAF is 65mm, so it is the same as most aftermarket intakes.

As soon as we can get some actual data from Prodrive I will post it up here.

Thanks for the interest!
Rick

Bishop
10-18-2006, 09:30 PM
guys. it's the same as the new AEM CAI. find the afr data on the aem and i'm sure it'll be the same.

drees
10-18-2006, 11:53 PM
guys. it's the same as the new AEM CAI. find the afr data on the aem and i'm sure it'll be the same.Judging from the pics I've seen, the AEM and Prodrive look pretty different to me. I'm not sure why you think the Prodrive is the same as the AEM?

Edit: It sure does look like this AEM CAI (http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1075129&highlight=aem+cai).

only1agam
10-19-2006, 02:40 PM
Judging from the pics I've seen, the AEM and Prodrive look pretty different to me. I'm not sure why you think the Prodrive is the same as the AEM?

Edit: It sure does look like this AEM CAI (http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1075129&highlight=aem+cai).

it looks a LOT alike.... someone get some reviews on this piece!:furious:

2002 HKS WRX
10-23-2006, 11:37 AM
2002 HKS WRX - I was talking to Prodrive about this today, they still have not released Dyno info or any real info for that matter. I have been buggin them about this, and will continue to do so until we can get some data up here.


Riight112 - We have a Prodrive intake on the shelf that I measured, the Internal Diameter of the pipe surounding the MAF is 65mm, so it is the same as most aftermarket intakes.

As soon as we can get some actual data from Prodrive I will post it up here.

Thanks for the interest!
Rick
I'd prefer to see some data from someone OTHER than the people who stamp their name on the product. For a $275 product, how about you find someone in Salt Lake who has a stock WRX and someone else who has a stock Sti, and offer them the intake at a reduced price if they'll agree to come to a dyno session? If you can prove this intake is better, you will have more orders than you know what to do with, not to mention the respect of the Subaru community for getting answers without waiting for Prodrive to send you a dyno graph they did on Microsoft Paint during their lunch hour.
If this turns out to be a replica of the AEM, I will unscrew my Prodrive gear shifter and throw it through their office window at 1537-C East McFadden Avenue in Santa Ana California.

2002 HKS WRX
10-23-2006, 12:26 PM
This thing looks like a powdercoated replica of the AEM.

mirosh
11-05-2006, 02:59 AM
i want the prodrive intake but half of the people tell me i need to change my ecu, half say the onboard cpu auto adjusts. I am stock now, can i just bolt on the intake and be good to go or do i have to mod other things first?

RallySport Direct
11-07-2006, 03:42 PM
While it is never a bad idea to run Engine Management, it will not be needed to run a intake on your Subaru.

Please let me know if you have any questions
thanks
Rick

RUrunning
11-07-2006, 06:28 PM
i want the prodrive intake but half of the people tell me i need to change my ecu, half say the onboard cpu auto adjusts. I am stock now, can i just bolt on the intake and be good to go or do i have to mod other things first?

well, let's forget about what you "need" to do and look at this from another perspective: other than extra noise, you will gain diddily-crap from an intake (or any other power mod, for that matter) without being tuned for it. mods don't just magically make power on our cars, they just increase the POTENTIAL to make power

snwman
11-07-2006, 09:35 PM
hmm sure looks like a AEM product from the dry flow air filter, to the installation instructions it has AEM written all over it.

Crashman287
11-14-2006, 10:55 PM
Maybe AEM is manufacturing the intake FOR Prodrive. Kind of like Bosal manfactures the exhaust for Cobb.

Bishop
11-15-2006, 02:48 AM
Maybe AEM is manufacturing the intake FOR Prodrive. Kind of like Bosal manfactures the exhaust for Cobb.


possibly...

Riight112
11-20-2006, 08:09 PM
Bump for AFR data.

scoobyimpreza
11-22-2006, 12:11 AM
BUmp for fitment on a 257 swapped GC impreza.

R4ND0M_AX3
12-05-2006, 01:41 PM
You guys are not very resourceful.
Here is the CARB EO info


EO: D-600
EO Date: 1/11/2006
Manufacturer Name: Prodrive, Inc.
Device: Cold Air Intake System
Device Type: Air Filter / Intake Modification

21-476
2002-2005 model-year Subaru Impreza WRX 2.0 liter turbocharged

21-476
2004-2005 model-year Subaru Impreza WRX STi 2.5 liter turbocharged

21-476
2004-2005 model-year Subaru Forester XT 2.5 liter turbocharged

21-476
2005 model-year Saab 9-2X 2.0 liter turbocharged


Details:
http://arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermkt/devices/eo/D-600.pdf
Says here that is is tested by AEM.


^^^^^^^^Looks like it's not exempted on 2006 + models.

only1agam
12-06-2006, 03:49 PM
You guys are not very resourceful.
Here is the CARB EO info


EO: D-600
EO Date: 1/11/2006
Manufacturer Name: Prodrive, Inc.
Device: Cold Air Intake System
Device Type: Air Filter / Intake Modification

21-476
2002-2005 model-year Subaru Impreza WRX 2.0 liter turbocharged

21-476
2004-2005 model-year Subaru Impreza WRX STi 2.5 liter turbocharged

21-476
2004-2005 model-year Subaru Forester XT 2.5 liter turbocharged

21-476
2005 model-year Saab 9-2X 2.0 liter turbocharged


Details:
http://arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermkt/devices/eo/D-600.pdf
Says here that is is tested by AEM.


^^^^^^^^Looks like it's not exempted on 2006 + models.


bump! what the hell does all that mean?^ what is 21-476 and all? i dont get it :confused:

the only thing that i really understood after reading the document was this following line:

The executive order is valid provided the installation instructions for the Cold Air Intake System do not recommend tuning to specifications different from those of the vehicle manufacturer

so after reading that^ i think it is safe to run this CAI without a tune, provided that it is safe/CARB certified.. if you want MORE performance get a tune for it (this is what i THINK)

R4ND0M_AX3
12-07-2006, 08:20 PM
bump! what the hell does all that mean?^ what is 21-476 and all? i dont get it :confused:

the only thing that i really understood after reading the document was this following line:



so after reading that^ i think it is safe to run this CAI without a tune, provided that it is safe/CARB certified.. if you want MORE performance get a tune for it (this is what i THINK)

21-476 is the part number that is has the CARB exemption. The list of vehicles are the ones that qualify for the exemption. So according to that the prodrive CAI made and tested by AEM is not CARB exempt for 06 and 07 vehicels yet.

Mr. Sadface
12-10-2006, 08:32 PM
Do we know if it fits the wagon yet??

Bishop
12-11-2006, 11:19 AM
Do we know if it fits the wagon yet??


it will. ;)

Riight112
12-12-2006, 05:59 PM
Rick, any word on the AFR? Any news on when those coilovers will be released? Specs on them?? Thanks.

only1agam
12-12-2006, 10:52 PM
how come there aren't any real reviews for this **** thing already geese... no info from prodrive yet either!? what the heck?

SubieRon
12-13-2006, 01:55 PM
Your questions will never be answered. Forget that mess and just go out and get hogged
http://www.framairhog.com/



:D

RallySport Direct
12-13-2006, 03:29 PM
Hello,

No, we still do not have any data supporting Horsepower number or and A/F data. I will make a post as soon as we have access to this information. I hope we can get something up here soon.
Thanks again
Rick

only1agam
12-13-2006, 04:06 PM
grr... i don't get how prodrive can release a CAI without any data :confused:

Swisha Blast
12-13-2006, 05:17 PM
grr... i don't get how prodrive can release a CAI without any data :confused:

Just asked my buddy that works at AEM in their R&D department. He confirmed that the Prodrive intake is in fact made 100% by AEM. As far as Prodrive not releasing data they already have data under the AEM P/N#

SP Engineering
12-13-2006, 07:48 PM
I had personally spoken with Prodrive in regards to their Intake System and this is what I concluded afterward. They did indeed come up with this system congruently with AEM and AEM did the testing on the product. However, the end product is still perfected by the Prodrive Team and the CARB number is also under Prodrive. This item was apart of a line in special projects that the team at Prodrive was working on and soon after decided to release it to the public. This sudden decision to release this product is probably why there isn't much information to be provided to the community. I agree that they should provide more information in regards to the product but on the other hand, this was a special announcement made by a vendor not an announcement made by Prodrive themselves. Also, no orders were taken at this time and no monetary value was held against any of the customer's against their wills. If this was done so, then I could see how there could be a problem. I have seen this product in person myself and find it to be an exceptional piece of work, however I do agree with the community that more information should be released in regards to this item so that it could help the public decide on purchasing the product once it is officially released.

Regards,
Mark

Riight112
01-13-2007, 03:09 PM
Bump. Any word on this yet? ETA??

only1agam
01-18-2007, 03:31 PM
bump for any chance of information coming out on this ever

v1c10usv
01-18-2007, 07:03 PM
nice cai

Hank3
04-06-2007, 02:19 AM
Revival of an old thread. I'm assuming there's still no solid info from Prodrive? :confused:

Tims Muffler
04-06-2007, 08:09 AM
Veryyy nice how much?

Tims Muffler
04-06-2007, 08:09 AM
BuMp FoR YoU

only1agam
04-10-2007, 11:29 PM
bump for a hope that someone from prodrive will one day see this thread and give us REAL benefits of the intake noted "from Prodrive"

Hank3
04-12-2007, 11:37 AM
Mine will be delivered today (thanks to Armin @ World One) along with my rear diff protector. I'm running a custom tune for my AP so we'll see if it messes anything up. If it does, it'll come off and until I can get another PROtune done. Maybe it'll give me a few more HP :D

RallySport Direct
04-27-2007, 02:23 PM
These are now IN STOCK!

WRXLTD
04-28-2007, 10:59 AM
These are now IN STOCK!

Your web site states "02-06 WRX/STi"...these can go on the 07's too, right?

What are the metal tubes made out of? What are they coated with?

RallySport Direct
04-30-2007, 04:25 PM
Its a Paper Filter with a Aluminum piping. The coating is powder coating.

Thanks
Kirill
RallySportDirect.com

Siper2
05-01-2007, 08:58 AM
These things are dead sexy.

I'll be getting one after my engine swap. Yessir, youbetcha. :D

Hopefully it'll fit...

MD04WRX's car has one.

http://www.tops3cr3t.com/ts/locations/napsubaru/images/dsc_2140.jpg

RallySport Direct
05-01-2007, 04:17 PM
As long as the fender hole is in the same location on the GD as it is on a GC it should fit.

Thanks
Kirill
RallySportDirect.com

Siper2
05-01-2007, 04:37 PM
Not sure.

But considering people do a few ;) engine swaps from WRXs and STIs, yeah I'm betting it's good.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/Siper2/Subaru%20Impreza/Engineshiftknobscratches001.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/Siper2/Subaru%20Impreza/beach.jpg

Best I can do, picture wise. :)

RallySport Direct
05-01-2007, 04:39 PM
To be honest I am not 100% sure if the hole on the GC is in the same location and the same size. Ill look on my GC later on tonight and let you know.

Thanks
Kirill
RallySportDirect.com

amukaoen
05-01-2007, 04:53 PM
In case you're all still wondering about MAF readings..

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1186617

Our testing shows a less than 9% skew to the MAF signal.

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(714).541.0704
Dan@Prodrive.com
AIM: DAnton1316

jac04
05-08-2007, 08:54 PM
...so we'll see if it messes anything up.

So, did it? I'm running a PPP3 and considering getting the Prodrive intake. I e-mailed Dan at Prodrive a while back and he said it was compatible with the PPP3, but he could not provide any type of proof or tell me if it actually provided any power gains.
I'm curious to find out what this intake actually does, if anything.

jmonty
05-21-2007, 12:09 PM
I also have the PPP3 was wanted to add this to my car. Has it pulled a CEL?

only1agam
05-21-2007, 02:53 PM
bump for info for the compatibility with PP3 and possibly the Cobb Stage II (even though cobb doesn't recommend another intake at stage II than stock :D)

jaydow11
05-23-2007, 07:33 PM
bump for info for the compatibility with PP3 and possibly the Cobb Stage II (even though cobb doesn't recommend another intake at stage II than stock :D)

I have been thinking about getting the Prodrive CAI as well... However, if its just a re-branded AEM whats the point in paying for the name?

I also am running Cobb Stage 2 and wondering if its worth getting a CAI??

Jay

jaydow11
05-30-2007, 03:34 PM
Anyone??

eXstasy
05-30-2007, 04:24 PM
Anyone??

If you want to know the benefits of a CAI over something else, say running the stock box, I suggest you perform a search. Your question is OT for this thread AND has been beaten to death so I'd be surprised if anyone answered you here.

Siper2
05-30-2007, 09:26 PM
To be honest I am not 100% sure if the hole on the GC is in the same location and the same size. Ill look on my GC later on tonight and let you know.

Thanks
Kirill
RallySportDirect.com

Any luck? :)


jaydow,
Technically, all/most of Prodrive's products are rebadged. Their WR strut/spring suspension for the GC Impreza is Bilstein, their coilovers are HKS.
Their wheels are OZ and Volk.

They're an engineering firm, first and foremost. Not a product manufacturer.

What are you paying for? Guaranteed OE fitment, product support (from the company who made Subaru's race team what it is, oh and just bought Aston Martin by the way...), and yeah I suppose a bit of bling. :cool:

Whether that's worth it to you or not, is your choice. A good way to save money is always to buy used.

RallySport Direct
05-31-2007, 01:37 PM
Looking at the Hole on the GC, it is there. However I think it is smaller in size compared to the GD chassis.

Thanks
Kirill
RallySportDirect.com
801-748-4910 ext 1006

Skeete
05-31-2007, 02:16 PM
I have been thinking about getting the Prodrive CAI as well... However, if its just a re-branded AEM whats the point in paying for the name?

I also am running Cobb Stage 2 and wondering if its worth getting a CAI??

Jay

My review is here: http://www.iwsti.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84290
I'm going to get tuned next week

AMS testing with it here (the AEM version): http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1269172

Siper2
05-31-2007, 07:03 PM
Looking at the Hole on the GC, it is there. However I think it is smaller in size compared to the GD chassis.

Thanks
Kirill
RallySportDirect.com
801-748-4910 ext 1006

Yeah, well.....

http://www.buyamower.co.uk/images/Lrg/husq_136.jpg

:lol:

RallySport Direct
06-01-2007, 12:25 PM
Thats what I think as well. :D

When putting a FMIC that was for a GD on a GC chassis, it required the a little saw love in that location due to the piping size.

Kirill
RallySportDirect.com

RallySport Direct
06-05-2007, 12:21 PM
To the Top

Skeete
06-11-2007, 11:59 AM
My Cobb stage 2 protune with it:

Base run of 316 HP & 327 FtLb @ 18 psi (compared with the final tune)
Red=Final Tune....Blue=Base Run
http://skeeter.50webs.net/Dyno_base_00.jpg

323 HP & 345 FtLb @ 19.5psi
http://skeeter.50webs.net/Dyno_00.jpg

Final tune vs. Base run A/F and psi:
Red=Final Run....Blue=Base
http://skeeter.50webs.net/Dyno_af_00.jpg

It was tuned by Jorge using 93

RallySport Direct
06-11-2007, 01:58 PM
If you guys are interested. I do have these intakes on the shelf :)

Kirill
RallySportDirect.com
801-748-4910 ext 1006

only1agam
06-18-2007, 07:01 PM
My Cobb stage 2 protune with it:

Base run of 316 HP & 327 FtLb @ 18 psi (compared with the final tune)
Red=Final Tune....Blue=Base Run
http://skeeter.50webs.net/Dyno_base_00.jpg

323 HP & 345 FtLb @ 19.5psi
http://skeeter.50webs.net/Dyno_00.jpg

Final tune vs. Base run A/F and psi:
Red=Final Run....Blue=Base
http://skeeter.50webs.net/Dyno_af_00.jpg

It was tuned by Jorge using 93

wOw it was tuned to 18 ft/lbs more wOw with the intake:alien: