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View Full Version : Custom AccessPort Tuning w/ Agile Auto
Agile Auto 06-17-2006, 05:20 PM For the past 3 years Agile Automotive, has been tuning various kinds of turboed vehicles using all different forms of engine management. For Subarus, we have been extremely pleased with Cobb's Accessport--it's affordable and an excellent tuning tool for a huge range of setups (from stage 1 all the way up to huge custom turbo setups). Best of all it allows us to optimize the cars fuel, boost and, ignition timing while still retaining the full range of safeties that Subaru designed into the stock ECU. The AcessPort unlocks the stock ECU and allows us to use it as a powerful stand-alone engine computer. For the same amount of money, there's no way to beat the flexibility and function that the Accessport Protune provides. We received the Protuner software as soon as it was released, in June 2005. In the past year we have successfully Protuned around 300 cars. Customers have traveled to us from all over the East Coast for Protuning and some have come back for 3 or 4 tune updates as they added mods throughout the year.
If you're looking to extract more power with your current mods or looking to get tuned for your latest mods, Agile can custom tune your car using the Cobb AccessPort to optimize fuel, boost, and timing. You can expect to make significant and reliable gains over the Cobb maps without having to install any extra parts. Also, if you have mods that Cobb doesn't have a map for, we can tune you a map to optimize your car's performance with them. Whether your latest mod was a new intake or a custom GT35R, Agile will tune your car to make safe, reliable power. We tune on our own in-house Dynapack chassis dyno and we top it all off with a road test and tune to make sure all your settings are perfect.
We Protune Tuesday thru Saturday. The cost of the custom tune with road test is $500 and takes about 3 hours from start to finish (more aggressive setups, i.e. GT35R or larger, will take additional tuning time and be more expensive). All Protunes come with lifetime troubleshooting for any tuning related issues, if any arise, and we keep your maps on file in case your AP is stolen or damaged. After your first Protune, update tunes are priced by the hour and can usually be finished in a single hour of dyno tuning ($250/hour).
Also, if you would like a high-octane race map to go with your street map, we are offering discounts on high-octane tuning with the purchase of a pump gas Protune through Labor Day. With the High-Octane Special you get a second map custom tuned for high-octane fuel for only $180 (does not include the price of fuel). We can supply VP fuels, or you can bring your own high-octane gas. To schedule a Protune give us a call at 410-628-9099.
Typical numbers are shown below:
WRX w/ Cobb Stage 2 and Agile Protune
http://www.agileauto.com/images/fredhptq.gif
Sti w/ Cobb Stage 2 and Agile Protune
http://www.agileauto.com/images/protunehptq.gif
Agile Stage 3 and Agile Protune
http://www.spryracing.com/images/cars/subaru/2004STi/20060326AgileBSPTuning/93Octane.jpg
Agile GT35R Side-Mount Kit and Agile High-Octane Protune
http://www.agileauto.com/images/profiles/bobbysti/bobbydyno.gif
More graphs to follow.
Seeing StaRS 06-18-2006, 05:14 AM Agile FTW
that is all
joe
trustSTI 06-18-2006, 11:36 AM Agile FTW
that is all
joe
Fo' real
-Joe
jimtweet 06-19-2006, 08:50 AM Fo' real
-Joe
+3 :banana:
Force[FED] 06-19-2006, 10:54 AM I have been exchanging emails with Hill for about 6 months, and am finally scheduled to get my stage2 2006 STi protuned this Friday (the 23rd). I am so anxious to see what kind of magic they can do for my car...hoping I walk out with at least 310whp/340wtq and a much fatter powerband overall...anything over that seems like icing on the cake. From all the other results I saw from these guys, that should be easily attainable. My only worry is that they are also doing some serious work on another car that same day that will also need dyno time, so I hope my car gets it's fair shake on the dyno for tuning before the other car jumps on the dyno. But I have no reason to think it won't, Hill has been super helpful since I first emailed him last December, they seem like a great bunch.
Also getting the Cobb Stage2 suspension upgrade (springs and swaybars), minus the rear strut tower brace. Friday can't come soon enough :)
I will post up the results of the protune.
Kev
Paintballguy 06-23-2006, 08:32 PM The guys up at Agile installed all my goodies (20g, FMIC, Injectors, Fuel pump, etc) and Hill tuned my car. Everything was top notch and excellent quality; I highly recommend Agile to anyone.
Agile Auto 06-24-2006, 12:55 PM This is Paintballguy's chart. His mods are in the post above. The car ran like a champ and was a pleasure to tune.
http://www.agileauto.com/images/bobbyhptq.gif
This chart is for Force{FED}'s car. He has a Stg 2 with K&NN intake, step colder plugs, and GM boost solenoid. Jeremy tuned this one to have a butter smooth torque curve.
http://www.agileauto.com/images/kevinhptq.gif
-Hill
www.agileauto.com
410-628-9099
WRX11 06-24-2006, 02:49 PM Hill,
Jeremy's tune IS smooth. I am impressed with all of Agile's tunes. Hopefully I'll be going to stage two soon. :D
I am very happy with the customer service Agile has demostrated with my experience and would recommend anyone to go to them for services and tuning. I am sure their customers and skills speak for themselves. :disco:
Hopefully soon, you'll have another AP sale that I recommended. :D
Force[FED] 06-25-2006, 02:45 AM Jeremy did an amazing job tuning my car (above). He listened to exactly what I wanted (nice smooth, broad powerband), and that's what I got. He even kept saying he could get some more "peak" numbers if I was willing to give up the broad powerband, but it's not what I wanted.
I didn't get to talk to Hill and those other guys at all (though Hill answered all of my emails the last 6 months or so very promptly, and with great advice), but I was trying not to bother them since they were very busy with a big install on another car. I know how annoying it can be trying to get work done with someone ranting in your ear the whole time. I could have chatted Jeremy's ear off while he was tuning my car, but I did my best to not harrass him and let him work his magic.
Agile is a great place...I will definitely be using them in the future!
Kev
www.forcefed4.com
ButtDyno 06-26-2006, 12:00 PM *ignore. there they are!
TurbojonLS 06-26-2006, 12:52 PM ']...He even kept saying he could get some more "peak" numbers if I was willing to give up the broad powerband, but it's not what I wanted...
Can you explain this? I'm no tuning god, but I don't see how its possible to accomplish this only by manipulating boost, timing, and fuel. Increasing boost targets in certain parts of the map won't make the power lower in other parts. Increasing timing will make more power, but it won't make the car lose power elsewhere. Adjusting fuel to make more power at certain points won't lower power anywhere else. Fuel & Timing can be adjusted to alter spool, but this won't change peak power. Is there something I'm missing?
Agile Auto 06-28-2006, 05:59 PM Jon,
A tuner can make the car have a peaky torque curve which will make slightly more peak numbers by lowering the boost and timing down low and up high, while raising boost and timing in the midrange. It's really a combination of adding and subtracting boost and timing from different parts of the map. Once these changes have been made the car will run less boost and timing until it hits the midrange and then briefly hit high boost and high timing, and then it falls back off. Since the car is running aggressive timing and boost for only a second or more as the engine passes through the midrange it tends not to build as much heat in the cylinders. The reduction in heat caused by lowering the boost and timing down low and up high is what lets us make the midrange more aggressive, making more power (usually at the expense of area under the curve).
-Hill
www.agileauto.com
chibich 06-28-2006, 09:23 PM set my protune date for july 12.
03msp02wrx 06-29-2006, 08:53 AM wouldnt happen to offer an ap/tune package deal would u??
Agile Auto 06-29-2006, 08:59 AM wouldnt happen to offer an ap/tune package deal would u??
Not at this time but that may be coming in a few months.
-Hill
TurbojonLS 06-29-2006, 09:43 AM Jon,
A tuner can make the car have a peaky torque curve which will make slightly more peak numbers by lowering the boost and timing down low and up high, while raising boost and timing in the midrange. It's really a combination of adding and subtracting boost and timing from different parts of the map. Once these changes have been made the car will run less boost and timing until it hits the midrange and then briefly hit high boost and high timing, and then it falls back off. Since the car is running aggressive timing and boost for only a second or more as the engine passes through the midrange it tends not to build as much heat in the cylinders. The reduction in heat caused by lowering the boost and timing down low and up high is what lets us make the midrange more aggressive, making more power (usually at the expense of area under the curve).
-Hill
www.agileauto.com
Really? I've always looked at it from a "if 13psi with x fuel & x timing is safe at 6000 rpm, it will always be safe at 6000 rpm" standpoint. I've found that my EGTs don't increase much in other points of the powerband based on changes I made elsewhere. Have you seen much variation in EGT? Or are you basing this off of water temp? And what do you consider too much heat (of course realizing that "too much" for one engine may be "just right" for another)?
Thanks for letting me get OT a bit & taking the time to answer my questions. I think its good to get an idea of the tuning strategies employed by each shop, as it gives people a good idea of what to expect.
mav1c 06-29-2006, 10:10 AM How much lead time do you need for a tune? Ideally I'd like 3 maps. One for street driving, one 93 Octane track map, and one 100 Octane track map.
This is with:
Maddad Stealth Back w/Scoobysport muffler
SPT Intake
M2 (or maybe some other) TMIC.
Thanks
chibich 07-15-2006, 01:48 PM protune went great on the 12. hill was able to make 390/378 on a 20g on 93 pump. I was wondering if you guys could e-mail me my dyno plot(I'll pm you my e-mail address)
Agile Auto 07-17-2006, 12:39 PM Here is Chibich's chart from his 20g tune @ 22psi.
http://www.agileauto.com/images/justinhptq.gif
This is a Blouch GT30 bolt on @ 24psi that shows some serious promise for those looking to keep the stock turbo location.
http://www.agileauto.com/images/adamhptq2.gif
Jon,
We do see some variation in EGTs based on timing, fuel and boost changes. Sculpting the EGTs for a specific aim can have a huge effect. For instance many tuners will run the engine lean, with less than optimal timing as the car transitions to boost to raise the EGTs and spool the turbo quicker. The highest I would want to see and EGT in a Suby would be 1650F and I wouldn't want to see it that high for long. This would have to be measured at the right cylinder for your engine (#2 on and Ej257 and #3 on the ej205) and be located within a few inches of the exhaust port in the header.
Mav,
We have a 2 to 3 week lead time right now. Weekdays are much easier to book than weekends.
-Hill
www.agileauto.com
(410)628-9099
I got a quick question for you guys since I see this thread is active here.
I've got a long-running problem with my 2002 WRX that, from reading a lot of threads on NASIOC, seems to make me a member of a relatively sizeable club.
I've been getting plenty of seemingly spurious P0457 and P030x CELs since about 40k miles up to where she is now, about 135k miles. I've never had a spot of luck with the dealer or an alternate mechanic fixing the problem. I've actually had my ECU reflashed per a subaru TSB, and when the problem came back I had my ECU sent to SOA where it was reflashed again, and I still get these codes.
I am wondering if you guys have seen WRXs that exhibit these types of symptoms, and if you have had any success making them go away during a tuning session.
Agile Auto 07-17-2006, 07:19 PM I got a quick question for you guys since I see this thread is active here.
I've got a long-running problem with my 2002 WRX that, from reading a lot of threads on NASIOC, seems to make me a member of a relatively sizeable club.
I've been getting plenty of seemingly spurious P0457 and P030x CELs since about 40k miles up to where she is now, about 135k miles. I've never had a spot of luck with the dealer or an alternate mechanic fixing the problem. I've actually had my ECU reflashed per a subaru TSB, and when the problem came back I had my ECU sent to SOA where it was reflashed again, and I still get these codes.
I am wondering if you guys have seen WRXs that exhibit these types of symptoms, and if you have had any success making them go away during a tuning session.
We have seen this problem before on one or two other WRX's. There a couple of things that I can suggest that may help cure the problem or they may do nothing at all if the problem is with the ecu. First you can check the grounds on the car. If that car has lots of resistance in the ground system this will surely be the route of the issue. The only other thing we have had success with is to swap the coilpacks out with new ones. The problem with most of the cars with this issue seems to be with the ECU so all the tinkering may be for nothing. If the misfire is on one cylinder all the time replace the plugs and then the coilpack from that cylinder. Otherwise I would check the ground system and leave it at that.
I hope that helps.
-Hill
www.agileauto.com
aem421 07-18-2006, 02:36 PM I had my car tuned by Hill in June. I got new spark plugs (colder) and a new solenoid. Hill and company did an awesome job. If you want a pro tune, I'd suggest going there. I got 33 more hp and 44 more lbs of torque from the Stage 2 map from Cobb. Hill is the man. Thanks for everything guys.
Here are a few pics with my buddy's cell phone camera. Mine is in the shop getting repaired :(
Oh yeah Hill, since that day I got home and put the car in the garage, the spring broke on my garage door :mad: I haven't been able to even drive the car since the tune. Thankfully it's getting fixed next week. I can't wait to take it out for a nice drive.
Anthony
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Seeing StaRS 07-23-2006, 11:00 PM Nice looking vinyl package...well done.
Agile Auto 08-10-2006, 05:18 PM bumpo
Paintballguy 08-10-2006, 07:00 PM everyone should go to agile
Paintballguy 08-20-2006, 12:19 AM el bump
Distinctive 08-20-2006, 01:51 PM pmed you guys like a month ago about protune.......nothing back...
Agile Auto 08-20-2006, 08:25 PM Distinctive,
Sorry about the over sight. We've been very busy the last few weeks, your pm must have slipped through the cracks. Give us a call at 410-682-9099, email us at sales@agileauto.com or pm us again. We could set something up for you in September.
Regards,
Agile Auto
Capt Crunch 08-20-2006, 08:47 PM do you guys ever plan to tune ecutek? I know it sucks but it's all I've got.
djyuck 08-22-2006, 01:13 AM bumpino... thanks for my tune guys!
Agile Auto 08-23-2006, 02:12 PM We currently have no plans to invest in EcuTek since the Cobb AP is soooo nice. ;)
-Hill
logicalxtremes 09-20-2006, 11:28 PM Cant wait for my tune on oct7 and to meet the Agile crew see ya soon
Louie 09-23-2006, 03:54 PM Hill-
what are typical number for a protune on a wrx with a VF34 upgrade? Of course typical accessories(FP, Pinks, STi TMIC)
WRX Shenanigans 09-23-2006, 04:23 PM I'm gonna be callin you guys up soon to get my 18g tuned. How far in advance should I make the appointment? aka: How booked up are you guys usually?
SirWilliam 09-25-2006, 09:51 AM PM sent.
SirWilliam 09-27-2006, 08:13 AM Another PM sent and will call today or tomorrow.
Seeing StaRS 09-28-2006, 12:22 AM sirwilliam,
you'd be best off calling us. We are running a dial-up connection until we get high speed. Just trying to get online to access parts is a pita. phone is def best way to reach us. 410-877-3003
Joe
SirWilliam 09-28-2006, 06:28 AM sirwilliam,
you'd be best off calling us. We are running a dial-up connection until we get high speed. Just trying to get online to access parts is a pita. phone is def best way to reach us. 410-877-3003
Joe
Yeah, I didn't get a chance yesterday. Will try to today. Should be good to go for the 19th of Oct.
-Will
SirWilliam 09-29-2006, 10:18 AM Called yesterday and reset the appointment for Oct 12th. Sent Hill an email of my mods so I can get temporary base and realtime maps to drive up w/ the 820cc Perrin modified injectors.
SirWilliam 10-04-2006, 07:41 AM ATTENTION: Hill at Agile Auto,
Not to be an ass about this but I have sent an email, PM and called twice...nobody has called or emailed or PM'd me back. I have gotten no response.
I NEED a temporary tune for the 820cc injectors by the end of this week otherwise I CANNOT make the tuning session that is scheduled for the 12th at 2:30PM which is next Thursday.
Please get back to me TODAY. Thank you.
-Will
Seeing StaRS 10-05-2006, 12:55 AM Will,
check your pm's
joe
SirWilliam 10-05-2006, 08:29 AM Will,
check your pm's
joe
Thanks. Replied.
Agile Auto 10-05-2006, 11:22 AM Sorry for the delay. Dail up sucks :furious:.
Maps sent.
-Hill
ww.agileauto.com
SirWilliam 10-05-2006, 01:12 PM Sorry for the delay. Dail up sucks :furious:.
Maps sent.
-Hill
ww.agileauto.com
Thanks. Will be throwing the injectors in the night before the tune.
-Will
Kjott21 10-05-2006, 01:24 PM My tune is this Saturday. I can't wait.
Kjott21 10-08-2006, 01:52 PM I just got my Agile Protune yesterday. It was a long day, but Jeremey did a great job on my tune. Here are the results:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y65/Kjott21/Car%20Pics/DynoSheets1.jpg
The base pull is a lower map for the GM boost solenoid that they installed for me. It was more than I had hoped for. I will definitely go back to them when I need a tune again.
Mods:
Cobb AP
Cobb SF Intake
Perrin UP
Helix DP
Greddy Evo2 CB
IHI VF30
STi Pinks
TurboXS TMIC
Go Fast Bits Stealth FX BOV
Go Fast Bits Power Up Pulleys
GM Boost Solenoid
Thanks to Hill and Jeremey for everything.
SirWilliam 10-08-2006, 08:48 PM I just got my Agile Protune yesterday. It was a long day, but Jeremey did a great job on my tune. Here are the results:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y65/Kjott21/Car%20Pics/DynoSheets1.jpg
The base pull is a lower map for the GM boost solenoid that they installed for me. It was more than I had hoped for. I will definitely go back to them when I need a tune again.
Thanks to Hill and Jeremey for everything.
What are your mods?
Kjott21 10-08-2006, 09:05 PM What are your mods?
I put them in my post for you.
SirWilliam 10-09-2006, 06:07 AM Hmm, so everyone that gets tuned seems to have the GM Boost Solenoid. Do they only tune if you have that solenoid?;) Do I need to get this solenoid prior to my protune this Thurs?
Agile Auto 10-09-2006, 01:10 PM I do recomend the GM solenoid to get the most out of your tune. I have them in stock with the harness for $70. If you would like us to install it just let me know.
-Hill
logicalxtremes 10-14-2006, 05:06 PM +1 Agile great tune ! 322.2 whp 370.6 wt oct 7 Thanks again ill being seeing you guys soon for FPred tune !!!!
SirWilliam 10-16-2006, 05:42 PM Nice meeting everyone. Thanks guys.
Agile Auto 10-18-2006, 02:23 PM Nice meeting everyone. Thanks guys.
Likewise, please let us know if there's anything you need. It's always nice to see people stepping outside the box with a project like a Forester Sti. Keep up the good work.
-Hill
www.agileauto.com
ps Our high speed internet for the new shop will be installed this week so we should return to having a firm presence on the boards as soon as they finish. Again, sorry for any inconveniences.
thebigshow 10-25-2006, 10:19 AM i've been tryin to e-mail the guys at agile, but haven't got a response yet.
ButtDyno 10-25-2006, 10:22 AM i've been tryin to e-mail the guys at agile, but haven't got a response yet.
When in doubt, try calling :)
Like Hill just posted their IT situation isn't 100% yet.
thebigshow 10-25-2006, 10:27 AM oh yeah; i was gonna. just thought i would throw it out here though.
SirWilliam 10-25-2006, 11:03 AM oh yeah; i was gonna. just thought i would throw it out here though.
Yeah, just call Agile. You will usually get Joe on the phone. Real nice guy that will help you out.
410-877-3003
Seeing StaRS 10-25-2006, 12:58 PM Yeah, just call Agile. You will usually get Joe on the phone. Real nice guy that will help you out.
410-877-3003
Thanks for the compliments Will :)
ScoobyDooo 11-10-2006, 03:01 PM Agile is the ****!!!
FTW choose AGILE
-CHRIS
Louie 11-11-2006, 12:27 PM when is their open house?
gooder77 11-11-2006, 10:09 PM when is their open house?
Nov 18
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1122775
WOR440 11-28-2006, 01:16 PM going dec 16th for stage 2 tune + meth
can't wait
trustSTI 12-12-2006, 11:43 AM Well, I finally booked an appointment and limped the car up to agile for a tune on Dec. 8th. Needless to say, Hill did a great job. He ended up pulling out more power than I expected to get, which is always a good feeling.
02' WRX stock 2.0L w/ vf39 + STi tmic and basic bolt ons.
306awhp & 281ft/lbs
Thanks Hill and everyone up at Agile, you guys do great work and are very oriented to customer satisfaction. I will definetly be a returning customer.
-Joe Stuchinsky
AllAWD 12-14-2006, 08:38 AM Quick question:
Will Agile be willing/able to tune a car using openecu?
I'm thinking of dumping the AP and recouping some cash so long as I can get a future protune from you.
Agile Auto 12-14-2006, 11:16 AM To answer your question, we actually would not recommend ditching the AP in favor of tuning via OpenEcu. You loose the benefit of full product support, controlled engine parameters and other valuable traits of the Cobb AccessPORT.
Finally, for the sake of clarification, to be "ProTuned" you need a AccessPORT to accomplish this. Any other engine management tuning is considered custom tuning. It's a matter of terminology, but worth noting if you didn't know there was a difference.
If you have further questions, email us at sales@agileauto.com
Thanks,
Joe
Agile Staff
WOR440 12-15-2006, 09:17 PM Leaving tommrow morning at 7 for Agile:banana:
Not sure if I will be able to sleep tonight!!
WRX Shenanigans 12-15-2006, 10:49 PM Got an appointment for early Jan. Super Siked!
WOR440 12-17-2006, 06:02 PM Leaving tommrow morning at 7 for Agile:banana:
Not sure if I will be able to sleep tonight!!
Hill, Jeremy and thw Agile crew did an aweosme job with my car:banana:. I would recommend them to anyone.
Check Proven Power Bragging for results.
PA04STI 12-22-2006, 06:22 AM Agile,
How early do I have to setup a tune date so I can be done before early-mid March?
Now all I need to do is figure out WHAT turbo to get and this has been nothing but a major pain.
I also have to install all the supporting goodies....
Question for you guys Boost controller do you like the Turbosmart EBoost2 or what do you recommend.
Also you tune ECUTek right didn't see that on website. Is there anyway to get a limp tune so I can drive down with my setup on the car????
PM me...
Thanks,
Matt
Agile Auto 12-22-2006, 04:37 PM Matt,
Whenever you want to set up your tuning date give us a call to schedule it. Our phone number is 410-877-3003. We will not be back in the shop until Jan 2nd because of the holidays. So you will have to email, pm or leave a voice mail message with us. The sooner you schedule, the better chance you have at scheduling that is convenient to your needs.
We would definitely recommend using the EBoost2 boost controller, the Eboost2 is a great unit.
As for ECUtek, unfortunantly we do not tune that engine management.
If you would like to contact us for further assistance, call or email us at sales@agileauto.com.
Thanks,
Joe
Agile staff
PA04STI 12-24-2006, 02:29 AM Matt,
Whenever you want to set up your tuning date give us a call to schedule it. Our phone number is 410-877-3003. We will not be back in the shop until Jan 2nd because of the holidays. So you will have to email, pm or leave a voice mail message with us. The sooner you schedule, the better chance you have at scheduling that is convenient to your needs.
We would definitely recommend using the EBoost2 boost controller, the Eboost2 is a great unit.
As for ECUtek, unfortunantly we do not tune that engine management.
If you would like to contact us for further assistance, call or email us at sales@agileauto.com.
Thanks,
Joe
Agile staff
DAM I have an ECUTek reflash....Man that sucks
Matt
AlxSti 05-24-2007, 02:18 PM damn.. i gotta get down there sometime. i keep hearing great things about agile.. just can't justify dropping $500 on a protune right now :(
mrcharIybrown 05-28-2007, 12:46 PM damn.. i gotta get down there sometime. i keep hearing great things about agile.. just can't justify dropping $500 on a protune right now :(
Definitely get tuned at Agile when you get the chance/funds. Your car will love you for it. Everyone at Agile is very friendly and Hill does amazing work.
Stage 2, 93 octane
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/chaleexd/dynograph.jpg
sti driver 05-28-2007, 08:21 PM Hill what is your schedule like for June on protunes?
big16gwrx 05-28-2007, 09:04 PM my pro tune is scheduled for this wed... i cant wait!!!
AlxSti 05-28-2007, 11:30 PM wow.. anyone have before/after agile tune stage 2 sti track times??
Chris_Lee 06-08-2007, 09:00 AM PM sent
Chris_Lee 06-11-2007, 10:47 AM PM sent
Chris_Lee 06-14-2007, 11:05 AM PM sent
bonzai 06-14-2007, 11:53 AM Just wondering.. Never see them post anymore. Website doesnt work either.. anyone know?
Bonzai
Kjott21 06-14-2007, 12:43 PM Their website works:
http://agileauto.com/index.php
They are a little hard to get a hold of on the net sometimes. Give them a call and I am sure they will get back to you.
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