hey guys, can I pick your collective brains for a second? Don't know if you've seen my posts, but I have a MY00 Auto 2.5RSt. The ASR Stage II turbo and TECII are the first and only big mods I plan, I'm planning on running 7-10psi boost and not doing many mash-your-foot-on-the-break-and-let-the-rev's-climb starts, and really just using my car for driving fast on freeway, and trips to snow etc (no rally, AutoX). Is there anything you can suggest so that I don't go the same route Imprezinator did and break my car?

with the tec2 you will be fine. you can even go higher in the boost and still be fine. i dont think shiv's kits have blown 1 motor yet when they are properly tuned.

I hope you have your ASR kit because last I heard there's a few people looking for money back and or a turbo kit STILL.

lol... I suggest getting it tuned properly and not trying to tune it in 110 degree temperature while you are still waiting for the intercooler to arrive :)

Eric

PS: I've finally been used as an example, I'm so proud :D :D

Originally posted by Andrew
i dont think shiv's kits have blown 1 motor yet when they are properly tuned.

Heh, no motor has EVER blown due to being properly tuned. :lol:

I don't want to say you guys are wrong, but you are wrong ;). Fitz was running low boost (just put the turbo kit on), it was properly tuned, had a TEC-II, and he still blew his pistons. The 2.5 just does not like boost. There is no kind of tuning you can do to a stock 2.5 motor that will guarantee it will not blow up on you. The weakness seems to be the pistons- change them out and you will *probably* be ok.

Brian
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Conjunction Junction, what's your function?

Pistons or rods?

Just curious.

Originally posted by North Ursalia
I don't want to say you guys are wrong, but you are wrong ;). Fitz was running low boost (just put the turbo kit on), it was properly tuned, had a TEC-II, and he still blew his pistons. The 2.5 just does not like boost. There is no kind of tuning you can do to a stock 2.5 motor that will guarantee it will not blow up on you. The weakness seems to be the pistons- change them out and you will *probably* be ok.

:rolleyes:

Brian, how did you know the car was "properly" tuned? Did you see the actual map used? Did you see the car? Did you drive/hear it?

-Edwin

edit: aussie, you're posting in the wrong forum. try the aftermarket forced induction forum, or the vishnu boards. you'll likely get better responses there.

edwin -
first blow up was due to bad gas, if I recall correctly... Though there was still some additional problems he was expierencing (unsolved). If I recall correctly, a few people have examined his tuning (Shiv even I believe) and they didn't see any inherant problems with it. The second blow up well, I can't speak much about it, but anything we say is purely speculation.... not to mention finger pointing.
AO

Originally posted by m750
I can't speak much about it, but anything we say is purely speculation.... not to mention finger pointing.
AO

Exactly my point. I rest my case...

Edwin, you haven't seen the tuning either so what do you know? If the tuning was at fault I'm real curious how an extra 6psi and 22k miles of it didn't break my motor? But then again, I didn't spend $500 on having Shiv tune it for me so it must be bad, right?

Ryan, what makes you think *I* think the tuning was bad? I didn't say anything like that -- please reread what I said. I'm not saying anything is to blame; I don't know myself and haven't said it's one way or the other.

If anything, I feel that no one really knows, and going off blaming pistons, tuning, etc. is being presumptuous at best, and very misleading at worst. If we believed all the FUD that goes flying around then we'd still be believing people from 2 years ago claiming that the EJ25 couldn't make more than 200hp without coming apart at the seams.

-Edwin

Originally posted by A4Killer
I hope you have your ASR kit because last I heard there's a few people looking for money back and or a turbo kit STILL.

from what I hear buying turbo kits is a nightmare!! My kit is used, came right from Ian, he hooked me up for a great price. I'll get the turbo rebuilt for $150 and have a kick-a$$ setup. 'course, it's not incredibly shiny and new but for $1,500, you can't complain #:-)

My advice to people is to wait until the sport shop has everything in stock, then do a road-trip and actually have the parts in your grubby little hands before putting any money down. Any vendors want to speak to that?

Originally posted by 8Complex


Heh, no motor has EVER blown due to being properly tuned. :lol:


:lol: :lol:

how did you know the car was "properly" tuned?

Gee, sorry Edwin, I guess I interpreted this statement and others I've heard from you that blame my programming for the problems Fitz has had. I can say that the programming was indeed not the cause of the motor being blown, because I have first hand experience with the programming and installation of the turbo kit on his car. I'm unsure what your reasoning is for continuing to point to the programming as the source of failure in Fitz's car but it got old a long time ago.

Ryan

if you are not going to race it, I say it is not worth it.
The constant tune up and maintenance will be a pain. Not to mention no warranty if something breaks. Since it is going to be your daily driver, I don't see why you should spend all that money to travel a little faster on the freeway.
You might be better off just trade the car in for a wrx or something, save the hassel.