Can we talk about the new issue of modified magazine. Featuring the time attack Subaru...

Someone if you could please post links.

Before the main story they write a 3 page review on 2004-06 STI.

The author is a moron though... he states subaru should lose the hood scoop and find a better way of venting the hood... (Obviously it doesn't vent the hood, it more so feeds the intercooler.)

The guy writes some really stupid points on mods... Like An uppipe on an STI would be a great second mod...

I just noticed it in the grocery store... It's not in News and Rumors... and it's a News magazine story... so can someone update or point to mention of this in the general forum so the thread can be moved here.

Thanks...

roflmao...I was just gonna say something about this

also REALLY disapointed in their "review" of the Time Attack car. Some more info and pics would have been great..ditch the model photo's and give us more car content..If I wanna stare at girls in a magazine I'll get a porno mag

Losing the hood scoop is an excellent idea. Front mounting would be much more effective and you wouldn't have the hood rattle like it's coming off the car on certain windy days.

FMIC would be cool, but I just happen to like my scoop. In fact, if the bolt pattern were the same for 05-06, I'd put the monstrous 05 scoop on the car. I may be in the minority, but I love it.

I doubt the guy understood the hood scoop feed air to an intercooler...


He said you could "vent" the hood another way besides the scoop...

Who recommends an uppipe as a second mod to an STI seriously... idiot.

There is alot of space above a Subaru boxer motor. It is very easy and EFFICIENT to use a TMI. Heat soak is the only draw back and that can be "fixed".

After visiting the Modified Mag homepage, I see that it's the ZERO Sports time attack car. There are lots of Subarus competing in time attack... it helps to be a little more specific.


Here's a picture of the car's engine bay from Revtorq Magazine (http://revtorq.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=52&Itemid=9):
http://www.revtorq.com/images/stories/Issue6/Zerosports/2/zerosports017.jpg

That's a grille mounted FMIC like those used on the WRC cars. I have to agree with the author... the hoodscoop only hurts the FMIC's performance. The WRC cars use ductwork to exhaust the air from the intercooler out the front of the hood and over the top of the hoodscoop. What little air is drawn into the hoodscoop is ducted to blow across the turbine housing of the turbo.

Yea I have the FMIC and I looking to put on the "reverse" scoop to help move the hot air out of the engine, and improve the areodynamics of my car :banana:

From all the photos I've seen the scoop looks completely closed up. And if the mock up at the Detroit Auto Show is accurate, it is totally closed. And yes, I realize that none of us can completely trust any "WRC Rally" car shown within the US, but this one was at least very close to the real thing. Pervious years were STi's with stickers and the interior removed.

At 2006 show this appeared to be a rolling chasis at the very minimum but appeared to have at least the intercooler and radiator. All the bits and pieces were in ordered inside and out.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a159/samesk8r/377308544.jpg
In this photo you can see dust collected on the piece covering the scoop intake.

Plus I'm not sure you'd want to stuck engine heat from the hood vent to cool the turbo housing. Any cool air would get caught up and diverted by the front edge of the vent air.

After visiting the Modified Mag homepage, I see that it's the ZERO Sports time attack car. There are lots of Subarus competing in time attack... it helps to be a little more specific.


Here's a picture of the car's engine bay from Revtorq Magazine (http://revtorq.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=52&Itemid=9):
http://www.revtorq.com/images/stories/Issue6/Zerosports/2/zerosports017.jpg

That's a grille mounted FMIC like those used on the WRC cars. I have to agree with the author... the hoodscoop only hurts the FMIC's performance. The WRC cars use ductwork to exhaust the air from the intercooler out the front of the hood and over the top of the hoodscoop. What little air is drawn into the hoodscoop is ducted to blow across the turbine housing of the turbo.


that's all fine and good but you didn't read the article... The reference to the hood scoop isn't talking about the time attack car... It's talking about a stock 04-06 STI the author is stating the hood scoop should be taken off the car for a cleaner look and that there must be another way to vent the hood better. He said he would remove the hoodscoop as one of his mods... along with changing out the uppipe as a second mod on his sti. As for an exhaust he said talk with different manufacters to determine if an catback exhaust was worthwhile...

Your messing up two totally different articles... Both within the same magazine. For these reasons... being the OP I was asking someone to find a link to these articles or a scan copy.

That's a grille mounted FMIC like those used on the WRC cars. I have to agree with the author... the hoodscoop only hurts the FMIC's performance. The WRC cars use ductwork to exhaust the air from the intercooler out the front of the hood and over the top of the hoodscoop. What little air is drawn into the hoodscoop is ducted to blow across the turbine housing of the turbo.


wow are you serious... first off it's called a V mount...

A hood scoop isn't hurting a front mount intercooler... Air reaches the front mount before it reaches the hood scoop... Not matter what happens or what configuration when your traveling at speed... air is always hitting the front mount intercooler no matter if there is a hoodscoop or not.

"No little amount of air is drawn into a hood scoop" Our hood scoops work perfectly fine at speed to cool the intake charge. (Heat soak isn't even a factor in our agruement... we're not saying which one is better.) I'm simply saying you are ill informed and obviously haven't picked up the magazine or bothered to ever research any information, nor understand airflow.

heck you didn't even know it's called a V mount.

From all the photos I've seen the scoop looks completely closed up. And if the mock up at the Detroit Auto Show is accurate, it is totally closed. And yes, I realize that none of us can completely trust any "WRC Rally" car shown within the US, but this one was at least very close to the real thing. Pervious years were STi's with stickers and the interior removed.

At 2006 show this appeared to be a rolling chasis at the very minimum but appeared to have at least the intercooler and radiator. All the bits and pieces were in ordered inside and out.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a159/samesk8r/377308544.jpg
In this photo you can see dust collected on the piece covering the scoop intake.

Plus I'm not sure you'd want to stuck engine heat from the hood vent to cool the turbo housing. Any cool air would get caught up and diverted by the front edge of the vent air.


The scoop is not completly covered on the 2006 WRC car. It is only half covered by a small piece of plastic about halfway up the scoop. There are two pictures that illustrate this below. Not sure why, but i am sure the people who designed the car know a lot more about it than us.

The half covered picture
http://swrt.com/img_gallery/497405004.JPG

and this picture that shows that the scoop has some opening under the hood.
http://swrt.com/img_gallery/592154380.jpg

heck you didn't even know it's called a V mount.
I'm sorry that I didn't know the jargon :rolleyes: You didn't even try to comprehend my post.

I have to agree with the author... the hoodscoop only hurts the FMIC's performance. The WRC cars use ductwork to exhaust the air from the intercooler out the front of the hood and over the top of the hoodscoop. What little air is drawn into the hoodscoop is ducted to blow across the turbine housing of the turbo.

It's impossible to comprehend your post... Do you care to explain what your talking about in detail...

What I'm asking for being the OP is someone to reference or link to the article... not even the time attack article as much as the "author's" review of the STOCK STI.

I reread your paragraph I quoted above a few times... what is your profession? How have you came to these conclusions... to me they are laughable.

Before the main story they write a 3 page review on 2004-06 STI.

The author is a moron though... he states subaru should lose the hood scoop and find a better way of venting the hood... (Obviously it doesn't vent the hood, it more so feeds the intercooler.)Sorry, I didn't realize you were saying that the author thinks the stock STi has problems... I thought you were referring to the time attack car only. My bad. :o

As for a 'v mount'.. there are no true "v mount" intercooler systems for the WRX. Some quick research reveals that the name "v mount" comes from the placement of both the radiator and intercooler in the shape of a v so that they do not interfere with each other (such as in the pic below).

http://www.knightsports.co.jp/catalog/pict/v-mout-003.jpg

rally car uses a v-mount or at least the ones I've seen up close.

lol front mounting would be good for usa but the canadian will cry lol

Losing the hood scoop is an excellent idea. Front mounting would be much more effective and you wouldn't have the hood rattle like it's coming off the car on certain windy days.

That and you wouldn't look like some spoiled high school kid in a riced out sedan.

I think that recent Volkswagon commercial really made a point of "it sucking"! :lol:

That article is horrible. The author Mike Speck is a total noobjobber. things like "a bit more negative camber up front would help" shows he doesn't even know the front comes with POSITIVE camber and needs to be totaly switched to negative camber.

And upipe on the STi?

Full exhaust is the first thing? How bout port your wastegate dummy before you creep on that crappy stock VF39?

We all know that a downpipe and ecu reflash and tune is the FIRST and best bang for your buck for our cars. He might as well have said "put a CAI and a BOV on that thing first off!"

From all the photos I've seen the scoop looks completely closed up. And if the mock up at the Detroit Auto Show is accurate, it is totally closed. And yes, I realize that none of us can completely trust any "WRC Rally" car shown within the US, but this one was at least very close to the real thing. Pervious years were STi's with stickers and the interior removed.

At 2006 show this appeared to be a rolling chasis at the very minimum but appeared to have at least the intercooler and radiator. All the bits and pieces were in ordered inside and out.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a159/samesk8r/377308544.jpg
In this photo you can see dust collected on the piece covering the scoop intake.

Plus I'm not sure you'd want to stuck engine heat from the hood vent to cool the turbo housing. Any cool air would get caught up and diverted by the front edge of the vent air.


Previous years were ex-works cars, trust me I have driven them around teh warehouse before and after the shows :devil: