Hi, I am new to this site and i wanted to get some advice.
well, right now i own an rsx type s. i dont realy like it, i mean i do, but i realy realy wnat the sti to come over.
Anyway, my situation is, my dad sais i can probably get an sti for highschool graduation in june 2004, and i sell my rsx. i realy want to do that! but if im gonna do that, idont want to put mods on my rsx. if the sti is not out by then i will wait but if it is not coming out i want a all wheel drive turbo car. ahhh!!! what should i do? should i continue to mod my rsx? if the sti will come will it most likely be out by june 2004 or around there? what other options do i have to get. and that will be out then.
please help:confused: :( :confused: :(

anyone??:confused: :(

Go ahead to mod your teg.

You should've bought a WRX with those money.

How bout finding a better reason to post other than to brag about what your daddy buys you, and get all the i-club geizers stirred up.

Seriously man, you couldn't have made it more intensional if you tried. You're new here so you haven't seen what happens when young blokes with wealth parents mention "daddy bought me"

My suggestion, mod the RSX, then get the STI, and while you're at it get your dad to pick up an M3 for your sister. (now I'm just having fun:D )

I'm Spent

Peace Middle East,
-Pete

hey, im sorry i made it sound like that. I am new here so i dont know much about it. i was just kinda angryat myself for getting an rsx. i didnt mean to make it sound like that and I respect your feelings.:)

Don't be angry. You can give me your Rsx. Appreciate what you got Kid.

the new Integra (RSX, but I hate the name) is a nice car, I like it. If it's just between the car it'd be hard for me to to choose too. But since I am a big rally car, awd car, turbo car fan, and live in a place with unpredictable rain and snow, I'd choose WRX easily.

If you really want WRX, how about take the teg and trade it in now? the difference you need to pay is pretty marginal.

you'll know whether you need an sti or not after owning the wrx for a while.

OK ,here we go... 1st bash.

You're only a Sophomore right now? (You said graduate in '04) and you have a $19K car? Let me take a guess... 16th b-day present. Then in 2 years, beacause you really want one, an STi...

Do you relize that some people cannot afford a new car every 5 or 10 years in this country? Yet, because you want daddy will provide???

Ok, on a more serious note... :) Please read this as it's not me picking on you. k?

Who will pay the insurance when you're 17 driving an estimated $30K sports car that does 0-60 in under 5 seconds? Look up how much insurance would be on Porsche 911, Corvette, or new BMW M3, and look how much it will cost you, or your daddy. My guess is $3K to $4k additional for insurance.

Mod your RSX.

I know I don't know you and you're probably a decent kid. But time and time again I see the same stuff popping up in the news. "Local teenagers die in car accident. 3 young lives were ended today as a car travelling down Main Street hit a utility pole. The two teenage passengers, one the high school yearbook president and the other captain of the football team were thrown clear of the car and suffered severe trauma to the head. The Driver was crushed on impact with the pole when his driver side door impacted the pole. He was killed instantly. Speed was a factor". What they leave out in these articles is that speed does not kill. Ignorace in controlling speed kills. (This is an age long debate in itself).

It's accidents like these that 1) Raise rates for teeagers everywhere, making it very difficult for the most cautious teenager to get insurance and 2) raise the rates for drivers of that vehicle because it's a fast car.

I'm not saying you'd be the driver of that car. But some statistics show those people that get cars as gifts, never really appreciate what they have and abuse it, never learning from it. Because usually if something happens, daddy steps up to the plate and makes everything go away, or makes things better in the very least.

Stick with the RSX or Base WRX. Learn how to drive. Take courses like Bondaurant or Evolution driving school, or even do some Auto-xing and LEARN from it. Save the speed, even if you do get the car, for a track and keep it off the road. Try not to impress your friends with your car, no matter which one you have. I know it's hard not to flaunt what you have, but you'll end up, down the road, being better for it. :)

--kC

I got a beanie baby and $1000.00 for a graduation gift...I thought that was generous...you want an STi.:confused: Jeeze, be happy with what you have, even though it is a Honduh.

PS-you said you wanted an AWD turbo car...WRX...:rolleyes:

damn, I got a refrigerator (small one for a dorm), and I can't even remember what my mom got me (parent's are diveroced).

Must be nice.

Anyway, I say stick with the car you have, then go out, get a job, and pay for a car that you want. Don't have your daddy buy you another car...noone respects that.

No, I'm not a geezer, I'm 22. I've worked for, and paid for all 4 cars I've ever owned, thanks for asking.

Originally posted by JGard18
No, I'm not a geezer, I'm 22. I've worked for, and paid for all 4 cars I've ever owned, thanks for asking.

Me too.:) Exactly the same info as you...22, 4 cars, and paid my own way...maybe you're my clone.:eek:

Seriously man! An STi will be WAY too much of a car for you to handle! Even the RSX or stock WRX is too much for an unexperienced driver.

Sure you know how to drive, but you dont really know how to drive. When I was 18, my first car was a 98 Saturn Sedan. Sure, my pops helped me a little with the payments and stuff, but I learned how to drive with that car. Gained experience from it and stuff, learned my limits, learned how to drive stick etc....with an ECONOMY CAR.

When I felt "ready" for more power, better handling, I sold and and bought myself a 2000 RS. Not a super powerful sports car, but a BIG step up from that Saturn. And you know what? I almost killed myself a few times in this car because I thought I had the experience to handle this car. I thought the AWD and everything made me invincible. WRONG!

An STi is a VERY powerful car....it should only be in the hands of EXPERIENCED drivers. I'd be a little scared to drive one myself! Until I learn more.

Think of it this way.....if your dad bought you a 450hp Viper as soon as you got your liscense, you'd prolly smash it the first time you took it out!

I say keep the RSX, do some Auto Xing, some drivers courses, and mod it slowly to the best of your abilities. Dont throw on a HUGE rear swaybar, stiff suspension and a turbo before you can drive the car. Just keep it safe dude......

Originally posted by Ant WRX


Me too.:) Exactly the same info as you...22, 4 cars, and paid my own way...maybe you're my clone.:eek:

Wanna hear spooky? I'm also 22, paying for my AWD affliction solely, and on my third car.... almost there.

What do you guys do? I'm an engineering intern.

-Pete

I'm 32... one of the older members. :)

My WRX is my 10th car. All I've had to work for.

I develop interactive training for a large not-for-profit organization.

--kC

ehh, right now I'm a helpdesk bum who dropped out of college :)

waiting for my opportunity, though! :)

I am 22 too. Still going to school. My high school graduation present is probably my university tuition. Still looking for a part time job to buy a used car. (A $2000 AE86 would be nice).

Hey kido (i really want the sti), you should feel lucky for what you have.

I got a card and "I can't believe you actually graduated," when I was graduating a year early mind you so I wasn't slacking off... oh yeah and a breakup from my girlfriend and all of this on my birthday night! the best thing I got was self satisfaction on my graduation night/Birthday! And it was well worth it!!The car I have now I bust my a$$ for and know what it is like to go hungry to make a car payment!

So right now the least of your worries is when the WRX STI is coming out! Look forward bro and I mean Directly forward Like maybe evn closer to your toes! not so far ahead of yourself. You should be more concerned on what you are going to be doing in life than wheather or not the sti is comming in time for your graduation!:confused:

This is not a BASH just a helpfull hint thats all.

Mod your car, but don't do what you think that means. Don't go for increased horsepower right away. Buy the best brakes you can find. Look for cross-cut or cross-drilled rotors, bigger calipers, and stainless steel brakelines. It was a long time ago that I was sixteen, but I remember needing better brakes more often than I needed more power.
Then, before moving on to suspension mods, modify the driver. Take the advice these guys have given you and attend some driving schools. These are great fun and great for learning; and something tells me you won't balk at the price. :)
You don't really need more power until you have learned to harness what is already available.

Since we are all sharing, I'm a 27 year old accountant/accounting student and this is my last semester. Hooray! I've had a bunch of cars, but all of them (WRX included) have been purchased used. Many of them were wrecked and I rebuilt them or had them rebuilt(WRX included).

Finally, some constructive criticism: you used the words I, my, or myself a total of 29 times in the equivalent of 11 lines of text. I told you I'm an accountant, right? :) I'm sure it's unintentional, but it makes you sound self-absorbed. I'm not trying to bash you, but you'll find old codgers on every board who'll notice that kind of thing and make snap judgements about you.

Good grief, change your screen name!

Not to sound harsh - but an STi is WAY too much car for someone of your age. Even the RSX in a capable drivers hands is one hell of a fast car.

I`m 28 - and I drove FWD 1.3 ltr sub-100 BHP cars for years. I had huge amounts of fun learning in them and the big point is - it was safer. Maybe not the same street cred as an M3 or an STi - but hell i`m alive to reminisce about it now ;-)


Front wheel drive cars are a good place to start to learn car control - if you turn in too hot and you start to understeer backing off and dabbing the brake will not normally result in a spin - it just stops the understeer.

In RWD and AWD cars - it can and quite often has unfortunately resulted in a fatal spin - by fatal I mean people die.

It wasn`t until I was 25 that I could afford my own car.

After a few years learning my 300 bhp RWD `67 camaro I got an RS scoobie - I took it easy in my scoobie and probed it`s limits gently and safely - and learned alot about car control in the process - I`ve several taken racing and rally schools.

If you want a graduation present you will never forget - scratch the idea of a scoobie and get yourself some track time with an experienced instructor.

If rally is your bug like alot of people here - Tim ONeil rally school has a great reputaion.

If you are serious about learning to drive high performance cars safely - this is the best present you could get.

An STi without the nessecary experience is like a loaded gun when you have no idea about guns. They could both easily kill you and your friends.

Just remember - whatever you friends tell you - a driver is someone who understands car dynamics and can control a car - a moron is someone who can put his right foot on the floor and has the stupidity to keep it there until they are beyond their ability to control the car.

Just noticed the San Diego CA - you are in La Jolla right ?

I work down on Fay Avenue opposite Vons ;-)

I realy want an STi:

I am going to have to agree with alot of the people here about this. Your parents have the means to buy a car like the RSX or STi for you, great, that's between you and them. What I really want to tell you is that the STi really is WAY TOO MUCH car for you at this EXACT point. Even the RSX is alot of car for someone your age.

Saying that, it wasn't too long ago when I was 16 and got my first car, a 1985 Subaru :D Station Wagon. I still have that car, in fact it is my rally beater.. :) Back then, I did things with it that had I tried with even my RS I would have been dead. :( You see, the 85 was way to slow to get in to real trouble.. If I had my RS when I was 16, I can pretty much ALMOST guarantee I would have wrecked it in that important first year of driving- I was inexperienced and tried things I shouldn't have. Maybe you are different, but I think the majority of 16-17 year olds get a little stupid behind the wheel.

I agree with Uncle Git, the best graduation present you can possibly recieve is professional advanced drivers instruction- I offer up that if you recieve that now and start going to autocrosses and such- you MIGHT be ready and experienced enough for an STi when you graduate.

As for if you should mod your RSX? If I were in your situation, I would spend that money on the aformentioned items so that you can possibly be ready when the STi comes. In the meantime, have fun learning in your RSX. Only YOU can make sure if you are ready or not for a true high-performance car.


BTW, do not be surprised if the STi shows up next fall, you might have to wait a couple of model-years... :D


JJ
www.imprezawrxsti.com
All STi, All The Time

does anyone have any opinions onhow nissans new fairlady Z that is coming out will compare to the sti? not an rally terms but on performence.
and, hey, thanks for all the advice, i am going to see about the driving school:D

Let's just say im old enough to have a son ,17 yrs old, that drives.lol. The last thing I would buy him would be an STI version of anything.Unless i wanted him dead.As others have stated thats way to much car fr a kid.My son learned on and drove our old Legacy beater fr a yr and did well.1 yr latter he saved his dough and got an older stock(cherry lol) Celica gt .He's like me a motorhead,but he still drives without the exsperiance of seat time.Power is neat to have but you gotta respect it.
Around here all the well off kids get brand new Jeep Wranglers as 16th BD gifts:rolleyes: .Id like a dollar fr evry one thats rolled one.
Enough said by Dad:D
Rudy

The true US spec. of Fairlady Z and STi are still unknown. Z is nice looking and should have 260+hp. US STi should have 260+ too.

What do you mean by performance?
Going fast in straight? Rally term is a kind of performance too you know.

Performance is just an assistance to a driver's skill. If you don't have the skill then you'd get beaten anyway no matter what performance you have, if not in straight then in corners.

Stop blindly chasing after car performance, unless you just want a car to show off.

well, im thinkin the new z will have more potential, cause its got the same hp with no turbo, and if you put a turbo on it it will spool up soooo fast! plus i dont think street handeling will be too bad at all, seems to me like it wil be like the supra is now.
by the way, is it a big car?

It's not big, but it's not light. It's got V6 3.5 engine. Right, it might be very fast if you add a tubo, in straight line that is. But, we still don't know the internal structure of the engine, and the material. You might not be able to mod it like you mod Supra.

Kid, there are many things to be considered when you mod a car.

Ever seen 280HP R34 GTR got beaten by 160HP 1986 Corolla on track?

good point,

Hey, you guys give good advice.

i really want the sti:
I think you should wait a while longer for cars with as much power as the ones that you want. Everyone needs "training wheels". I dont think anyone in high school should get a brand new car. How many 10th/11th graders got brand new cars in high school? And what happened to those cars before they graduated high school? They probably crashed them or got their car vandalized in some way. I know a guy that crashed a IS300 in the 12th grade, and alot of my friends had their cars keyed. And how about the kids with fast cars in high school, by coincidence they were the same kids that the cops knew by name cuz of tickets and suspended licenses. I know kids in the 11th grade with suspended licenses. If you do decide to keep your RSX through high school, park it in well lit places, down the street at parties, get a good alarm, and most importantly...know your cars limits. If i knew those things in high school, my moms Accord would have never had a broken window, it would have never been keyed, and i would still have my honda sign and knowing my cars limits saved me from that time we got chased by some idiots.

Imprezard:Ive seen a AE86 beat a R34 on the track. Here in CA, AE86's dont go for $2000 anymore, they start at like $3500 and up. For one without a motor, they go for $500 and up. Either way, theyre pretty hard to find, one of my friends has 2, it took him a year to find both.

Originally posted by I drive a WRX wagon
Imprezard:Ive seen a AE86 beat a R34 on the track. Here in CA, AE86's dont go for $2000 anymore, they start at like $3500 and up. For one without a motor, they go for $500 and up. Either way, theyre pretty hard to find, one of my friends has 2, it took him a year to find both.

Where the hell do you live? I live in south florida and see them for sales all the time...usually under $2200 (yes, they are the GT-S).

Here, I'm gonna let you in on a secret. www.traderonline.com

You're thinking of the '86 GT-s RWD Hatchback, not the newer FWD Coupes GT-s, right?

I searched auto-trader. There's only one listed for sale in this county there and it's in NC. No price listed, but probably can get it cheap.

--kC

Originally posted by i realy want the sti
does anyone have any opinions onhow nissans new fairlady Z that is coming out will compare to the sti? not an rally terms but on performence.
and, hey, thanks for all the advice, i am going to see about the driving school:D

This really disturbs me. You have a 200hp, 2800 lb, six speed car that could easily be one of _the_ best FWD cars around, extremely easy to modify with its massive aftermarket and you want an STI? Do you think you even know how to drive the RSX Type S that you _have_ within 2/10ths of its limit?

If you really want the STi, then save everyone some money and time and get yourself a base WRX. By the time the STi comes out, you can easily have a WRX capable of smashing the STi into the ground. Alfriedesq can have essentially whatever he wants, and he has no intention of trading in his WRX. This is the WRXs first year, all these cars will be collector items. I would get in on it now, or stick with the RSX. Either way, don't think you can just jump into a Z, an STi or M3 for that matter. They are not meant for (take no offense here, I'm young too) kids who have experienced heel-toe on Cruisin' World in the arcade.

Ohh, nice chat here about age and driving :)

Anyways I'm 17, almost turning 18, and I've got a 2.5RS, do you guys think thats too much? I think the car is awesome, but I'd like more speed tho. I got the heel toe downshifting like it was nothing now and I'm smooth at shifting too, I learn fast :) okay maybe i'm not totally perfect, but I'm good.

I haven't been stopped by a cop yet either, or got into an accident that was my fault. I have got into an accident where someone has hit me. Anyways, like all of you there were close encounters of accidents, and i've learned from them, at least i hope.

I think that the 2.5rs is a GREAT starter car. It's not overpowering, but it has plenty of 'ooomph', it handles great, it's affordable, and it's not killer on insurance. Wonderful pic.:)

I drive wrx wagon: There are some 86's here going for about $2000 to $3000.

Man, you guys are lucky where you live, just look at any post at club4ag.com in the auctions section, most of all the AE86 in California are going for more than $3000. Theres a shop near my house that is selling their Corolla GTS for $6000 repainted body and I think its supercharged. Demand for that car has grown alot in the last year. Pretty much anything that you can find in a Option video is in high demand here in California. People are willing to pay $25 for a little Option2 sticker when they come free in some Option2 magazines

Originally posted by KC
You're thinking of the '86 GT-s RWD Hatchback, not the newer FWD Coupes GT-s, right?

I searched auto-trader. There's only one listed for sale in this county there and it's in NC. No price listed, but probably can get it cheap.

--kC

Dude, somethings wrong with you or your searches. I just did a search for within 200 miles of my zip and found 14, 1986 toyota corollas, 2 GTS's...one is MINT! They want way too much though. The other has a toyota supra turbo V6 engine/tranny in it!:eek: It's fugly and expensive...:rolleyes:

AutoTrader.com

Toypta, 1986 to 1986

Advanced Search

Select Hatchback

Select Any Distance

5 Corollas showed up, but only 1 GTS Hatchback in NC.

--kC

hmmm. Kind of strange. Not trying to sound prejudice, but in Miami, it seems like a lot of spanish people drive those cars...there is a lot of them on the road.

PS- it doesn't have to be a hatchback though. Remember, there was a trunk version of the GTS; also, it doesn't have to be 1986 either, that same model was made for a couple of years.;)

Try 33071 zip and look within 200 miles...

Ahh my bad. I thought hthey were only hatches and it was a nice way to filter out the crap of the other corollas.

--KC

Yeah... I think AE86 are made between 1985 to 1987. 2 versions, coupe and hatch.

do not mod your car if you know you will want another car, save your money and time and wait for STi.

use your dad's name to buy it and to insure it with his name, too. it will be hella expensive and i don't think you can afford it yourself.

Boy i wish i hsd this kids problems when i was 17. I bought my first car, a 1985 T/A for $2300 and i had to pay for it myself.
I also had to do all the maintenance and pay for my insurance. It must be real bitch to have to make the kind of decisions he has to make. If i were you i would just buy a new camaro and ram it into a tree right now. About the corolla with the V-6 supra motor...either they are lieing or they are stupid because the supra never had a V6, it only came with an I6 so i would be suspect of that car. To put in my 2 cents about car choice after reading about the new 6 speed gearbox I think i am going to wait for the STi, that way when i up the boost i am not shearing gears left and right. The only part i didnt like about the WRX was the relatively weak gearcase. I used to have a '94 3kGT VR4 with a getrag 6 speed and i flogged that beast for all i was worth and she never complained once. So I will save my nickels and dimes and wait for the beloved STi to be released.

Cheers,
Al

I see that a lot of people seem to be upset that this kid is only 16 and his parents bought him an rsx. i dont see whats wrong with that. Hes on our side, he wants a subaru. Im 16 and my parents have bought all my cars, im not complaining. Just be happy he wants to join us WRX owners!.......plus some one comented that they should go out and buy an m3 for his sister too, well my sister got an m3 and im glad to see that a girl has intrest in a fast car.

i hate people like this
"im 16 and my dad just bought me a new trans am but u know im not completely happy with it i was thinking. maybe if i kiss his ass for a week ill get a f1 car then ill be so cool and i can go to all the high school party's in my new car. oo maybe daddy will get me a helicopter and a limo with a driver."

I HOPE U CHOKE

flying monkey crap. im 21 working my ass off, driveing a 90 ford taurs station wagon, to get a car. also going to school id kill for a rsx let a lone a rsx s. in fact i would have no prob taken your car after all your daddy can always buy u a new one.


Ohh, nice chat here about age and driving

Anyways I'm 17, almost turning 18, and I've got a 2.5RS, do you guys think thats too much? I think the car is awesome, but I'd like more speed tho. I got the heel toe downshifting like it was nothing now and I'm smooth at shifting too, I learn fast okay maybe i'm not totally perfect, but I'm good.



theres nothing wrong with this because your not bitching about what daddy got you, and u wanting more like a spoild baby. and an rs is a great first car 5 speed is soo much easyer to use in the beging then a 6. your still a lucky SOB n i hate u for it :p :p

Originally posted by Ant WRX
I got a beanie baby and $1000.00 for a graduation gift...I thought that was generous...you want an STi.:confused: Jeeze, be happy with what you have, even though it is a Honduh.

PS-you said you wanted an AWD turbo car...WRX...:rolleyes:

fuker i got a beanie baby too but i dont a hand shake with it :p was it the owl with the grad year on it?

im sorry that you own any ford, let alone one from the early 90's but calm dowm! i think it sucks that you assume that kids with nice cars are spoiled. im sure you wished you got a new car at 16.... would you want people to rag on you cuz you own a new car so young? im very thankful that my parent support my cars. and as for the rsx kid just dont worry about him cuz your never going to see him in real life, so you dont need to be worryed about him making you look bad in his rsx...or sti if he gets one!

i realy want the sti
beyond all the jealously here, there are probably some good answers to your questions. When i got my WRX (im 21, i own a gas station, and i promise i work as many or more hours per week than n e 1 here, so don't start that old geezer bs about being too young) i wanted it to go faster and faster. Till one day i was racing (yea yea i've learned my lesson, and please dont act like any of u have never done it) a new audi up a mountain to my house and a sherrifs deputy passed. I got away, the audi got towed. I'm not going to mention speeds, b/c i'm not bragging, but we were going over 3 times the speed limit. What really scared me (as if blue lights arent enough) is at the top there is a horse-shoe curve. After braking, if i hadn't looked down at my speedometer to see i was going 70, not 30 I probably would be dead. I had 2 friends with me...none of us laughed...in fact i vomited when we were safly hiding at my uncles house. This brings me to my point: I have extra money, like u, to spend on my car. Suspension and brake upgrades are great, but dont forget u can drop a load of cash making ur ride nice with body kits, stereo systems, DVD systems (i got a ps2 in my wrx) wheels, paint, etc. etc. etc. Go to a RSX users forum and find the nicest looking RSX, and try to make yours nicer. An sti shouldn't take that long, and in the mean time u'll have a *very* nice ride. If u decide to go for speed, just please be careful. These guys mean well, but jealousy can be a b1tch, so i say enjoy your parents money. Life is only a sure thing once.
jeremy:devil:

Its been enjoyable to read this up to a point, but now I have to ring in. Why, because listening to people who are 16 years old COMPLAIN about an RSX type s makes me nautious. Utterly sick. You say I am jealous, your damn right I am. No matter how much you think you appreciate your car, the fact of the matter is you did not buy it. It took no discipline on your part to obtain it, no sacrifice, no effort, no responsibility. It was given. As easily as taking in a breath of air, you obtained a 24K dollar car. Now you find something better and you want to simply upgrade. Had you actually earned the car, and bought it yourself, you would never consider it. You cant teach a person value and appreciation. A starving man is thankful to get a cracker, even if its stale. A person who has never been hungry, or has never done without a meal, wont appreciate the same cracker. This is an extreme circumstance I realize, but you wont understand and cant understand why all these people on this board are giving you a hard time.

The reason for that is because in order for you to relate to what these folks are talking about you would have had to scrimp and save for months, sometimes years, to be able to afford the payments on a car like a WRX. Yes these people are jealous, as am I. You are a 16 year old boy with a 24K car, I am 28 year old Mechanical Engineer that works on the main engines of the space shuttles, that has worked my whole life to get this job, and manage to afford my 2001 impreza RS. I cant even afford a WRX right now because I just bought my RS. I am going to have to wait a year or two to get ahead of my payments before I can even entertain the idea of a WRX. And here you are, 16 years old, in high school with a car that would smoke mine and its not good enough. You can possibly imagine the hardships of college and the long hours of work.

Maybe I am one of these geezers, maybe I cursed that I grew up poor, and I should not hold it against you. Just because I had to work for everything I ever had does not mean you should have to. :rolleyes:

You want some advice, kid....enjoy your car, you are VERY LUCKY to have such a nice car. Really enjoy it, and give up this idea of an STI. Because quite frankly, you dont deserve one.

And whether you think you do or not is irrelavant. Do yourself a favor and "suffer" a little and drive a car you are not "happy" with. In the long run it may build some character and you will stop depending on daddy for everything and earn it yourself.

SCRAPPYDO

ever notice that before the WRX came out we did not have questions like this? Just a thought..

Uh-huh! Preach on SCRAPPY! I can't stand all these spoiled whiny little brats, just jumpin on the bandwagon. No high school kid ever appreciates what he's got, they just want something that gets them attention. So when something else comes along that has more hype, they want that instead.

-DAN

LOOK ********, im not complaining about my car, i am was asking a simple question, and you say i didnt work for my car? bull ****! i went to a private bourding school for 358 days walking in lines and on silence for 22 hours a day not too mention the other 256 rules. i am a junior in highschool, and soon going to college, so all you who say i didnt work for it, ***** your selves! :monkey:
and all of you who actualy had any utmost of respect and simply answered my question , thank you:)
i have nothing agaist the civilized people here, but most peopl who posted are just whining themselves, and giving i-club a bad rep.
Also i am not going to go around and talk ****, i am going to support htis site, i like subaru's, my best friend has one and its realy cool, thats why im looking to get the sti myself.
any way, i have respect for you so im not going to pull the same ****, two WRONGS dont make a right.

peace;)

haha, maybe boarding school should have showed you how to speak in public. I did not know private boarding schools taught such a mastery of the english language. I am impressed.

Look this board has been around for years, and a lot of us with it. Its supposed to be a constructive place to ask questions and get answers to technical questions and inquiries. A place to plan meets and talk about everything subaru. Since the introduction of the WRX, it seems we have started the transformation to a "WRX vs ......" and a "What body kit is better with which carbon hood... " type websight. Its beginning to get really hard to seperate the tuners from the posers.

As for your comment on working for it, you are 16, believe me, you dont even know what work, stress, or pressure is yet. Their are people who have worked for years before they get a new car, so dont act like you built the Hoover dam or anything. But enough of this. I wont talk about work, because we have no common basis to talk on and because its not that constructive.

As for two wrongs dont make a right, well I guess all of us who have been on the board longer than you have been behind the wheel of a are ruining the place. All of us who bought RS's and tuned them to generate enough interest in the WRX to get it here, are ruining the place. All of us who supported this websight with OUR OWN MONEY, are ruining the place.

Think before you speak man...

I will stop this, because frankly I cant argue with you. I have nothing to gain for my efforts. If you want an STI, great, power to you. I am sorry your free brand new RSX type S is so lowsey and horrible that you can only bare to drive its festering shell for 2 years until you graduate.

One day when you get my age (12 long years from now) you may understand and appreciate how hard it is to stand on your own two feet. Until then, take care

SCRAPPYDO

yes, i agree that this should be a constructive board, so why dont you realize that your self, and by the way, I am 17 bitch:monkey:

That is a BIG no no, NEVER call an I-Club member-especially one that is older, wiser, and has better grammer than you do- a BITCH! What the hell is wrong with you?!:mad: :mad:

YOU:monkey:
people like you who give subaru a bad name. look, i like subarus, but your just giving this site a bad name , and as for calling a subaru owner that is older than me a bitch, big deal, your a bitch in my book *******. you think your hot ****, well go fuk your self:monkey: :monkey: :monkey: :monkey: :monkey: :monkey:

ibtl :rolleyes:

Okay people, chill out. Let's stop calling names and using bad words.

The kid just had a bad start, and now he's making "his situation in i-club" worse...

Give him a second chance and see what he'll learn here.

i really want the sti, posting words like that is a big no no here, no matter how upset you are.

You spoiled son of a bitch! I'm an ******* in your book?! Maybe you should check yourself out before saying crap like that! YOU ruin the site, where do you get off on saying that I ruin it? "Unsatisfied" with your 20 grand RSX? My car has half the power, half the looks, and 1/10th of the cost! I'm perfectly satisfied with it! I had to maintain a 4.0 GPA *AND* save up $2000 before I was even allowed to buy it!
From you're lousy spelling, you probably don't do very well in school, or California has some serious education issues!
Thats 3 teens within the last 2 weeks that have that "daddy bought me" attitude! Anyone that tells people to go "F--k themselves" doesn't derserve to share his/her thoughts on I-club!

Thats my .02, but your "daddy" can probably afford to give you more than 2 cents...:mad:

Originally posted by i realy want the sti
YOU:monkey:
people like you who give subaru a bad name. look, i like subarus, but your just giving this site a bad name , and as for calling a subaru owner that is older than me a bitch, big deal, your a bitch in my book *******. you think your hot ****, well go fuk your self:monkey: :monkey: :monkey: :monkey: :monkey: :monkey:

and this says it all

I'm broken hearted ... my dad ripped me off when I was your age! When I said I needed a car for college, my dad brought home a well used Mercury Comet and handed me the payment book! When I said I wanted to go to college, he said "Hey, I won't stand in your way, GO!." Well no tuition was forthcoming and I had to give him money from my meager paycheck to pay for rent ... along with car payment and insurance.

Am I mad at him today? Hell no! I learned to associate work with earning money to buy what I wanted. I've got all the toys along with the knowledge I earned them through my own efforts.

Be happy with what you have. A $30K+ car and insurance for someone your age is ludicrous! This isn't mean-spirited, but a suggestion to learn the value of money. The world is changing rapidly (for the worse), and there may be no "free lunch" in your future.

Well, skipping over all of the bs that's been tossed around, in 3 years or so, there will most likely be some beast of a rally car on US shores (STI or EVO, or both). Hell, you could go to the dealership and get on a waiting list (if there is one to be sure to be one of the first to get it).

Now to go knee deep into the bs...
For the person that said they're 16 and their parents have bought them all of their CARS. I'm sorry, but if you're 16 and your parents have bought you multiple cars, then you're spoiled. And the thought of a teenage girl behind the wheel of an M3 is just scary. I still don't know why girls get cheaper insurance rates than guys do. All of the girl drivers I know can't drive worth ****e.

but i have only got a year and a half to wait, do you think they will be out by june 2003?

They are going to be out by October 03 at the latest. That is the latest that I have heard they will be out. I, on the other hand, believe that they are coming out October 02 to May 03....


Sidenote: (let's put this thing to rest)
If my parents had the money, I might have gotten a new car from them but I didn't.

- If you had the money and the means, would you not give your kids a new car? Make them pay for it buy being good kids, students, and chores? Honestly ask yourselves...

-If you were 16 and your parents offered you a brand new ride, would you not accept? Honestly...

Put that issue to rest people, please and lets discuss something else...

JJ
www.imprezawrxsti.com
All STi, All The Time

i am a junior in highschool,

And in your 1st post you say you're going to graduate in 2004?

I guess math isn't your strong point. :rolleyes:

Your grammar is horrible, you can't spell for beans, and your math sucks. What's your fathers e-mail address? I want to let him know that the boarding school did nothing, your education is for naught, and if he want's to throw money away on you, to give up and give it to all of us for trying to educate you in the fact that life sometimes BEGINS to suck after High School. :)

By the way, if you're going to graduate in 2004, that means you would be a SOPHOMORE right now, not a junior.

Methinks I smell a troll. :) Why? You're so confused you can't get your damn story straight.

Go complain to mommy and daddy that we're treating you unfair. Life IS unfair, you just haven't experienced hardship yet.

--kC

..... and their was great rejoicing .....

(well said KC! Quite well said!)
SCRAPPYDO
stephen

I really Want an STi..
Why dont you show some maturity and not blow up and swear at our members..Yes we can be cras and harsh at times. But in this case it would have done you a lot of good to bite your tongue and be nice to us. Look at it from our point of view, we all have jobs, and bust our balls for our lives and cars. Your in highschool, live at home and have a phat ride. Live it up while you can. Save this thread and in 10 years look back on it and see how YOU feel about it......
Back to the topic, your RSX Type S is a great, ne Stellar car. Do you know how to drive it? I mean correctly, safely and at the limit? Have you taken ANY advanced driving schools, autocrossed it or even read any books on high performance driving? if not, do all of the above before you even think about getting a faster car. For your own sake and for the people around you. After you have done so, and found the limits of yourself and your car, then think about what it is you want out of a car. If the STi is Right for you, get a job, save you pennies and buy it yourself. it will mean more to you than if it was given to you.

And NEVER call an I-clubber a Bitch.

Hey Brucelee... you said the 'b' word Huhhh heh huh. I'm thinking this kid (i want an sti) has more gonads than strife.

You must be thinking we all are Keith's mom... just grap on my tired, k? :lol:

(I actually met Keith this past weekend... that's another story for another thread.)

--kC

i really want the sti:

If you like have power, why don't you go for the Noble M12GTO?
This car only 2x the price of a WRX, and will go 0-60mph in 3.9 sec!!
best of all it look like a F1 car!!
__________________________
To all:

What's wrong with having a rich dad to buy what car his son want?
I don't see any problem, as long as the kid won't kill ppl with his car, driving badly on the road.
other than that is just his business and his family!

so stop calling name!!

And No I don't have rich dad and I own a 02TS!

Just my 2 cent

i really want the sti:

You may not understand or agree anything that has been expressed here, but aside from the pointless banter, take some of these posts to hart and really think about them, we all speak from experience....I know having the STi would be dope, believe me I want just as much but remember its anywhere from a year and a half to three years off, a long time for you to wait at your age, when you get older, and believe me years wont seem that long anymore but anyway, just realx for now and have fun with your Type S and that 6th gear, go get a part time job and save some $$ or better yet spend some quality time with your parents, it may seem like a "Full House" ending but I think things will be alot better off if you do and you might understand things better and not have to learn about life's little pains in the ass on a message board called i- club. ( no offense at all intended there )

you say i didnt work for my car? bull ****! i went to a private bourding school for 358 days walking in lines and on silence for 22 hours a day not too mention the other 256 rules.

All I gotz to say is BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA are you kidding me? That's your hard work sob story?!

I don't see any problem, as long as the kid won't kill ppl with his car, driving badly on the road.

That IS the problem, too much power, not enough knowledge in it's control. How many stories have you heard about 'the rich kid' getting a car, and wrecking it, wrecking someone elses car or life?

I live near a very affluent community, and I hear about 5 stories within 2 months of high-school senior year graduation. (M3's, Corvettes, Cobra Mustangs, even Porsches) Severe injury to driver, passenger, or innocent bystander is always involved. (Darwin at it's best)

Kids wreck their cars. They don't know how to drive, and no one can tell them that until they experience it. That's why their insurance is so high, even for the 'A' student who has more responsibility in his pinky than this kid has in his life. Why? Because the 'A' student has to WORK for his grades, but his age lumps him in the pool of inexperienced drivers.

We can TRY to MAYBE instill some sense of responsibility, but truth be told, this kid will probably get an STi anyways.

Look at his name.. 'I really WANT the STi".

I WANT a Playstation 2 because everyone else has them
I WANT a new car because it's my right when I turn 16
I WANT that because so-and-so has it
I WANT I WANT I WANT. See? :)

--kC

Originally posted by totoherbs


fuker i got a beanie baby too but i dont a hand shake with it :p was it the owl with the grad year on it?

Yea, same owl... grad year and everything;)

whoa, guess I should have looked at this thread at one point or another yesterday... ehh, but I was lazy.

I know you're in highschool some of you, but let's keep the name calling away from here.