Im not gonna start a JC Sports hate thread, but people are welcome to post opinions on this thread. I have had good experiance w/JC Sports...I ordered an intake and exhaust from them at seperate occasions and both were delivered to my house in a weeks time. They customer sevice for me was good and I have no complaints about them.

ruh roh.

Holy crap!!!!:eek: and he doesnt even live in colorado!!!Maybe he s a plant.;)
Rudy

lol... Come on guys. I had a good experience with them.. Given, I only order some shocks that they had in stock but everything went pretty smooth :)

Eric

Still waiting on a body kit they said they shipped two weeks ago. Hmmm...maybe it got lost in the mail? hahaha

JCSPORTS is like FedEX, "quick" (to make promises), "reliable" (they will always make em) and always "honest" when it comes to lies :)

Dont order from them. Simple. :)

suby

:lol:

JC sports is a joke... sorry...

company that had potential to really do great things for the subaru performance market...

too bad their heads arent screwed on straight...

they are totally UNRELAIBLE, dont COMMUNICATE at all...

a very, very poor representation of the subaru performance vendor community...

i would never buy anything from them again...

and i recommend of others not to do so as well.


and if this thread gets out of control, it goes away...

j.
www.subiegal.com

I second what Subie Gal says.

[flame suit on]
Subie Gal - I think that's a pretty "unfair" view of JCS. Many of the guys local to JCS aren't even on this board. Heck I get frustrated with them too sometimes about certain things, but like all other "minority" cars, quality takes time. You're not going to find performance parts for Subarus like you are Hondas.

I do agree with you about the stained customer service, but seriously, their products are top notch and are worth the wait.

As for the communication portion, wouldn't you want a Co. working their hardest to produce something instead of always online or answering phones instead of building your products? You must understand that there're only a handfull of guys @ the shop at any given time.

One thing is that they must get more defined job descriptions, and impliment more advanced business management techniques.

[/flame suit off]

I have now experienced all of the subaru vendors and JC SPORTS is by far the best. Kevin and Joel are very knowledgable, and the products that i needed were sent out overnight the same day I ordedred them. They kept my car in good running order when I turbocharged it. They ALWAYS answer their phone, and the are very knowledgeable. Kevin always seems like he has the time to talk and help me troubleshoot. I will most likely be doing most of my business with them from now on. They are far more prompt the Cobb Tuning, more friendly than SPD, and more attentive then B-spec. In my opinion they are the BEST! Thanks KEVIN AND JOEL!
adamsrs

i've ordered parts from jc sports before and haven't have any problems with their service.

I ordered a part from them about 2.5 months ago. They could not get it but charged me for it in the beginning. Ive been after them for a month and a half for my refund and they keep d!cking around. If I dont get my money soon I am sending them a certified letter threatening them with legal action. I do not reccomend ordering from them at all.

I would not buy from them!!!!!! I ordered an exhaust, they charged my card , talked to them many times and they kept telling me we will ship it on friday, then more than a month later guess what, no exhaust!!! several weeks more went buy then I finally had my card credited after a few more long distance calls!

I read the bad posts, gave them a chance and they didn't do what they said thet would, so good luck to anyone who buys from them..

:mad:

All of my dealings with JCS have been nightmares. And there are quite a few so I can say this knowing it was not just a one time fluke.

It is totally to big of hassel dealing with them.

I think the term "buyer beware" was invented just for them.

As for the communication portion, wouldn't you want a Co. working their hardest to produce something instead of always online or answering phones instead of building your products? You must understand that there're only a handfull of guys @ the shop at any given time.

if they cannot support their customer base by being available... they should just fold up....

you have to provide CUSTOMER SERVICE to have customers....

you dont provide any, you dont have any... so they can build and research all they want...

soon they will have nobody to sell to because THEY SUCK!!!

:D

j.
www.subiegal.com

Word :D:

GTBGUY - I think that in fair disclosure you have a business relationship with JCSports, and you are in fact "JCSports Canada."

So your opinion is hardly unbiased.

The turbo kit group buy they started in OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR still has not had all of the orders fulfilled, and that is with more than half of the buyers dropping out.

Do tell about how they are working so hard "producing" instead of answering the phone.

And you are better off talking to their answering machine, anyway, because it will not purposefully lie to you.

I don't care if they know everything there is to know about turbocharged Imprezas, I don't care if they have the best prices.

They don't know the first thing about personal decency, and that is all that matters.

Well,,weve heard from Blaster,would Scott (Pipercub)like to respond???:lol:

I have a few of their products...never had any complaints.

well i can not say the same. i ordered both front and rear strut tower bars at the same time on the 8th of may of this year of course, and i still only have the front one, i've benn told all kinds of things from they were back logged, different manufacture is going to make them, then last week i will make sure you get it by the end of the week...b.s. with jc sports...will never buy from them again...customer service is bad, even in a phone call it was all laughs and jokes...i guess they think its ok...:confused:

Originally posted by adamsrs
I have now experienced all of the subaru vendors and JC SPORTS is by far the best. Kevin and Joel are very knowledgable, and the products that i needed were sent out overnight the same day I ordedred them. They kept my car in good running order when I turbocharged it. They ALWAYS answer their phone, and the are very knowledgeable. Kevin always seems like he has the time to talk and help me troubleshoot. I will most likely be doing most of my business with them from now on. They are far more prompt the Cobb Tuning, more friendly than SPD, and more attentive then B-spec. In my opinion they are the BEST! Thanks KEVIN AND JOEL!
adamsrs

I wouldn't consider anything coming from you to be helpful testimonial. Here's why (http://www.i-club.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3160)

I just installed a torque chip into my '90 Legacy. I got the chip from JC Sports. The chip works great. It really wakes up the mid range of the Subaru. I received the chip in a timely manner but it took an excessive amount of time and effort to get the paper work needed to install the chip. I have had many problems getting things in a timely manner or at all in the past. If Joe could become much more reliable, then he would have a great company!

I have a torque chip installed too, just put it in my 97' GT on Fri. However they sent me one for a 5sp, I have an auto, so my check engine light's on, and I'm waiting for the right chip and 3 other parts in 2 orders to come in. Been waiting for over 2 months for my exhaust.
Mike

I ordered a intake from them about 6 months ago, not a problem, everything was good. Since then I have ordered an exhaust (over 2 months ago), strut tower bar, sway bar, torque chip. Paid for all of them. I recieved the chip last fri, but they sent me the manual one, not the auto. The rest they are going to need anouther week for the next month. I have called them quite a bit, Kevin knows his stuff, but I have never been able to get them to answer the phone on a Monday, or before noon (eastern time).
Mike

Judging from what others have said here I wouldn't even buy a sticker from them! JC Canada or US. Same company, Same Service. But from what I can see, I think that they are selling too much stuff that they have to order which is bad cause if that vendor takes a month to get it then it will take another month to get it to you. This is indeed a bad practice that I find many vendors use. If a vendor is selling something I think they should have it in stock first.

Honestly the previous owner of my car ordered from JC Sports and had no problems to comlain about.

One good thing is that I have called them a couple times and each time they promptly answered there phones. I have also emailed them and gotten prompt responses 3 out of the 4 times.

One bad thing is that I was desperately trying to buy a set of 18X7 +50 Team Dynamics Motorsports. I had talked to a couple other Team D vendors who all said they are beeing manufactured but they don't have them in America to sell yet. Then I saw them on JC Sports website for an unbeatable price. So I emailed them to see if they could get me these. I got a response saying they could have them on my doorstep in 3 days. I was so excited I almost gave them my CC number right then. I decided to call the Vice President of sales at Team Dynamics USA branch. Don at Team D told me that they would have to order the wheels through them firstly and secondly theyre US branch didn't even have any of the 18X7 +50 for there vendors to sell. They had not yet been shipped from england. At this time I felt a little suspicious. I then emailed JC Sports asking about sizes that Team D doesn't even make. Sure enough I got an email back the next day stating they would be on my doorstep in three days.

So all in all I was boldly lied to and have lost all confidence in JC Sports.

Brad

well you must be two out??????can't count that high that had gotten there parts. do you live next door or something? sorry about this, i have been waiting since the 8th of may when i placed an order for strut tower bars for my impreza, i still only have the front bar..they even sent me the wrong bar i sent it back trying to be a nice guy but i see where that has gotten me. i was told over the phone i would have that rear bar last week, well its monday and both ups/fedex have made the runs past out house and another day with no part..i wonder if they really sell anything or just pay someone to say they get great service and really get sh__......BM ME JC SPORTS>>>>:lol:

Several months ago I asked JC Sports to get me STi upper strut mounts for my Legacy. I was told several times that they were on their way. I was even told at one point that they had charged his credit card and were next day airing them the following day. I didn't hear from him again for a very long time and I NEVER got the mounts!

Legacy GTR: they probably made that up, about the AT or MT chip.

I was having problems with the thing, too, once, and at first they said it was for the wrong model year... then, after constant bitching with them about it not working, the story changed, and they said that they were all the same.

so, no offense, but I feel safe in my statement that they lied to you to try to protect themselves for sending out a faulty chip.

yes, i've heard all the stories about how wack JC is and what not, but i placed an order for a new pulley and an intake (while i was at it) last week, and supposedly it's shipping yesterday or today...

i would have gladly gone somewhere else, but everyone else is backordered 4-6 weeks on N1 pulleys, and they're the only ones that make an intake (besides weaponR), so i figured either way (worst case) i'm gonna be waiting a while...

so i called yesterday, and the pulley was ready to go, they were just waiting on the new shipment of intakes from the powder-coating facility to come in that afternoon. so maybe, just MAYBE they've changed their ways and can get my order to me in a timely fashion.

we'll see.

•adam•

not to burst your bubble but I ordered an intake over two months( and was charged 5 weeks ago) and i talked to them last week and 3 weeks before that and each time i get the powder coating story... a little honesty (and a price break for waiting what i think will be three months) goes a long way to bringing back customers. Im truing to reach them now to show my overwealming displeasure... if they are receptive i may consider doing business with them in the future.



a.

best of luck to you on your parts racercar...i was told the same thing for months about my strut tower bar was at the powder coating shop and would be any day now...that was over a month ago..i can't even get them to answer my e-mails or return phone calls. there service just sucks..no matter how you put it..i have never delt with a company so piss poor in customer service in my life, i knew i should have ordered from cobb tuning or dan at vividracing..o by the way i am still waiting for my strut tower bar, i really don't expect to get though..thats the way they do business...:mad:

and does anyone know their numer offhand their website is down which is making it diffucult to rip on them.



a.

Sorry these people are really poor. Ordered frt. strut bar and rear swaybar. They said I might have to bend the rear swaybar to fit my 2000 Legacy GT. Told them not to send it. WOW, they sent it anyway and it didn't fit. I paid to return the bar, but still no refund. Can't reach them. Do business at your own risk.

OLD NEWS

JC Sports # is: (720) 898-0948.

That's what I want to say
JC sports is a joke... sorry...

company that had potential to really do great things for the subaru performance market...

too bad their heads arent screwed on straight...

they are totally UNRELAIBLE, dont COMMUNICATE at all...

a very, very poor representation of the subaru performance vendor community...

i would never buy anything from them again...

and i recommend of others not to do so as well.


and if this thread gets out of control, it goes away...

With regret I must also put in my $0.02.

I made several visits to the shop since March and had friendly chats with the guys down there. I like them. :)

So much so that I even chimed in to try and defend them when the bashing was at peak levels for the turbo group buy.

I was warned by disgruntled i-clubbers, decided to give JCS a chance anyway, and now I've been burned. Tried to order some stuff, was charged, and nothing was delivered but excuses. Now I'm just hoping (practically praying) for a refund. This is $2,000 I'm talking about here. Plus interest if I have to get nasty. Nothing personal, just business - and I'm taking it very seriously.

It's been a few weeks since I officially contested the charges and I've been too afraid to check on the refund since then. I am procrastinating because I don't like to get mean. :mad:

My next visit to the shop, if required, will NOT be a friendly one.

Hindsight is 20/20 but lots of angry Subaru owners can't be wrong. Spend your money, time and effort elsewhere.

The real sad part is that I'm local...and I expected more from them based on the experiences of other local folks. OH well! Live and learn. Survival of the fittest vendors - we'll see who lasts. Clearly they are already in financial trouble.

FYI They are on file as not-so-good with the BBB here in Colorado too.

Be Advised and Happy Shopping!

Originally posted by Rexwell
FYI They are on file as not-so-good with the BBB here in Colorado too.

Made me recall that BBB had a website.......

http://www.denver.bbb.org/report.html?compid=28000472&national=Y

Philip

Here is my experience:
Ordered brake lines and front pads & was told all items were in stock and will ship w/in two days. After being charged for both items, I received the wrong pads and was never shipped the lines. After many phone calls, they lied and said that EBC green stuff pads were on nation-wide back order.
I called EBC & asked if this was true. "Nope, I got several boxes in stock."
Called JC back to cancel order and to issue a credit to my CC.
It took my credit union (issuing company) several weeks to get my money back.


To all those ripped off by JC: If you paid by credit card, contact the issuing company ASAP; you can get your $$$ back.
If you paid with a USPS MO, contact the USPS. The USPS can investigate for mail fraud.

Any member of i-Club that continues to do business with JC is a fool.

Paul

Does anyone have the number or website for them?
Thanks,
Pete

www.jcsportsinc.com

From there whois record for their site I got XXX-XXX-XXXX the site has been down for quite some time however...

Brian
http://www.ravensblade-impreza.com
http://www.imprezamods.com
http://www.scoobymods.com
Ph33r me, for I am root

Their having problems with the site right now...

-Will

Was planning on ordering a TCII with my next paycheck. Now I'm definitely becoming a little cautious of them. Hmm...perhaps I'll do a custom 2" exhaust back to the Supertrapp instead. Possibly an intake, but I just installed a K&N about 2 months ago. Oh, well. Such is life.

***!!!!!

Letsee... I help somebody with a problem, and the solution gets deleted

Here's the situation.. another member (not JCS) e-mailed me and said that you posted his # and he's already gotten calls from people asking about JCS..

please double check the # you're posting, because it appears to be incorrect.
~Fishguy

The first number that was posted by North Ursalia. The post
I responded with had the right number but *someone* didn't cover their tracks to well because this is what is in small print on my post "Last edited by Subie Gal on 09-05-2001 at 05:34 PM"

I *may* have posted a 303 area code on the first response (doubtful). However, I can't say for sure since its been deleted.

The number is:

(720)898 0948

-Will

your money is better spent else where..check out the vendor forum to see what is thought of them, check this one out..i order a set of strut tower bars from them on the 8th of may, got the front a month later...still no rear bar and now i am being told finally i will be getting a refund, wonder if that will take 3months to get..ha ha:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

hey Will there babe...

you did post the 303 area code...

dont be so sensitive!!

that's womens work :D

j.
www.subiegal.com

"you did post the 303 area code"
Oh, ok then

"dont be so sensitive!! "
Hey, I'm trying to get in touch with my feminine side.... :p

Just being harsh, 'cause I thought the deletions were because of attitudes towards JC Sports, rather than answer someone's question.



-Will

does anyone know that?

I dunno, the site is down, I've done a few searches, but nothing has come up.
Bry.

good riddance

I don't think so. I just saw the owner yesterday and talked with him. I'm sure he would have said something if that were the case.

Mabe their getting they're act together

Yeah, and maybe the pope will convert to Islam too.

They're still alive and kicking, just having serious web site problems. It will be a couple of weeks before its up and running.

They are having email problems as well

If you need to contact them call

(720)898 0948


-Will

I think they haven't paid the DNS fee, that's why their web site's no longer been on the internet..

The domain was renewed back in January and is good until 2003... they can run their own DNS if it was not included by the company they registered the domain with (namesdirect.com). There is something else going on.

Brian
http://www.ravensblade-impreza.com
http://www.imprezamods.com
http://www.scoobymods.com
Come See The Magic World Inside the Abandoned Refrigerator!

Here's the deal. About 2 months ago I ordered a kit and sent JCsports a money order. I cancelled the kit and they promised to put back that large amount of money on my account. 3 Weeks pass and no charge back to my account. Now, their website is down and I need to reach them. I have called them at least 6 or 7 times asking them what the hell is up. I can't even tell you how pissed I am. I feel like ramming their shortshifter so far up Kevin's ass until he is chewing on the fulcrum ball. Anyways, words can't even tell you how mad I am. I need help, and I need their number fast.

Please tell me who else has been seriously jipped and not been giving money so I know and have you as a reference. I am not blowing this out of proportion until the time comes. Let's put a stop to JCSPORTS period. This is just ridiculous. They can take my money like that, then they say they are too busy and will try to charge my account back.

And for those who have had good business, this is not a mixup or mistake. These guys are crooks and I consider them (edited out... not a good time for statements like this). Aight, peace

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Didn't you know better?:confused:

Good luck. You'll need it.

Chad:cool:

better find a lawyer now.

search the vender forum. plenty of people on this board have been screwed by JC Sports.

Make sure you call them and ask them about it. Then they've committed wire fraud in addition to mail fraud.

"JC sports ripped me off!!!@#@$!" threads are just about as common as "LANCER EVO COMING TO US!!!$&!#!"

Those guys are shady at best.

yeah, even us newbies have been scared away from them

I don't know if this is current, but try
303-428-7707

That is from this website.
http://rice-rockets.com/resources/J/

Hope it helps.
Chad:cool:

All I can say is that something else is going on...

When they're back to life there WILL be some changes on how they handle their inventory and customer ordering.

-Will

The Phone number is

(720)898 0948

-Will

Originally posted by ChosenWon
Yeah, and maybe the pope will convert to Islam too.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


All I can say is that something else is going on...

When they're back to life there WILL be some changes on how they handle their inventory and customer ordering.

-Will

I doubt it. :rolleyes:

Contact the Colorado BBB, the State Attorney General, and the police if you feel like it, though I doubt they'll care, more likely referring you to the previous two offices, or a lawyer.

That is the price of doing business with a den of liars and theives.

They are scum of the earth and have no place in our community.

JC Sports still owns thier domain name, so it's probably just an issue with thier hosting company. Need proof? contact info?

http://www.networksolutions.com/cgi-bin/whois/whois?STRING=www.jcsportsinc.com

It's too bad thier customer service sux, they have the technical skills to be a great source. JC Sports should bring in someone with really good organizational, business and customer service skills to handle the PR portion.

:)

Chad
93 1.8T

JC Sports does not own the domain...

The person listed is not an employee of JC Sports


-Will

I went through the same thing. I had order a IHI ball bearing for my 25rs 4 months ago. I am so busy with the other cars I never got mad. Finally I got the chance to talk to them and they kept putting me off. I finally cancelled mine last week. I put my deposit on a credit card. I haven't checked to see if it is credited yet. Sorry you went through that.:mad:

If you can't get through to the phone numbers above the cell phone number is 720-350-6891

i hated their service...and then their site was down a few times and new numbers...not pickin up the cell phone and not CANCELING MY ORDER

and chargin me twice for it...


STill i m waitin for the refund checks]


i will never be like them
i hope i run them out of business...

Anyone know where to find it? It is not @ jcsportsinc.com anymore?

BLAMO! you no belong here

Maybe they're down because their IP stiffed them?? Just a thought.

All I can say is that they are (obviously) having serious problems with the website. It looks like it may be 2-3 weeks before the site is back up, and JC's have everything straightened out.

If you need to contact them their phone number is (720) 898 0948


-Will

Thanks

I've been trying to get my money back from them for a while.......

i gotta give them a call


thanx


the baron

try to find it at www.switchboard.com

thanx .....:)


u going to gingerman tommorow with us?

probably not.....but we'll see if my schedule permits.....take some good pics though...

Uh oh, another disgruntled customer...good luck.

Well, there goes 15 seconds of my life I'll never recover...

Originally posted by SubEd
Well, there goes 15 seconds of my life I'll never recover...
ehhehe:lol:

1(720)898-0948

i started this post just to say that i got good service and NO I AM NOT A PLANT accurit who just posted will back me, right acc. hehe

Just to put in my .02. I got in there turbo group buy on October 3, 2000. I got out of it when it was taking to long and the lies started.

Well as of today I am still waitting for the rest of my refund! They keep telling me they have no money and if I can just wait till they have more revanew. That is the biggest pile of BS I ever heard.

Well since I'm not working now and I need the money I might take a ride out there and see how bad thinks are for them that they can't send me my money. This is by far the worst company that I have ever dealt with!

Adam

OK, so its not like me to speak out like this (Ya, right!) :D

But since everyone else has jumped in here, I gotta speak my piece as well...

When I first got my WRX, first week of March, I decided to go get a boost controller and have JCSports hook it up. I know some people around here who like them, so I gave it a shot.

So, I rolled up there on a Saturday morning, told them what I wanted, and they installed it. Thats when the problems started:

1. As soon as I was 2-3 miles down the road, I noticed a loud ticking sound from the boost control solenoid. It was so loud I could not hear Eminem rapping on the stereo. So, I pulled over, checked it out, and voila! There was a hole in the firewall where the grommet should have been - they took it out and left a big hole and did not bother to seal it.

2. Driving home, I noticed my car did not feel any different. I jacked it a lot, no difference. Then that evening I was headed out to the store to get some burz and noticed that when I clicked on the left turn signal, the boost controller lost power! So, I drove back up to JCSports the following Tuesday during lunch to have them look at it. Evidently they had it grounded to the turn signal wire and it was causing power loss when it was on. So, we got that rewired and fixed and THOUGHT everything was cool.

3. After the boost controller was back in the dash, John (main mechanic dude) came out to have a final look at the controller before I started home. Come to find out, there were no hoses from the solenoid to the turbo! The boost controller was not even working! So, I had like a $400 boost gauge all that time. No wonder the car didnt feel any faster.

So, the moral of the story is, they dont know what they are doing. I hate it for any unsuspecting fool like myself who goes up there with a new Rex expecting good service and parts.

JaMa

I'm sooo pissed off right now, here's what happened.
I've had my exhaust on order for over 3 months now. I called in everytime it was supposed to be at my door. They always told me 1-2 weeks. I had always taked to Kevin. Then he get's fired or quit or whatever, so the last 3 day's I've been talking to this other guy who took his job. He tells me the exhaust is still under R&D. And it will be 1-2 weeks. Tonight I find out it's Joulle (JC). I wanted some kind of new terms for payment (ie. a % off cuz of all the crap that happened) He recegnises who I am and before I said one sentance he says "I don't have time to deal with you. I have people wanting to spend thousands of dollars. If you want your ****in money back you can have it. Otherwise it's one-two weeks." I told him I used to be one of those people(I actually was), and that I want my money back. I didn't even get nasty with him. Now I have to call back tomorrow and cancel the other order I have with them. I was soo pissed off. Am. Anyway, is there I way I can nail them? Serously, anybody got a friend in the IRS? I'm going to look for the Better Buisness Bureau. PLEASE HELP ME!
Mike

Edit: I just looked and noticed that JC Sports was banned. Thanks mods :devil: Can I ask why?

Let's just say they (Kevin in this case) shot themselves in the foot for the last time. I wish I could find the thread for you where it happened... it was quite entertaining. You can call the BBB, but they already know about them- I'm not sure how much help they can provide you.

Brian
http://www.ravensblade-impreza.com
http://www.imprezamods.com
http://www.scoobymods.com
"Eureka!" may be loosely translated as "Duck! It's gonna blow!"

wow, I'm surprised. I'm assuming the thread was deleated then?
Thanks,
Mike

sorry for your problems. you might be able to get a few other people and have a class action suit filed. i think there are people waiting for their turbo kits for well over a year now


this was the final posting
http://www.i-club.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=67654&perpage=25&pagenumber=1

That's the one! Thank you Tom :D. That's one of my all-time favorite threads other than "turbo group buy closed" ;) :lol:.

Brian
http://www.ravensblade-impreza.com
http://www.imprezamods.com
http://www.scoobymods.com
IClub: It's not just for breakfast anymore!

Legacy GTR - the exhaust that you ordered was for a Brullen right? Well, JCS has to order them from me, as they're exclusively manufactured for me. The were one of the retail places you can get it from. Just as an FYI, they aren't under "R&D", that's done a long time ago. I still have yet to recieve payment for the systems that JCS ordered, so I'm kinda "stuck" with them at the moment (well, only 3 WRX systems left). If you're looking for the unit, just come to me, and I'll take care of things. BTW, I have not received any "order" and or "payment" from JCS for your specific system.

GTBGUY- It was going to be for the Brullen, but then as I was told, JCS had a lot of problems with Brullen actually shipping it to them. So they switched back to there own model. Could you get me one? How much? I'm looking for stainless, mandral bends, 4" tip and either 3, or 2.5" center pipe. Obvously if you can get 3 that would be better. How long would it take? If it will take awhile then i'll probably just get one custom made with my downpipe. Let me know!!!!
Thanks,
Mike

I don't think you would have a problem getting ppl together to bring those guys to court. so many ppl have had problems with them I think they need to go down.
If that guy said something like that to me I would have went off on him..that company needs to be closed.
Keith

yep... start a SUE JC SPORTS thread... and i bet 100's will line up.

they suck...

to all newbies...
AVOID JC SPORTS.....

a lesson learned one too many times i am afraid...

j.
www.subiegal.com

I'm in

They STILL haven't delivered all the Turbo kits from the GB!? What's been going on with that? And who's still waiting for it and hasn't got their money back?

If you used your credit card, call the card's customer service. Be prepared to detail any and all conversations you've had with JCS. Say you're disputing the charges.

Worked for me! Now the problem is between JCS and their bank, not me. I'm still not too happy about giving them a zero interest $2k loan for two months... :mad:

Better do it quick too before they file chapter 11. It might take a near miracle to get your money back if they go bankrupt.

Newbies be warned!!

Cheers!

Thanks Rexwell, it was on my dad's credit card. I'll tell him to do that. I would be soooo happy if they went bancrupt.
Mike

Okay I know Im not the only one with this problem so try and keep all the comments to yourself how I shouldn't have ordered from them. I ordered an intake back in August and I still havent gotten it! I have been trying to be patient but Im getting very angry. Their web site doesnt work anymore, their e-mail doesnt work and they arent picking up there phone. Im very frustrated and was hoping someone could offer me some words of wisdom. My only idea was to call the credit card company and refuse payment.
Thank you everyone. Sorry Moderators if this should be in the Vendor Review Section I wasnt sure :)
Kyle

Go on ahead and call the credit card company to have them stop payment then.

People just don't learn~ :rolleyes:

*Disclaimer: The above comment was not meant as a flame, it was merely a thought that spewed forth...like a brain fart.

damn right, call the Credit card company and refuse payment.
JC Sports is known not to take care of their customers, just refuse payment and buy from a better company. go with cobb tuning or something, they are a great company.
Keith

Now, your an official member!!;)

JC Sports has even been known to screw their own vendors.

ahha thats true, so many ppl here have been screwed by JC sports! hehehe
Keith

Hahaha...yup!! Just take a number, get in line, and bend over!!!:lol:

You will not get it.

Call your CC and despute the charge.

Unfortunately, you live on the opposite side of the country. If you could bang on their door, you might have a chance. Sorry for your loss. :(

Yep,
Just dispute the charge. I waited forever and was never informed there was a problem. You shouldn't try to sell something you don't have. Or put info on website saying we will get you your parts in 2 years. I have delt with larry at imprezars.com and highly reccomend him.

Good Luck!:monkey:

Definitely dispute the charge w/ your CC company. I see nothing has changed...damn shame, he could'a been contender, could'a been somebody. That sux...my JC intake is pretty nice, wish he could have kept up the good work

Originally posted by Legacy GTR
Edit: I just looked and noticed that JC Sports was banned. Thanks mods :devil: Can I ask why?

Hehe...you answered your own question and didn't even know you did it!;)

that is by far one of the greatest threads ever...the rants and scarcasm is like watching a boxing match...grusome, but sooo entertaining!

I just spoke to Larry Ganz, and he told me that as of today, JC Sports is kaput.

Kaput as in bankrupt??? :D Except, that isn't good for y'all trying to get your refunds... guess I was lucky I cancelled my order back in May. Maybe we should take up some kind of collection for all of you that got screwed.

Joe

he just told me that they are out of buisness as of today.

looks like your too late :(
http://i-club.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=93373&pagenumber=4

time to go looting!!! i have a ranger pickup truck that i'll donate to the cause... :devil:

tom

"Did you ever know that your my hero" from whoever sang that song. Now I gotta go see if my daddy got my money back.
10/2/01-what a day.
Mike

Tom are you kidding? To loot that place I'll get a Dump truck, and a tank, and a F-18, and and and and and

One more edit: I just called them it just rings and rings :)

Mike
i dont think my GF would like that.. and your built kinda funny too.

did i mention that the ranger has a 5000 pound towing capacity?? LOL
tom@kartboy.com

Now that's a dang shame.

Yep, it really is.

Now all we can do is talk about how much they did suck.

Oh man have I waited for this day!

They are dead and gone.

Many of you remember my war with them and all the fools who flocked to their support. That legion of fools who swore JCS was upstanding. And here we are a year later and they still have not delivered the majority of the goods and have not paid back the deposites to several who were smart enough to back out.

--- To Kevin, who tried to screw me at every turn: F U

--- To Little Joe, who swore the kit was 100% 100 times: F U

--- To the MODERATOR who called me a moron when I posted the
of the box exposing that JCS had NOTHING and that it was a
scam, on that issue: a very special F U

--- And to all the people who rallied around JCS after they lied
and cheated and stole: F U

--- And last but not least to the GB participants who are $1,000
lighter (or more) that criticized me for pounding JCS so hard
and admonished me to wait quietly and believe everything
that JCS was saying: F U 2


Now so that there are no hard feelings, I wish JCS the best of luck with their new careers!

@




http://www.jiflube.com/images/2d.jpg

wow, can you say bitter man?

Oh no, I am not bitter, I am far from bitter!

I am the VICTOR!

I assure you I am very happy. :) :lol: :devil:

out of business?! whooooooo! is this true??

i mean it's a good thing, BUT...

i'm STILL waiting on a refund or an intake i've been charged for.
i'm still waiting on a replacement for the bad PS pulley they sent me when I ordered a pulley set...

so am i SOL? any way i can dispute this with my bank?? can we all file a class action suit against JC?

(lionel hutz voice)

did someone say SUE?

(/lionel hutz voice)

if anyone decides to take action against them, let me know!!! in the meantime, i'll get on the phone with the bank...

they still owe me a new PS pulley and an intake... :mad:

-adam-

i'm with you guys. they owe me about 2grand. if i can help let me now. in the meantime i'm going to contact my lawyer.
-robbie:mad:

Pipercub, finally someone like you let out the true feelings about JCS. I can't wait to see where they will end up.

Kevin - He will probably end up mopping the floors at some truck stop peep show. I think he is stuck in a sticky situation. :)

Joe - Maybe he will start elementary school and learn the basics again. He needs to learn how to share his toys. Especially parts that we pay for. He should have fired Kevin the minute he walked in the door. Maybe after schooling again and proper business ethics classes, he could learn good business practices from shops like:
1.Cobb tuning
2.Rallispec
3.ISR performance
4.Forced Air Technologies
5.The down to earth (Larry Ganz), who still supported JCS. (Youwere lucky, lol)
6.Minnam (Technick Moterwerkz)
7.B-Spec
8.Redline Motorsports
9.Tom @Ludespeed
10. Irvine Subaru
11. MRT
12. SPO
13. BPM
14. Revolutions Motorsports
15. Renick Motorsports
16. Kartboy Kustomz
17.ASR (Alan and Adam)
18. ----------- I - CLUB-----------
19. any company I missed. Basically, any company other than JCS is a good company. :)
1. and everyone trying to offer new parts for the scoobys.

Erin - Nothing bad to say about her business practices. Hell, she got my money back on the credit card, even after Kevin told me I would get 200 on every day for a month, which still never happened. I just received the money yesterday on the card, and now I find out they are done for good. HELL YEA am I a lucky beeeaaaaaaach. So Erin, you are cool for that. But I still mean what I say about Joe. He let morons run it, so it is 100% his fault.

NOW ME AND PIPERCUB CAN REST IN PEACE WITH THE JCS THING. damn it feels good to let it all out. ahhhhhhhhhhhh. everyone post some stuff and let it all out once and for all. Moderators stay cool on this board and don't delete stuff. Let us do some damage this once. I am sure Imprezer won't mind, lol. He is in the same boat. Peace, Kevin

Is there an official I-club legal department? hehe..that would be cool.:D

Somebody posted in the thread in General (which appears to have disappeared now) that they are actually still around, based on the website http://www.wrxperformance.com - Northglenn Co isn't where there shop was before, was it?

At any rate, looks like they changed the info on the whois record today. Interesting.

We must remain ever vigilant!

is it just me or do they just keep on jacking up the price. the so called "torque chip" was $250 before and now its $300. same goes for the intake and turbo kits. i was considering one of their turbo kits and a torque chip but because of their customer service and the sudden raise in prices i will probably not buy anything from jc sports.

jc sports is now wrxperformance.com

if you click past the 1st page, it even says JC SPORTS INC across the top of the product list. pretty gutsy if you ask me, considering their umm..."reputation".

buyer beware...evil takes on many forms.

I read the posts and drove to CO from MN to visit my sister and buy some parts from JC. I couldn't risk ordering after reading all the posts. Just a few comments though.

I think anyone in a business situation would understand that what JC has done and maybe still doing isn't right and needs to change. Losing customers is a no no, no matter how little. Even if you still have customers that are loyal to you because you placed them first doens't mean you shouldnt' try to fix problems you've caused for others. And I seriously think JC is NOT doing that. They're like " I could care less if you buy from us or not". That's the kind of attitude that will bring down your company. Darn, this is longer than i thought. Anyways, it's just not good business practice :)

But one thing JC does have is knowledge (Oh, and Joe is friendly :) kevin was alright) That might help the company stay a bit longer but with growing disastifaction from customers it's not going to last for long. I think anyone not living in CO or near JC should HIGHLY consider what everyone is saying. How can so many people be wrong, especially I-Club members who are more than the average "car" guy (car=honda to avoid flames). I trust what's being talked about here to a higher degree than anyplace else. So if so many member said JC screwed them, then they had and it's WRONG. Just because you got your part now does not mean you'll be successful the next time. Remember, they aren't doing anything to fix what's happened. More than likely you got your part because it was in stock. If it wasn't you would have been told it be ship tomorrow and your money taken, never to see the product. Just that sentence makes me sick!!!! How can anyone deal with a company like this and why hasn't anyone done anything! (yeah, I saw the other post, horray!).

Anyway...I think a lot of ppl get upset talking about JC even if they want to say good things (like me). It just can't be justified by what they did to so many customers. Think about it...NO IT CAN'T BE JUSTIFIED :)

end.

Fong,

Hey Tom, can I ride shotgun? That shiznit would be fun!!! :D

Hell and I never even ordered from them. :p

-S2-

This is nuts, and confusing. I hope I don't regret posting this (i.e. burning bridges).

By mid September Joe was considering getting out of retail, and doing wholesale only. He asked me, "If we turned over all our retail sales to you could you handle it?" I said "not without help". I seriously considered signing a deal just to get his vendor list so I that could buy more products direct, and taking his web traffic to get enough business to hire someone on payroll (I currently have several suppliers who get a nice % to stock items and drop ship for me).

Apparrently their web designer illicitly hijacked the website and transfered it to himself for unpaid fees. This spelled what I thought was the final death throes of JCS.

Kevin was fired for disagreement with Joe on how to run the business, and believe me, Kevin was actually a "good guy" relatively speaking. I noticed from that point that they were unloading lots of inventory fast, but I wasn't ordering anything anymore, since they missed many deadlines for products promised to my customers in the past.

Then Joe Cox told me on 10/1/01 that JC Sports was out of business, "as of today". I went up there that day to help set kevin up with a car to drive since he had to return the loaner 1998 impreza he was driving that belonged to Joe. I spoke with Joe for about 30 minutes about my suppliers and their plans and vendor prices.

They wanted me to limit who I bought products from to people they approved of and I wasn't going to do that either. It would have also meant agreeing to not manufacture my own products. I eventually turned down the opportunity to take over all their retail sales - because I am not willing to get in bed with them and tarnish my reputation, no matter how much I like them on a personal level. While they are not good businessmen, they have good products and they are very likable guys.

Now it appears they have resurrected JC Sports under the www.wrxperformance.com marque before the ashes are cold. I don't see how they can do this when they owe so many people refunds and/or products. I happened to give them that domain name in January after they did a half price tranny rebuild for me :o

At the risk of hurting my sales I am staying out of this melee and missing out on some great products in the deal. I am taking a sit back and watch stance. If they do the honorable thing and fill the pending orders or refund moneys, I will feel better about having my business associated with them in the future.

Larry
www.ImprezaRS.com
www.SubaruPlanet.com
www.WRX-Parts.com
www.OnlineSubaruParts.com
www.WRX-Impreza.com
and more...

wow

"At the risk of hurting my sales I am staying out of this melee and missing out on some great products in the deal. I am taking a sit back and watch stance. If they do the honorable thing and fill the pending orders or refund moneys, I will feel better about having my business associated with them in the future."


//Mike Meyers mode ON//

Jyeahh, and monkeys will fly out of my butt.

//Mike Meyers mode OFF//


Don't be a damn fool, they aren't going to suddenly cough up refunds, products and appologies. Why don't you choose a side, the right side, and throw your support in with the people they have bilked? Be a man about it.

pipercub, you missed one

...I eventually turned down the opportunity to take over all their retail sales - because I am not willing to get in bed with them and tarnish my reputation, no matter how much I like them on a personal level...

I'm not sure of any other way to retain my integrity.

What would be great for the future customers is if the 3-4 guys who are the real guts of JCS (i.e. John and Joel and Brian) moved into someone elses shop (like SubySports) and had a good business manager run the show like Braden there (he has a business degree). They'd build and install the products for a reputable company to sell, and I'd order from Braden for my customers. I have a life, and don't have the shop location, time or vast amount of customers to finance such a project.

Of course, what would be best for the old customers left hanging would be to have monkeys fly out of your butt, and do it pretty darn soon!! Let's pray, shall we? ;)

Larry

It does not take a degree in business to know how to tell the truth. Joe and Kevin are liars by their own deliberate choice.

FYI, got this note from JC-at the bottom is the e-mail I posted them last week:

To whom it may concern:

As of October 1, 2001 JC SPORTS Inc. is officially closed. This may come as
quite a shock to some and a small celebration to others. We will finally
disclose the events that lead to our downfall and hopefully dispel any
rumors of what some believe to have happened.

This is the short of it. We were discussing going to a wholesale only
system that would allow us to concentrate on research, development and
production. As many of our customers have stated our products are top
notch, they fit, perform, and do everything they are advertised and then
some. However, our customer service and slow production times have been a
large problem. We have great products but we couldn't deliver the goods.
We were very tired of dealing with the public

Before we could begin this plan, September 1, 2001 the person who was
handling our web page decided that he no longer wanted to trade for just
parts. He now wanted money and lots of it. We had never discussed money.
He contacted Kevin Price on September 3, and demanded $12,000.00 cash in 24
hours or he would put a derogatory site up in place of our normal web page.
We do not have that kind of money, and that is not what we agreed upon. He
then refused to put the site back up. That killed our business; we went
from $60,000.00 a month in sales to a negative amount destroying our
relationships with our venders, customers, and employees. JC SPORTS Inc. is
now out of business. We have since closed up shop and are trying to refund
customers that had existing orders with us. If you have not received a
refund at this time you should contact your credit card company and start a
charge back. This took over 5 years to build and only 1 month to destroy.
Closing recommendations are CYA.

We do greatly apologize to all that were caught in this but we are left with
no options at this time.

It has been a pleasure (for the most part) doing business with you.

The employees,
JC SPORTS Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Cassidy [mailto:rovah@mint.net]
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 6:11 PM
To: sales@wrxperformance.com
Subject: Turbo kit update needed....


Dear JCSports,
I spoke with Dustin about two weeks ago regarding my turbo kit. This
is the kit for which I placed a $1000 deposit one year ago.

I asked that he call or e-mail me with updates weekly. He agreed to do so.
I tried to call three times today without an answer.

I've NEVER received a reply to an e-mail to you, except when you initially
asked for my deposit.

I hope that my kit is done. If it is not, then I respectfully asked that my
credit card be promptly credited. If neither scenario manifests in the next
couple of days, then I will contact the Attorney General of Colorado to
lodge a complaint against your company.

My patience is gone and my displeasure is evident.

Please feel free to e-mail me. Call me at home: 207-942-5152 or work
207-945-5247.

Please do not tell me that I'm, "next," on the magical list, or that the
kits are being assembled on the jigs, or that the pipes are getting jet-hot
coatings, or that Joe can't help because he has a new job and I need to
contact him after hours. I've heard it all before.

Kit or money. Simple.

John
--
John Cassidy
Bangor, Maine USA

Last Ditch Racing #912, <http://www.lastditchracing.net>
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what a joke. i posted on the front page of this when it started and i still do not have a part or refund, this should give you a real wake up call to see just how bad there customer service and there business is in general...they suck and would not buy a part from them if they were the last vendor.....:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

I'm in the same boat I placed an order in July for TCII, 18mm Rear Swaybar, 2.5" cat back, luckily I've got the TCII, and a 20mm rear swaybar bar(not what I ordered but it'll work).

The bad part is that they did charge me for the 2.5"cat back over a month ago and still nothing..... so last monday I call the credit card company so I could dispute the charge:p, we'll see what happens.

Michael Myers

Originally posted by aspera
Is there an official I-club legal department? hehe..that would be cool.:D

Alfriedesq is an attorney, anyone else?

Wish I could help. Maybe I can hack their bank accounts, make a nice withdrawl and throw the cash in the air for the i-clubbers that have been jipped! :D

Does anyone have JC Sports phone number?

Check the vendor review posts about JC Sports... this is an oft asked question these days. Gotta love a vendor with the morals of drunken sailor eh? :D

Brian
http://www.ravensblade-impreza.com
http://www.imprezamods.com
http://www.scoobymods.com
Conjunction Junction, what's your function?

it used to be 1-720-898-0948 but i just tried it and it said it is temporarily disconnected. this is not a good thing it's been about 6 months and i still didn't get my clear turn siganl indicators....:(

To whom it may concern:

As of October 1, 2001 JC SPORTS Inc. is officially closed. This may come as quite a shock to some and a small celebration to others.

JC SPORTS Inc. is now out of business. We have since closed up shop and are trying to refund customers that had existing orders with us. This took over 5 years to build and only 1 month to destroy. Closing recommendations are CYA.

We do greatly apologize to all that were caught in this but we are left with no options at this time.

It has been a pleasure (for the most part) doing business with you.

The employees,
JC SPORTS Inc.


(I got this today 10.30.01!)

"one month" ? :rolleyes:

Honestly, I always had great service from them. It sucks that you all had problems, but with my orders they were always very,very prompt and Kevin was very helpful.
adamsrs

This thread is an effort to keep all of the 42 threads of insanity under control in ONE place- please add to it instead of posting all over the board aboooot it ;).

wow i never knew this post would last this long...watch out tho guys, i see the problems w/this company. check out this web site....looks to me like there far from closed www.wrxperformance.com :rolleyes:

wow.... now thats interesting... where did you find the link...