ONLY POLL IF YOU HAVE HAD WARRANTY DENIAL.

So, reading about all the warranty denials from SOA for legitimate transmission failures pretty much gets my blood boiling.. My car runs fine and I don't drive her hard. Though transmission failure still happens with cars and people like me. I love my Subaru but I don't want to get the SHAFT if anything ever breaks..

Just curious and wanting to get some feedback to possibly send to SOA.. Who all would be intrested in fileing a class action lawsuit against SOA for the typical SHAFTING and warranty denial?

Yeah....good luck with that.

High member # - check

WRX - Check

Thread resulting in anything - negative

Driving a WRX like they drove their old Civic LX, check.

n00b posting about transmission problems that largely happen with the '02 & '03 before they widened the gears in '04 - Check

ONLY POLL IF YOU HAVE HAD WARRANTY DENIAL.

So, reading about all the warranty denials from SOA for legitimate transmission failures pretty much gets my blood boiling.. My car runs fine and I don't drive her hard. Though transmission failure till happens with cars and people like me. I love my Subaru but I don't want to get the SHAFT if anything ever breaks..

Just curious and wanting to get some feedback to possibly send to SOA.. Who all would be intrested in fileing a class action lawsuit against SOA for the typical SHAFTING and warranty denial?

*sigh*

Do a search; lawsuits and court cases to this end have already been done or attempted, and they failed or never happened in most cases.

If you don't drive your car hard, then you have nothing to worry about. Upon teardown, whether or not you beat on your car will be plainly evident to the techs. Until that day happens, don't dump your clutch, don't try and do a four-wheel burnout, don't try to force your car into first while you're abouve 10 mph, and don't drag it. Oh, and don't mod it if you're in any way concerned about warranty denial. One thing to consider: if you bought your car used and the previous owner beat the crap out of the car, SOA is within their rights to deny warranty work where the failure is due to the driving habits of the previous owner. Good luck, have fun, and be safe.

I autocrossed my '02 WRX for 2 years before I broke 1st gear.
It was MY fault. I dumped the clutch with a new clutch and should have expected nothing different.

Point being.......what you read on here will NOT always contain ALL of the facts and while the early model WRX's were more prone to failure, it was still the result of abuse not a SOA defect.

Member # don't mean a thing - check "I had a very low number and didn't post for two year and lost it"

Find the post from davenow - check

Subaru will deny a claim if they want - check

My 02' wagon grinded when putting it into second gear, Subaru said this was normal - check

Good luck !!!!!

So, reading about all the warranty denials from SOA for legitimate transmission failures pretty much gets my blood boiling.. There are a fair share of people who tried the "babe in the woods" routine but were eventually found to have left out relevant information about their situation (i.e. modifications and/or past abuse). ......and those were only the ones that had a past post history for proof. As for every other complaint, you have to take the members word that they are being truthful.

I'm not saying legitimate claims/complaints do not exist. In fact, I'm sure they do. However, (as with any car forum) you must take what you read with a grain of salt and remember that you are typically hearing a one-sided view of the story.

most stories on here are just that... stories...

"I was just driving along when..."

Yeah right...

And SoA hears this all the time too and when the truth is found out by either SoA or by a post check on here... Its 99% of the time NEVER a case of "I was just driving along when..."

Good luck!

*sigh*

Do a search; lawsuits and court cases to this end have already been done or attempted, and they failed or never happened in most cases.

If you don't drive your car hard, then you have nothing to worry about. Upon teardown, whether or not you beat on your car will be plainly evident to the techs. Until that day happens, don't dump your clutch, don't try and do a four-wheel burnout, don't try to force your car into first while you're abouve 10 mph, and don't drag it. Oh, and don't mod it if you're in any way concerned about warranty denial. One thing to consider: if you bought your car used and the previous owner beat the crap out of the car, SOA is within their rights to deny warranty work where the failure is due to the driving habits of the previous owner. Good luck, have fun, and be safe.

It's just a poll man...

Douchebag on nasioc- check

It's just a poll man...

Douchebag on nasioc- check

The whole "My blood is boiling!!!" explanation of the poll led me to believe that you were going to take the results of your poll and march into a courtroom and battle Subaru with your righteous anger.

Had you done further research about transmission failures before making your useless thread, you would have discovered:

1. Failures are largely caused by improper modifications and/or improper driving styles.

2. Failures are largely reported on the 2002 and 2003 transmissions. Subaru widened the gears in 2004 and onward to the RA spec. I do not recall seeing any threads about a bone stock '04+ failure that did not involve poor driving style.

3. This place is what we like to call a "message board," which is full of anonymous people who can pretty much post whatever they want. Due to the anonymity, people tend to let their immature side show...kinda like a 2-year old who puts his hands over his eyes and says "Can't see me!" when he's caught coloring on the walls. "My car blew up. LOL IT WAS STOCK! I hate teh Subaru!" Right.

You can call people names, but we have been here forever and have seen too many people who don't do their research before posting. It's annoying, and I'm too old and tired to let my blood boil over something as asinine as making a lawsuit based upon posts I read on a message board.

P.S. Your poll sucks. You forgot to add a ROBOCOP option. I would have voted if I were given the opportunity to vote ROBOCOP. Unfortunately, this is why I did not vote in the last presidential election. :(

Once again, it's just a poll.. I don't have time to internet argue with you.. I did my "research" I knew that transmission failures were more prevelant in 02-03, I also know that transmission failures still occur in the 04-05 models.. It's just a poll, if you don't like the poll get out of the thread..

YEAH and people get flat tires everyday... must be a conspirecy

so people that heavily modify their subarus should be able to file a class action lawsuit according to you? i dont get it. why do you have those options there?

if anything, you should only have a STOCK choice for yes, and a STOCK choice for no. otherwise, if you modify, how can you expect them to cover it? "it dont make no sense..."

since when is 275 crank hp heavily modded? 275 cranks is like stage 2 on accessport. i consider that lightly modded

most stories on here are just that... stories...

"I was just driving along when..."

Yeah right...

And SoA hears this all the time too and when the truth is found out by either SoA or by a post check on here... Its 99% of the time NEVER a case of "I was just driving along when..."

Good luck!

I was just driving the second time mine grenaded, the first time was my fault, but the second time was 5th gear. so "I was just driving along when..."

but either way, its NOT stock. so what would be your case?

This will end well.

From talking with people in person and reading here, it seems that in the vast majority of cases, those who were honest up front and kept their cool, got taken care of...regardless of mods. Those who got all bent out of shape, and those they knew were lying, also regardless of mods, got el shafto.

From talking with people in person and reading here, it seems that in the vast majority of cases, those who were honest up front and kept their cool, got taken care of...regardless of mods. Those who got all bent out of shape, and those they knew were lying, also regardless of mods, got el shafto.

+1 thats the way i look at it when peeps come on my drive.

but either way, its NOT stock. so what would be your case?12345

I never tried to claim it, I knew it was my fault and paid to have it fixed, and this last time i said screw it and am looking for an sti swap.

Who all would be intrested in fileing a class action lawsuit against SOA for the typical SHAFTING and warranty denial?

what are the grounds going to be? I would bet 99.9% of the legitimate claims get covered as they should be... probably a pretty high percentage of those that shouldn't as well...

Nothing, the OP has not had a warranty denial and therefore has no position to be discussing a class action suit. Some people have very valid complaints, the op has nothing.

Ah yes, another case of 6 digit member number syndrome.....

wait, wait. I bet he could argue that SOA's warranty policy and the possibility of denial made him nervous. Even scared of what might happen if the transmission were to develop a problem. Downright terrorized, in fact. I would go so far as to say Subaru participates in "Warranty Terrorism". :gasp:

but fails to realize that if you modify a car... any car... you are changing it from what the automaker had intended... therefore voiding the warranty.

guess its just a scared little n00b.

it's just not fair.


my docter said don't get out of bed for a week. But he didn't tie me down so i did anyway and now i'm gonna sue cause my injury didn't heal right.

yeah you wouldn't think about doing something like that, would ya?

There is nothing wrong with the WRX transmission

Its the drivers that are borked.:devil:

Modded cars break, and when they do it's the modders fault. Its the price we pay to play.
Newbies also break their stock trannies, more than once, just need to learn how to drive on something more affordable.

Bottom line is; If you cant afford to fix something you break on your car then you are probably in the wrong vehicle.

Jay-R (voted "NO")

stop your cry babying you sissy. learn to drive your car and you wont have a problem. this isnt some FWD car that you can dump the clutch in cuz you have two wheels worth of grip which equals a burnout. this is AWD and there are four wheels worth of grip which equals a launch. launching on a stock transmission is a huge task for any AWD car. if i were you i wouldnt waste my time and money.

There are alot of points to be made about the WRX's transmission....

First off, could it be stronger? Sure, as far as AWD transmissions go its one of the weakest availible from any auto manufacturer...

The thing I dont understand is why people think that the transmission doesnt need to be upgraded while upgrading power. If you want to run 600 hp you'll need upgraded engine internals right? Ok so if you want to run 300 + hp you'll need to upgrade the transmissions internals. duuuhhhhh

No one was ever just driving along enjoying life when all of a sudden 2nd gear spontaneously explodes. Yep, I'm saying it...if you want to make you low emission economy car a race car you MIGHT just have to upgrade some parts on it...one of which being the transmission....

OR!!! You could buy Subaru's WRX STI, which is already setup for you to race around like a nut. It wont break on you....

But I guess it is the American way. Having others pay for your mistakes...

This thread should be closed/locked, stupidity is just spewing from it...

As a quick reply to the "noob, you owned a FWD civic, these transmissions on stock hp with a good driver are indestructable, high member #" comments.. THIS IS JUST A POLL!!

All the information needed is in the OP, though I should have included "only post a reply if you have had warrranty problems".. But its ok, If you just feel like bableing on like a junior high girl, create a new thread and do it there.. For the record, I'm sure that their is some fairy boy comeback to this post in a pathetic attempt to defend oneself, on its way..

You are talking about a class action suit, without experiencing any damages. Some people have valid complaints by having failed transmissions, without abuse or aftermarket changes, and they appear to be a very small minority. The rest of the options are flights of fancy, if you think they would have any argument in a court for why Subaru failed to warranty a modified car. From that, it's easy to see this poll has no bearing on a class action suit.

What, no "NO, because I don't have this problem since I don't drive like a n00b" option?

IBtl.

^^^^^^^

"Fairy boy comment"

Read the first line of the OP and there is your answer.. There is no need for your imput on the poll..

Last Resort: I know it is a small minorty, by the results of the poll it is around 26%.. That is why it is a poll.. To gather information.. I know that people with modified cars do not have a valad warranty claim..

Last Resort: I know it is a small minorty, by the results of the poll it is around 26%.. That is why it is a poll.. To gather information.. I know that people with modified cars do not have a valad warranty claim..A poll on the internet means a neither jack nor ****. It's not scientific, unbiased or meaningful in any way shape or form. People cold be lying, pulling your chain, or in some sort of grand delusion. By thinking this poll represents anything, you are participating in mental masturbation.

And if modified means nothing, why ask?

You are whining about "Fairy boy comments", yet come off as a spoiled child.

And if you know it's a small minority, you have to place to be asking about class action suit.

^^^^

Yet another Fairy Boy comment in attempt to regain ones dignity..

Your wasting space on this thread, if you would like to call names and gripe, just PM me, people don't need to waist their time reading your posts..

:rolleyes:

w00t

45k worth of driving like a stoned chimp and my gearbox gave out on Thursday. I pulled it out Friday fully expecting there to be some destroyed gears, nope all the gears are fully intact, centre differential carrier bearing came apart :lol:

My district rep was in there the same day, took a look at it, rolled his eyes and said "if you can't break the gears driving like you do with that kind of power then I don't see how everyone else breaks them"

:lol:

:lol:

That's great.

That's so good, its worth reading twice :-)

My car was stock besides a cat back.. I got the 4th-5th gear grind and was denied. ****ers

My car was stock besides a cat back.. I got the 4th-5th gear grind and was denied. ****ersSTI or WRX?

<~~~ look over there :) STI

<~~~ look over there :) STIThat's what I thought......which means this is useless to the OP. But I have to admit, I thought those things were very hard to damage (carbon fiber gears ;) ). That sucks.

Im going to be honost and say I don't know what "OP" means. And btw, I have an 04 STi, one of the firsts, I have no CF gears :(

OP is Original Poster, and carbon fiber is an ongoing joke.

Instead of bickering perhaps trying to solve the issue of grinding would be better?

My 03 Spec-V had a HORRID transmission and those converts from the Spec-V know this, those who were on b15sentra know my wisdom on the issue. I got rid of ALL the grinding, and 90% of the "notchiness" of the transmission by...

Auto-RXing my transmission
Switching to Specialty Formulations Gear Lubricant
Upgrading Bushings
And driving like a smart boy.

Simply put, we all know SOA watchs this forum, they probably get a laugh outta this. Also try to find something called......a "mod" friendly dealership. My old Nissan dealership was awesome I simply told the service guy my mods, showed a bit of intelligence let him talk down to me and ask him questions about performance parts formed a decent relationship and I got my warranty work covered.

Doing that same process with a Subaru Parts manager now, its not hard. they are people...not robots. Now if something breaks in DIRECT response to a mod or my working on the car im gonna pay outta pocket. but my subaru service manager isn't gonna tell me my CAI, or Exhaust made my weather stripping go out....ya know?

Be straight up, honest and a man about it, and ALWAYS be friendly.

I lost my dignity in this thread. :(

To a n00b. :( :(






Who can't shift. :banana:

OP is Original Poster, and carbon fiber is an ongoing joke.

Damnit, I suck :(

Damnit, I suck :(
:lol: I wouldn't worry about it. At least your not trying to start a suit, without actually have any grounds to do so.

My car was stock besides a cat back.. I got the 4th-5th gear grind and was denied. ****ers


Stop power shifting your gears.... or make sure you engauge your clutch all the way... remember this tranny is not a dog box tranny.

^^^^^^
+1

guy called me up today asked if he put on an external waste gate would that void his warranty... i started to laff (i shouldnt have done that but i recognized this kids voice), i asked what mods did he have... he told me that he had a BOV... i asked if he had a stock turbo he said everything else is stock... said what else.... he said thats it.... I started to laff again. then i told him that most peoples first mods are exhaust and intake.

you can see where this was going... he was concerned that he was going to void his warranty.. people like this really shoulda invested in a kia.