im thinking about ordering a stage one race engine from gruppe-s...has anyone heard of someone or know someone who has ordered a engine or short block from gruppe-s...and has had a problem with it or not?

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i have their stage 1 2.5 shortblock. i just got my car back a few days ago and i have about 90 miles on the new engine. so far it runs perfect

If I were buying a new race shortblock I would buy one from an engine builder, not Gruppe-S.

If I were buying a new race shortblock I would buy one from an engine builder, not Gruppe-S.

So an engine builder doesn't build the motors for Gruppe-S?? Any reason why not to buy one, like known failures or anything of that nature? I have not heard of any issues with their motors.

So an engine builder doesn't build the motors for Gruppe-S??
They use an outside shop to machine, balance and assemble their motors, IINM. Having said that, I've never heard anything bad about Gruppe-S motors either.

I think his point is he'd rather work directly with the actual shop and lead tech that supervises the work and does the final assembly, not a reseller; for actual competition or "race" motors, that's been my personal preference too. Darn few subie engine "builders" do the machine work in-house...that equipment is very, very expensive.

You can always try

www.crawfordperformance.com

You can always try...
Wrong thread.

Gruupe s has some good products from what i have seen

gruppe-s has a good rep i dought they will sell poor quality goods besides Gary is a awsome guy