[flame suit on]

It shows the difference between the typical owner of either a pre-MY02 or a MY02 WRX
After reading various posts in both the "New" forum and "pre-MY02" forum, I have definetly noticed a difference between the thinking of the new WRX owners and the "others". It seems that the WRX owners talk down to people more and don;t have as good of a time as us old-skool (Yes I know it is spelled wrong) 2.5RS owners and owners of cars even older than that.

The "typical" WRX owner seems to me to be more educated (in other words, holds a higher degree) than us as a whole and seems to look down on other cars and people more often ( :( ) and think that there car is better than anything on the road. An example is how frown upon the RSX Type-S. I personally think it is a great car (As do most old-skool owners). Maybe it is just because the WRX owners make more money on the whole as Pre-MY02 owners but who knows. Don;t ask me why but they remind me of BWM 5-series drivers.

What do you other Old-skool drivers think? You think we have more fun and are more easy going?



Eric

generally it seems to be a case, because the WRX actually packs performance visibly and reaches the mass of people better (and usually they are the people looking down other cars because they think they have got the best). I would say the ratio of non-iClub vs iClub ppl is higher with the WRX than the GC8 RS (as in more ppl owning the car but not involved in iClub). I haven't personally meet a lot of WRX drivers (met one, our own Orbiter), so I couldn't say. I like good cars, regardless of brand, and I am sure a lot of us do too... as you say, typical profiling seems to be true for the GDA crowd vs GC8 crowd.

On the other hand, if I were given more money, I might have jumped to other cars, and the story would be totally different, wouldn't it? Nah..... I like the agressive look of the GC8, and with a good AWD in place, nothing that money can't fix :lol:

[rant mode on]
from what I have experienced both on the board and in peronal experiences...WRX sometimes are a bit cocky and like you said tend to talk down to others....take for example to the countess deleted or locked threads about GDa vs GC8.....they are always comparing the two and saying the WRX is better, faster, and more fun to drive. These are apples to oranges...its like comparing the STi to stock WRX....more power, but also more money. you can't compare the two, yet the WRXers like to do so (GDA vs GC8). they are always talking about how it is better than anything and usually wont cede to a "better" car.....the way I see it, both cars are a great deal for the money, but they cant beat everything on the road. I can always say that another car is better than mine, but some WRXers don't seem to do so.

[rant mode off]

I have always liked hanging out with the suby crowd here in austin, they are all mostly laid back and know quite a bit about cars. most of us here are enthusiast and like the suby community. old schoolers are generally friendly and knowledgable. I just think the WRXers are that way because they are jealous of our body style (:D :lol: sarcasm of course)

Andres

eric you know i am down with ya....alot of hte WRX guys in our area are VERY cool, but lately there have been alot on NON i-clubbers coming around that ARE lookign down at others...the famous words "why didn't you get the WRX"....this may sound bad but the old skool guys are more or a cult and a close bunch of friends and VERY laid back. I think it's cause we know our cars are slow but we have fun with them anyhow. Can't wait to go out on an Auto-x course and show these guys how it's done. But yes we are definitely more of a relaxed group in the whole.

Jeremy

Oh and yes...cannot compare the WRX to the RS....but i guess they forgot if it wasn't for our car their's wouldn't be here ;)

The Impreza is like a nice little secluded restaurant that sells the best tacos in the world. You don't want too many people to know about it or they will become bad. (Well, in the US anyways).
Before it was, "Wow, what kind of car is that?"
Now it's, "Is that the turbo subaru from the commercial?"

Personally, I'm getting a little bored about it. :rolleyes:

-Vic

listen to this. I went to go spectate the last auto-x, and I parked next to a WRX whose plate was like.. QCK WRX.. or something like that. I looked over at him to get some sorta acknowledgement or to wave or something. He wouldn't even look at me. sonuva@#$@ I was like aite homeboy. I will rip you a new one around the cones, and if it weren't for me, yo little car wouldn't even BE here in the first place. All in all, I've only met 2 cool WRX owners. The rest has either been car-illiterate morons who will end up killing themselves in their new beast, or just straight douche bags. (am I allowed to say that here?)

DoN

whats a wrx?

:D

I know plenty of cool WRX owners, but most of them previously owned RSs, or had been around the Subaru scence and i-club for a good while. Wedge hit it right on the head, when you have something as niche as the Impreza, and then you get a cult following together (i-club), of course there's going to be apprehension when the cult is infiltrated be people who are not as devoted.

The WRX is a double-edged sword. It's good because it gives Subaru a market presence, and that leads to more better stuff coming our way, like the STi. It's bad because it gets attention, and more attention brings more people. The wrong kind of people and the right kind.

My RS was recently totalled, so now is the perfect opportunity to get a WRX. Am I going to do it? Did the thought even cross my mind for a second? Hell no. There are several reasons:

1. The new body style is ugly as sin.
2. I wouldn't trade the EJ25 for anything, especially with the amount of work I was planning to put in it.
3. I wasn't ready to lose my car. I loved it and it was going to be a long term project.
4. The RS is now, more than ever, an extremely unique car to own.

That's why I'm buying almost the exact same car used (and driving it back from Seattle). Long live the RS!

Now thats dedication Swaya. And definitely a good decision based on better taste.

Ripper

the GC8 vs GDA bit... i think it's a complex.... we beat them to the performance subaru punch... and they don't want to admit it... :D

The MY02 WRX owners i've met are really pretty nice... especially since they're outnumbered by GC8s were i meet with other scooby owners... so i don't really mind them flaunting their turbo goodness... i just point to the GC8's and say they started it all...

The WRX is a double-edged sword. It's good because it gives Subaru a market presence, and that leads to more better stuff coming our way, like the STi. It's bad because it gets attention, and more attention brings more people. The wrong kind of people and the right kind.

and i couldn't agree more... i really don't want to rip on it... but i see more, "how do i get my WRX into the 13's??" than anything... i've never dragged... and i don't think i ever will... if i want to drive in a straigh line... i'll go on a highway... i prefer the real skill in auto-x... where it's not all HP and reflexes...

i'm glad i got a RS... it was all pretty much luck... and i don't think i'm going to get rid of it for a long time... that and i don't want to even THINK of what insurance would be like for me in a WRX... through the roof...

AJ

welll i think i proved today that horsepower and newness don't make you the fastest...i took out quite a few WRX's in out Rally-X today it was my first time running my car in any kind of event. i placed 4th on my class of 25 i think it was. Not bad if i do say so myself. All in all it was a great day...and yes i see more and more how can i go 12's in my WRX then ever.

Jeremy

Originally posted by HndaTch627
welll i think i proved today that horsepower and newness don't make you the fastest...

I learned this when we all got the *crap* beat out of us by the rallycross "guy" driving a nearly unmodified Ford Festiva (that's right) at a rallycross in Texas. I don't even want to know how he would have done in his WRX.

It goes to show you that no matter how fast your car is, you are not fast unless you know how to drive it.

It is amusing to see the contrasts in the club and the membership the last few yrs.I agree almost totally with all you guys have said.
But my two main points would be,the old skool exsperiance,,,,,usaully knowledgeable about Subaru as a whole,friendly,eager to help each other out,and more into havin fun with the car rather than,the look what i got crowd(wrx).Hell,some of them are learnin to drive a stick in there new WRX,then they complain about the transmission?? lol
Secondly,the RS is unique,Subaru was testin the performance waters here.They came up with a body style that even the RX crowd agrees is definately something different.(Aggresive)And there aint that many around not like the rx which is just starten its run.So the RS will always be a classic to the true Subaru fan,theWRX will be somethin Subaru made in between the 2.5 RS Impreza and the hopefully soon to be released limited production run of the STI version,,BOTH destined to be classics! lol
Let the flames begin,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Rudy:D

Originally posted by jagcars26

Let the flames begin,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Rudy:D

why would we flame on you??? WE ALL AGREE WITH YOU!! at least us cool old school guys do.

Andres

my little bro hates the WRX now that he's driven my car and seen the WRX...he wants an STi....seems i have taught him well. he was amazed how many of my friends are guys he was friends with at his work. HAHA!! what small scooby world we live in!!

jeremy

Originally posted by Imprezinator
Don't ask me why but they remind me of BMW 5-series drivers.


:lol:

Easy on the generalizations there man! I was almost tempted not to post here in the 'old school forum' for fear I'd be shown the door. :eek: Either that or be asked to provide prior evidence of membership in the BMW Club of America. :)

David

I hated seeing my RS go. I traded it in, in major part to get my wife a wagon and myself a turbo. Looking back on it I wish i still had my RS. Not that i don't like the power or the performance of the wagon, but the RS was unique and less people knew about it.

On the other hand, i rarely get a wave back from any rs or wrx owners. Maybe they don't see me or I just don't wave frantically enough.

Also i don't think that is old school/new school buyers, i just think it is personal attitude. I try not to look down on others b/c of my car but sometimes i am just as much an idiot like that also. I even do it in my "rust bucket" at winged/kitted out cars. I guess it is a matter of your overall personal attitude, I am just glad and happy that i can afford a wrx in today's economic down turn.

I've got an RS and I still look down on all of you. :devil:

ben that's cause you an ass!!! j/p man :lol: :lol:

Jeremy

i would just like to say ive seen the same things you guys have noticed.

Yep, me too...

I love the GC8 body! and i think lots of people in the US see the commercial and think "WRX... cheap, fast car..." and then they go racing in it... I haven't had more than 4 GC8's look at me like i'm crazy when i wav to them.. but i've had near 13 or 14 wrx owners just ignore me or give me the :rolleyes: look or the :confused: look....

Yeah, Old School!

-Gagan

Originally posted by Imprezinator
The "typical" WRX owner seems to me to be more educated (in other words, holds a higher degree) than us as a whole and seems to look down on other cars and people more often ( :( ) and think that there car is better than anything on the road.

Too bad that most degree-holding people don't know anything without experience, which is what we have the most of.



Q: How many WRX owners does it take to replace a light bulb?

A: 12. 1 to post about it, 6 to troll that they are looking for the same information, 2 to whine that Subaru made something wrong because it's not like a Honda light bulb, and 3 to flame and scream "RICE!" at that last person. But how does it really get changed? An RS owner comes along and is sick of seeing them all be so stupid and does it themself. ;)

Ok, sorry, low blow. Truce, all :)

Q: How many WRX owners does it take to replace a light bulb?

A: 12. 1 to post about it, 6 to troll that they are looking for the same information, 2 to whine that Subaru made something wrong because it's not like a Honda light bulb, and 3 to flame and scream "RICE!" at that last person. But how does it really get changed? An RS owner comes along and is sick of seeing them all be so stupid and does it themself.



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

OMG, I think I'm going to cry from laughter here...

No offense to WRX owners who aren't like this, but it's amazing how many are.

You guys think you have it bad... think about how often I get asked "Why didn't you get a WRX". :rolleyes:

I think the next time I beat a WRX at autoX I'm gonna ask him "Why didn't you get a 2.5RS".

At least you should be happy you have a crowd to belong to... us '02 RS owners are definately subpar in most WRX owners eyes but we still have the "ugly" body that gets no love from the old skooler's either.

karl you guys are always welcome on our side....sucks when you have an addiction to torque and a car that drives nicely from idle to redline cause then people always question why you didn't go with the big money car.

Jeremy

I wouldn't say that the 02 RS gets no love from us, it's the underappreciated, truck-motored descendant of our cars.. It's the same deal that we have to put up with.. It's just those damn bandwagon WRX owners that I don't like.. Lets say you had an old RS, or even some other Subaru, then you bought a WRX.. Well that's one thing, but if you're one of these rich kids who's parents bought them a WRX because you "had to have one" then that's the kind of crap that pisses me off. Just watch, as soon as the EVO comes out in the states, there's going to be a bunch of those kids selling their WRX's to get EVO's because that will be the cool car for the moment.. A Subaru isn't just a car.. It's a friggin way of life, you cannot escape. All your car are belong to us..

nicely put alan

Jeremy

Come on Ulee, your car isn't ugly, it's just missing a hood scoop! :)

Just put on the autobahn album and everything will be ok, BTW, can you come over and fix my cable? "Mina dispatchen send me to fix dina cabl. That's why they send me, I am expert.

I suppose that I should leave before I get flamed and labeled as a stupid bandwagoner :lol:

You're not a bandwagoneer if you're a car guy and not just a stupid ricer kid who wanted a WRX so he could beat his buddies with Si's in street races..

But that's exactly why I bought my car! :D

BTW, I still have yet to smoke an si. haven't raced one yet...

:) Well alrighty then! I still kind of doubt it though..

Of course I'm only joking. Also, thanks for the confidence inspiring thoughts. :)

Godmal you can't get flamed in here...you work on Bimmers all day...i work on Honduh's all day. You bought a NICE car to drive... you don't roll around town staring people down and looking to race. Every time i get around some kid the question is...wanna race?? it's like yeah, come to my course...then we'll see who wins. Just like i disagree with SCC letting Popadockis(spelling??) pilot cars around a road course....ANYONE can drive a car in a straight line...the question is can you drive it just as fast ina straight line and tuck it into a turn controlled w/o losing speed?? I THINK NOT!! Sorry i used to be a real straightline boy...bu tmy question is if these guys are such good drivers WHY are they not working on multi-million dollar Top Fuel car teams yet for small import company teams.....anyhow.../end rant

Jeremy

Damn straight! Why aren't they out bashing around in the dirt with someone else's RE92's!??;) J/K man.. I agree though. Drag racing? Riiiiiggght.. Wheel straight, right foot down, brake, repeat. How hard is is? I have a friend who races a GTi, and I give him hell all the time for being a drag racer.. Of course, it's a high 13 second N/A 2.0l, but that's not the point.

speaking of dirt, that is another thing, ive noticed.....most of us GC8 are always happy to see some mud or reason to go off roading.....at least I always do, and i also get paid for it. The WRX look at you like you're crazy...
"what the dirt I dont know....I dont think the car can handle it....its not made for that.....you shouldn't ever take your car offroading..."
its based on a freaking rally car!!the suspension is not set up to handle hard offroading, but it can handle the occasional venture in the dirt and its fun as hell....they just think they're car is to good and dont want to get ti dirty...now this is most not all Rexers..

Andres

Originally posted by ATX25RS
speaking of dirt, that is another thing, ive noticed.....most of us GC8 are always happy to see some mud or reason to go off roading.....at least I always do, and i also get paid for it. The WRX look at you like you're crazy...
"what the dirt I dont know....I dont think the car can handle it....its not made for that.....you shouldn't ever take your car offroading..."
its based on a freaking rally car!!the suspension is not set up to handle hard offroading, but it can handle the occasional venture in the dirt and its fun as hell....they just think they're car is to good and dont want to get ti dirty...now this is most not all Rexers..

Andres

I was at the Rally-x in Fairlee, VT, earlier this month and saw more WRXs racing off-road than RSs, so maybe you need to come up to New England instead. :)

Also, I'm not sure what Subaru owners are like down where you live but up here, everyone just seems to get along. Based on my own experience, all this "us and them" stuff seems made up to me.

Me? I'm here for the Subie experience, man! Screw what model you own. :cool:

Subie peace and love to you all.

David

I thought they picked on me because I bought a RED one... Up here, you can't give away a red Impreza...

Originally posted by Bradus

Also, I'm not sure what Subaru owners are like down where you live but up here, everyone just seems to get along. Based on my own experience, all this "us and them" stuff seems made up to me.

Me? I'm here for the Subie experience, man! Screw what model you own. :cool:

Subie peace and love to you all.

David

Yeah, I am SO tired of people asking me why I didn't get the Audi...
Originally posted by HndaTch627
karl you guys are always welcome on our side....sucks when you have an addiction to torque and a car that drives nicely from idle to redline cause then people always question why you didn't go with the big money car.

Jeremy

What? You didn't know we could read this forum too??

Yup, us old skool peeps are mad close. j/k We are all united an I think more laid back than some WRX drivers. I know a few rex drivers that just bought the car and don't know it's heritage, or anything else. They just wanted a fast car. They don't appreciate or deserve what they really have, a truly unique and special car.

-Jason

The RS maintains its cult status, which is probably why GC8 owners are different than newbie WRXers (I'm not including those that stepped up from an RS to WRX in that generalization).

Face facts, the Impreza is no longer a cult car, how can it be?

They made almost as many WRXs in ONE YEAR as there are 2.5RS's around from 4 years of production.

yea, people wont ever understand the RS. most of the time, you need to be a subie fan in order to pick it out of a line up.

to pick a WRX out of a line up, you just need to watch tv for an hour or 2,and youll see the commercial.

my dad drives the RS, its got tinted windows, nice wheels, and a loud exhaust, w/ a coupe wing on the back, so it looks like a JDM wrx. and its the only RS for MILESSSSS. if another snooty WRX owner tries to nod at my dad, or wave, or honk. my dad will just drive on past w/o a look, and make that WRX owner think that 2.5RS owner look down on THEM! hehe.

it sounds like the WRX is going to attain Civic status, or eclipse status. where, any moron w/ 25k can have a nice WRX. before, you had to be an enthusiast to know about the 2.5RS and the WRC. thats why us old skoolers are so close. after the WRX came out, i noticed a HUGE influx of newbies w/ WRX's. and their new-ness shows big time. i know when I was new, i never made the kind of comments that most of those fools make now.

btw, the ONLY commercial i have ever seen for the 2.5RS, was the spiderman spinoff commercial. and that was a LONG time ago. it showd a guy driving thru down town on wet roads, and passes a cop car parked on a side street. the cops are like 'Whoa' and the pull out and try to follow the RS, and then the RS ducks into a dead end ally and "disappears" the cops drive to the end of the ally, get out, look around and think "where'd he go?" and the next shot is of the AWD 2.5 RS stuck on the side of a building, 4 stories up, and the guy in it has a sly grin on his face. i wish i could see that commercial again.


chris

... i cant belive im an "old skooler" now, even with a MY01... im 20, and i have a complex already...

am i that old?!

Originally posted by WRXster

What? You didn't know we could read this forum too??

i am confused??

Stands up and waves from the back.....please don't exclude us original WRX models!!!!!!

Hey I have no prejudices what cars you lot drive :D We are all scoob fans and that is what counts right?

for real, lets put this all in perspective! does my subaru beat my best friend jordan's civic?

Drag Strip: Yes
Track: Yes
Pick up chicks factor: Yes

w00t, this is almost as good as a 1-2 finish for the wrc team! :lol:

and hey, remember no matter what, we all had the common sense to buy subaru right? who said "great minds think alike"? because i'm not a genius, but i'm glad to realize i was smart to avoid front wheel drive!!!

LMAO!!! yeah....scoobies rule!!

Jeremy

I am completely confused as to the constant comparisons that people make on this board to BMWs and BMW drivers. I am a card carrying member of the BMWCCA and I take exception to people constantly using BMW cars and people on the bad side of an analogy.

Let me say this one more time. I would guess that a higher percentage of BMW owners are enthusiasts than are Subaru owners. We of course have to exclude old-school 2.5 RS owners from the mix as we are obviously more intelligent, better looking and darn it chicks just dig us. However, if you are going to make vague generalizations then please keep in mind that 99% of the Subaru owners in New England are NOT enthustiasts. They just wanted an inexpensive AWD vehicle for winter.

And the next time you think the guy next to you is driving an old-man car, you better look for the four tailpipes because he may be driving a monster of an M5.

Old-School!

I think the generalizations made about BMW owners tend to come from what you see in urban areas like here in downtown Chicago. I would say the 95%+ only have a BMW for its name. My friends sister lives in the city and her and her husband pull down close to if not 7 digits a year. They were looking to replace their passat that got rear ended, and he wanted an audi allroad. She didn't just becaus eit did not say BMW and she felt Audi did not have the proper image she wanted. Again I think this type of thinking is more among your late 20's to mid 30's urban yuppies who just see the car as a name. I would still like to thank the guy in the M5 one day though that complimentet me on my car this summer. I want to trade with him :)

On the topic of old school versus new age (drivers, not the cars)

I can only speak from my own experience in the Portland area
but almost without exception every other single WRX I've encountered on the road either just ignored me when I waved or gave a thumbs up, or barely acknowledged me. I don't even bother any more.

The few 2.5RS's I've seen usually wave back or honk the horn.
However one of the worse pricks I've encountered was in a nice 2.5RS and I know he's on I-club :)

Anyway I'm one WRX owner with lots of love for the old school impreza's (and their drivers... for the most part)

See, that's the spirit!! If only we could get the rest of the WRX guys to go along with you.. I don't know, it just seems to me that the WRX guys aren't "car guys". They're "import guys" who just want the newest and coolest import car on the block. How many of them owned Si's before they got their WRX? Hell, how many of them bought (or were given) a WRX as their first car? There was a new WRX owner somewhere here (I can't remember where right now..) who asked if he should pull over every so often to let his car rest because he's going on a "long" drive (6 hours or so?). If you ask me, that guy didn't even know what Subaru was untill 9 months ago. He's probably one of those idiots that thought Subaru was an Australian car.. Then all of a sudden, there's a Subaru (besides the outback) on TV and it's popular with all the rice kids. I just hate nearly anything that's popular, if it's mainstream, it's bad.. However, I love the WRX, and I will have one, but I'm not in any hurry to go "new school" just yet.

i am with cd3575(chris) on the possible reason that BMW drivers get the "bad rap" in this area.....being in the NW burbs of Chicago and near the VERY high priced NW burbs in chicago, i can not tell you how many punk kids get M3's cause their parents want to make them happy. I work right next door to the dealership and i as well as one of the tech's are probably joining the BMWCCA cause the guys he works with are all in it and they kick ass. But in this area for the most part there are ALOT of punks with M3's that think they are all that cause they can go in a striaght line real quick.

I love when i honk and wave and get NOTHING!! i've had like 10 WRX's do this to me already....never once have i had a guy or girl in an RS not honk or wave back. But i have already had 20 people in wrx's wave back. I dunno we are in a mainstream area....now all the special orders are filled so they have a stock to sell and they are selling to the first bidder. The WRX is a great car with quiet a few great owners, but like everything else, it's the few idiots that really make it stand out from the croud.

jeremy

muhahaha...i am OLDER SKOOL THAN ALL OF YOU! :lol:

seriously though, when i bought my car, NO ONE even knew what an impreza was. "it's a subaru," i'd reply.

"they still sell cars in the US?" was the usual response. or, "a supra?"

now every time i'm at a light, every single honda owning jackass wants to race, since apparently all imprezas that aren't outbacks must be WRX's. right.

then you've got all the guys that sold their Si's to buy WRX's flooding the board asking how to get their car into the 10's, or where they can find WRX altezzas.

face it, the unwashed masses are heading into our sacred territory...play nice, kids.

-adam-

I think that it's terribly unfortunate that BMW's get that rep.. I love BMW's, I always have.. I always said that if I ever got rich, I wouldn't be the guy who goes out and buys a bunch of Ferraris and Lamborghinis, I'd have a 355 and about 4 different BMW's.. I couldn't care less if they said Hyundai on the grille, as long as it's the same car.. Here in Rock-bottom Illinois, the hillbilly capital of the midwest, not many people own a BMW, if you do, it's assumed that you're a snob. When I was in high school, I used to drive my dad's 540 to school all the time, I never really thought too much about it, but evidently, that made me a snob.. How does that work? I didn't get it then, and I don't get it now.. The unfortunate fact of the matter is that too many people have to buy expensive cars with prestigious names to make them feel good about themselves

I know what you guys are saying. I went through the exact same thing on the Club B5 and POW. All of the old school Passat owners said the same thing. Now the B5 owners are doing the same thing to the B5.5 owners. It is a fact of life...CHANGE. When a company gets it right and attracts people to buy their cars this kind of stuff happens. It sickens me to see some people driving a WRX just as it sickens me to see some drive the Passat B5. Alas, it is their money so they can drive it.

I purchased my WRX based on Auto-X experience and I wanted a competitive car that has some practical application too. (Had to sell the wife on the car too) I have experienced the reverse effect from Old-School Impreza drivers. They looked down on me too. Until I drive at the Auto-X anyway. Once they saw that I was a trophy contender then they softened a bit, but not much.

Not all of us new WRX owners are shallow. I won't be shallow unitl I get my STi......JUST KIDDING!!!!!

Dave

Well, here is my problem I guess I feel a bit left out... I don't seem to get much respect form either group. The problem? My age, I assume. Let me share my story with you. Three years ago I was enjoying some late night speedvision when I caught the end of a world rally program. I was amazed and instantly fell in love with the sport and the cars. I started searching for things online about the WRX and EVO's and ran across some info on the new RS. AT this time, I could not drive but my father was looking for a new car. I tried and tried to convince him to purchase an RS but he ended up buying a VR6 GTI instead. I decided that if he wouldn't get one, I would. I worked several jobs through the following three years until this last summer I purchased a used 99 RS. I am only seventeen. My parents were generous enough to give me a thousand dollars towards my car, but I would have to make up the rest. Except for that thousand dollars I am paying for this car myself. I think most people assume mommy and daddy bought me my shiny girl getter/ image enhancer... but that is not the case. Unlike most kids my age, I dont parade my car up and down main st every night, i don't race everyone I line up with, and I am not interested in getting neon lights and ten fifteens in the trunk. I enjoy my RS for what it is, and take pride in the fact that I am buying it myself. I just wish I could get a little more respect and not have everyone assume I just bought it just as another sporty import, but that I do actually appreciate the uniqueness of the RS. So what does this have to do with the WRX? Well, Not too much, just that I feel like I am getting associated with the bandwagoners and drag racer types I guess. Oh well... Sorry for the long rant. But I do feel better. Good night all
-Brandon

Thumbs up Surboo.

As for topic, the GC8 just friggin rocks.
*And this thread just brings tears to the eyes*

Most of the WRX owners Ive met in person have been cool,
but for the few that have been otherwise http://www.freakygamers.com/smilies/s/otn/funny/moon.gif.

_paradigm

I love my 2.5RS.

Boy, you can really feel the love over here. What's RS?

bbrewer....most of us like th emajority or WRX owners....we are merely discussing the shift in attitude that the i-club has expereienced since hte release of the WRX.... some of hte wrx guys from out area(don't think i've met you yet) are totally cool and i love hanging out with them. But some of them i'd rather not deal with....i'm not all about messing with people stop light to stop light, i have seen people get huirt way to many times doing stuff like this and i myself was run off hte road by a couple of street racers last winter.

Jeremy

What I don't get is no one on the "new age" board is trashing RS owners or their interests so why is it going on here?. Because they don't think the car should go fast in a straight line? I guess we should all just stay in our own little boxes.

Surboo, we must be related or something, i just turned 19, and i have wanted a impreza since i was 14. I saw the 555 wrc car at an auto show, and they had a little tv running a video showing off everything about the car and had tons of footage of the car being drifted, power slid, and getting some insane air. I worked 2 jobs for 3 years untill i built up enough money to put down a fat $8000 on a used 2000, my parents didn't help me with the money, but they helped me secure a loan for the rest, and that is probly the best thing they have ever done for me! =) I tottally feel you on the whole "mommy and daddy bought it for him" bs. i get that all the time. I'm also glad to see at *least* 3/4 of us rs owners are true enthusiast, it's all about the car, not the image.

I don't think it's a matter of "bashing" WRX owners. For me at least, it's mostly a bemoaning of the "good old days". It seems as though a large number of WRX owners just aren't enthusiasts, which is unfortunately to be expected when a car becomes a success like the WRX has.

Due to the limited production of RS's and their quirky performance nature, it was never a car to have just because it's the cool thing. So those that did (do) have one are generally the more enlightened type of enthusiast.

That's not to try to disrespect those WRX owners that actually know about the history of the Impreza and are into what it represents.

It just seems that the roar of the mooing herd drowns out those of you who actually do have a clue.

But if you look at many of the older threads like "what other cars have you owned" it seems that many of the WRX owners have a pretty good sports car pedigree. WRX does seem to attract a young crowd and they get abit frisky on the boards but hey, enthusiasm is what matters and they have that.