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Kn0x
12-18-2006, 02:58 PM
I am thinking of changing the stereo in my 07 impreza, I am not looking to spend a whole lot of money at this point. (less than 500 with installation) But I would like my setup to be upgradeable in case I decide to go bigger in the future.

I was looking at changing out the head unit and the two front speakers.

A couple questions:

I was looking at this head unit
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-WuMMUXoN07P/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=300&I=500CDA9856
Any input on this?

And I was looking for recommendations on speakers.

Do you think I need an amp?
Do I need to do anything with the rear speakers?

Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

02BlueSuperRoo
12-18-2006, 03:10 PM
Just as our help is greatly appreciated by you, you searching for answers to your questions is greatly appreciated by us.

kthks

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/search.php?searchid=6627652
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/search.php?searchid=6627660
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/search.php?searchid=6627666

3 searches, 1 minutes 35 seconds, all your answers and more!

Tang 06 i wagon
12-18-2006, 04:35 PM
Suggestions

"Reccomendations" (spelled wrong I might add, but it seemed to yield a ton of results anyway)

Advice

I suggest the advice of reccomending you to the search tool.

02BlueSuperRoo
12-18-2006, 04:54 PM
Ha ha, I even got 8 results with recommendations speeled wrong. ;)

Here it is spelled right.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/search.php?searchid=6628725

snorekl
12-18-2006, 05:40 PM
:p Since the other guys are so mean and won't answer questions...........

That Alpine HU is nice and will give you a lot of control for future options (3 preamp outs, crossover, time correction, ipod control, sat radio).

Speakers - too subjective. Listen to a bunch and then leap. 6.5" components in front and probably none in the rear.

Amp can come later, but most people here would say YES for power and clarity. Run the new speakers off the HU for a while.

V6TurboTA
12-18-2006, 05:43 PM
bleep blooop bleeeeeeeerrrP

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showpost.php?p=16297856&postcount=7

~v6

snorekl
12-18-2006, 05:44 PM
;) Mean spirited at X-mas time

Kn0x
12-18-2006, 06:27 PM
Where did I spell recommendations wrong?

That's what I would like to know.

Aside from that, I posted this while I was at work where I really didn't have time to wade through search results seeking specific information about a head unit and the questions I asked.
But I am familiar with the search tool and use it often.

I am sure obtaining search results doesn't take very long (1 minute 30 seconds, okay!) but as we all know, actually reading each individual thread and hoping for some remote connection between that thread and the answers I am seeking takes a lot longer than that.

And never mind the fact that the few of you who searched the archives and posted the results into this thread took just as much time as you answering my question probably would have.

Thank you to the guy who responded.

02BlueSuperRoo
12-18-2006, 11:37 PM
Where did I spell recommendations wrong?

That's what I would like to know.



Easy there hotshot, there's only room for one gunslinger in this town.







:huh:

I speeled it rong, not jew.






Thank you to the guy who responded.

You must be referring to me as I was first to respond. In fact, I linked you directly to like 60 potential threads for you to check out. I assume you've read them all by now?







Que?






:banana:

Kn0x
12-19-2006, 01:51 AM
Easy there hotshot, there's only room for one gunslinger in this town.
:banana:

Aww shucks. I had my t-shirts printed up and everything.
Milwaukee Gunslinger #1.

Sooo, Wanna buy some t-shirts? :D

khail19
12-19-2006, 01:52 AM
That Alpine HU is nice and will give you a lot of control for future options (3 preamp outs, crossover, time correction, ipod control, sat radio).


There is no time alignment or crossover control on the 9856. New Alpines suck for features.

snorekl
12-19-2006, 10:20 AM
I stand corrected. I looked up the specs for some unit but it wasn't the 9856 apparently. That might change my recommendation - no TA, no crossover control and no EQ. Maybe a similarly priced Eclipse or the Alpine 9860 but you still wouldn't get Crossover function.

02BlueSuperRoo
12-19-2006, 10:41 AM
Kenwood KDC-X590? 199 on Crutchfield, cheaper on eBay. No TA but you have EQ and crossovers. Plust Q adjustement and 3 band frequency center adjustment. Not bad for the price. Plus you get USB input, MP3 disks, ect.

02BlueSuperRoo
12-19-2006, 10:52 AM
If you need any help with your install let me know.

tilejerky
12-19-2006, 01:47 PM
Kenwood KDC-X590? 199 on Crutchfield, cheaper on eBay. No TA but you have EQ and crossovers. Plust Q adjustement and 3 band frequency center adjustment. Not bad for the price. Plus you get USB input, MP3 disks, ect.

+1

I know that a lot of people like the Alpine's, but I've actually got that Kenwood HU. It's got a lot of features for the $, and I'm pretty happy with it. The interface is a bit counterintuitive (my last Kenwood was much easier to figure out), but once you get past the quirks it is very flexible. Lots of crossover controls and a parametric 3-band EQ to fix the most blatant FR problems.

It is also in the in the same price range as the Alpine that you're looking at. I've got a buddy that loved his Alpine, so I can't knock them, but the Kenwood offers great bang for the buck.

V6TurboTA
12-19-2006, 01:53 PM
I'll take a shirt.

snorekl
12-19-2006, 01:57 PM
I love my Alpine 9835 but it's sad to see that the nicer features are being removed from the Alpines of today. I suppose they want to sell you a processor so they can make more money.

02BlueSuperRoo
12-19-2006, 02:06 PM
I'll take a shirt.

:lol:

khail19
12-19-2006, 02:11 PM
I love my Alpine 9835 but it's sad to see that the nicer features are being removed from the Alpines of today. I suppose they want to sell you a processor so they can make more money.

That's what I'm running as well. The 9835 was the last good deck Alpine made.

Siper2
12-19-2006, 04:28 PM
You'll learn that the quick-wits on NASIOC (or so they see themselves) love sarcasm very dearly.

Audiophiles typically say that rear speakers are anachronous, but I disagree. While I usually fade the sound toward the front a little, rear speakers are there for a reason.

For a limited budget like yours, go listen to a bunch of speakers as some here have said. Same goes for head units. You could save on installation cost by ordering your stuff from a place like www.crutchfield.com. Their customer service is spectacular, too.

Alpine, Eclipse, Nakamichi, Denon and Kenwood eXcelon are probably the best head unit manufacturers out there, with a few stragglers from other companies coming pretty close (like Pioneer Premier). Some of the other ones are spotty at best, but it depends on what you like, ultimately.

You can get a very nice deck for a couple hundred bucks.

=S2=

02BlueSuperRoo
12-19-2006, 04:41 PM
You'll learn that the quick-wits on NASIOC are much more clever than I am.


Ficksed.


Audiophiles typically say that rear speakers are anachronous, but I disagree. While I usually fade the sound toward the front a little, rear speakers are there for a reason.


Yep, they're for back seat passengers.

snorekl
12-19-2006, 07:03 PM
I with Siper2 and I vote for rear speakers IF you can afford them. Forget what you're supposed to do - do what you like and I like having rears. They're certainly not a priority compared to good fronts, an amp, etc.

ScubaruImpreza05
12-19-2006, 07:34 PM
I with Siper2 and I vote for rear speakers IF you can afford them. Forget what you're supposed to do - do what you like and I like having rears. They're certainly not a priority compared to good fronts, an amp, etc.


Just put the less 'bright' speakers in the rear :mad:

MOMO > Type-R. :rolleyes:

I got the rears and after some fine tuning, I'm happy I did. They should have been my last purchase in the system, admittedly. That way I'd have the money for the PG X400.1 :D

~Levi

khail19
12-19-2006, 07:44 PM
That way I'd have the money for the PG X440.1 :D



What is that? :confused:

ScubaruImpreza05
12-19-2006, 09:34 PM
*cough*

What do you mean?






;)

Daishi00
12-20-2006, 12:01 AM
You missed out on the Ninja Edit window....you have been caught muhahaha

Kn0x
12-20-2006, 12:04 AM
So I bit the bullet and bought two new front speakers, an amp and a head unit.

My current setup:
Pioneer's DEH-P6800MP Receiver
Polk db650 Fronts
Bazooka BA460 4 Channel 240 watt amplifier

I only bought the bazooka 4 channel because I paid 60 bucks for it because it was a wall unit and I saved roughly 125 dollars.

Im pretty pleased with it.

khail19
12-20-2006, 02:24 AM
*cough*

What do you mean?






;)

I figured the x400.1 was what you meant. I only asked because I won one on eBay yesterday for $67 + shipping. Supposedly it is BNIB and it comes with a 4 ga amp kit as well. I couldn't believe the price, so I bid and ended up winning. It's supposed to be here tomorrow, so we'll see if it's really brand new. If so, it might be the best deal I've ever gotten on eBay! :banana:

khail19
12-20-2006, 02:26 AM
So I bit the bullet and bought two new front speakers, an amp and a head unit.

My current setup:
Pioneer's DEH-P6800MP Receiver
Polk db650 Fronts
Bazooka BA460 4 Channel 240 watt amplifier

I only bought the bazooka 4 channel because I paid 60 bucks for it because it was a wall unit and I saved roughly 125 dollars.

Im pretty pleased with it.


Sounds like a good starter system. I'm not a fan of the Bazooka amps, but for $60 it will get you going. Then save some money and upgrade when you can. Are you planning on bridging it to the Polks?

02BlueSuperRoo
12-20-2006, 03:24 PM
I figured the x400.1 was what you meant. I only asked because I won one on eBay yesterday for $67 + shipping. Supposedly it is BNIB and it comes with a 4 ga amp kit as well. I couldn't believe the price, so I bid and ended up winning. It's supposed to be here tomorrow, so we'll see if it's really brand new. If so, it might be the best deal I've ever gotten on eBay! :banana:

Damn, that would be a good deal.