My updated mod list

2005 STi

JIC505ti exhaust
Cobb catless DP w/3" flange weld
APS header
APS uppipe w/Turbosmart 38mm ext. VTA (custom fab by Agile Auto)
APS 525 intercooler
APS 70mm CAI
SMC 50/50 injection
Turbosmart eboost II
Crucial thermastat
colder plugs
Smaco inlet pipe
Blouch Dom. III turbo
AP protuned by Jeremy & Hill@Agile Auto
*edit* Helix 860 injectors & Walbro

I know I am forgeting some smaller mods but this is all I can remember. I love this power. It spools like stock and pulls like a freight train. I have no regrets and highly recommend Blouch Turbo & Agile.

It put down 446hp & 440tq. Here is a link to the graph. I can't figure out how to post it on here


http://www.wrxfanatics.com/index.php?showtopic=48550

extrapolated crank horsepower? Do you know what you put down at the wheels?

extrapolated crank horsepower? Do you know what you put down at the wheels?

446hp & 440tq on Dynapack

nice numbers

My updated mod list

I know I am forgeting some smaller mods but this is all I can remember.
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It put down 446hp & 440tq.

http://www.wrxfanatics.com/index.php?showtopic=48550

call me an idiot, but I think you forgot to list the aftermarket turbo.

wait....what is the Dom. III? maybe the turbo? haha, I have a feeling I am the idiot

call me an idiot, but I think you forgot to list the aftermarket turbo.

It's the last mod mentioned before the AP..........Blouch Dominator III

Great numbers!

What was your boost set to and what fuel was used, 93 octane?

26psi. Shell 93oct.

very nice. Always wondering how much one of those would put down

did you do any regular pump gas runs with no alkhy mix?

did you do any regular pump gas runs with no alkhy mix?

I'd be interested in seeing the same thing if you have them.

Also, would it be possible to get a dyno plot of an STi with just an exhaust and tune? I'd like to see how this compares on that dyno.

THanks!
Mike

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=11998158


The dyno plot in the first post shows the AP stage 2 ots map and the Protune results. A stock STi is rated at 238whp on their dyno.

here is 3 dyno graphs of my STi on that same dyno. One pic is turboback w/stock cat, intake and cobb ots stage 2 93oct LGW map. The other 2 are with the Blouch Dominator III with internal Wastegate, Turboback w/o cat, intake, GM boost solenoid, 860cc injectors, walbro 255lph, TurboXS FMIC, colder plugs and ProTune By Hill @ Agile. All were on 93OCT gas, NO METH. I'm going for a retune on Jan 2, 2007 to have it tweeked since it was 97degrees and 90% humidity when I had it tuned in July. I should get a little better numbers. I'll post them when I get back.

http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=999&gid=11520088&uid=4515686

26psi. Shell 93oct.



WOW! that is alot of boost on pump gas. What are your AFR's and EGT's?


EDIT: didnt see that you were running a 50/50 mix with that. Nice numbers.

finally some recent results! great #'s man!

:banana:

Thanks! It is a monster and I love it. 2 thumbs up for Agile & Blouch.

wow, great numbers!

I dontt think you mentioned this, if so I apologize:

What inlet and exhaust housing size did you get on the dominator?

thanks

Wow, very similar to my setup. I like the results!

It has the standard 2.4 inlet. Here is a link to the turbo for those interested

http://www.blouchturbo.com/turbos/WRX_Dominator_III/

.........and what size exhaust housing? 7cm?

For those who think his numbers are inflated, I ran a 12.2@113 with 383/394 on the same dyno at agile.

Great numbers btw. Car must be hella fast.

For those who think his numbers are inflated, I ran a 12.2@113 with 383/394 on the same dyno at agile.

Great numbers btw. Car must be hella fast.

i ran 12.4 at 111mph with less than 300awhp ;) , dynojet.
OP, Very nice setup. great fun driving car for sure.

i ran 12.4 at 111mph with less than 300awhp ;) , dynojet.
OP, Very nice setup. great fun driving car for sure.
ok let's not start this kind of battle thread please..... :lol:

back on topic..

7cm or 8cm ? :)

Mine is 7cm. You have an option of 8cm or 7cm. You also have an option of 2.4 inlet or 3.0 inlet.

Thanks for the compliments guys!

what he said ^^^^

just for people that think the dyno reads high i went 12.3 at 112 on the stock vf-39 and only put down 337hp/400wtq on agiles dyno. so put all the crap about the dyno reads high to rest..... i have my re-tune with them with my avo500 coming up i cant wait. hey good numbers i was the ewg silver sti up there that got tuned after u. how is the spool with that turbo?

^ I remember your car was Awesome! I plan on installing your fresh-air vent this spring :cool: .

I was super hesitant about changing my stock turbo. You & I have/had "perfect" stock turbos. I am super happy with this settup and the spool is, I swear, better than stock.

This turbo is almost scary at full boost :eek: .............almost :devil: .

And trbowrx, Your 60' times are incredible. :huh: :eek:

Mine is 7cm. You have an option of 8cm or 7cm. You also have an option of 2.4 inlet or 3.0 inlet.

Thanks for the compliments guys!
what made you go with the 7cm and 2.4" inlet?

^ I remember your car was Awesome! I plan on installing your fresh-air vent this spring :cool: .

I was super hesitant about changing my stock turbo. You & I have/had "perfect" stock turbos. I am super happy with this settup and the spool is, I swear, better than stock.

This turbo is almost scary at full boost :eek: .............almost :devil: .

And trbowrx, Your 60' times are incredible. :huh: :eek:

thanks man yea i love my setup but i always want more out of my car. i had really good experiances out of the stocker and i am hoping for even better with this turbo. you will love the spec-c vent i know i do. you have a 11 sec car with that beast now. why did u ditch the three port boost solinoide?

26psi on pump 93 with no meth??? What is the a/f?

The car had a SMC meth kit, I was there while it was getting tuned (White STi getting tuned with SMC). Those are some sick numbers, I'm thinking about going a similar route with my car after seeing hiw car.

Ok with the meth that makes more sense. Small thing to leave out of the parts list. :lol:

i hope there's no one around like u guys when i'm there. i'll b embarassed with my basic stage 2 protune :cool: .

You will not be dissapointed with your tune.

JUst remember we all had to start somewhere, no matter how basic the setup was.

truly. i have been readin up on injection, however.

If you have any questions or concerns on anything that you read about, call Agile and ask. Hill , Jeremy , or any of the others will gladly help.

If you're planning on staying under the 500 whp mark, all you will need is the fuel pump and the injectors.

With water/meth, there are many people that support Hydramist and SMC to name a few. It will depend on how you want the system to function.

26psi on pump 93 with no meth??? What is the a/f?

that's no big deal. :rolleyes:

when will this ill-conceived notion that high boost = immediate total engine meltdown disappear?

edited: I can't read :P

My updated mod list

2005 STi

JIC505ti exhaust
Cobb catless DP w/3" flange weld
APS header
APS uppipe w/Turbosmart 38mm ext. VTA (custom fab by Agile Auto)
APS 525 intercooler
APS 70mm CAI
SMC 50/50 injection
Turbosmart eboost II
Crucial thermastat
colder plugs
Smaco inlet pipe
Blouch Dom. III turbo
AP protuned by Jeremy & Hill@Agile Auto
*edit* Helix 860 injectors & Walbro

I know I am forgeting some smaller mods but this is all I can remember. I love this power. It spools like stock and pulls like a freight train. I have no regrets and highly recommend Blouch Turbo & Agile.

It put down 446hp & 440tq. Here is a link to the graph. I can't figure out how to post it on here


http://www.wrxfanatics.com/index.php?showtopic=48550

umm.......It is there.

I saw it^^^

I plan on installing your fresh-air vent this spring :cool: .





^^what the hell is a "fresh-air vent"?

WOW

how could he leave something like this out of the mod list....wtf :mad::confused:

it's ok eric i'll get you some http://secure.hop.com/ :p

very nice what size is the domIII ? making some nice power:)

^^what the hell is a "fresh-air vent"?

haha i was up there last time when we got tuned and i have a spec-c roof vent and now he wants one. it is the fresh air vent!

I have basicaly the same set up tuned by agile with no meth. I got like 370/370 WHP at 19 PSI. full boost by 4K in 2nd and 3K in 5th. I can make about 8 PSI at 2.5K Its not as responsive as the stock turbo but its not a bad street turbo at all.

^ You have the Dom. III?

I have basicaly the same set up tuned by agile with no meth. I got like 370/370 WHP at 19 PSI. full boost by 4K in 2nd and 3K in 5th. I can make about 8 PSI at 2.5K Its not as responsive as the stock turbo but its not a bad street turbo at all.
so alchy adds 70whp and 70tq? whoa

that's no big deal. :rolleyes:

when will this ill-conceived notion that high boost = immediate total engine meltdown disappear?

Your kidding, right? 26psi on straight pump gas is safe is what your saying?? Stock block also

do you want logs of me pegging the oem map sensor on 93 octane pump gas with a vf23 on an ej205?

Do you want me to post pics of what is left of a 257 piston from running 24-26psi on straight pump gas?? Can you run high boost on pump gas (pump gas that is going down in quality all the time also??) Sure you can, but i wouldn't reccomend it.

i don't need pics of what happens when people who don't know what they're doing tune cars. :lol:

my pistons, and compression, are fine, and i make it a point to hit 25 to 28psi daily.

i don't need pics of what happens when people who don't know what they're doing tune cars. :lol:

my pistons, and compression, are fine, and i make it a point to hit 25 to 28psi daily.

it's not nice to talk about tuners that post on here. :) You are running stock sti shortblock??

it's not nice to talk about tuners that post on here. :) You are running stock sti shortblock??

:)

no, i run the block that came with my car when it left japan.

plain old, cast piston, cast rod, open deck, ej205.

here's my take on it:

1. boost is the easiest parameter to "see" as an end user. hell the gauge comes oem from the dealer... ever see an ignition timing gauge or a wideband afr installed as a factory option?

2. boost is also the easiest parameter to "tweak" as an end user. it takes about 5 bucks worth of parts to make an mbc.

3. i think boost has been unfairly portrayed as "the destroyer of engines." this is probably due to points 1 and 2 above.

4. in actuality, it is my tuning belief that TIMING is really the destroyer of engines. what's the first thing the oem ecu does to protect the engine when it knocks?

5. it can be assumed that a user who is literally adjusting his/her own ignition timing has some fairly specialized equipment and some knowledge as to its use.

6. similarly, a user adjusting his/her own air fuel ratio has some fairly specialized equipment and some knowledge as to its use.

7. unfortunately the same cannot be said of the young kid with the $5 mbc who probably just thinks "more is better" and takes things to a conclusion that can only include mechanical trauma.

i do not wish to be misunderstood as the proponent of "turn up the boost all the way and your car will be wicked fast" school of thought, but rather as a proponent of "you've got three variables: boost, timing, and afr, and you can trade off one for the benefit of the other two, or vice versa, in whichever ways you see fit as a tuner." it is completely possible to have an engine-breaking tune at 7psi, or a 100,000 mile tune at 30psi.

I agree 100%, we have had more then a few blown engines come in from mbc's and no adjustment in fuel/timing tables. Most people aren't educated enough on tuning aspects, i am no expert by any means but i have a good understanding of what goes into tuning a car. The ecu immediately pulls timing in knock conditions. The only two gauges i have in my car are greddy boost gauge and aem uego wideband, really the only two i see as a necessity.

so alchy adds 70whp and 70tq? whoa

It could, But in my case(402whp & 383wtq), if you were to compare my results on that same dyno to widespreads results, he is only about 40whp more than me and about 57wtq more than me. I am on 93oct and 24psi. He is 93oct with 50/50 meth and 26psi(I think).

so alchy adds 70whp and 70tq? whoa
well that and more boost I am sure I was only at 19 PSI

I also have a 17-18psi (about 1.5 psi difference) map that only made 330, these turbos like boost. they seem to be happy above 19 PSI but cant hold to far past 25 like the real gt30r from what I have been told. by my house I can get leaded 112 oct for 4$/gal:banana: so I was going to get tuned for that instead of meth but I need a clutch first so I am wating on mine the stocker to die first. I didnt want to push my stock clutch to hard or my stock ringlands to hard on pump when the other stuff is so cheep.

Glad to see some results from this turbo. Especially glad to hear you're happy with those results :D

Timing isn't the destroyer of engines....detonation is the destroyer of engines, many parameters can induce detonation, and all detonation is bad.