Because of the popularity of the WRX, membership for this club has increased dramatically. I don't think that's a bad thing. However, have you noticed that posters are getting rude and insulting? I've only been with this club for a year now, but I always thought i-club was friendly place. Now, post someting that someone doesn't want you hear and you get insulted at.

This also happens in the Real World. I have been taunted several times by WRX owners for driving a MY01 Impreza. I suppose having a slower and older model offends them somehow. Oh well, more incentive for me to get boost.


Ben

It is definetly different than it used to be but that can be expected what a board increases exponentially. :)

Eric

hey. ive been here for over a year and ive always been rude and insulting :D

i've only been a memeber since last may but perused the boards every once in a while before that and the attitude has TOTALLY changed since then. Everyone used to work together on this board...now if you post something that doesn't tell them what it is they want to hear you are the one at fault even if you are right. The I-club used to be one of the most friendly clubs out there, but recently it's going to hell. but that's to be expected since the WRX output for a year will be more then the RS output total for 4 years...i guess that is just what happens when a company finds the niche.

jeremy

Where do you think all those people came from???

They sold their hondas...

who makes damn sure he checks the member number before flaming someone some folks are just new....

I'd really like to see a demographic of members 5000+ and how many are really MY RS's...

sjd

generally speaking, if your member number is higher than 5,000, then I am VERY careful with my words...and even more careful about whether or not to even get involved.

It has changed pretty dramatically. I used to read almost every thread and everyone was generally helpful and friendly. I now skim through a few key forums, and the threads I read have insults and lots of mis-information.

It also seems that there is a lot of seperation between the WRX owners and the "other" Subaru owners. Some WRX owners seem to look down on all other Subarus, while some non-WRX owners are hostile towards the WRX for various reasons.

Most of this can be expected when you go from < 500 users 2 years ago to 12,000+. There will be growing pains, but this board has done better than many other ones I frequent.

I just try to be open to other ideas, and if someone disagrees with my opinion I just move on and ignore the attempt to start a flame war.

Aaron
http://www.AzScooby.com
http://www.ScoobyMods.com

some of the vendors are like that too...won't even consider GC8 stuff...

I, on the other hand, will crush all of them...

Airborne Motorsports coming soon....waiting for the BL.

steve

Don't fret guys... I do share you're pain a little... and the moderators, Alex, and myself do try to keep things in check... but it does get more and more difficult when we're gaining an average of about 1000+ members a month.

It will calm down, or the newbies will get a handle on the ropes... or they will end up someplace else. But as long as this club still has people like us (the old school) subaru drivers who bought the car for more than just the marketing hype we'll be able to survive anything.

And for any of the WRX owners that think GC8s are slow... tell them to visit me in South FL... I'll gladdly show them what the tail end of a GC8 (a real impreza) looks like under rapid accelleration! ;)

-Nick

....as I sit here out in the cold with my MY98 and a high member number. :(

has anyone else noticed that all we do in the old skool forum is bitch and moan about how hard it is to be G*67 owner?

Please don't kill me for having an '02 and a high number ;)
I can't really comment much on the change, but I have noticed the rudeness even from some members with low numbers. Here's the scenario that happened recently:
start of thread
I reply
I get flamed
I try to return thread to civility using plenty of ;) ,:) , and :lol:
I get flamed some more
I give up

I like AaronB's attitude:I just try to be open to other ideas, and if someone disagrees with my opinion I just move on and ignore the attempt to start a flame war. Why am I here in the Old School forum? Slumming :lol: j/k I'm learning everything I can.

BTW- I tried to get a 2001, but couldn't find a black coupe in April :(

yeah, by the end of the 2001 model year run, those Coupe's were very hard to find.

So if you want one, I'll sell you mine for a measley $16,500!! :D

hehe I have been bitchin about this for a while now..but, what can u do.
everything has changed...man, I pass ppl in a rex and they don't even look over at me.
Also,
if I do talk to ppl with a rex, they are like"I'm not doing anything to this car...its great"
BAHH!! MOd the crap out of it until it blows up! thats what i say:)
hehe
things have changed, but with maffia ppl like Nick in the house, those ppl will "stop posting for unknown reasons" soon enough:)
Just ignore the idiots.
Keith
"I just got 22s on my wrx...aight! and demz be cromed up, with crome tires, and "that kit"
AHHH!!

Originally posted by steve_d
some of the vendors are like that too...won't even consider GC8 stuff...

I, on the other hand, will crush all of them...

Airborne Motorsports coming soon....waiting for the BL.

steve

World domination soon to follow;)

the overall attitude has definatly changed here. but what can you do, just let THEM be. genuinely helpful and curious people use to be a dime a dozen when i joined. ask a question, come back in an hour and your question was answered along with advice. now you gotta read through the flames and insults to learn anything. and that's IF you learn anything. but eventually everyone will either calm down or leave. and we gotta remember not to lump everyone together and say they are ALL bad apples. ;)

Sid

p.s. beethoven, come sit around the fire with us :p

Originally posted by asusimpreza
This also happens in the Real World. I have been taunted several times by WRX owners for driving a MY01 Impreza. I suppose having a slower and older model offends them somehow. Oh well, more incentive for me to get boost.

no... they just feel inferior because our car looks better than theirs...

..... and i've got a high number too... :( :( guess my MY98 means nothing...

and i've found that if you don't completely spell it out, word for word, piece by piece... people become easily confused... both here and in the real world... so i don't know... someone said it right though...

the wrx is brining Subaru into the limelight and getting the proper recognition... however... it's bringing the right and wrong people into the Impreza community... oh well... i just turn my head and leave em be...

AJ

yeah my member number is high...guess i don't count as an offical old schooler then

MY01 RS Sedan

I am one of the like 2 dozen that have actually bought a 2002 RS :)

talk about a rare ride hehehe.

I got a high member number to go with it! I was going to buy a subie like 3 years ago just couldnt find any used and couldn't afford a new one till now.

I can't seem to find it but somebody in another post summed it up perfectly:
"The IQ of a given I-Club member is inversely proportional to their member number." :p

Huh, I dont get it;)

i threw out 5000 as a random number.

Nick, can we get that stat???

member number vs what car they originally came on with???

Odds are if you're a member before Jan 2001 you had a GC8 bodystyle.

I mean look at it...we've got guys numbered 2500 and below who've been on the board for only a year....even one in this post...1 year and 3 mos....#24xx....we're at what....12,xxx something now???

staying GC8....glad prices are dropping...

sjd
who found bumper lips for MY98's....gonna order some soon.

I've been a member since August of this year and for the most part, local and virtual members have welcomed me into the i-club family to which I am grateful. I've gleened a great deal of information from this board.

I like many other WRX owners clearly recognize if it wasn't for the support of Impreza RS enthusiasts that the WRX would have never found its way to the US. Many of our chapter members have RS's and even L's and they receive a lot of props and respect from the WRX owners.

I think a less obvious yet contributing factor to the growing lack of civility has to do with age. I've always said that the low sticker price/high horsepower quotient of the WRX has attracted the street racer ("Fast and Furious") element. Let's face it, the AWD and 227HP makes the WRX one of the biggest bangs for the buck out there to date. The WRX has essentially become a speed platform which resulted in a growing number of younger WRX drivers who care more about the 227hp and could care less about who made the car.

I'm pretty sure you can draw similarities between the tone of posts dating back two years at the ClubSi forum to posts appearing at the i-club over the last 9-12 months. I think what we are seeing a shift from Subaru enthusiasts to "speed" enthusiasts. That's evident from the growing number of threads about kills, midnight runs, speed related accidents, 400-600hp WRX's and 11-second 1/4 miles.

I think this has been eluded before but here it goes again. The best thing that happened to SOA and the i-club was the US introduction of the WRX. The worse thing that happened to SOA and the i-club was the US introduciton of the WRX.

There's a lot of great information on this board, you just have to sift through all the "stuff". With the introductions of clubWRX and various "speed" centric forums some of this will die off so long as these types of threads aren't fueled. Then those members who are more intersted in speed over Subaru will find a site that best feeds them.

Just my 2¢

Things have changed,but like Nick said,,time will tell.I used to scan all the forums,now, like AaronB I just scan and post in a few.Another thing ive noticed is the high number guys(not all)dont have a clue what makes a internal combustion engine work.
Ive seen posts like,,"what does an intake do?","why do i need an exhuast?" "What do the belts do"?,,and these arent in the newbie forum.
I can imagine what the Factory Forced Induction forum is like.Turbos arent my forte,but Damn! Did thy ever even read the manual??? I even got tired of posting ,,do a search,,,when the infamous "how do i rest the ecu question came up".
And hey,,I know i was new to Subaru once too,and this club got me up to speed real fast and for that im gratefull ,But these new guys seem to demand a reply,and if it's not what they wanna hear,they flame ya or get cute.The real old skoolers dont seem to post as much anymore,,makes ya wonder.
Rant mode off,,,,
Rudy:D

Originally posted by JGard18
generally speaking, if your member number is higher than 5,000, then I am VERY careful with my words...and even more careful about whether or not to even get involved.

Sadly, this is the attitude I take as well. My member number is a low one (three digits!:D ) because I joined this board back in early 2000, but I didn't get my RS until this past August. Guess that's what you call "research"! :lol:

But seriously, I come across posts with some frequency that I see wrong info, etc, posted in, and I think about posting a correction, or at least an opinion. But then I stop and realize that it's not even worth it, as most of the people won't listen anyways. Guess that defeats the purpose of being on the board, but at least I can come in here and bitch! :D

Hey guys and gals, lets not stereotype now.

1) I am generally very considerate of other posters.

2) Never owned a Honda, let alone sold one... :) The WRX is my first Turbo, and I think that all of you who spent the time and money to put work into the earlier Impreza's are all the better for it. Does it really matter what kind of car we all have? Hey, we all like driving, and presumably like doing so fast.....

3) New membership is good for the board, if you pay attention to the A@@holes, they will just post more often, and more rudely. But new members bring new ideas and opinions.

Well, I try to be as helpful and as informative as I can. I have loved the gc8 style since I first saw them. Until I was really in the market for a newer car- new job, more money- I just admired them from afar and figured they were up around 25-30k. Well, when I found out how cheap they were I jumped at the chance to buy one. I love these cars. The honda was scary in the snow and I just had a feeling something was gunna break soon on it. I still have the accord, but dont drive it- and nothing went wrong with it. However, I was not your typical "bling bling" Honda owner. Both of my cars before that were 80's SUV's. The accord was a decent car that fit my price range at the time that I bought it. I LOVE the Impreza then. I heard that Colorado has the most Imprezas sold out of any state. Not sure if it's true, but it could very well be. I see these cars everywhere. I wave whenever I see a scooby (outback and legacy wagon owners give me weird looks) But it's all in fun. I'm lovin the car, but I always have. I dont remember ever seeing a commercial for the gc8 when it came out. Oh, and for the record, I dont like the looks of the rex at all. The wagons aren't bad, but the sedans just look strange to me. I bought the car in september and have put 5500 miles on so far. Thanks for the community guys! And dont mind my high member number.

Originally posted by AaronB
It has changed pretty dramatically. I used to read almost every thread and everyone was generally helpful and friendly. I now skim through a few key forums, and the threads I read have insults and lots of mis-information.

It also seems that there is a lot of seperation between the WRX owners and the "other" Subaru owners. Some WRX owners seem to look down on all other Subarus, while some non-WRX owners are hostile towards the WRX for various reasons.


Pardon the long reply... here are some quotes taken form my first month of membership. nobody involved was higher than #4000, the crack about newb-diots came from a member well below #100. A couple illusrate the warm welcome I personally recieved.

So I don't think things have changed much... and a GC8 is a 1993-2000 WRX 4-door, do I remember that right, I wouldn't want to perpetuate any misinformation...:devil:

"Even if the new WRX has some features the 911 also has, it still will not step up to its
performance and quality level."

"Interesting that you have a 2002 WRX in your signature without having it yet. Funny..."

"WRXster, you own a 2002 WRX in Sedona Red Pearl? I'll cut back on the caffeine if you cut back on whatever it is you're smoking."

"If you're white I'd love to see ya yell the N word in any predominantly black area..."

"Get your nose outta other peeps biz...."

"Newb-idiots... Now that I've caught your attention,"

"There is no Newbie descrimination--until some knob with a name like StRtR4crWrX asks how low everyone has lowered their car. Then everyone notices he only has 10 posts..."

"... are some of the lowest forms of human beings on the planet, aside from truck drivers. They will @@@@ you."

"enough already....!!!! i am going to get more coffee..."

"Man did this thread go downhill fast. I think everyone is forgetting what the i-club is all about: Sharing our passion and enthusiasm for primarily Subarus, but also the automobile in general. Not to bicker with each other over petty crap like this."

":monkey:"

WRXster,

Not sure why you quoted me I never mentioned member numbers, etc. I also said "some" in both instances. I can also promise that not a single one of those quotes are from me. Just confused why you would quote me... :confused:

When I say things have changed drastically it is true, but you have to remeber I have been on the board since '99 and less than 400 members, so it has changed drastically. Maybe things haven't changed from January 2001 to now very much, but I can assure you that things have changed from when I joined to now. Back then we all knew eachother pretty well. Something that would be impossible with the sheer volume of members now. It was more of a family type atmosphere. As with all things that grow bigger people have to learn to adapt, the board is suffering growing pains, but things will stabilize soon.

Just so you know I do understand member numbers and post counts don't always reflect how much knowledge someone has.

Regards,

Aaron
http://www.AzScooby.com
http://www.ScoobyMods.com

hmm, correct me if I'm mistaken,
but I think that there is a general tendency for people to talk down on cars that are less expenisve and not as fast.
For example,
back in the day of the 2.2, people would much prefer the 2.5....
now SOME WRX owners feel superior to 2.5 owners,
and SOME 2.5 owners feel superior to 2.2 owners.
Isn't that just kinda the pecking order? People go places, they decided their car is better, then they like to establish themselves as knowledgable.
I dunno, I might be full of something or another...i haven't been on the I-club board that long, but on all the other ones, I have noticed these trends.
Some people are here to meet new people, some people are here to show and share their enthusiasm with fellow sube owners, and some people are here to feel better about themselves. :)
I think...you ignore those that annoy you and talk to those you like
YEAY!
Bye guys
Sarah

You guys seem to hate:
New body style
Automatic owners
The WRX crowd
Newer members
Younger crowds.

Then I must be almost your worst enemy!

I am 18 I (me with 3 years of saving up from afterschool and summer jobs) bought my 2002 2.5rs AUTOMATIC. I Also just bought a new computer, got the internet and joined the club. I am your natural enemy I guess.
I want to say "look before you leap"...don't make assumptions. I am new to the car world and I ask alot of questions, read even more and I also tend to take a course at UTI to learn more and more for the fun of it. I love my imprez and I love subarus overall even more. I know I don't know as much as you guys. I know that I ask more then I help. But come on. I joined the club looking for a group of people who were going to be as crazy abotu suabrus and as fun as I . I also expected that Questions asked are questions answered.I understand the annoyance of the whole question always ebign asked over and over but you ignore and move on. let the moderators handel it. If you don't want more members...CLOSE the regestration. but this is froma "newager" and I guess I am not wanted because I wasn't good enough to find out about this place in the begining.
-Neal

This forum is all about the sharing of information and learning. I dont have a problem with WRX owner... yah Im a little jealous of the power, but oh well. I think the problem with some newer members (not all of them, k?) Is that they think by owning the car it gives them some special knowledge. (IE I know a faster car so I must be smarter) Then there is the guys who have come over from the honda world and assume that everything works the same. (Witness the AEM intake saga.. Seems since it is familiar it is gospel and must be the best) Bah. I joined up quite awhile ago now, was poking about long before that. Ive learned a hell of alot about cars since signing up. I just hope we can do the same for all the new folks too. Tough bit is there is alot more new folks compared to people who really know what they are talking about relative to what it used to be.

yeah...it seems alot of the new members don't want to know ANYTHING about how thier car works...and i guess i get shunned because i work for the Enemy huh??

jeremy

it is disturbing because this is supposed to be a place for people to learn and share. Not. I am faster and I won't tell or I want to be faster...tell me how. Heh.
Funny.

Join a club, to make every club memeber hate you...heh.
-Neal

tis GROWING pains mates! ...

hehehe yes ... i remember the only REAL debates were technical and design debates.. man those were the days... i couldn't even post... for fear of ignorance... i learned so much.... now.. it has changed... more .... unprofessional....

POWER!??? busssssshhh whatever... means nothing... i would say there are a handful of wrxs that can beat our RS-ts....

but WRXster... o-u-t o-f c-o-n-t-e-x-t

i beleive we are all talking about MAJORITY... we are not all angels... some of the most bitc (ack hem)... out spoken are the old timers... but we are speaking about general... there was more accountability...

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: the sins of the few ruin it for everybody else.

My biggest complaint is the attitude by some that they just don't care to learn how the car works. My personal attitude about everything is that I want to know how things work. I see this in my daily life as well, even in the field I'm in (computer networking).

That said, I'm also sick of the whole street racing/Stupid Street/Fast and the Furious scene. It's not cool, never has been, and never will be.


HndaTch627: You may work for the enemy, but you are perhaps the most learned "new-schooler" (even though you drive a 2.5RS) I know of.

Sigh, my lowly impreza never gets any respect. :)

If you ever want to be ignored, show up with a 2.2 normally aspirated Impreza with stock bodywork.

Oh well, I've got a low number and I'm a nice member.

I'll wade into this, with my 12k number proudly waving over my head......

I originally started thinking about retiring my MY91 Probe LX (V-6) a little over three years ago. At the time, I was seriously considering a Civic Si, but a friend of mine (Burnsrules) turned me on to the RS. Started doing the research, lurking here, and lurking on the Scooby newsgroup on Usenet.

However, budgetary limitations ended up keeping me out of the market until this past fall. When I finally had the finances lined up, I was mostly sold on the RS but still hadn't driven one. I had driven an Si about 9 months previous, but a call to the Honda dealer ruled that out...they had been dropped and all available stock in a 10-state area was gone. So, the RS was looking better.

I had looked at one at the Chicago Auto Show earlier last year, and was impressed (imprezzed?) by what I saw. However, the one local dealer (Nielsen's in Gary, IN) never had one on the lot for me to drive. They were consistenly willing to order one for me, but I wasn't going to lay down that kind of money without at least taking a test drive....

I found Lynwood Motors over in Lynwood, IL and Tom took me on a real test drive....through a twisty onramp, up a highway, and through some local roads. I was hooked. I had heard rumblings about the WRX, but it was $4k over my budget, so it was never really an option. I ordered my MY01 RS Sedan and Daphne came to live with us last December (the car-naming thing is a tradition with my wife....)

I'm about a month away from 39. I understand the mechanicals, and have no use for accessories that don't add to the performance of the car. Is it functional? No? Then go away. I had some guy who was devloping hi-intensity LED's to light your brake calipers and asked if he could rig up my car. I politely declined. I just don't get that whole thing........

I've really been around here for about 2-1/2 years, just never got around to registering until this month.

I've also noticed a disturbing trend on the newsgroup....before the WRX came out, most of the postings were about RS's and Foresters. After the WRX came out, I'm lucky to see 2 RS posts a week. 80 percent WRX, 10 percent Forester/Outback, with the occasional SVX or older post. It's like everybody who owned an RS just dumped them and ran out and bought WRX's...

I'm perfectly happy with my RS. I plan on doing a few mods when the budget allows, but for now, she's my daily driver and I've put 21k on in the first year.

So, even though I have a high number, I'm "old school". I'm just a late joiner.

Paul

While their has been an undeniable attitude change on the board, due to the massive influx of new members. There have also be a lot of really knowledgable newbies too. Some of the noe X Honda guys, X V8 owners and so forth have a lot of technical know how and experience from which we can all benifit. On the flip side the influx has ALSO brought some really immature, know it all'ish and rude people too. We have to balance what we see, if all we see and think about is the negative that will be your view on the board, if all you do is laugh, learn what you can and enjoy it for what it is, its still the same I-club we all know and love.
I have met a LOT of newbies with WRX's that are really into Subaru ownership, and the society of us scoob nuts. I have made many friends from this club and through random meetings of other Subaru owners.
It will calm down eventually. will it ever "go back to the way it was"...NO. I dont want it to either. The board has grown and regressed at the same time. It can only improve.
I lurked for a looooooooooooooong time as a VW owner before I finally found my 99 RS in late 99. Even then I lurked until I got a job that allowed be to surf all day :lol: then I joined and have been here every day since.

Long live the GC8....

Originally posted by Marquis

HndaTch627: You may work for the enemy, but you are perhaps the most learned "new-schooler" (even though you drive a 2.5RS) I know of.

Thanks bro...that means alot to me.

jeremy

First check the member # (10433) and the title (Scoobie Newbie). Now check my car (2002 WRX Sedan). That being said, I would like to appologize for "my kind" to all of you "old schoolers".

I have been cruizing i-club for around a year and a half now (my Favorites shortcut still says www.impreza-rs.com) and only registered in May, I think.

I also have seen the changes in the i-club in the short time I have been here. I also have been the victim of flames to my posts. I also have noticed the challenges and general "snobbyness" of WRX owners.

But I have also gotten great advise and info from newbies and WRX people. I have also gotten more than a few thumbs up from WRX people.

I have also experienced the same hostility many have mentioned not from WRX people, but from some "old schoolers".

Don't hate me because of the car I drive or the fact that I'm still a newbie. Don't generalize and put me into a group.

I LOVE EVERYONE!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: I love my SUBARU!!!

Oh, and by the way, speaking of car jealousy, I am totally jealous of you RS coupe owners. I point out every one I see to my g/f. I think she is getting sick of it. :lol:

The only thing that upsets me is the domination of WRX. MOST Vendors changed their stock to WRX stuff, which is understandable, because that's where the money is.

So what we need now is a strictly, well-known, friendly 2001 MY and below vendor, that won't leave us. :)

Hondatech aka Jeremy is the *****..... not one of the honda boyz I was talking about.

man.....i may not be as low (#'s) as some of the guys who posted here but...i am damn glad that i am closer to the start than the end right now. i have been here a year too and have noticed a big change in the board....hmmm. i just try to be helpful but if i think someone is going to get pissed off than i am leaving that kinda ***** alone!!!!! anyway my 20 divided by 2, minus 7, cents:D:D:D

spt

I used to spend hours on I-club everyday, now once
a week for 10 min( in other words the i-club is starting to suk). Also how are some people with member # 7000+ have specialist status while I posted like crazy everyday when it was just Impreza-Rs.com before it changed to i-club:confused: Don't matter cause my modded 98RS-N is just waiting for a wrx to pull up at a red light :devil:
Ohh yea one more thing, seperating 'new school' and 'old school' was a very good idea, thanx Nik.;)

it seems like the more i learn about the car the more of a smart ass i become in my replies




hahaha i remember that. when i-club was impreza-rs.com damn that was awhile back.

Yea! anyone who knew of I-Club when it was just impreza-rs.com is definatly more special. :lol: case closed:cool:

remember when the big thing on the club was the new website?


anyone got screenshots of the old school site?

Ahh......... the good old days IMPREZA-RS.COM now all we are left with is memories:(

i wasn'ta memeber back then but i hear stories of those days gone past.

jeremy

see what I mean your # is 6000+ and your a specialist what did I do wrong, or did you just post 50 times a day?:confused:

subart my average is over 12 posts per day...and i don't whore either.

Jeremy

Don't feel bad SuBart. I was a Scooby Newbie until about 2 weeks ago, and look at my member number.

I'm just an anti-postwhore. I mostly shut up and listen to those who know more than I do. :D

I admit im a post whore
.....You know i bought my car in december of 99 and well i wasnt really interested in joining a club until my warranty ran out.....then for two months after it ran it i had a hard time finding the club....but finally did. Believe me I have noticed the tension between old style impreza owners and the WRX's, when i read the threads if it posted by a WRX owner i usally dont read further cause......alot of info doesnt apply to my car. I look at it this way though......ya the WRX is a great car with alot of power........but it still looks like a neon:p ;) :) :lol: :confused:
Wolf

The few, The proud, The DOHC 98RS's..... :p
Just felt like saying that, maybee this post will bring me up to specialist status:D

What concerns me the most, (and I don't want to offend any WRX owners) is the fact that this board is becoming more for the WRX and less for the RS and other Subaru cars. When I joined all was nice everyone was pleasant, now I think we (as in RS owners) feel what was once a place of common ground is becoming ground we must now share. Since the release of the WRX I haven't been as active in the forums like many others mainly because it seems like every post is WRX related. I must say that temptation to trade my RS for a WRX has crossed my mind, but the way I see it the oldschool RS is the one who paved the way so that all the WRX owners could be just that. I plan to keep my RS for as long as she will run just because of the unique styling and most definately because of the limited numbers made. What I look forward to now is the possible release of the STI so then I'll have oldschool and newschool in my driveway, not to mention I'll be one up on the WRX owners.:lol:

just wanted to check my member number before I replied

Andres

okay under #5000......usually I'll post mostly helpful info. The thing that gets me is all the new agers post with out searching or even checking the rest of the board.....I dont know how many times there have been multiple posts about the same subject at the same time. granted there are some old schoolers out there that do the same, but a lot of them are newagers. I think this is what contribute to the change in attitude of i-club. I usually get tired of anwering the same post over and over, however I answer it and suggest a search, because that seems to end the thread pretty fast

Andres
:devil: sorry about the rant:devil:

subart,

Don't feel to bad I've be around for a longtime and I'm still a newbie. It also used to take far fewer posts to become a specialist. For some reason I think it was like 60 posts. I remember when they changed it. It was also when the term post whore started showing up.

A new ager my number is like 9000 or something.....I admit i have been a bad newbie....im guilty of some of those multiple posts, because i didnt use the search function. Iam getting better though........I just posted a bulb question that cant seem to get answered in the Dress and body style forum. Ill tell you guys one thing on why i post so much, I just want to be noticed and not just some other stupid newbie........does that make ne sense
Rich

I see what your sayin but with 10,000+ members gettin noticed just got more difficult.;)

yup...unless you spend alot of time dealing with a very few people and move from there.

jeremy

Sigh, my lowly impreza never gets any respect. If you ever want to be ignored, show up with a 2.2 normally aspirated Impreza with stock bodywork. Oh well, I've got a low number and I'm a nice member.
Ditto here, Jesse.

This is an IMPREZA owners club (well, all Subies are welcome, but certainly all Imprezas!) that has become dominated by 2002 WRX issues due to the sheer number of WRX owners. Whaddaya gonna do? :rolleyes:

Maybe we can get a forum set up for "subie newbies" with member numbers below 2500, say? Interested Marquis, GZoomer? Nahhh, wouldn't work, we're all listeners who don't post much! :p :D

I must not be crusing the right forums. I stick to my subscribed few. But this post has convinced me to check in on the other forums to see what all the noise is about.

You want to talk about back in the day? When I joined the I-Club (Impreza-RS.com) we had like 2 forums and our conversations were:

So how you like the new forum?

and it took like a week for us to get 5 replies! :lol:

-Danny

I want to say "look before you leap"...don't make assumptions. I am new to the car world and I ask alot of questions, read even more and I also tend to take a course at UTI to learn more and more for the fun of it. I love my imprez and I love subarus overall even more. I know I don't know as much as you guys. I know that I ask more then I help. But come on. I joined the club looking for a group of people who were going to be as crazy abotu suabrus and as fun as I . I also expected that Questions asked are questions answered.I understand the annoyance of the whole question always ebign asked over and over but you ignore and move on. let the moderators handel it. If you don't want more members...CLOSE the regestration. but this is froma "newager" and I guess I am not wanted because I wasn't good enough to find out about this place in the begining.

I couldn't have said it any better. Just wanted to quote someone that embodied my feelings the second I read the few first posts.

O.K., I'm a WRX owner but we also have a 95 Legacy and have had 3 other subies. I hope I am not one of the WRX snobs. Hey, if it wasn't for those of us who remained loyal to Subaru and particularly to RS owners who pushed for the WRX it never would have been released in the U.S. So we thank you and respect you. :D

Originally posted by Marquis
Don't feel bad SuBart. I was a Scooby Newbie until about 2 weeks ago, and look at my member number.

I'm just an anti-postwhore. I mostly shut up and listen to those who know more than I do. :D

I don't get it.. your still a newbie.. i never really cared for the status... because it wasn't needed... people were so knowledgable that with whatever status you had people would know how much you knew just by your posts... so i shut up... but seems there is a lot of people and need a lot of help.... so i just try to help... actually it would be cool to have an old timer title... hehehe

I agree with you HOK. I could care less for the stats. If you know what your talking about and don't sound stuid then you should be liked with no problems. I love this board and I have only been a member for about a week and i can see the rudeness already. And im gonna agree with AaronB when he said that he just blows off the person who rude and move on to the next. More power to ya buddy:cool: I think i have been welcomed very nicely and appreciate that. Thanks Chris

I'm only 19, so I couldn't afford my car until now, so I didn't post. I've got mixed feelings about the WRX owners. I bought my car used from a very nice guy who bought a WRX.



I want to see some pics of impreza-rs.com ... I remember it, but I can't remember the color scheme or the font or graphics. It used to get updated more often than the current page, I think...


I remember seeing the original SCC project impreza, the blue 2.5RX, in person at the L.A. auto show.

I remember being so stoked about the Minnam stage 2 turbo... (coming soon), and all the people waiting for their JC turbo kits.

I remember when people would mod their front lenses, removing the orange reflector, because clear corners were like $100.


I remember wishing that Gran Turismo had a 2.5RS in it, so that I could add turbo to the bigger engine.


OK goodnight all...
-scott-


BTW, the search function isn't always super-accurate, with all the extra crap that people post now-a-days. Try searching for something, and you've gotta wade through about 10-15 topics that aren't what you're looking for. Lots of times I get a 'exceeded 30 second timeout' message. A better FAQ would help.

You want to talk about back in the day? When I joined the I-Club (Impreza-RS.com) we had like 2 forums and our conversations were:

So how you like the new forum?

and it took like a week for us to get 5 replies! :lol:



Heh... I hear that, my two-digit member number friend. Wow, your number is even lower than mine. I don't see too much of that...

Of course, seeing much of that would mean you and the 62 other members with lower numbers would have to be the ultimate post-whores nowadays. :D

This kind of dialog every once in a while can be a helpful thing for the virtual community. Regarding what the WRX means to the Subaru family overall, hopefully the rising tide will lift all boats. Concerning people who consistently make rude or otherwise inappropriate postings, hopefully the consistently helpful postings that most of us try to make, will keep those "course corrections" happening. I for one certainly appreciate and enjoy the i-club and this forum and the helpful people. Cheers, GoodFinder :)

There seem to be more WRX owners on the board than RS owners. There seem to be more RS owners on the board than L owners. (or TS, or OBS, etc)

So is the RS to the WRX as the L is to the RS?

In other words, I don't see that many L owners posting here. Are they the "real imprezas"? ;)

p.s. I drove my 94 impreza L wagon for 4 years before moving on.:)

well if it wasn't for the L's our cars wouldn't be here so i give everyone who drove one a big THUMBS up. I still think they are cool and i'd really like to get one as a project impeza.

jeremy

to think.... i even held out becoming a member of i-club because i liked simons page so much...:)

Originally posted by SuBart
Yea! anyone who knew of I-Club when it was just impreza-rs.com is definatly more special. :lol: case closed:cool:

bah..... i remember when it was "Imprezer's Lair"

and.... what ever happened to that Robert guy??? :D

newbies... they're ok... just gotta keep em in line..
and get rid of the trolls....

i like that part :D

j.
www.subiegal.com

I love this club. I'll admit I was late in the i-club(impreza-rs) scene, but before driving my current car, I drove the almighty '85 GL wagon, which could barely do 80mph, but had the cool 4hi and lo and 2wd shifter. The only thing I don't like about the club is the elitist attitude some old timers have to us newer members, I know you guys are cooler than me for joining earlier, but you don't have to rub it in so often;)

Nick C.

Yeah I agree with Nick^^^^:) I have only been on the board for about 6 months and I can really see a big change in the post's and just the general feel of everything. I really use to enjoy reading posts but now there is hardly anything worth while reading on the board. There are a lot of cool people on the board, but at the same time there are a lot of people that are just on here to make their point and dont want to listen to anybody else's oppinion. The moderators are all cool and I think that they are not being unfair when they delete a post. I dont understand why people get so upset about one little post. They know that what is being said on that thread is totally useless info if it has been deleted! I also am getting the sense that with the wrx coming to the U.S a different kind of people are looking at buying. Kinda seems like almost more stuck up people are buying the newer subaru's? I am NOT saying that all people that own a wrx are like that. I know a bunch of people that have wrx's that are really cool people. Just some people are rude. These are just my thoughts and this is just my opinion. Please dont flame me for saying that.;)

Sean

what disusts me more than anything is how neglegent alot of WRX owners are. They don't even realize that the old 2.5rs is what the orginal WRX looks like. And the fact that the WRX isn't even the best Impreza, which all the cocky SOBs will learn when we get the STi. Anyone who knows Subaru will know that the 2.5 engine is highly tunable, and is great under boost (can't say the tranny is all that great though). So I'll just keep doing to WRX drivers who talk crap what I've always done since I got my turbo kit, WASTE EM.....

Just wondering because I have loved Subaru and Impreza's since I was 12 years old.
I don't have a Impreza, I cant even afford a 93' Impreza L. When I can afford one, Ill buy one in a heartbeat!
In my current status, would I be a troll?

:confused: :(

Never!;) As long as you are not like some people on here and are cool and dont complain about stupid things. It is really cool that you have joined the board for the love of the scooby!!

Sean

Originally posted by stiguy555
Just wondering because I have loved Subaru and Impreza's since I was 12 years old.
I don't have a Impreza, I cant even afford a 93' Impreza L. When I can afford one, Ill buy one in a heartbeat!
In my current status, would I be a troll?

:confused: :(

no way dude...you are cool, just as long as you keep ur head on your shoulders....;) i was a club member for 4 months before i had my car(on the barod anyways) was hanging out with some of the REALLY old school local guys long before...the ultimate imprezza is the 22b...i think alot of people will agree, ask the FACtory FI Forum what a 22B...i'd be interested in their answers..hehe

jeremy

Jeremy! You're just setting him up to get flamed! Not nice.;)

Yes, the board has changed. I think the big influx of new members created a huge amount of "newbie" posts, like "What is the best turbo kit?" and "9 psi = how much HP?". People have gotten sick of seeing those posts, and started to just say "Do a search!" I am guilty of it, too, and it makes the original poster defensive (understandably, IMO). So, I have tried to make a concerted effort to answer the question and then recommend they do a search to get more complete information. I think everyone adopting this attitude would do A LOT to reduce some of the conflict on this board. Furthermore, I feel that it is up to us, the Old-School members of this board, to initiate it. My $.02.

Check out my username, I didn't own a Subaru until 6 months ago! No one flamed me for it, or called me a poser or a wannabe. Bring back the love guys!:lol:

- Trent

Oh, I forgot to ask, what is the correct offset for our cars?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :alien:

Old School and proud! Got no problems with the WRXers, have met some cool people, But,..... I LOVE MY GC8! Oh, and my feelings about I-Club? Still the best place to kill the spare time! No better place for ALL the info you need!
Shawn

One thing I hate about a couple of WRX owners (and I ran into this alot at NOPI) was they think that since the 2.5 didn't come turbo, it must now BE turbo, so they felt they could come up and talk trash to me the first night then I beat the crap out of em and they didn't come back. Another thing thats annoying as hell is so many people asking if my car is a WRX itself. I know other 2.5 owners especially the ones with turbos know how annoying this is.

i remember back in the olden days when we used to have to walk to imprezerslair through the snow in the dead of winter..

:p

This site has had a huge change and i think it's just getting some stretch marks right now and everything will be ok in a year or so. Well if the sti comes over make that 3-4 years. By then we'll be the super old skool. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Xio
I can't seem to find it but somebody in another post summed it up perfectly:
"The IQ of a given I-Club member is inversely proportional to their member number." :p
Cool, then I must be borderline genius! :D

i actully love this board,i have a 97 type R also, but after years of being on honda boards this board is so much nicer, the people are more helpful and supportive here.its just nice togo to a board where everyone doesnt have a chip on their shoulds or look down on you because they got more JDM or mugen parts on their car,so trust me the attitude on this board in my opinionis 100% times better than what im used and i see on other boards.im mean you guys(subaru owners) even wave to eash other on the roads, i havent seen that since i was in the corvettes with my dad. dont get me wrong i get waves all the time when im in my type R i just wish when they waved they would use all five fingers.