Read here (http://espn.go.com/rpm/others/2001/1125/1284258.html)

Under the "Open Door" subheading ... it says that he drives a camaro in the offseason. While there's nothing inherently wrong with a Camaro (well, perhaps there is :p ), why wouldn't he choose to drive something better ... perhaps like an RB5 or something?:confused:

Oh well. Perhaps I just wish for driving something available in the UK myself.:o

He has an RB5 and an EVO, hasn't driven either, they just sit in his garage according to an interview I read in EVO I think. It also said he drives a WRX Ver 5 or 6 (cant remember) and he never washes it..lol

ehh what a pud. If I had a car named after me then I would drive it!

Is it a cool 67-69 Camaro or one of those crappy new ones? I would drive one of the classic ones.http://www.camaros.net/images/photos/10050.jpg

the new Camaro isnt as bad a car as everyone here makes it out to be. Not to say Id buy one......

well, it's possible he drives it around because not many other people have them. chevrolet sells camaros in europe, but they are all LHD.

since he drives subarus all the time as his job, he's probably sick of driving them on his off-days. :lol:

FYI - it's a '69 SS. Speedvision.com had an article about it a few months back.

For all of you bashing the Camaro for no good reason, whatever, get a life!

I have a '98 Z28, a '70 Olds 442 and an '85 Monte Carlo SS in addition to my WRX. Feel free to stop by someday and test drive my "crappy" American Cars. If you don't walk away with a big :D on your face, you've got mental problems!

I love old Camaros! (the new ones aren't to shabby either) I wonder if his is stock. Even though I cant stand Nascar, one of my favorite Dream Car Garage episodes was the one on Earnhart Jr's Camaro. Man that thing was just incredible. My favs were the 68 RS/SS with the hideaway lights and the 327! 69 Z-28 is a close second.

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CamaroMullet: The CamaroMullet used to have full reign over the mullet brethren, but that was back in the 70's and 80's. This species has fallen from grace since, but can still be seen enjoying NASCAR events and shopping at Kragen, or up in the attic cooking up crank. Distinguishing features include: a molester mustache (peach fuzzy), tight-fitting acid wash jeans, and an ever-present key ring hanging from the belt loop.

Feel the mulletude emanating through your computer screen from this rare pic.

It is not recommended you confront the CamaroMullet, for they are very aggressive and cannot be hurt (this might be due to the frequent use of methamphetamines, angel dust, etc.).

Mulletude: 10
Aggressiveness: 10
Hobbies: primering cars, bar fights, picking scabs, losing teeth.
Sightings: Kragen, Grand Auto, working on a Camaro on their front lawn.
Favorite Band: AC DC

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True, I would take a 60's model too. But the new ones...They are so ugly that they should just quit making them ;)

Can't escape the Mullet....:(

Burnsie drives a Camaro in the off season? Good Lord. He probably makes enough bank being a rally driving for Subaru he could go out and buy some of the hottest super cars Japan or even Europe has to offer. So what does he do? He chooses to drive a Camaro? No offense to the Camaro lovers out there, but there are bigger fish in the ocean. Hasn't Burns ever realized the power of the Suby rally car he drives at work, or anything made by rivals like Mitsi, Porsche, Toyota, BMW or *cough* the Nissan freaking Skyline? Some people.....:p

Sure those cars are amazing, but they dont have the same feel as a '69 Camaro. There's no such thing as a 'classic' Japanese sports car really. Atleast not like the classic American hot rods.

SoCalSoob - that is truly funny! That's the most detailed info I've ever seen about the camaromullet!

Seeing StaRS (and others) - you're missing the point entirely! He doesn't use it as a daily driver. He drives it because it is a classic. He enjoys it for what it is, not because it's a badass car.

Found the story:
http://www.speedvision.com/pub/articles/racing/09commentary/011018.html

SoCalSoob - that's the funniest mullet write-up I've ever read, concise and to the point:lol: As for Camaros, yes the old Camaros are super cool and would be one of the few domestic cars I'd be seen in and love to own!

As for the newer Camaros, they look like a beef wedge or something. Everytime I see one making that wom wom wom sound driving down the street I cringe:( I don't know what it is about those cars including Firebirds and TransAm alike but they just don't go down well. Can't GM just give us a break:mad:

Sorry to you new Camaro lovers just matter of opinion.

Burns has a 1969 Camaro SS which is a beautiful car! Mullets need not apply.

True that the new Camaros are crap, but GM is giving us a break, they've discontinued them. But only so they can make more SUV's which is worse

:(

Does that mean they'll stop making TransAm and Firebirds too:) (beef wedges)

Correct. No more GM F-body, Pontiac or Chevrolet, after 2002.

Rumor has it that GM will bring back the f-body in a couple years. Absensce makes the heart grow fonder? The rumor is that they will be smaller and have retro styling hinting of the 1st gen. They are also going to be AWD with the high end models powered by a Northstar V-8.

yep. i heard exactly what jaybird just said. they mentioned the 1st gen retro styling a few years ago, but the AWD has only emerged since the investement in on one of those Japanese companies that's known for AWD....

Hmmmmmm..... ;)

Hope you Camaro guys can understand this but I really hope they change the name if they do bring it back. No matter how great it looks or doesn't, it'll still make the same impression on people as the previous chunck *wedge*, mullet models.

GM is never going to interest me with things like TransAms, Sunbirds (is there even such a thing), Cavaliers, Bonnevilles, and I cringe to say Azteks:( :monkey: Yuk...

Why can't an American car maker start making cool cars? What's the problem. Sure keep offering 0% APR to sell cars and you'll always have the same non-enthusiast consumers. Well, you gotta to give the Dodge Chrysler Plym Mercedes etc people props, they've got the Viper which is a damn fast car on any track.

In order to truly comprehend the true essence of all that is mullet, a few terms must be studied and understood.

butt-rock (but-rk) rock n' roll music produced from the mid 70's to present that has the following characteristics: four or five male members with long, feathered hair (bangs are common, but not necessary) or mullets, wailing guitar solos, distorted guitars, and lyrics about women, sex, drugs, Satan, and fast cars.

Typical butt-rock bands are Winger, Scorpions, Dio, Ted Nugent, The Marshall Tucker Band, Metallica (1990-present), Whitesnake, Def Leppard, Journey, Krokus, Accept, W.A.S.P., Van Halen, Sammy Hagar, Slash's Snakepit etc.

BUTT ROCK FOR A NEW GENERATION: Rap-Metal (not to be confused with original bands like RATM or Anthrax) Kid Rock, Limp Bizkit, Coal Chamber, ICP etc. These bands carry on the tradition of using the artform of music to make profound statements like: "I did it all for the nookie, c'mon, the nookie, c'mon, the nookie, so you can take that cookie, and stick it up your ass" and "Cowboy, Baby." By backing up these deep thoughts with aggressive music, Limp Bizkit focuses the youth's energy...well...no where really, except to rape girls at woodstock maybe.


coldneck: a non-mullet. note: just because someone is a coldneck, doesn't mean they don't possess mulletude.

construction rock: butt rock which is played on the radio.

crank (krank) a low cost methamphetamine--commonly used by mulletheads (San Jose biker crank seems to be a favorite). note: methamphetamine was invented by the the Japanese in 1919 and used by the Nazis in WWII for the purpose of keeping their soldiers alert--and is now used by every-day Americans to escape from the slave-state in which they exist.

mullet* (mu' lit) 1. any of a family of edible, spiny-rayed fishes found in fresh and salt waters and having a small mouth and feeble teeth, as the striped (or gray) mullet. 2. any haircut which the sides and top of the hair are cut significantly shorter than the back.

The term "mullet" has now been seen in Mark Twain's Huckleberry Finn: "They're so confiding and mullet-headed they don't take notice of nothing at all."
neato (thanx 2 carrie).

Other terms for the hairstyle known to me and many others as the "mullet" include, but are not limited to:

7 (the shape of the number)
10-90 (changes in numbers proportion to the amount of hair on top and in the back)
achy-breaky-bad-mistakey
ape drape
backpack (SASSY Krue)
beaver paddle
bi-level
business in the front, party in the back (whorehouse cut)
camaro cut
canadian passport
coupe longueuil (Canadian)
el-camino
hockey hair
IROC cut
kentucky waterfall
longueuil
manny
missouri compromise
mudflap
neckwarmer
ranchero
SFLB(svelbie)=Short Front, Long Back
STLB(stilbie)=Short Top, Long Back
safety cut
schlong (short+long)
sho-lo
shag
shorty-longback
soccer rocker
squirrel pelt
tennessee tophat
yep-nope

The 97+ Corvette is one of the best deals for the money, and it's certainly American made.

The Corvette (especially the Z06) is the glaring exception to an otherwise pathetic GM line. It's mind boggling actually how the same company that makes such an amazing supercar can also make the Cavalier and the Aztek.

But I'd rock a Corvette in a Second if I could afford it. :D

Why is a mullet called a "Manny" in your list? Thats my last name..and NO I dont have a mullet, camero or inbred family members.....

That list is hilarious! I will agree about GM. My father is retired from GM and I live in a VERY GM-biased area. Noone makes a stripped-down straight-axle 4x4 pickup anymore. Gotta have leather. I don't want to start on that though. I could go a while.

Here is a Camaro I would drive. It was a 19 yo R.J. Gottlieb that raced in the Silver State Challenge (a 90 mile long "run what ya brung" race) in 1989 to an average speed of 199.97. The next year he did an average of 189 running on 7 cylinders. All aluminum big-block powered. And I am not a big fan of 69 Camaros. But this one, hell ya!

while many people in this forum love the WRX, as i do, you have no right to bash the Camaro. Even if the current models dont meet expectations like we would want them to, its pollution laws that prevent that. All Camaros were created equal, some just turned out better

I love my Subaru, and in gereral I am more a fan of imports than domestics, but please do not knock the Camaro especially the older ones till you have had the pleasure to experience a ride in one. The raw power they have is such a rush, that pretty much goes for any muscle car. They may not be what I need or want for a dialy driver, but I respect them for what they are.

OK, so he drives a very nice Classic car. Ever been to europe where gas is about 4x expensive as it is here?

To see a car like that, on the roads of europe must be amazing. They didn't have them over there when they were made.

It's a status car there. You just can't get them.

When I was in Sweden, I did some lectures at some high schools there. One of my favorite questions was "What's your Idea of America?"

One of the top things that guys said was either the classic 60's Mustang or classic 60's Camaro, with the years 67-69 being top on the list.

Guys over there like these cars. Why? Becuase they can't get them there. We just take them for granted.

--kC

have you guys ever driven a classic muscle car?... if so, you will know why burns drives a classic camaro... my experience was in a 67 Mustang 289.... christ... no cars feel like that anymore....

Quentin

My first ever trip to the USA, back in 1988 i badly wanted a corvette to drive around in, they gave me a Chevy Caprice Classic, talk about a piece of crap. :lol: (was brilliant at doing donuts on frozen car parks with the cruise on though!)

After much hunting i finaly found a hire company in Harisburg, PA who wouldnt give me a corvette but would give me a Camero. :D

I drove from Penn State to Washington DC and back in a day in that thing, full chat the whole way. How i didnt get put in jail i have no idea. :lol:

It was dog slow compared to my car in the UK but at least it was an American car with some sort of name.

We dont see many US cars in the UK, they cost too much to run. No one wants them from a performance perspective either, we prefer corners to long straights. ;)

Me doing what i do in RWD cars, having a laugh. :D

nhalterman <--- Proud owner of a 500 HP '99 Trans AM

V8 HP + V8 Torque = Big Grin

Can someone please photoshop a mullet onto burns.

I can bash them. I still have my 79 Z/28 sitting in the garage. Its for sale if anyone wants to be more like Richard.

Originally posted by KC


It's a status car there. You just can't get them.

When I was in Sweden, I did some lectures at some high schools there. One of my favorite questions was "What's your Idea of America?"

One of the top things that guys said was either the classic 60's Mustang or classic 60's Camaro, with the years 67-69 being top on the list.

Guys over there like these cars. Why? Becuase they can't get them there. We just take them for granted.

--kC

Being from Sweden I must say that this statement is incorrect. My father likes American cars, has a 66 Bonneville, 68 Firebird and 80's Cadillac. It is not hard to get them. He did some importing of his own, just have to be willing to pay for shipping and perhaps some emission part changing.

Most people have them as their "summer" cars to cruise around in. Similar to here, some like them, some do not like them. To call them a status symbol is to stretch the truth.

A Subaru WRX on the other hand would be a status symbol and a sign of royalty in Sweden ;)

I let the status symbol thing go because it was too damn funny for words. He can't mean it surely? :lol:

I would think that a '67 - '69 Camaro while large by European standards would be reasonably 'managable' in rural English country roads... The larger, newer Camaros really would feel out of place over there, though.

Having lots of low-end torque, and rear-wheel-drive I am certain is much more pleasing to drive than a 'point and squirt' AWD car, although perhaps no where as quick. So for basic transportation, I am sure Richard is very happy with an un-fussy, easy to drive, fun Camaro.

I recall James Allen (English F1 Reporter) interviewing Heinz-Harold Freintzen, whilst HHF was driving James Allen's personal '67 Ford Mustang (many years back either on Speedvision or ESPN2). While Heinz showed no real interest in the car, James clearly thought a lot of it.

Its kinda like looking at Silivas, 22Bs, Skylines, etc. from the otherside of the fence. You can get them if . . . . $$$.

Maybe, but James Allen is a twit of the first order. The fact he has taken over from Murray Walker as commentator is a major blow, he sucks ass big style.

No Camero is at home on the roads of the UK, even the "good" ones can't hack it. AWD point and squirt??? One thing AWD isnt is point and squirt. :confused:

This thread is stillll going? *roll eyes* Burns is gonna do what he's gonna do.








Btw-Last time I checked AWD rules! :p

It's moved on from what Burns does, thats what happens in discusions, they tend to develop. So yes, this thread is still going. :rolleyes: :p :monkey: ;)

Originally posted by Seeing StaRS

Btw-Last time I checked AWD rules! :p

Thats a bit of a broad statement, My RWD car would kick your AWD cars ass big style on any road or track. :p :monkey:

I guess I kinda brought this one back. My scanner wasn't working last week when it was more active. I got it working. I wanted to put that pic of "Big Red" up.

Ok...RWD is probably the most versatile of the drivetrains. You can grip drive...drift...powerslide...all that stuff. AWD IMO is strictly for grip on the street and drift on the dirt. I'm pretty sure Mr Burns knows this...and wants to drive what he wants to drive. Not saying that a Camaro would be my first choice...but everyone has their fetishes...knamean?:cool:

Jazz95

Well I sorta meant it. It was the impression I got when I was there in Jan '91. Some of the kids eyes grew big when talking of these cars. :)

Maybe I did overstep it a little when I said 'status'. ;)

--KC

AWD is more versatile than any platform "if you know how to drive it and you have more power than grip".

You can do things with AWD you couldnt even consider with FWD or RWD. However 99% of people dont know how to harness it's potential and very few AWD cars on dry tarmac have the power required to make them work to the levels of a RWD car.

of course, im just asking that you people dont bash the camaro. its a better car than you think it is

A guy I work with has a 2k SS. Its modded and its fast. I told him I would race him any day as long as it was raining. :lol:
Would I drive one? No. My Dad is retired from GM. I could have had one with a big discount. No thanks. Just ain't my cup o' tea. I think my WRX is a lot more purposeful at this point.