so i got this 95 impreza 1.8 the other day and i'm getting tired if the stick, are the 5 speeds just a crappy tranny? seems to be real jumpy between first and second. does anyone knmow the best rpm to shift at? the other gears i do just fine....... thanks dudes...........

NEVER!! Even in traffic it doesn't bother me that much at all. Automatic's FTL

The only time I get tired of manual is in really bad stop and go traffic. The five speed in my WRX pisses me off sometimes too I get locked out of 1st and have to start in 2nd gear. Plus gear changes could be smoother. but once you actually get to drive manual kicks a$$.

The only time I get tired of manual is in really bad stop and go traffic. The five speed in my WRX pisses me off sometimes too I get locked out of 1st and have to start in 2nd gear. Plus gear changes could be smoother. but once you actually get to drive manual kicks a$$.

...YOU need Uncles cocktail....;)

When I go home to philly and drive through the city, yes

NEVER TIRED EVER! I dunno why they even made autos :p

thanks for the replies. i guess since i've always had an auto that's what i'm used ti. but if i had a wrx it would be more fun. i like the awd but the little 1.8 isn't quite as quick as my cav z24.

No, I hate having to rent cars from time to time or drive the wife's automatice Camry because I feel like I don't have enough control and the damn things downshift hap hazardly.

maybe if i had an rs or wrx like you guys i'd have more fun eh? those cars are pretty sweet.

Whenever I go home, I always drive the Tundra around. Laziness is bliss at times!

Rich

I had a few hand me downs in college that were all autos, I hated it... when I finally broke down and bought a car it was Manual all the way, my first Subie was 98 2.2L It had a lot of pep. Luckily my wife loves em too! She got a Jeep and insisted on a 5 speed (she had never had a stick before, just didn't want an auto Jeep) now she's hooked. We are looking for a full size truck now and it is hard as hell to find a 5 speed two door full size truck.

I feel the same way every friday afternoon driving home in LA traffic :( My left leg is probably bigger than my right leg after this car.

maybe if i had an rs or wrx like you guys i'd have more fun eh? those cars are pretty sweet.
Nah. I'd rather drive a manual heap of junk over an auto Benz.

Maybe just sell your car and get another auto? Manual isn't for everyone.

And the 1-2 shift takes practice. It's rough on any car.

When I get sick of a manual I just drive my truck or my wifey's LGT.

still though y'all have wrx-s and rs-s.......a little 1.8 just isn't the same. i like the car a lot though. the interior is really nice and it's comfortable

my 95 impreza is really touchy between 1st and 2nd too :rolleyes:

Swap it, that oughtta be good for a few more grins while commuting.

yeah prolly, money's tight and i got a good deal on it

we still have my auto though, so that's good

Only time i ever wished that my car was automatic was in a monte carlo rally, when we were a little early to a checkpoint and I had to make 100 yards last ten minutes going uphill. My left leg was twitching.

other than that I never get tired of it!

my fiance's car was falling apart so we got it for her and after one day she said hell no, so i traded her to make things easier

^^^Nice to see that, like most women, your fiancee is open to new things.:rolleyes: :p :p

she was then tried it and said no

...YOU need Uncles cocktail....;)

Uncle could you inform me what this coctail consists of. Please. :D

well it was good once

and how about those cup holders? like they didn't even think about it and said "i guess here's as good as any place" and so then it covers the stereo and heater controls.......awesome

Uncle could you inform me what this coctail consists of. Please. :D

Search, its all over Nasioc. I've never seen a need for it personally though.

Besides, we all know he didn't come up with it. Its best reffered to as Uncle Scotty's Mechanic's Cocktail.

If it doesn't have dooooooood, or kiddie in it as an ingredient you know it wasn't his invention.

the 1-2 shift on my car is also hard... and the correct technique seems to change depending on how long I have been driving the car (bushings softening up? I have no idea...).

Last time I drove my mom's Legacy I left foot braked from 40 so hard the ABS kicked in and supprised me. Think I did it twice in a 5 minute drive.

When I do drive an automatic I feel like I'm breaking it.

I think manuals are more reliable too.

I bought a 2000 vr6 jetta for work, it's an auto. Really really didn't want an automatic, but 8k for a loaded vr6, I couldn't pass it up.

I still catch myself trying to find the clutch pedal :(

Only time I get tired of it is when I'm in very busy stop and go traffic while really having to urinate. :(

Automatics intimidate me, I have no idea how to drive one:eek: .
Whether or not you get tired of driving a stick is up to the person. My work truck is manual and for about two weeks my throwout bearing dug into my mainshaft bearing and made the clutch extremely difficult to press in. A couple days before I got the parts to change the clutch I was to the point of not enjoying my shifting anymore, then I thought about having to drive an automatic and got the shivers. I would still take a crappy shifting truck over an automatic any day and in any traffic.

No...

Yes, the 1-2 is iffy on my EJ18. I did stick some synchromesh and it helped quite a bit, but the notchyness was still there. Try the cocktail/synchromesh stuff.

I eventually swapped out the tranny and put in a RS 5MT :)

-paK +1

NEVER!! Even in traffic it doesn't bother me that much at all. Automatic's FTL

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Although I may have to drive auto for a while now...sprained my right wrist and fractured my hand.

When I do drive an automatic I feel like I'm breaking it.

I think manuals are more reliable too.

Depends on the output of the engine and all that, but the 4EAT is a stout tranny. Stronger than the early N/A 5MT trannys.

never :D

A lot of people always ask me about this when I'm giving them rides in stop and go traffic (you know, on the very rare occasion that stop and go traffic exists in Vermont,) and my response is always, has always been, and likely will always be no. Even in uphill stop and go traffic I never get sick of the manual transmission. I hate having to drive my moms car or my dad's truck or any other automatic transmission vehicle because there is absolutely nothing to do. It's just gas, brake, gas, brake, gas, brake and it bores me very fast.
Yep. I <3 the stick!!

Hill Holder FTW!!!!

<-----tired of mt after driving bmw's SMG!!!

Automatics intimidate me, I have no idea how to drive one:eek: .

It's actually pretty simple. When you want to go, hit the gas. When you want to stop, hit the brake.

I think it's nice to slum in an automatic every once in a while. While my STi was in the shop getting a hit-and-run dent fixed (BASTARDS!) I was driving my beater Pontiac Transport van. Sure, it shudders like a mofo (an axle/CV going bad) and it's gold, but it's nice to have a mindless drive to work.

<-----tired of mt after driving bmw's SMG!!!

BMW's SMG aint even that great. drive a ferrari's or a lambo's then you can talk about a great paddle shifter.

BMW's SMG aint even that great. drive a ferrari's or a lambo's then you can talk about a great paddle shifter.

Audi's DSG isn't bad either.

...YOU need Uncles cocktail....;)Could you please elaborate because we've got three MTX Imprezas in the family that could use some help.

Every once in a while, I wish I had an auto, if I'm really tired or just feeling lazy. But I will NEVER in my life NOT own a manual car.

still though y'all have wrx-s and rs-s.......a little 1.8 just isn't the same. i like the car a lot though. the interior is really nice and it's comfortable
My first car was a 1994 2.0L Ford Probe SE 5 speed. I'd take that over an auto car. You act like we all started off with WRXs. It's not always the power of a car that makes it fun.

I miss california, 'cos I sure love me some san francisco hills + traffic.. :D

automatics are horribly unsafe if you ask me! Theres nothing like barreling down the road in a heap of metal at 65mph... When you take your foot off the gas pedal of a 5mt, it slows down MUCH faster than on an automatic. 5mt requires more driver attention and thus I believe the world would be safer w/o automatics. Thanks for listening

lol :lol:

Nope never! I love shifting!:banana:

2nd page!

Darn n00b settings.

getting tired of manual is not in my vocabulary. Does noy exist in my world at all. Manual is the only way to go. FTW!!!!

...YOU need Uncles cocktail....;)

try it. it works really well. :banana:

part gm/penzoil synchromesh
part redline lightweight shockproof
part castrol hypo C

search for "uncle cocktail" to find more info.......

still though y'all have wrx-s and rs-s.......a little 1.8 just isn't the same. i like the car a lot though. the interior is really nice and it's comfortableThe transmission is still basically the same. Subarus are notoriously some of the most difficult passenger cars to shift smoothly. The only things that help are stiffening up all the bushings (driveline/subframe/shift linkage/engine mounts & tranny mounts) and carefully selecting your gear oils. The good thing is that Subarus 6 speed is a much better gearbox. I'm really hoping that Subaru is currently working on updating their 5 speed to a similar structure.

I don't mind a manual in stop and go traffic. I don't see what the big deal is. I drove an automatic, last year, it was the 8 months of my life. :(

......Hell no! I had 95l 1.8 5spd for a year(now a ej22t). Tranny is fine even though i'm hard on it(knock on wood). Although it is making some noise now.

Could you please elaborate because we've got three MTX Imprezas in the family that could use some help.


For everyone asking about this, it's a common thing on Nasioc, so please search.

never. autos suck. you steer an auto, you drive a stick.

I love the manual....i wish we had nothin btu maual's in this country......what's funny is that I used to drive my dad's 2000 tacoma..it was a 5 speed but i dunno what made me think that there was a 6th gear lolz so i usually found myself either downshifting or tryin to go into reverse goin like 60 lolz 6 gears FTW =)

OK, when i was 16 I thought manuel was the coolest thing ever and I would never want anything else but then again I was young and stupid. This is my second manuel car now and to tell you the truth it does get annoying now. Don't get me wrong I do like the advantages gas/control and i wouldnt have a wrx any other way. I probably wont get another manuel car b/c iam rdy to have a luxury car and just chill out while driving with some smooth suspension.

well, it looks like the verdict is in. i do enjoy a good shift, it'll just take some time to get used to i suppose....maybe it'll be more enjoyable when i put my stereo in it so i don't have to listen to crappy stock crap. thanks guys!!!

I made the desision to get an automatic rather than a manual when I bought my Impreza. My previous car had been a manual and driving in city traffic was a pain.

One thing you will discover about the 4EAT is it sucks . . . if you just leave it in D. If you down-shift whenever possible it comes to life. I've won my class at a RallyX before with my largely stock 4EAT TS (stock powertain, upgraded suspension).

Hmmmm........no. Never. Even in stop -n- go for an hour straight.....no.

Downshifting around a tight turn is worth several hours of bumper to bumper NYC traffic IMO.

i never want to give up manual. it doesn't ever really annoy me.

my previous car ('93 protege), my current car ('01 legacy) and my project car ('90 240sx [currently DEAD :(]) are all 5-speeds.

i suppose there will be a day when i don't want to shift anymore, but that seems a long way from now.

rev-matching, double-clutching, and heel-toeing FTW!

Hmmmm........no. Never. Even in stop -n- go for an hour straight.....no.

Downshifting around a tight turn is worth several hours of bumper to bumper NYC traffic IMO.

You can downshift an automatic.

BMW's SMG aint even that great. drive a ferrari's or a lambo's then you can talk about a great paddle shifter.
If it doesn't have a clutch pedal then it is not a manual transmission. The highend smg, dsg, i-gear and the like are hydraulically operated clutches with a computer doing all the work. Although they are a lot better to drive than regular automatics, They still don't offer the same involving experience of three pedals and a shift knob.

There are days I really wish I had a automatic DD.

I want a manual in the subie that I get but I dont mind auto as long as the engine isnt underpowered. My S-10 was really underpowered and the auto drained alot of power out of it. If I was going to get another truck which I will some day, it'll be a auto Chevy 1500 w/ a V8.

I still prefer manual though!

I'm sick of it!
I hate my 5 speed. In the streets or on the highways I'm always really high in the RPM's, which I hate a lot.
I really miss my 6 speed. Manual is only ok if it's a 6 speed, I will never own another 5 speed in my life!

Only time I wished I had an auto was the week after I hurt my left knee, every shift was so painful.

I also am glad I have the auto in the SUV for pulling the boat, pulling the boat I have enough to worry about already. I am sure I would get used to a manual if I drove it enough, but for the 3-4 times a year I drive it, I am glad it is an auto.

last time i drove an auto i had major whiplash. went to push in the clutch when i was slowing down but i forgot it was an auto.:(

I can't see me going to an automatic any time in the near future. I enjoy the experience of driving a manual too much. Driving stick is second nature at this point so I don't even realize I'm shifting most times. Even in the worst traffic.

I owned an automatic truck at one point. I figured I wouldn't miss stick. I was wrong. They were the worst 3 years of car ownership I've had.

Tired left leg in traffic sometimes, but never ever would I want to give up my manual trans for some boring slushbox. Not even for a sequential paddle shifting gizmo.

rev-matching, double-clutching, and heel-toeing FTW!

YES!!

automatics are horribly unsafe if you ask me! Theres nothing like barreling down the road in a heap of metal at 65mph... When you take your foot off the gas pedal of a 5mt, it slows down MUCH faster than on an automatic. 5mt requires more driver attention and thus I believe the world would be safer w/o automatics. Thanks for listening

lol :lol:
I feel the same way. When I used to drive auto, I used to fall asleep on the wheel. Now in the WRX(my first MT), it has made me a more alert driver cause the whole body is in motion. When you`re driving an auto all youre using is a right foot and a hand of your choice(preferably leaning on one side of the car:rolleyes: ) for the steering wheel. MT=Better driving skills

NEVER TIRED EVER! I dunno why they even made autos :p


the auto is a good piece of technology imo.

most manufacturers build them pretty ****ty though.

gear ratios are always out of wack, converter etc...they COULD make them better but don't.

Infiniti has finnaly gotten the act together, Merc, i believe porsche sources theirs from merc. so did the jags back in the original e55 days.

why the hell is the auto 911 turbo quicker than the stick?

why do they even bother building mauals anymore?

sequentials is where it's at imo.

I feel the same way. When I used to drive auto, I used to fall asleep on the wheel. Now in the WRX(my first MT), it has made me a more alert driver cause the whole body is in motion. When you`re driving an auto all youre using is a right foot and a hand of your choice(preferably leaning on one side of the car:rolleyes: ) for the steering wheel. MT=Better driving skills

i believe that is gear ratios and the overdrive.

btw, at about 105 my rpms is about 35-3600. and takes 1 shift to get to 60.

also...in sport# mode, the gear gets held automatically.

and there are ways to drive an auto. lots of shift points vs accelerator vs up hill etc to learn. in a way...you CAN control the shifting of the auto if you know how.

I'm sick of it!
I hate my 5 speed. In the streets or on the highways I'm always really high in the RPM's, which I hate a lot.
I really miss my 6 speed. Manual is only ok if it's a 6 speed, I will never own another 5 speed in my life!

this is especially true if you have a loud exhuast... gets annoying as hell

6 speed FTW

this is especially true if you have a loud exhuast... gets annoying as hell

6 speed FTWTrue! I used to drive around with a Borla 2.5" exhaust and was scared to take it above 4k rpm of it being too loud. Now I have the Hush and I can speed much better without the noise being too annoying. This is also on a 18g`d, catless exhaust car.

this is especially true if you have a loud exhuast... gets annoying as hell

6 speed FTW

gear ratios for the win.

I dunno, I think a 6 speed would be nicer on an N/A engine rather than a turbo.

But I think my 5 speed's gear ratios are fine, I'd just like 5th to be a tad taller.

I dunno, I think a 6 speed would be nicer on an N/A engine rather than a turbo.

But I think my 5 speed's gear ratios are fine, I'd just like 5th to be a tad taller.

ever hear the rumor that the last gen m5 was quicker to the 1/4 by skipping a gear?

those germans are also electronically limited at 155 and top speed is around 185 or so. i think that is about 20 more than my auto legacy gt.

fwiw

ever hear the rumor that the last gen m5 was quicker to the 1/4 by skipping a gear?

those germans are also electronically limited at 155 and top speed is around 185 or so. i think that is about 20 more than my auto legacy gt.

fwiw

I'm confused...

In my 2004 WRX manual it states that to get better gas mileage you have to shift from 1st to 2nd at 15 MPH, from 2nd to 3rd at 25 MPH, from 3rd to 4th at 40 MPH, and then from 4th to 5th at 45 MPH. That's a lot of shifting in a little time frame. I try to stick to it, but sometimes you gotta stick to what Ricky Bobby says in Talidaga Nights "I wanna go fast..."

haha thats to keep it outta boost omg imagine driving that... It would be like my 1.8 liter.. except slower buahaha

Both my STi and my 93 Toyota 4x4 are stick.
Sometimes, I wish my truck was auto. There is a lot of stop and go commute traffic around here. My 22re truck is far to gutless to be auto, though. If I was buying a new Toyota truck, or any appliance automobile, auto would be the way to go. For a fun car like the STi, MT is the only option I would consider.

ever hear the rumor that the last gen m5 was quicker to the 1/4 by skipping a gear?

those germans are also electronically limited at 155 and top speed is around 185 or so. i think that is about 20 more than my auto legacy gt.

fwiw

I have no idea how you're relating that to what I said.

I'm sick of it!
I hate my 5 speed. In the streets or on the highways I'm always really high in the RPM's, which I hate a lot.
I really miss my 6 speed. Manual is only ok if it's a 6 speed, I will never own another 5 speed in my life!

Most 6 speeds have nearly the same top gear ratio as a 5 speed there's just smaller steps in between to improve acceleration and allow you to keep the engine at optimum RPM.

... That's a lot of shifting in a little time frame. I try to stick to it, but sometimes you gotta stick to what Ricky Bobby says in Talidaga Nights "I wanna go fast..."

Shake and bake.....

only sometimes when subaru's legendary tranny doesn't want to go into reverse

I'm confused...

it's about 5 speeds vs 6.

with a 12krpm engine a 6 speed tranny is good. 7k engine i think a 5 would do fine.

imo...the speeds have been abused to overcome a lack of power and over weight. yes i realize the m5 and mercs have 7 gears. it goes deeper than this.

Most 6 speeds have nearly the same top gear ratio as a 5 speed there's just smaller steps in between to improve acceleration and allow you to keep the engine at optimum RPM.


this is weird. going straight in wot the engine on a 6 speed is what? 2.5k rpm's in the top of the tach? this is where i dont get why people concentrate soo much on mid range power since you are never there.

autox is another story though where it's about opposite.

i would never get tired of a manual. For a couple reasons:

1 - Hella more fun then an auto
2 - More aware of my speed(ive gotten 5 tickets in my old stratus auto and none in my STi)
3 - alot more fun for the drifty drifty
4 - alot harder to race an auto...
5 - easy to tone down the exhaust note when driving home early in the morning to not tick off the neighbors!

^_^

I love automatics. I like manuals to. Lot of odd reasons people are coming up with for having manual transmissions.
"I'd rather have a total piece of crap manual than any automatic."
Come on people, lose the elitist attitude.

the auto is a good piece of technology imo.

most manufacturers build them pretty ****ty though.
I totally agree with this statement. The 4EAT would be so much better if it was a 5EAT or 6EAT, but I think that has been mentioned 100 times on here before. Automakers are changing though like you mentioned later in your post. Nissan and some other's are making shiftless transmissions that tie into the engine computer to adjust rpms based on how much gas pedal you give it. If they keep on improving this technology and if it becomes competitive people will starts ditching the MT for the AT (not sure they will still call it an AT) for performance and ease of use. The only thing people will miss is jumping on the gas and "dumping" it, but most people find out that MTs don't handle that abuse well anyways. The fact is that a well built machine can almost always outperform a human when physics are put into play. In regards to ATs though I believe we are still waiting for that machine. (unless you own a handful of supercars) I have an automatic for two reasons. I live, work, eat, and sleep in the city. I am a 9 -5er. If I did have a manual it would see 3rd gear maybe twice a week. The second reason is because my wife can't quite catch onto the idea of how a manual works and since we only have two cars she needs to drive mine every once in awhile if her's is in the shop. An Impreza is not a good car to teach how to drive a manual. I do not want to be replacing clutches. I do wish I had a manual when we go up to the blue ridge mountains to play once in awhile, but it's just not practical.

That hard 1-2 shift everyone is talking about, I always assumed it was the awd making the car buck back and forth. I've seen some threads of people with their first awd car and asking why is it when everytime they're in low gear and about 3-4k rpms and they take their foot off the throttle the car would start bucking. And everyone would respond "its the awd". I always associated that with shifting too because it's somewhat of the same thing, kinda..?

I don't know, maybe I'm talking about something else?

That hard 1-2 shift everyone is talking about, I always assumed it was the awd making the car buck back and forth. I've seen some threads of people with their first awd car and asking why is it when everytime they're in low gear and about 3-4k rpms and they take their foot off the throttle the car would start bucking. And everyone would respond "its the awd". I always associated that with shifting too because it's somewhat of the same thing, kinda..?

I don't know, maybe I'm talking about something else?

Thats interesting. I haven't heard that it's the AWD before. Most people I ask just say that subarus tend to be very jumpy like that.

Thats interesting. I haven't heard that it's the AWD before. Most people I ask just say that subarus tend to be very jumpy like that.

I stand by my belief that many of the complaints (not all) are because people don't know how to drive correctly. The WRX gearbox is less forgiving that the Toyota, Honda, and even 2.5i gearboxes. My dad has driven a manual for almost 40 years and can't drive smoothly in the WRX without tons of clutch-slipping because it is unforgiving of his lack of precision in timing shifts and controlling the throttle smoothly.

I only just learned to drive stick this past summer, and now that I have, I want to ditch my daily automatic for a manual. Anyone want to give me $30K so I can do it? :D

I love automatics. I like manuals to. Lot of odd reasons people are coming up with for having manual transmissions.
"I'd rather have a total piece of crap manual than any automatic."
Come on people, lose the elitist attitude.

Well, not ANY piece of crap, but most hunks of junk :D

I don't see what's elitist about it. It's not like they think they're better because they have a manual and you prefer 4EAT.

Consider it symphathy instead ;)

Different strokes for different folks is fine, I have no problem with that...until some automakers start talking about phasing the MTX out, then it's war...

Well, not ANY piece of crap, but most hunks of junk :D

I don't see what's elitist about it. It's not like they think they're better because they have a manual and you prefer 4EAT.

Consider it symphathy instead ;)

Different strokes for different folks is fine, I have no problem with that...until some automakers start talking about phasing the MTX out, then it's war...
I agree completely, and I am probably just as bad about the auto vs. manual debate.
I LOVE to argue with people that assume they have a faster vehicle just because it's a manual.
I've also had many people argue that they could shift faster than a good automatic.... :D :lol:
But....stock for stock, I have to agree. Normally the manual version of a vehicle is more exciting. I just want people to open their eyes to the joys of an automatic set up to work like it was meant to.

so i got this 95 impreza 1.8 the other day and i'm getting tired if the stick, are the 5 speeds just a crappy tranny? seems to be real jumpy between first and second. does anyone knmow the best rpm to shift at? the other gears i do just fine....... thanks dudes...........

learn how to shift properly and your car will be smooth.

Took me about a year to get the damn thing for 'smooth sailing'

05 wrx: i shift at 3k regular, 3.5kish uphill, 2.5-3kish downhill. traffic: 2.5k

spirited driving: 4.5k




freeway onramps if i'm in a little extreme mood: 6.5k....ish....

yea... :devil:

oh....and don't jump the clutch, smooth ride it out, we're not drag racing at every light, no need to shift at 28039492375 miles an hour. take your time and do it properly, will save you a transmission, headache, and impress the ladies more.

The only time I get tired of manual is in really bad stop and go traffic. The five speed in my WRX pisses me off sometimes too I get locked out of 1st and have to start in 2nd gear. Plus gear changes could be smoother. but once you actually get to drive manual kicks a$$.

FWIW, if you haven't tried it yet, try blipping the throttle before putting the clutch in and shifting into 1st gear....that usually does it for me when I'm in traffic.

Of course, half the time, I'm too damn lazy and I throw it back in 2nd, but I just wanted to see if you tried the suggestion first...

Nope. I would however get tired of an automatic.

After long days at work I dont feel like sitting in traffic with a stage two and I wish I had an Auto. But I come to relize Auto is a little boring and I rather be hitting the clutch. Does anyone else go to hit a "clutch" when driving an auto? I do.

Well, from time to time I have to say I wish I bought an automatic, expecially when I need to go up those 40 degress ramp on YMCA underground parking lot.

But other than that, I pretty much enjoy the control I have in a manual transmission car. But I am still very scared of breaking the transmission. There's a very good chance that I will trade in my WRX to a STI in 08 or so. (I hope they have DSG by then!!!)

And try to step on the clutch when I drive in an automatic?? Everytime!! My hand also tries to reach the stick as well!!

i would never get tired of a manual. For a couple reasons:

4 - alot harder to race an auto...


^_^

you sure about that?

there is no shift to miss, nothing to bog, no stalling.

gauranteed exact shift points every time.

I want to see how the Evo X "sequential" transmission works. Plus I like the idea of full-time auto mode for those lazy/traffic moments.

well if you are getting old you might want to get in auto to feel comfortable but i still would have a manual trans car for weekend fun

you sure about that?

there is no shift to miss, nothing to bog, no stalling.

gauranteed exact shift points every time.

What auto are you driving? No bog? I wouldn't mind driving whatever 4EAT you have :lol:

hmmm does it have the same tranny as my 93 Legacy Turbo?

My 5spd feels like a stick in dog crap

Thats interesting. I haven't heard that it's the AWD before. Most people I ask just say that subarus tend to be very jumpy like that.

Probably. I'm just guessing because i've driven a miata and just recently i was riding in my friends accord and both times i was prepared for a jumpy response because i'm so use to it but got nothing.

I dont know, maybe i should just test out different cars.

I hate the 4EAT with a passion

I've been driving an automatic for almost a year now and I miss driving manual like you wouldn't believe. After I switched to automatic, it took me a couple of weeks to get used to not having to shift. But, I won't complain TOO much about an automatic.

The only time I get tired of manual is in really bad stop and go traffic. The five speed in my WRX pisses me off sometimes too I get locked out of 1st and have to start in 2nd gear. Plus gear changes could be smoother. but once you actually get to drive manual kicks a$$.
Thank god, i was thinking something was wrong w/ my syncro. sometimes if it keeps up i just restart the bas-tard.

No comparison. I love driving manual!!!!

Driving a manual tranny is all about driver envolvement. When I rent an automatic, I feel disconnected from the car. Although, automatics outsell Manuals by far...the American way is just put it in drive, sit back and go...we are such a lazy nation.

ill drive manuals for the rest of my life

i had a teacher in college that had only one arm and drove an STI iirc he also had a 911 and a few other toys

he said he would never give manuals up

Thank god, i was thinking something was wrong w/ my syncro. sometimes if it keeps up i just restart the bas-tard.

You mean you shut the engine off? What would that do :confused:

Double clutching will fix that issue.

Nope uh uh, never!

What auto are you driving? No bog? I wouldn't mind driving whatever 4EAT you have :lol:

07 gt with 5eat.

the si-drive changes the tranny characteristics to boot.

I made the desision to get an automatic rather than a manual when I bought my Impreza. My previous car had been a manual and driving in city traffic was a pain.

One thing you will discover about the 4EAT is it sucks . . . if you just leave it in D. If you down-shift whenever possible it comes to life. I've won my class at a RallyX before with my largely stock 4EAT TS (stock powertain, upgraded suspension).

i have an auto impreza too but i always leave it in D, i seriously think im going to break it if i move into another gear, i have no idea how to shift in an auto... ive driven a manual car 3 times and i know how to shift better in that :lol:

Does anyone else go to hit a "clutch" when driving an auto? I do.

all the time. i only have 1 car and its auto...
guess its just wishful thinking at work... hand on the shifter, foot on the invisible clutch :(

The only time I get tired of manual is in really bad stop and go traffic. The five speed in my WRX pisses me off sometimes too I get locked out of 1st and have to start in 2nd gear. Plus gear changes could be smoother. but once you actually get to drive manual kicks a$$.

are you still rolling while trying to put it in first? try double clutching

if your gonna put it in another gear let off the gas and put it in a gear where it's good for the speed rangem kinda like a manual, but switch at lower rpm's i'd say

are you still rolling while trying to put it in first? try double clutching

when you double clutch to put it in first how much do you blip the throttle?...i've only double clutched a few times with my car....gets to be very annoying.

so i got this 95 impreza 1.8 the other day and i'm getting tired if the stick, are the 5 speeds just a crappy tranny? seems to be real jumpy between first and second. does anyone knmow the best rpm to shift at? the other gears i do just fine....... thanks dudes...........



HELLLL NOOOOO!!!

I have a company truck I drive all day, and that's an auto.
When the time comes to drive my wrx, it's play time, and that manual is a blast to drive.

?!?!?! Love the manual!!!!

I agree with everyone else. I wouldn't give up the manual for anything.

On the 04, I've found shifting below 3k (2750) produces a nice smooth shift from first to second. It works out if you're not trying to drag race :)

I've learned that it's all about slipping the clutch. Slipping clutch saves trannies.

The only time I get tired of manual is in really bad stop and go traffic. The five speed in my WRX pisses me off sometimes too I get locked out of 1st and have to start in 2nd gear. Plus gear changes could be smoother. but once you actually get to drive manual kicks a$$.

Yeah, instead of reading the other 10 pages in the thread, I'm just going to quote this guy and agree completely with him. Stick sucks in stop and go traffic, but otherwise it completely kicks ass.

What I hate with automatics, is that it seems like there is a little bit of a delay from when you push the gas to when the car goes. Also the things upshift and downshift when I don't need it too.

Drive 30,000 miles a year in LA traffic and then post. I have to drive from south Orange County up to Ventura County, Palmdale, Lancaster, Corona, etc. I have owned nothing but manuals until I moved down here. My first two cars here were manuals too, but after spending 3 hours in traffic nursing a 350z home, I quickly became a convert.

I still have my 1972 240z (with a 4-speed) when I want to have fun.

I once told a girl that I was learning to do clutchless shifting so my left leg doesn't get tired. Her response was "maybe you need to go to the gym if your leg gets tired from pushing the clutch"

I've reformed my thinking...is it really that much more effort?

And I have commuted in traffic for a year Baltimore to DC (2 hours each way on a good day), it sucked, but not from having a manual car. Having to ride the brake all the time would have annoyed me more. I guess it's all about what you learned on. I've driven manual since I was 15 and never had an auto, so the auto is more effort for me.

Actually, yes.

My Forester has the STi organic clutch and STi clutch line on it. The pedal is so freaking heavy on it. I recently took over the wifes 95 OBS as a daily driver (The Forester is a bit dodgey in the snow) and actually enjoy the hell out of it. I just finished up my suspension lift on it and found the 4EAT to be great for off-roading.

Drive 30,000 miles a year in LA traffic and then post. I have to drive from south Orange County up to Ventura County, Palmdale, Lancaster, Corona, etc. I have owned nothing but manuals until I moved down here. My first two cars here were manuals too, but after spending 3 hours in traffic nursing a 350z home, I quickly became a convert.

I still have my 1972 240z (with a 4-speed) when I want to have fun.

Wah.

I drive RT from Santa Clarita to work in Venice everyday. On the hell pike that is the 405. NOT once have I ever wish I had an auto.

NEVER!! Even in traffic it doesn't bother me that much at all. Automatic's FTL

hells yes!

Heavy traffic almost makes me hate it but i would never trade it for the world

I like having a manual in traffic, just leave it in second, i hated riding my brake pedal in my old auto, which seemed like alot more work than pushing it in and out...

My '04 RS has a 4EAT. I wanted a WRX but did not have the cash for one, all I read about the RS was that it was basically a WRX w/o turbo. (Yes, I know that is a over simplified description!) My car was the only one on the lot so I bought it. I have had plenty of cars with MTs so I really don't miss it. My RS does not "bog," she shifts very smoothly and appropriately. AND driving is NOT all about shifting!!

AND driving is NOT all about shifting!!

But it is over half the fun!

I love driving manual. I just hate it when I drive the car in the heart of NYC specially with a heavy clutch.

i agree with dan4bosox, while shifting is fun, it's not all their is, gives you time to enjoy the rest of it...........

I've yet to experience the heavy clutch feeling. I'm still on the stock clutch, but given that I'm stage IV I am sure that I will need a new (heavier, too) clutch.

Guess I have something to NOT look forward to...

I'm on ACT HD Street Clutch for more than a year and I got used to it. Alot of my friends test drove my car with the recent clutch and ask me how I drive the car with such a heavy clutch. I told them I got used to it.