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Aquamist
01-21-2007, 03:27 PM
Detailed study of the new HFS-5 system and the concept behind the designed.


http://www.aquamist.co.uk/forum/gallery/HFS/HFS-5m.jpg


Design aim of the HFS-5 water/methanol injection system:
In order to maximize of effect of water/methanol injection, the rate of delivery should be closely related to the real time engine operating parameters. The first objective is finding a signal that is comparable to the engine’s cooling/octane demand at the exact moment in time.

Finding the signal to match engine’s demand:
Load sensors such as throttle position, mass air flow and MAP sensor are a prime signal source of engine load. But without RPM reference, these sensors are only representing a two dimensional impression. For example, MAF sensor without RPM reference only measures air consumption, regardless of gearing or boost pressure. The engine could be cruising at high speed (less stress) or it can be travelling at 20mph on a rally stage under extreme load and high temperature stress. The same chunk of MAF signal cannot represent the engine’s running condition overall.

Why tracking fuel injector duty cycle:
With the help of the modern engine management system, the same chunk of MAF signal, coupled up with a bunch of signals gathered from sensors such as ‘air temperature’, ‘coolant temperature’ and ‘EGT’ (interpreting the lambda probe’s heater element) and of course, engine speed. It will make an informed judgment when to add or trim fuel depending on the real-time operating environments. The final decision made by the management will be reflected by the duty cycle of the fuel injector. The HFS-5 uses this IDC signal to meter flow.

Picking the correct delivery method and hardware to complete the task:
We have ruled out the variable pump-speed delivery system for a numbers of reasons. Due to the inertia of the rotating mass, variable pump-speed system is not responsive to the fast changing engine load at various throttle openings and engine speed changes, especially during gear shifts. Flow range is narrow due to limited pressure span. It requires 4x the pressure change to produce twice the flow change. Poor atomisation and pulsating line pressure at low pump speed is an inherent characteristic of such a system. Without consistent droplet size is vital to inlet cooling and even cylinder distribution, one will always tune for cylinder receiving the least cooling, resulting over-injection on other cylinders.

HFS-5 chooses the well established method for fluid delivery:
Decision was made to employ the ‘tried and tested’ delivery system similar to a fuel injection system to meter fluid flow. A 150W heavy duty pump is made specially for us by Shurflo USA. Equipped with three 125psi internal by-pass valves provides the regulated system pressure. A surge arrestor/accumulator refines the low-ripple further. A high-speed stainless inline valve completes the line up. This valve is capable of flow over a litre of fluid at 125psi. A dedicated controller reads the fuel injector’s duty cycle % and channels it to the inline valve.

A dash gauge displays the flow information from a digital turbine flow sensor:
Failsafe is serviced by the Aquamist’s proven DDS3 module, which is designed to go further then just detect clogged jet/nozzle and cut hose…..this device can give visual feedback on a partially clogged jet/nozzle. Two switched outputs provide the necessary interface with device such as boost control valve and map switch equipped engine controllers.

HFS-5 meets all criteria of a reliable and highly precise fluid delivery system:
We believe the HFS-5 is the only fluid delivery system that meets the minimum requirement for achieving full integration into your tuning programme, with absolute precision. Tracking the fuel delivery is the most reliable method to meter your water/methanol flow accurately under the whole engine operating range. Anything short of this means having to tailor your fuel map to compensate the irregular fluid quantity ingested by the engine.
Should you decided not to mirror the fuel flow in your future upgrade programme, the HFS-5 system can read a PWM output from a third party engine management controller so a custom water/methanol map can be created.

Aquamist
01-21-2007, 07:32 PM
post deleted

ShaggyGT
01-21-2007, 07:55 PM
Good stuff Richard.

Just to note, you cant view the thread without being a member. Maybe post some of the details of the group buy here to make it easier for those who dont want to register on the SRTForums.

-Matt
PDP

Aquamist
01-21-2007, 08:25 PM
Hello Matt,

I will relocate the GB thread on a subforum that is accessable to all. Thank you for notifying me.

Aquamist
01-21-2007, 08:42 PM
Link is revised - no signing in is required.

ShaggyGT
01-21-2007, 08:44 PM
No problem Richard.

This is a great time for those who are deciding on wether or not to purchase a water injection kit to get a great deal on the best kit on the market. It comes with all the cool features and safeguards to ensure a rock solid and safe water injection setup.

-Matt

Aquamist
01-21-2007, 09:12 PM
Matt,

The system offered is only a bit above the System 1s. But only limited to 25 units across five boards. After the 15th of February or all units sold, which ever comes sooner. The HFS-5 system will be at the MRRP immediately. If all things being equal, there are only 5 systems per board.

djerickd
01-21-2007, 10:02 PM
awesome price! jump on this people!

humara
01-22-2007, 11:32 PM
omg!!!
wtf???

i jumped. i jumped.
hfs
FTW!!!!

dsm02c
01-25-2007, 01:34 AM
I jumped....

djerickd
01-25-2007, 01:46 AM
that 07 is gonna be a beast!

Aquamist
01-25-2007, 02:34 PM
Ten orders has been filled after three days, price has now dropped to the next price break today.

humara
01-26-2007, 05:35 PM
wow wow wee wow
25 confirmed.
now i gotta figure out how to put this thing together!

Aquamist
01-26-2007, 07:09 PM
I will be on this thread to help...

epoth
01-27-2007, 12:53 PM
Man, that sucks... gone for a few days and group buy happens and is closed. Oh well I guess. :(

ride5000
01-29-2007, 10:56 AM
richard, are the components pictured above available separately?

i am interested in a pump, hsv, and a couple of nozzles.

tia
ken

Aquamist
01-29-2007, 11:37 AM
One of our US dealer called Georges import can supply them to you.

contact details:
Georges Imports Ltd
8011 State Line Road
Kansas City
MO 64114
USA
TEL: +1 816 333 6582
FAX: +1 816 361 2096
Email: brad@kcsaab.com
Website: www.kcsaab.com
Contact: Brad Schaffner

STIStalker
01-29-2007, 12:18 PM
awesome price! jump on this people!

I didn't see the price anywhere.. How much? Are they still available?

siliversti06
01-29-2007, 01:07 PM
i cant find the pirce anywhere also. are they still avaliable? if so, add me on, and send me the link on how to pay. thanx

Aquamist
01-29-2007, 01:13 PM
The offer is closed on Friday last week when it reached the allocated 25 units. Put your name down as a reserve in case someone drops out.

contact:
Jack Blalock [jackblalock@gmail.com]

siliversti06
01-29-2007, 01:19 PM
thanx

FleaDog
01-29-2007, 09:20 PM
PM sent

Zak Shaker
02-04-2008, 04:11 PM
what was the price of this ? totaly missed that thread...
or what will be the official price then ? as I couldn't find much info on this unit...

Aquamist
02-04-2008, 05:32 PM
The HFS-5 system comprised of: MRRP: $895
- Constant pressure system - very low pressure ripple (factory set to 125psi)
- High speed PWM valve ensure accurate flow control against fuel duty cycle.
- Fast dymanic response time to load and RPM change
- Consistant droplet size due to high system pressure under all conditions.
- Powerful 150 Watt Shurflo pump motor capable of maintaining flow beyond 2 litre/minute
- DDS3 (bundled) ensures flow is monitored constantly for clogged jet or cut hose.
- 2x failsafe channels to perform advanced failsafe tasks such as boost cut, map switch, etc.
- Water and methanol compatible (0-100%)

Link to HFS-5 (user manual):
http://www.aquamist.co.uk/forum/gallery/HFS/HFS-5-v3w.pdf

Link to a HFS-5 dyno session:
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1332521

Flambeau water/methanol tanks:
http://fluids.flambeau.com

Phone:
Toll Free: 866-836-0198
or 706-342-8300 ext 308

Address:
1330 Atlanta Hwy
Madison, GA 30650 USA