Please E-Mail ( CrucialRacing@gmail.com ) if you have a turbo you would like done! We'll get you the shipping details and whatnot in response.

We're ready to roll out our Crucial Racing Systems turbocharger services in full force! We've been doing it on an as-asked basis for a while, and it's time to take it to the next level.

What we offer is a full port, polish, and thermal coat of both sides of the turbo. Each side gets ported by a true master, who has been doing this for ~ 36 years. He ports with the intention of improving the efficiency of the turbo, and does nothing just for aesthetics. He is capable of actually porting up inside of the 'snail' where much of the largest improvements to the turbo's efficiency come from.

After the porting is done, the turbine housing (exhaust side) gets thermal barrier coated as per our process HERE (www.crucialracing.com/products/coating.php). This keeps the heat inside of the exhaust gas where it belongs, keeping energy and velocity high and improving turbo spool and response. Also, it significantly lowers the amount of heat radiated by the turbine and this drops underhood temperatures. The compressor housing is then thermal dispersant coated. This unique coating improves a metal's ability to radiate heat into the air around it (also very popular on intercoolers, radiators, oil pans, brake calipers, cylinder heads, etc). The compressor housing stays cooler because of this coating, and outlet temperatures drop. Lower outlet temps means less work for your intercooler and cooler air entering the engine. Efficiency of the turbo -- on both sides -- is further enhanced with these professional and very functional coatings. Plus.... they come out jet black and dead sexy :cool:

The gentleman who does the porting work charges $500 for this exact service for the various race teams and individuals that he does it for. Thanks to a special arrangement we have, we are able to offer the service to you for $275 to $300! The price spread is there because some turbos take longer than others and some arrive in better condition (rust, etc) than others. The only extra cost is return shipping to you.

Turn around is ~ two weeks from arrival of the turbo here to when we ship it back out. Usually it only takes one, but please plan for two just in case.

Here are some pictures of various finished turbos! ...again, please e-mail for details on how to send us your turbo for this service...


FP Green

http://www.crucialracing.com/images/services/FPGreenCompressor.jpg
http://www.crucialracing.com/images/services/FPGreenBottom.jpg
http://www.crucialracing.com/images/services/IMG_0933.jpg
http://www.crucialracing.com/images/services/IMG_0937.jpg

GT 30/35/65's

http://www.crucialracing.com/images/services/GT65Compressor.jpg
http://www.crucialracing.com/images/services/IMG_0929.jpg

....with a few VF40's from Legacy GT's thrown in for size comparison purposes...

http://www.wrxfanatics.com/uploads/post-44-1156558421.jpg



Jeremy

WOW!!! Amazing Work!!!! I'd like to get my TD04 done, but I kind of need it to keep the rex running. Any kind of core exchange program???

Chris

Chris --

Not yet. Hopefully we'll be able to do that soon. However, it's not quite as easy with turbochargers to do that as it is with, for example, exhaust manifolds or TGV's. The bearing cartridges in turbos actually are wear and tear items and a core exchange is sort of asking for issues..... we'd much rather do your specific turbo and not get them mixed up because the physical state of the turbo will be known to you. Although, it would be possible for us to simply send the housings and you send your stock housings back. That way you keep your cartridge. The housings are shockingly easy to take off and put back on... anybody could do it. That's probably what would happen if we got a core exchange deal going, but that likely wont be for a while. If you really can't have your car down and really want it done, you might want to purchase a used turbo and have the service done to that. You can always then sell the other used turbo for the same amount later and not be out any money in the long term :)

btw -- usually I tell people with TD04's to save their money. It's such a small turbo and responds and spools so quickly as-is, that the P&P&C work doesn't make a difference that you can feel very easily. It's still good stuff, but I just don't think the bang for the buck is there like it is in basically any larger turbo (any VF-series and up). We're happy to do it, of course, but I do have an interest in helping people get the most for their $$$ and putting that much work into a TD04 might not do that.....

Jeremy

lookin to send you a VF30, but its already ported, just looking to get it coated, how much??

P&P&C on a VF30, price? How much of a difference will I notice? Thanks
-Joe

P&P&C on a VF30, price? How much of a difference will I notice? Thanks
-Joe

no diffrence in power just more efficiant.. i have it done to mine

lookin to send you a VF30, but its already ported, just looking to get it coated, how much??
Good question... About ~ $80 for the turbine housing and ~ $50 for the compressor.

P&P&C on a VF30, price? How much of a difference will I notice? Thanks
-Joe
Prices and stuff are in the first post. It's $300-$325 depending on how much work the turbo requires. Most are $300 and it goes up if it's like super duper rusty or for whatever reason just takes more time than usual.

Quicker spool and better response for certain. Hopefully a couple/few hundred rpm of quicker spool. Engine bay temps will drop. In theory there should be a power improvement also because of the increase in efficiency and reduction in compressor outlet temps. It's hard to pin down numbers because they're small differences and the cars vary that much run-to-run on a dyno without changing a thing so when you're talking about HP that you can count on one hand it's basically not proveable or consistently repeatable. We don't market this as a power mod for that reason. It's spool and response and thermal management... But remember that a few hundred rpm of quicker spool means a bigger powerband and it does mean that you are adding significant amounts of HP in that rpm range and often it makes a touch more up top also.

Jeremy

Are you guys doing throttle bodies?

Quicker spool and better response for certain. Hopefully a couple/few hundred rpm of quicker spool. Engine bay temps will drop. In theory there should be a power improvement also because of the increase in efficiency and reduction in compressor outlet temps. It's hard to pin down numbers because they're small differences and the cars vary that much run-to-run on a dyno without changing a thing so when you're talking about HP that you can count on one hand it's basically not proveable or consistently repeatable. We don't market this as a power mod for that reason. It's spool and response and thermal management... But remember that a few hundred rpm of quicker spool means a bigger powerband and it does mean that you are adding significant amounts of HP in that rpm range and often it makes a touch more up top also.

Jeremy

One thing about Crucial Racing I have always liked, very good about giving thorough info on questions asked. Thanks for the info!!! I don't have the $ for this now, but maybe in the future.
-Joe

Are you guys doing throttle bodies?
Not usually. There isn't a bunch that can be done without actually machining them for a new plate and we don't generally do that. There are a couple companies that have exchange deals for those out there right now if you're interested. We have done some light P&P work on them just to smooth things out and optimize them as best as possible but what can be done is somewhat limited... basically I'm just not sure it makes a real world difference that justifies the cost of doing it.

Thanks for the quick response

I read in some other post that you are porting and coating factory exhaust manifods. Is this true? And if so, what are you charging?

Shawn

I read in some other post that you are porting and coating factory exhaust manifods. Is this true? And if so, what are you charging?

Shawn
Yes, please e-mail if you're interested in getting that done. We have an e-mail waiting list since we can't quite keep up with demand on them. Sorry for copy-and-pasting, but details on how it works and the current pricing is as follows:

"For the Ported, Polished, and Thermal Barrier Coated (as per our process HERE (www.crucialracing.com/products/coating.php) ) manifolds we usually do it as a core exchange program. So we'll get you a finished set and you send your stock ones back when you swap them. For the past eight months or so we've been working with like a month++ waiting list on them, but we're finally semi caught up and a few sets are finishing up next week, although some are spoken for. The cost for the service to the manifolds is $275. Add $15 if you want a tap for an EGT probe (and we'll ship it with a plug in the event that you know you want an EGT gauge eventually but don't have one yet). In addition, there is a $125 core fee. This fee is FULLY refunded as soon as your usable stock manifolds arrive back here. It's just to give people an incentive to send their stock ones back to us, because we need them in order to have an exchange program like this and we found that without it people simply 'forget' to send their stock ones back.

We're working on our own crosspipe, but for the time being we offer the Injen ones for $245, which includes thermal barrier coating. They're a nice piece and do make power, and our version probably wont be ready for a while... couple, maybe few, months... "


Jeremy

Just finished up a nice Greddy :)

...a couple more turbos are in the works right now. Keep 'em coming! They really turn out great :cool: ...

Jeremy

Jeremy, sorry if I missed this in your info above, but what do you charge to coat a set of aftermarket (Perrin) headers? I haven't see these yet in person (about to order them) so I don't know what the collectors look like.
Anyway, I'd be interested in just coating them and tapping them for an EGT bung (assuming that they don't need to be p&p).

Thanks.

$200 for most headers like that (that don't include uppipe... so Borla, Perrin, Gruppe-S, etc etc) as per our process here: www.crucialracing.com/products/coating.php

Every one is slightly different in terms of collectors. We have actually done a lot of P&P work on Perrin headers that come in for coating and touch up. Sometimes there are pretty fat lips inside of the flanges and the collector right before the uppipe flange sometimes has a lip and/or welding slag and whatnot. Don't get me wrong!.... they perform great and they're nice. Nothing against the product or Perrin WHATSOEVER. I try to bite my tongue in public but speaking just from a P&P perspective we are asked by customers (not us suggesting it) to do that work on the Perrin headers for nearly every one that we coat. There's usually about 30 minutes to an hour of work necessary.

Since it's stainless piping, not thick cast iron like an OEM manifold, they cannot be just drilled and tapped for an EGT probe. We actually have to drill a hole and weld an EGT bung on. Not a problem... we have stainless EGT bungs in stock and can TIG weld one on for you.

Please e-mail (crucialracing@gmail.com) for details on that stuff....

Jeremy

would it be worth doing a vf22?

Absolutely. The 22 is a pretty old turbo in design and the castings leave plenty of room for improvement. I think this is one of those turbos where you can really get a few hundred rpm of quicker spool from a good P&P&C job.

can you guys weld the wastegate since you have it there? Also do you also ways paint the housing in black?

Yes, we can TIG weld the wastegate shut for you.

If the guys who do the coating heard it called paint they would flip out :p. It's always black. Black is the only pigment that stands up to those kinds of sustained temperatures reliably. The dispersant is black for other reasons... but is only black as well.

Black is the new chrome :)

Jeremy

yea i figured that i would get some flack calling it paint

pm me with info on how and where to send everything

Thanks guys, you've been keeping us busy! But we can handle more so keep 'em coming!!! :D

Jeremy

You guys seem to have a very popular Thermal Barrier Coating (TBC). I was just curious if you have any hard data of thermal conductivity, or even just logs of exhause gas temperature inside of the exhaust versus the relative temperature outside of the exhause manifold or turbine housing? How close of a relationship do you have with the producer of the coating ie: could you get a color change? What I mean by this is you will see a decrease in thermal conductivity if the coating had a higher emissivity. I'm just curious why it always seems that exhaust coatings are black when if they were silver or white they would perform even better...

Yeah ideally -- for the purposes of radiating as little heat as physically possible -- it would be a light color or, even better, smooth and glossy like chrome. We can do ceramic barrier coatings that are chrome, like in the pictures I'm going to upload.

However, the reason the coating we use is jet black is because the other coatings do not hold up to the temperatures created by a turbocharged car for long enough... they break down. The pigments can't handle it and the chrome looking coating will brown/dull and eventually fail. For a typical N/A car or a hot rod or whatever, the chrome coating works fine and is popular... it's also shiny and people like shiny ;).

For our cars the black works the best and holds up the best. It's still EXTREMELY effective. The company that develops the coating has spend A LOT of time and money on R&D... they employ chemists and physicists and race car drivers and spend time in the lab and on the track. I know from my times in physics classes and reading various books on these kinds of subjects that what you said is correct and theoretically it would work better, but it seems that in the real life application it doesn't pan out into very much of a difference in performance and the reliability of having it black is worth it.

For reference, going from the stock uppipe and/or downpipe to our coated uppipe and/or downpipe not only doesn't raise underhood and intercooler temps compared to the OEM parts (and bare stainless parts of this sort absolutely make temps skyrocket), it actually drops temps. A legit, large enough to easily to feel with just your face/hands when you open the hood, reduction in temperatures vs. the oem parts with all of their heat shielding.

...and another thing that helps w/ our parts is that they're made in the US of A with thick, US 304 stainless steel. Materials thickness is directly related to heat conduction and the gauge of piping in our uppipe and downpipe is WAY thicker than anything coming from China, Taiwan, and the like... and 304 conducts a hell of a lot less heat than mild steel and less than 400-series...


I know I end up getting into various talks on here with people who bring stuff from physics class and, yes, a lot of that stuff works in the frictionless vacuums where people live in the physics books but doesn't really pan out in a real life environment. That's not the case here as I believe you would see a slight reduction in radiated heat were the parts shiny or a light color instead of black, but the company has decided that it doesn't work in real life and doesn't hold up to the kinds of temps we see so hey... we're happy with the results on this end :)

Hope it helps! Sorry for the novel...

Jeremy



edit: whoops, pictures of the chrome coating (not recommended for any exhaust parts on our cars)

http://www.wrxfanatics.com/uploads/monthly_04_2007/post-2908-1175806740.jpg

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how much to coat the housings on a gt-35r (.82 exahust housing) what is the turn around when you just coat the housings?

Turn around would be a week to week-and-a-half from the time it arrives here until they ship back out to you. Not exactly sure on cost since we very rarely do just coatings... usually it's the entire P&P&C package and there is P&P work that is effective on the GT30/35 turbos. For just coating it'll come in somewhere in the range of $150 to $200... Please e-mail me at CrucialRacing@gmail.com if you need a more accurate quote than that and I'll work one up for you.

Thanks.

Jeremy

Where exactly in the Bay Area are you located?

Crucial is in San Francisco. I can likely meet you in the South Bay somewhere though to pick up/drop off the turbo, as I drive down there once a week. The shop that does most of our coatings is in the San Jose area.

Please e-mail (crucialracing@gmail.com) if you want to set something up. I'll be driving down there tomorrow! Otherwise, of course, you're welcome to come by the shop here and drop stuff off.

Jeremy

do you also pnp and coat tgv's? i have a set that i'm thinking about having this done to. how much for such a service? also, would you know if tgv's from an 02 wrx would fit my 04 wrx? thanks.

Yeah we P&P TGV's.

Can't think of any reason whatsoever to coat them though, although we have in the past for a couple of customers who just wanted them black... although even that's pushing it since you can barely see them when they're installed. There's just no coating that would be functional on them. Since they bolt directly to the cylinder heads they're going to get really hot whether or not they're coated... simply doesn't matter. If you barrier coat them, all they're going to do is retain even more heat than they might have before. The coating I would consider doing is the thermal dispersant coating that we do on intercoolers, radiators, cylinder heads, oil pans, brake calipers/rotors, etc... anything that you want to dissipate heat as quickly as possible. Can improve the efficiency of an intercooler or radiator or the like by up to 20% and it really does work! However... it needs airflow to function. The TGVs don't get a lot of air flowing over the outside of them because of their location in the engine bay and because they're surrounded by all sorts of other stuff. It just wouldn't be functional.

^^^ so.... don't waste your money on coating them $0.02

What we do is a FULL P&P on the TGVs. The rods get taken out, the dividers get ported out, the TGV's get gasket matched to the intake port gaskets and absolutely everything inside of the TGV is ported smooth and then it is professionally finished with the correct texture. ALSO... the holes where the rods used to be are first TIG welded shut and the weld is ported smooth. No crappy "plugs" screwed into the outside holes :p . These puppies are welded solid before the porting is done.

It's $200 and that includes return shipping to you and the welding, etc.

All of the top-feed injector cars (WRX) have identical TGVs.

Jeremy



This is near the beginning of the process... the TGV's have been fully roughed out at this point. You can see there are NO holes from the rods (on the inside sides or external wall sides of the runners)... they were TIG welded shut and then ported smooth.

http://www.wrxfanatics.com/uploads/monthly_04_2007/post-2908-1177089898.jpg

This is a finished product

http://www.wrxfanatics.com/uploads/monthly_04_2007/post-2908-1177089887.jpg

as always, a thorough explanation....thanks, jeremy...i'll be sending out my tgv's when i'm ready!!

jeremy, what sort of gaskets will i need to get when i have my tgv's put back on? where can i buy? thanks.

with the tgv porting, is it absolutely necessary to port the intake manifold, too? thanks....

No, we don't touch the intake manifold unless the customer really wants it for some reason. The diameter is already just fine... already a touch larger than the gasket that goes between it and the TGVs actually... and there's nothing wrong with the casting. Besides, the IM already flows WAY more air than the cylinder heads anyway so porting isn't going to do anything. What it needs is a larger plenum and runners that flow even amounts of air but that's not anything that light porting can fix. IIRC each pair of intake ports flows a maximum of like 240 cfm and the average flow for each IM runner is like 308... they don't need help.

So, when people ask -- and we actually get asked about IM porting semi often -- I usually tell them to save their money and put it somewhere where it will actually do something. There's nothing restrictive in the intake manifold. It's just the TGVs :)

But dispersant coating them can be very sexy :cool:... the particular one in this picture I did for Crucial's Forester XT but never put it on before I sold the car. I had some time on my hands so I actually did port it (just smoothed the inside out really... not much else to do to these anyway), dispersant coated the outside, and barrier coated the inside. The barrier on the inside was in the hope that the metal, which is going to get super hot because it's physically connected to the cylinder heads, wont radiate its heat into the intake air as much because it has the barrier coat on the inside. In theory, it should be pretty darn effective. The dispersant on the outside will help it radiate heat and the intake manifold gets a bit of airflow around it but not great, so that's probably not hugely effective.

http://www.wrxfanatics.com/uploads/monthly_04_2007/post-2908-1177112545.jpg

and the gaskets for the tgv? where can i buy them at? thanks.

Any Subaru dealership or www.SubaruGenuineParts.com ....I forget which is top and which is bottom, but the part numbers are 14035AA421 and 14075AA160 and you need two of each...

Jeremy

Jeremy,
I get stupid amounts of turbo lag with my td04 (more than usual)... I know you were saying back in the first couple posts that it wouldn't make a big enough difference to spend that kind of money for. But I really think it might, let me know what you think.

Chris

Well.... each setup is different. However, I'm inclined to think that if you have so much lag with the TD04 either:

1) the turbo is bad. bearings, seals, wastegate isn't sealing... something... but there's something physically wrong with it. Because if everything else is okay, it's a small turbo and should be extremely responsive.

2) there's a boost control issue like a leak somewhere or cracked hose, or the solenoid is bad

3) very large uppipe or headers leak.


...and don't get me wrong, we've done a handful of TD04's and I'm not against it. It still does help and they come out very nice. Plus just dropping engine bay temps helps out, too. It just doesn't have the bang for the buck as larger turbos, which see a bigger improvement in spool/response really just because they have more room to be improved in that department... still happy to P&P&C it for you though if it seems that the things in 1, 2, and 3 above :p aren't a potential problem on your car, but they're worth checking.

Jeremy

I brought the car in to my local dealership and they just told me it was a normal amount of lag. I'm wondering if I'm just in need of more power or if I'm just going nuts or who knows??

Chris

Hey Jeremy, I sent you an email. Thanks, MG.

ps. if you read this before you read the email, add in the cost of drilling and welding in a threaded EGT bung :)

Hey guys, time for a bump!

We've done lots of turbos for the NASIOC crew and they all looked great when they left!!! Anybody have installed pictures and/or reviews? :)

Jeremy

PM sent...

Hello,

Has Crucial Racing ever worked on an APS SR-30 turbo? They're suppose to be pretty efficient, but like you said on the various posts, every turbo can be improved. The APS SR-30 is slightly larger (50 cfm or so) than the vf-34 and cost close to twice as much. :( Just wondering if you had any feedback (positive or negative) from customers regarding this turbo.

Thanks,

Supremo

Supremo --

Yes, we've done a couple of SR-30's and a few other APS turbos as well. They're okay. The castings are a bit on the thin side, especially the compressor casting, but they clean up nicely. The cartridges are good. Garrett I believe. There are people making very good power with these turbos. I think more than a lot of other turbos like the VF34, the SR likes to be run in a fairly specific psi range and it likes to be tuned a specific way, whereas a VF and some others are more forgiving. ...I say this because I've seen larger variances in spool and power output with the SR turbos vs most others, which seem to make more consistent numbers, and the SR ones that do very well all tend to be tuned similarly.

Anyway, they are nice turbos. They absolutely do benefit from P&P&C.

Jeremy

Great information and knowledge shown here. Yes, the SR-30 is a Garrett hybrid. I've seen the SR-30 make close to 300whp when tuned by the right person. While others barely get 240whp on a standard generic, Mc Donald's type tune. I've talked to five different tuners regarding this unit and I've responses from "great turbo" to "I'm not impressed at all by this turbo and you could have done better for the money spent"
Anyway, I just wasn't sure how this enigmatic turbo would react to a P&P&C, however it does sound promising.

The turn-around time is about two weeks? I live in Chico, Ca so it might be a shorter time at least delivery wise.

Again thanks for the insight,

Supremo

Yes, although the two week turn-around is really from when it arrives to when it ships back out... shipping time isn't factored into that. Luckily, FedEx Ground from here to Chico is probably 1 day and very inexpensive.


...and yes, some turbos do respond better to the P&P than others. There are various reasons, but mostly it comes down to the castings. Some castings are extremely good, like higher end Garrett turbos. They are already very smooth on the inside and there is very minimal crap where the parts of the castings are joined together (small seams, flashing, etc). Then there are castings that flat-out suck. I wont name names, but we've had a couple turbos from a particular company (expensive ones, at that!) that makes/brands/uses their own castings and they are REALLY rough on the inside... like freakin' 40 grit sandpaper :lol:. Obviously, this type of turbo is going to have a larger before-and-after than a really good Garrett. That doesn't mean the Garrett doesn't benefit, because it does. It's just not as dramatic. The coating ALWAYS helps.


I've had a couple people ask about only coating or only porting. We REALLY push to do this as a package. Let's say the coating = 1 and the porting = 1. Seems it's assumed that when you put those together you come up with 2. But... it's really not quite the case. They both affect the turbo in different ways but they affect each other, too, and they work together to increase efficiency in different ways. In this case, 1+1 might = more like 2.2.... that is to say, there's something extra that's gained when you do both because they compliment each other, and doing only one of the two will likely net you less than half of the results, not half. Does that make any sense :lol: ?

^^^ that said, if you really really only want porting or only want coating, we can do that. It's always the customer's decision and we respect that! But *cough* do the whole package *cough*!

Jeremy

I had my p/p/c TD04 from Crucial tuned yesterday. The results were fantastic!

14psi@2400
20.3psi@3150
holds 19.4psi from 3300 to 5000
down to 16psi@6000
14psi@redline

Mike at Innovative Tuning in Buffalo was impressed with the turbo. I asked him to take the new turbo to the edge to see what it can do, and then ratchet it back a couple of notches to keep it reliable for my DD car. He said he's never seen a TD04 consistently make that much boost. The car pulls like a train, and the throttle/boost response is just perfect --> you push the go pedal, and it just pulls, even in 5th gear.

Obviously, I'm very pleased with this turbo. Even though Jeremy doesn't really suggest his service for this small of a turbo, IMO it's totally worth it. For a street-driven car, it's a LOT of fun,:D and the power is everywhere without being rediculous --> I'm getting the midrange of a smallblock V8 without having to worry about borking the tranny. I will be sending my stock TD04 (the one I replaced with the Crucial turbo) to Crucial for the same treatment.

Thanks again, Jeremy!
Spence

Spenk,

I didn't know you could buy a stock TD04 with a CR P&P&C job already done to it outright from Crucial Racing. How much of a deposit (refundable usually) did you had to leave until you sent the original stock unit back to Crucial? I thought he was short on stock TD04's and wasn't doing swaps or didn't want to do stockers in general because of the lack of the "Bang for the Buck" factor.

Did you own two stockers to start with? :p

Supremo

I had the stock turbo on my car. I bought an unmolested TD04 and sent it to Crucial. I then replaced my stock TD04 with the Crucial TD04. My next move is to send my original (stock) turbo to Jeremy.
:D

Glad to hear it! Those are great results :)


...we will never do a full exchange program on turbos because the cartridges can be in such varied states of use and more likely than not you'd be getting back a turbo that was in better or worse condition than the one on your car. So.... the most we'll end up doing is an exchange deal for the housings. We could send you finished housings, you'd swap them onto your cartridge, then you'd send your stock housings back. I do plan on doing that but we have to come up with a handful of housings first... which I'll try to do over the next couple of weeks...

Jeremy

PM'd you about coating my header

Been a while so.... bump! We took a little break while our thermal coater moved into a new building but we're up-and-running and taking turbos to P&P&C again!

Also, FINALLY put our famous P&P&C Manifolds up on the Crucial website! www.CrucialRacing.com/products/manifolds.php

Jeremy

Hi, Jeremy

I'm from UK, just bought your uppipe (awaiting delivery).
Have a vf35, waiting to go into MY05 WRX.

How much is P&P&C & postage back to UK for turbo if i sort posting to you.

Thanks,

Kemp

Turbo is $300 for the full service (P&P on both sides, thermal barrier coating on the turbine side and thermal dispersant coating on the compressor side). Not sure what shipping back to you would be... depends on the weight of the box.

What I would definitely recommend to you is to just send us the housings and you hang on to all of the rest of the turbo. That way you're shaving off a lot of weight, they can fit into a smaller box, and the chance of damage goes way, way down. It's REALLY easy to take apart a turbo and I'm happy to walk you through it if you would like. This way we can return ship it to you in a USPS Priority Flat Rate box and I believe international for that is $35.xx regardless of weight. The assembled turbo, however, will not fit in a flat rate box and it will definitely cost more than that.

Hope it helps. Shoot me an e-mail to CrucialRacing [at] Gmail.com if you'd like more information on sending it out!

Jeremy

Hi Jeremy,

Thanks for prompt reply.
e-mail sent to CrucialRacing [at] Gmail.com

Kemp