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ricochet 02-23-2007, 12:51 AM http://www.drivingsportsvideo.com/subiefest/crawford_rlta.jpg
Subaru Dominates Redline Time Attack
By Travis Geny, Subiesport Magazine (http://www.subiesport.com)
Once again Subaru dominates the Redline Time Attack proving that blistering speed is what makes a Subaru, a Subaru.
The STI of Crawford Performance piloted by Rus Warr, left the Tuning Tech EVO VIII, driven by Paul Gerrard and the Evasive Motorsport EVO, driven by Robert Walker, squarely one second adrift of the 1:11.515 lap time set by Warr around the 1.45-mile 13-turn California Speedway. This time was fast enough to take the overall Limited/Modified title for the event.
“We ran in the modified class and did really well,” said Quirt Crawford. “We dominated the class.”
In fact, the wide body STI proved to be so effective, it would go on to post the fourth fastest time of the day and take second in the Unlimited AWD class with a 1:10.318 lap time behind the featherweight carbon-fiber wide-body AMS EVO.
“Tanner Foust wanted to run in the Unlimited Class even though it wasn’t prepped for that class,” Said Quirt. “We were running the limited rubber and we did really well, almost breaking into the sub 10 second club.” A sub 1:10 lap is considered an exceedingly quick lap at the speedway, which is not usually in reach of a full-interior street car.
Indeed, the Crawford car sports a full interior and is driven to and from the events it competes in, yet, it still has the speed to nip at the heels of purpose-built machinery.
The Crawford STI uses off the shelf components to make over 450whp, which is controlled by the stock ECU with an ECUTek reflash, tuned by I-Speed.
After the event, SRT USA driver, Ken Block, took the car out for a few hot laps around the track.
Time attack is getting more recognition as the new hot motorsport around the United States. While not true “wheel to wheel” racing, drivers must still contend with the track, and each other, in an attempt to post the fastest lap time. Car setup and driver skills are crucial in Time Attack as each team has a limited amount of time in which to post their laps.
The next Redline event will be held at Buttonwillow on April 28 and 29. More info: http://www.redlinetimeattack.com
For more Subaru Time Attack action, make the trek to Subiefest on April 7, 2007, at Portland International Raceway in Portland, Ore. http://www.subiefest.com
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thewhitewrx 02-23-2007, 01:10 AM way to go Bill, Chris and Quirt! Congrats on teh win
Arnie 02-23-2007, 01:20 AM Great work guys! Did you run with the baby seat? :lol:
EBWRC#1 02-23-2007, 01:22 AM Wonderful!!
Blackpantherwrx 02-23-2007, 01:31 AM Great job guys keep up the good work.
subaru dominated?
didnt a evo win the awd street and awd unlimited classes?
so evo 2 out of 3...
subaru 1 out of 3...
but subaru 'dominated'.........
anyways.. good job... the car is a very good modified car...
GO STY's!!!
ricochet 02-23-2007, 02:21 AM From Redline Results:
Overall Modified Class Champion:
1:11.515 Rus Warr Crawford Performance STi
Overall Street Class Champion:
1:15.823 Nils Leufren RobiSpec/GSC Motorsports EVO 8
Unlimited Class AWD:
1st Place: 1:08.861 AMS EVO
2nd Place: 1:10.318 Tanner Foust Crawford Performance STi
3rd Place: 1:14.681 Kevin Jons Crawford Performance STi
jdmmuscle 02-23-2007, 02:36 AM Great job guys! see you at the next HB cruise...
eboarder2020 02-23-2007, 02:40 AM Good job guys!!! Way to hold the subaru flag up high
midnite_wrex 02-23-2007, 02:42 AM nice work guys... was there a weigh in? any numbers from that? i'd love to hear the specs on that carbon lan evo.
a little short of domination, but definitely making big strides. congrats on an impressive showing!!
MaxSTi05 02-23-2007, 03:00 AM Super job, guys! Great effort on the "streetable" STI :) Good luck at Buttonwillow.
MeanEditor 02-23-2007, 03:19 AM The carbon evo reportedly weighs in at 2700lbs. The Crawford STi at 3300 or so.
Lebanese rally champ 02-23-2007, 03:20 AM CRAWFORD PERFORMANCE you make us Proud of our Subaru.
Congratulations
Carbon888 02-23-2007, 04:36 AM good job! more pics
Nice cant wait till the next event should be great.
congratulations
MoJack 02-23-2007, 05:38 AM Tightness. I need to venture to one of these events. Chillin in california doing nothing!
nate49509 02-23-2007, 05:56 AM Awesome! That's one impressive car they've built.
NoTec 02-23-2007, 11:07 AM Where is everyone getting the "all carbon" notion from?? The AMS car is running body parts that are available to anyone who wants them. The hood, roof, and trunk are carbon yes but as far as we know, the only FULL carbon Evo belongs to HKS. I reeeeaaally want to see that Cobb monster run a TA event soon. I will be at that event. Its sure to be a blast. The best from Suby and Mitsu battling it out.
NoTec 02-23-2007, 11:14 AM Oh yeah, straight from the staff over at AMS, the chassis needed a few more tweeks and the car could easily have shaved another .5 - 1 sec from that time. From what everyone is saying though, Much respect is due to the Crawford guys because that Sti was a phenominal machine and well tuned. Why can't we have events like this on the east coast.
aps2fast4u 02-23-2007, 12:59 PM Congrats to Crawford Performance!! Go Subaru!!
must be those 720cc injectors! j/k hahaha
nxttruck2002 02-23-2007, 01:05 PM Once again Subaru dominates the Redline Time Attack proving that blistering speed is what makes a Subaru, a Subaru.
Fix0rd
That's how Subaru has it on their commercials. ;)
Santiago@AMS 02-23-2007, 02:03 PM The Crawford STi is a lightning fast contender, hats off to them!
And to clarify, our AMS TA1 EVO is not a full carbon fiber car. The doors, hood, roof and trunk are CF. The car weighs approximately 2750 lbs.
lovesmysuby04 02-23-2007, 02:43 PM The Crawford STi is a lightning fast contender, hats off to them!
And to clarify, our AMS TA1 EVO is not a full carbon fiber car. The doors, hood, roof and trunk are CF. The car weighs approximately 2750 lbs.
Only 2750lbs:lol:
NoTec 02-23-2007, 03:00 PM Only 2750lbs:lol:
I believe the HKS Evo is around 2300 lbs so There is more weight savings available. The Cobb Sti will probably end up in that ballpark. As stated before, its going to be an interesting year.
Lets go off on a wild tangent for a second. Does anyone realize how close the Crawford Sti's and AMS Evo's times were to that race spec Porsche monster. Here are privateer shops one step away from conquering Pro race teams who are backed by big money sponsers. It is very amazing.
domestic_abuser 02-23-2007, 03:07 PM I can't wait to hear more about this beast
flukewrx 02-23-2007, 05:35 PM That is some Seriously Impressive times. Crawford Performance definitely makes the Subaru Crowd Proud. Way to go guys!
PA04STI 02-23-2007, 06:05 PM Once again Crawford steps it up again for the Subie community in road racing.
This car is amazing compared to what it is up against It has stock interior, stock block (I think still), 2004 STi not an 2006 just has 06 Widebody Kit & body work...
Russ War can drive like no other...I mean weight wise I would think this is one of the heavier cars in its class...
Congrats Crawford once again steping it up and winning seems like a trend...
If you guys are back at MidOhio this year I'll be there to watch again...
Matt
PA04STI 02-23-2007, 06:11 PM subaru dominated?
didnt a evo win the awd street and awd unlimited classes?
so evo 2 out of 3...
subaru 1 out of 3...
but subaru 'dominated'.........
anyways.. good job... the car is a very good modified car...
GO STY's!!!
Not trying to bash two great teams at all so don;t take this wrong I am sure they would say the same...
The AMS evo is a full out race car as stripped as it comes I know I saw it at MidOhio!!!
I am pretty sure the RobiSpec/GSC Motorsports is too but can't verify never saw it...
I do knwo this the Crawford Sti if the same form as it was at MidOhio was a full interior I mean OEM stock everything there full interior car on a stock block 2004 STi. It only has an 06 APR Widebody & OEM body...
The Crawford STi is a lightning fast contender, hats off to them!
And to clarify, our AMS TA1 EVO is not a full carbon fiber car. The doors, hood, roof and trunk are CF. The car weighs approximately 2750 lbs.
Compare weight there was an article about the SCCA MidOhio race the Crawford STi is like 500lbs heavier then the AMS evo...Oh and BTW weight means a hell of alot when it comes to power to weight ratio....
I am a big fan of AMS, Buschur, GCS, WOrks, ESX, DynoComp, Lock Brothers, etc etc etc...Its nice to see these cars taking the world by storm just wish they would get into more mainstream race groups to kick some ass & get some national coverage....Cough cough Speed World CHallenge cough cough
triguy 02-23-2007, 06:21 PM Several in-car videos of the Crawford STI are available on YouTube. They are fun to watch. The motion of the driver's hands look like he's just going for a Sunday drive meanwhile the car is flying. Just search on Crawford Performance.
The common theme in the videos is that either other drivers are humble enough to get out the way of the Crawford STI or brash enough to try to stay in front but eventually run off the track.
JSC Speed 02-23-2007, 06:40 PM I can't wait for our one east coast event this fall at Summit...last year was a blast and this year ought to be even better!
Blk_RS01 02-23-2007, 08:24 PM crawford sti FTW! :banana:
PA04STI 02-23-2007, 10:44 PM I can't wait for our one east coast event this fall at Summit...last year was a blast and this year ought to be even better!
They where at MidOhio last year for the SCCA runoffs. When I talked to them they said they would be back this year too...So that another one you could go see...
Last year the AMS evo was there too as well as 2 Robispec evos... The STi and evos really turned some eyes at that event...Even the diehard muscle car guys as they blew around z06s and c5s ok the whole field they where out there with.
Matt
nxttruck2002 02-24-2007, 04:01 AM Here are pictures off of Crawford Performance's site:
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f120/awd06sti/track_01.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f120/awd06sti/track_02.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f120/awd06sti/track_03.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f120/awd06sti/track_04.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f120/awd06sti/track_05.jpg
moonlightspoon 02-24-2007, 09:18 AM Congrats to Quirt Crawford, the drivers and the rest of the team! Great showing. Definitely shows the performance potential of the STi, which is too often portrayed as being "softer" and less trackworthy than the EVO.
chadblock 02-24-2007, 03:16 PM congratulations, on a very good result. nice to see the subie showing its potential.
but, to say "subaru dominates" is a bit of an over statement, you did enter the unlimited class, and AMS did smoke everyone by what? 2 seconds?
maybe dominated one class, but not the event.
not taking anything away from a fantastic result, just think the title needs work.
cb
SoloSTI 02-24-2007, 04:30 PM Great results! I hope we beat the EVO's consistently. I wonder if they had a quick ratio steering rack in that STI.
Do they use a FMIC?
PA04STI 02-24-2007, 05:18 PM Great results! I hope we beat the EVO's consistently. I wonder if they had a quick ratio steering rack in that STI.
Do they use a FMIC?
Yes to FMIC No to Quick rack if I am not mistaken
PA04STI 02-24-2007, 07:39 PM congratulations, on a very good result. nice to see the subie showing its potential.
but, to say "subaru dominates" is a bit of an over statement, you did enter the unlimited class, and AMS did smoke everyone by what? 2 seconds?
maybe dominated one class, but not the event.
not taking anything away from a fantastic result, just think the title needs work.
cb
AMS is a real contender and I think with the right R&D (downforce) and other essential things may be a real contender against the Cyber Evo...yeah you heard me right the God like Cyber Evo....
All my point is for what the Crawford STi is (stock block, full interior, power windows etc etc in a 2004 STi) it has given me alot of respect for Crawford because that car for what it is really does a great job at being a leader especially if you would add up the total price in what form it is now. I mean you can drive the Crawford Sti on the street as a daily driver.
I am sure AMS would back me up that the AMS evo wouldn't be a daily driver it has evolved to a full on race car.
Matt
aps2fast4u 02-24-2007, 08:58 PM ^^ you guys sure it is stock block??? I haven't checked to see if it is or not, but I would think that an "engine" performance shop would build the block a little bit at least to run in these comps..
sleepy98 02-25-2007, 02:42 AM Congrats to Subarus!
does anyone have a good explaination of why the gmg and ams car suddenly ran 2 sec faster on their last lap? How is that possible, a WHOLE 2 sec?
Jaylyons1 02-25-2007, 10:48 AM Nice, definately something to aim for ^_^
NoTec 02-25-2007, 11:37 AM Congrats to Subarus!
does anyone have a good explaination of why the gmg and ams car suddenly ran 2 sec faster on their last lap? How is that possible, a WHOLE 2 sec?
They were probably being reserved and feeling the track conditions and car out at that moment in time and then just went balls out for a great time. And the Robspec/GSC Evo driven by Nils is his personal daily driver. It is not an all out track car like the AMS TA1. Its not even close. And the AMS TA1 isnt a track car to the extent of the GMG Porsche. Its just a stripped and weight reduced chassis.
This Crawford car has definately peaked my interst. Need more info..
chadblock 02-25-2007, 12:30 PM the GMG car is basically a grand am spec porsche 996gt3R from what i gather...
time attack has interesting rules.... we are aiming to do something with neither an sti or evo... the cost to "do it right" is just to high with these cars... AMS has an entirely new car they havent unveiled yet, i think they are building it more like a touring chassis... moving the driver back etc...
so they should be significantly faster with the new car.
cb
JSC Speed 02-25-2007, 02:41 PM Chad, you should come down to Summit this fall and run the Exige in modified RWD! We take an Evo for the street AWD and I'm taking the tC for street FWD this year...should be fun.
I didn't think there was a RedLine TA anywhere except Summit (for east coast events) last year? There is an event scheduled for Atlanta too, but that's too far for us.
MattDell 02-25-2007, 03:17 PM Figures... I'll be in England for the Summit Point event! :mad:
sleepy98 02-25-2007, 04:53 PM They were probably being reserved and feeling the track conditions and car out at that moment in time and then just went balls out for a great time. And the Robspec/GSC Evo driven by Nils is his personal daily driver. It is not an all out track car like the AMS TA1. Its not even close. And the AMS TA1 isnt a track car to the extent of the GMG Porsche. Its just a stripped and weight reduced chassis.
This Crawford car has definately peaked my interst. Need more info..
Thanks for the clarification. I thought 2 sec to recover on a lap was kinda strange. A cut corner would make that up really quick. But I guess i didn't realize how much some cars sandbag.
MikeO 02-25-2007, 05:01 PM that's some good news.
4wdrift 02-25-2007, 07:12 PM Another nice showing for Subarus. Even though they are classed differently,
I would be really interested to see how these cars would stack up against some
of the Japanese tuner cars like Zerosports or Jun.
Lets go off on a wild tangent for a second. Does anyone realize how close the Crawford Sti's and AMS Evo's times were to that race spec Porsche monster. Here are privateer shops one step away from conquering Pro race teams who are backed by big money sponsers. It is very amazing.
i agree a little bit.. but that porsche is way down on power.. and the 996 chassis is obsoleet in every racing series...
on a dif trak.. the porsche would be faster...
but soon the ams evo and others will be beating the porsche...
the cyber evo is waay faster then cup cars...
I am pretty sure the RobiSpec/GSC Motorsports is too but can't verify never saw it...
I am a big fan of AMS, Buschur, GCS, WOrks, ESX, DynoComp, Lock Brothers, etc etc etc...Its nice to see these cars taking the world by storm just wish they would get into more mainstream race groups to kick some ass & get some national coverage....Cough cough Speed World CHallenge cough cough
robi gsc evo is full street car.. drivin home from the trak to las vegas..... full intr.. all stock fenders.. and all that stuff..... a weel built "street" car class.. car....
have u been reading your sport compact car lately?... SWC..
And the AMS TA1 isnt a track car to the extent of the GMG Porsche. Its just a stripped and weight reduced chassis.
This Crawford car has definately peaked my interst. Need more info..
the porsche is more of a street car then the ams evo....
and also dont forget the porsche was on toyos...
NoTec 02-25-2007, 08:01 PM the porsche is more of a street car then the ams evo....
and also dont forget the porsche was on toyos...
I was talking about chassis engineering, refinement, tuning, etc... The GMG machine has the AMS TA1 beat in that area. The AMS TA2 will be more on par with the league dominating race machines of today.
thechoochman28 02-25-2007, 09:25 PM Congrats again Team Crawford/I-speed! Keep the forward momentum up doing what you guys do best.
chadblock 02-25-2007, 11:12 PM Chad, you should come down to Summit this fall and run the Exige in modified RWD! We take an Evo for the street AWD and I'm taking the tC for street FWD this year...should be fun.
I didn't think there was a RedLine TA anywhere except Summit (for east coast events) last year? There is an event scheduled for Atlanta too, but that's too far for us.
we may do something, we are looking at building a lotus for time attack, but it will take a year.
ill see if maybe i can bring my 2.3 evo down for fun...
i hate driving cars where i drove race cars.. i did my first laps at summit!!
let's get together at the event.
cb
and again, i wasn't knocking crawford, i think everyone did an excellent job but the event wasn't "dominated"
I was talking about chassis engineering, refinement, tuning, etc... The GMG machine has the AMS TA1 beat in that area. The AMS TA2 will be more on par with the league dominating race machines of today.
we will see....
i hope u dont consider the GMG porsche a "dominating" race machine of today........... its over 3 years old....
PA04STI 02-26-2007, 03:37 AM we will see....
i hope u dont consider the GMG porsche a "dominating" race machine of today........... its over 3 years old....
Yes it is dominating...
A GT3R are out of the box ready to dominate period and it is restricted horsepower wise and I am sure quite a few other things are restricted for the class it races in....I mean they are a race car with a VIN #....
I wouldn't care if it was 5-10 years old regular Porsche ready to race it would be at the top of the list.
Look at these 2 Porsches and how old they are and how they would still dominate today granted not regular Porsches but still special built to race:
* 917 1960s (1st produced 1969) technology the car that changed the rules for the Lemans and has the record for the fastest lap-3:18:04 & most distance driven. performance #s: 0-60 1.9seconds / 0-100 10.9seconds / top speed 248mph
http://www.pca.org/panorama/images/Daytona24/1971--917-on-bank.jpg
* 959 It's a 2.86Liter flat 6 late 1970s early 1980s (1st produced in 1981) technology that is still modeled after today and considered a top high performance car & would still dominate today. performance #s: 0-60 3.6seconds / 0-100 8.3seconds /1/4mile 11.8 @119
http://www.sport-cars.org/site_img/large/porsche-959-1.jpg
I think Porsche knows racing & the GT3R is just another example no matter how old it is....
It's a race built Porsche enough said Porsche knows racing and how to win. Even if it where just a street Porsche preped to race there it would still probably win.
Ok back on topic:
Is AMS building a whole new evo or just redoing the one they have now????
Matt
NoTec 02-26-2007, 01:01 PM Just to clarify, I was not calling the GMG a race machine of today because I know it is dated. But STY, don't discredit it because as stated in the post directly above, it is still a Porsche racecar.
The new AMS TA2 is in fact a whole new car. It will be a race machine more worthy of the title race car. The TA1 which they have been using recently will remain in action until the new car debuts. So, as I said so many posts ago, this season will be interesting and I hope GMG and any other pro race programs bring their "A-games."
timeless 02-26-2007, 01:09 PM That is some serious meat on those tires! Good job guys!
PA04STI 02-26-2007, 03:35 PM The new AMS TA2 is in fact a whole new car. It will be a race machine more worthy of the title race car. The TA1 which they have been using recently will remain in action until the new car debuts. So, as I said so many posts ago, this season will be interesting and I hope GMG and any other pro race programs bring their "A-games."
AMS new TA2 car Evo IX or VIII?
If IX SE or MR or regular...are they going with the aluminum roof for weight reduction...I know most race teams get MR and swap 5 speed in it cause they don't like 6 speed gearing and I think its 4th gear breaks like crazy in the 6speed box...
Matt
CryoSlash 02-26-2007, 03:42 PM theres something wrong with the info. the supra won the street class AND unlimited RWD.
Phatron 02-26-2007, 06:38 PM theres something wrong with the info. the supra won the street class AND unlimited RWD.
I think thats a joke, but just in case.....no supras here
http://www.redlinetimeattack.com/
And yall forgot to mention Harman Motive
Street Class AWD:
1st Place: 1:15.823 Nils Leufren RobiSpec/GSC Motorsports EVO 8
2nd Place: 1:16.771 Ryan Cashin EVO 8
3rd Place: 1:17.364 J.C. Meynet Harman Automotive STi
Phatron 02-26-2007, 06:44 PM * 917 1960s (1st produced 1969) technology the car that changed the rules for the Lemans and has the record for the fastest lap-3:18:04 & most distance driven. performance #s: 0-60 1.9seconds / 0-100 10.9seconds / top speed 248mph
Is that right?
It takes the 917 1.9 seconds to get to 60, then 9 seconds to go from 60-100 :confused:
NoTec 02-26-2007, 07:13 PM AMS new TA2 car Evo IX or VIII?
If IX SE or MR or regular...are they going with the aluminum roof for weight reduction...I know most race teams get MR and swap 5 speed in it cause they don't like 6 speed gearing and I think its 4th gear breaks like crazy in the 6speed box...
Matt
The car is a standard Gsr 8. Just understand its gonna go through major work and nothing is finalized yet. There is a thread in the AMS section on Evom about both of there cars. The MR's 4th gear does suck major but once they are sent out to TRE or Shep's shop, nothing to worry about anymore. I bought the SE instead of the MR for that reason. Most of the options without the headaches.I would have bought the Sti limited but the dealer kept promising 1 more week 5 times so I just said screw it. I am looking for a WRX DD very soon so all this Crawford stuff is very interesting to me. Got nothing but love for both camps so I keep my comments factual, positive, and to the point.
MaxSTi05 02-26-2007, 07:54 PM Why did the Crawford STI change wheels from I believe the Enkei NT03 to ?? Weight reduction, sponsorship, sizing?
WillGroup5Motorsport 02-26-2007, 09:26 PM This car is amazing compared to what it is up against It has stock interior, stock block (I think still), 2004 STi not an 2006 just has 06 Widebody Kit & body work...
Its actually an 06, they had an 04 and replaced it with the 06
STi-MAN 02-26-2007, 10:44 PM Its actually an 06, they had an 04 and replaced it with the 06
umm i dont think so. its a face lifted 04.. theres been many articles about this.
scobaru 02-27-2007, 03:46 AM I'm just glad that our main page doesn't have that hurricane fund anymore
PA04STI 02-27-2007, 02:19 PM Is that right?
It takes the 917 1.9 seconds to get to 60, then 9 seconds to go from 60-100 :confused:
Another site said 2.3seconds 0-60. It was all fiberglass inside and out and had a V12 two 3.6L Flat 6s put together I beleive it maybe not the 1.9 but under 3 seconds YES.
Matt
PA04STI 02-27-2007, 02:22 PM The car is a standard Gsr 8. Just understand its gonna go through major work and nothing is finalized yet. There is a thread in the AMS section on Evom about both of there cars. The MR's 4th gear does suck major but once they are sent out to TRE or Shep's shop, nothing to worry about anymore. I bought the SE instead of the MR for that reason. Most of the options without the headaches.I would have bought the Sti limited but the dealer kept promising 1 more week 5 times so I just said screw it. I am looking for a WRX DD very soon so all this Crawford stuff is very interesting to me. Got nothing but love for both camps so I keep my comments factual, positive, and to the point.
SE would be what I would buy if getting an evo...Has the one thing I'd want that the MR has aluminum roof the rest is pointless....And would rather have 5 speed
Matt
PA04STI 02-27-2007, 02:40 PM Its actually an 06, they had an 04 and replaced it with the 06
No look at the dash and steering wheel in vids its an 2004....
From Crawford site:
- Project 06 Widebody
What does it take to convert a 2004 STi into a 2006 STi Widebody in 6 days...
Watch the "Limited AWD Champion Video"
2004 Steering wheel & dash look at vents and cup holder...It's a 2004 STi with an 06 APR widebody kit!
Matt
dtseng01 02-27-2007, 05:11 PM Good work. Way to represent Subaru!
Yes it is dominating...
A GT3R are out of the box ready to dominate period and it is restricted horsepower wise and I am sure quite a few other things are restricted for the class it races in....I mean they are a race car with a VIN #....
I wouldn't care if it was 5-10 years old regular Porsche ready to race it would be at the top of the list.
Look at these 2 Porsches and how old they are and how they would still dominate today granted not regular Porsches but still special built to race:
* 917 1960s (1st produced 1969) technology the car that changed the rules for the Lemans and has the record for the fastest lap-3:18:04 & most distance driven. performance #s: 0-60 1.9seconds / 0-100 10.9seconds / top speed 248mph
http://www.pca.org/panorama/images/Daytona24/1971--917-on-bank.jpg
* 959 It's a 2.86Liter flat 6 late 1970s early 1980s (1st produced in 1981) technology that is still modeled after today and considered a top high performance car & would still dominate today. performance #s: 0-60 3.6seconds / 0-100 8.3seconds /1/4mile 11.8 @119
http://www.sport-cars.org/site_img/large/porsche-959-1.jpg
I think Porsche knows racing & the GT3R is just another example no matter how old it is....
It's a race built Porsche enough said Porsche knows racing and how to win. Even if it where just a street Porsche preped to race there it would still probably win.
Ok back on topic:
Is AMS building a whole new evo or just redoing the one they have now????
Matt
oh wow. porsche history 101.... trust me.. i know porsches...
a gt3r is waaaaay past obsoleet in any pro racing series.... they are now on the 4th evolution of that car.. rs.. then rsr... now the 997 RSR.... the 6 rsr had 110 new things from the RS.... and the 997 as u know is pretyt much a whole new car aero wise.. along with some other things of corse...
the 996 is done.. the 997 is a much better car and can match 996 times without breathing... it is harder to drive tho...
theres no dout a older porsche would be at the top of the list for a redline time attack... but in PRO racing.. you need the newest stuff to win.... 996s are done.. finished... obsoleet.. le feeen....
Is that right?
It takes the 917 1.9 seconds to get to 60, then 9 seconds to go from 60-100 :confused:
hells no... prob takes another 2 sec.... ha
WRXDrUnKiE 02-28-2007, 03:22 AM Are their any videos of the suby racing? I saw some 300zx videos and they were haulin ASS. Hoping to see the same with the subby :)
bunot 02-28-2007, 11:48 AM congratulations, on a very good result. nice to see the subie showing its potential.
but, to say "subaru dominates" is a bit of an over statement, you did enter the unlimited class, and AMS did smoke everyone by what? 2 seconds?
maybe dominated one class, but not the event.
not taking anything away from a fantastic result, just think the title needs work.
cb
i would disagree. the suby entered the unlimited class when it was prepped for the modified class. the AMS evo was 500 lbs lighter and was prepped to be in Unlimited.
they walked away with 2 honors. 1st place in modified and 2nd in Unlimited. how is this not dominating? you take away those 500lbs from the crawford suby and they could have easily beaten AMS' evo in the unlimited awd class.
granted, crawford probably had the better driver on their suby with Tanner Foust.
its not dominating.. because evo wining 2 of the 3 is way more "dominating" then a sty winning 1 of the 3...
3 of 3 is dominating IMO...
take away 500 pounds.. blah blah blah. coulda woulda shoulda.....
"easily"?...... beat....... whatever dood.. u are clueless...
give the gsc/robi car another 300hp and some huge tires.. and it would coulda shoulda been wooopin the sti....
anyways.. it is what it is... and it AINT 'domination'
Devan M 02-28-2007, 03:09 PM It’s just like meeting that smoking hot babe that you have been drooling over. And then when she opens her mouth,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,all she does is bitch about everything.
Get a life dude, life is too short to be such a negative mood.
bunot 02-28-2007, 03:39 PM take away 500 pounds.. blah blah blah. coulda woulda shoulda.....
"easily"?...... beat....... whatever dood.. u are clueless...
give the gsc/robi car another 300hp and some huge tires.. and it would coulda shoulda been wooopin the sti....
idiot. they "couldn't" take away 500lbs. it was meant to race in the modified class, which required full interior.
at least you should figure out the class rules before you open your n00b mouth. moron! :lol:
oh, and yes the gsc/robi car could have added 300hp more to their car, there's no class restriction to horsepower. of course, that car would have probably grenaded in your face. :lol: :lol:
bunot 02-28-2007, 03:41 PM anyways.. it is what it is... and it AINT 'domination'
think of a Sport RWD class car racing against Pro class cars and finishing 2nd place overall. THAT'S DOMINATION.
WRXDrUnKiE 02-28-2007, 04:57 PM So are their any in car videos of the crawfor sti racing?
Devan M 02-28-2007, 06:46 PM So are their any in car videos of the crawfor sti racing?
http://www.crawfordperformance.com/news/article_23.shtml
It’s just like meeting that smoking hot babe that you have been drooling over. And then when she opens her mouth,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,all she does is bitch about everything.
Get a life dude, life is too short to be such a negative mood.
did u just compair me to a smoking hot babe?...
thats not cool man.............
idiot. they "couldn't" take away 500lbs. it was meant to race in the modified class, which required full interior.
at least you should figure out the class rules before you open your n00b mouth. moron! :lol:
oh, and yes the gsc/robi car could have added 300hp more to their car, there's no class restriction to horsepower. of course, that car would have probably grenaded in your face. :lol: :lol:
oh wow... name calling... ur cool...
the first post i said was its a well built MODIFIED car.... to race it in unlimited and get wooped up on... then say "dominated"... doenst make since to me... and they could run full intr and be 500 pounds lighter.... the stock sti seats and carpet dont weight much.... i used to own one... tearing all that out wouldnt save you much in relative terms... you could do alot tricker stuff under the dash and underneeth the car... along with carbon body work... and be 500 less...
i wasnt driving the gsc car so it prob woulndt grenade in my face... im like 3k miles away from cali anyways..
think of a Sport RWD class car racing against Pro class cars and finishing 2nd place overall. THAT'S DOMINATION.
2nd place is the first loser...
the first loser isnt dominating nothing... he is looooooosing....
maby dominating other losers... or dominating other things... homo things....
if You Aint First.... Your Last
Suby RexSTi 02-28-2007, 10:22 PM what rims are on that sti?
bunot 03-01-2007, 01:13 AM oh wow... name calling... ur cool...
the first post i said was its a well built MODIFIED car.... to race it in unlimited and get wooped up on... then say "dominated"... doenst make since to me... and they could run full intr and be 500 pounds lighter.... the stock sti seats and carpet dont weight much.... i used to own one... tearing all that out wouldnt save you much in relative terms... you could do alot tricker stuff under the dash and underneeth the car... along with carbon body work... and be 500 less...
i wasnt driving the gsc car so it prob woulndt grenade in my face... im like 3k miles away from cali anyways..
no, the only thing that doesn't make "since" is your post.
and you just contradicted yourself. how can they run full interior and be 500lbs lighter? you just admitted the sti seats and carpeting aren't that heavy.
you need to get it thru your head that a car that's not built to race against cars of a higher class....should not even "place" in the standings. it would be like a ford focus finishing 2nd against porsches, vipers, vettes. when a ford focus does that, it's DOMINATION.
it's domination because it took 1st place in its class and 2nd in a class above it.
bunot 03-01-2007, 01:17 AM 2nd place is the first loser...
the first loser isnt dominating nothing... he is looooooosing....
maby dominating other losers... or dominating other things... homo things....
oh that's so clever and witty!! where did you get that from...Vin Diesel's Big Book of Lame Cliches and Quips for Dummies? :lol:
don't hate just because a car that has no business being in the Unlimited class took 2nd place. :lol:
the crawford subaru took 3 awards home, the AMS evo took 1 home. that's dominating your loser ass. :lol: :lol:
NoTec 03-01-2007, 11:27 AM Wow!! You dudes need to grow up fast. What's up with the name calling. The race is over and the results are in. It is what it is. Crawford did a damn good job. AMS did a damn good job. In all honesty, it was a dominating performance by noth teams and for what Crawford brought to the plate with engine work and chassis weight, they deserve the most credit.
Devan M 03-01-2007, 05:19 PM They have a video from this event on their site now http://www.crawfordperformance.com/news/article_24.shtml
no, the only thing that doesn't make "since" is your post.
and you just contradicted yourself. how can they run full interior and be 500lbs lighter? you just admitted the sti seats and carpeting aren't that heavy.
you need to get it thru your head that a car that's not built to race against cars of a higher class....should not even "place" in the standings. it would be like a ford focus finishing 2nd against porsches, vipers, vettes. when a ford focus does that, it's DOMINATION.
it's domination because it took 1st place in its class and 2nd in a class above it.
reading 101....
anyways.... they didnt dominate.........
u know nuthing about racing if u think they dominated..
oh that's so clever and witty!! where did you get that from...Vin Diesel's Big Book of Lame Cliches and Quips for Dummies? :lol:
don't hate just because a car that has no business being in the Unlimited class took 2nd place. :lol:
the crawford subaru took 3 awards home, the AMS evo took 1 home. that's dominating your loser ass. :lol: :lol:
its a pretty well known saying.... it doenst have anything to do with fandf....
your rite.. it didnt have business in that class... thats why it got smoked...
the crawford car would den not dominate me.. or my ass...
im sure u like to dominate ass.. alot....
bunot 03-01-2007, 09:41 PM reading 101....
anyways.... they didnt dominate.........
u know nuthing about racing if u think they dominated..
more like Spelling 101...or in your case, Speeling 101. :lol: :lol:
yea, i must be clueless about racing since you have your head up your ass and can't understand how a lower level-prepped car finished 2nd against the unlimited class. :rolleyes:
go buy yourself a clue. ;)
bunot 03-01-2007, 09:44 PM its a pretty well known saying.... it doenst have anything to do with fandf....
yea, i've heard a lot of bench-racing ricers say it too. :lol: :lol:
your rite.. it didnt have business in that class... thats why it got smoked...
finishing 2nd place = getting smoked? LOL. you're a dumbass. if it didn't have business in that class, it wouldn't have taken home a trophy. n00b. :lol:
the crawford car would den not dominate me.. or my ass...
im sure u like to dominate ass.. alot....
i do dominate ass....your mom's. :lol:
Staples 03-01-2007, 10:27 PM b e a u t i f u l subie
yea, i've heard a lot of bench-racing ricers say it too. :lol: :lol:
finishing 2nd place = getting smoked? LOL. you're a dumbass. if it didn't have business in that class, it wouldn't have taken home a trophy. n00b. :lol:
i do dominate ass....your mom's. :lol:
well you have resorted to talking about my spelling.. calling me names... and talking about my mom......
and u still cant understand the sty got smoked by the ams car.. and it didnt dominate.....
why dont we just settle this on the track..... do u plan on doing any redlines... or just bs talkin?
sleepy98 03-02-2007, 01:35 AM This was a good thread until other "supposed" Subaru enthusiasts started to litter it with crap. If you don't like the subies then go to another forum and let us relish our favorite car...sheesh
Back to our regularly scheduled NASIOC.
bunot 03-02-2007, 09:49 AM well you have resorted to talking about my spelling.. calling me names... and talking about my mom......
as opposed to you resorting to talking about reading comprehension, lame rcier quotes, and homosexuality? :lol: talk about the pot calling the kettle black. i guess this is what makes you an idiot.
and u still cant understand the sty got smoked by the ams car.. and it didnt dominate.....
and you still can't understand that a lighter car is SUPPOSED to win. the fact that the slower car made it all the way to the standings is dominating. and you still can't friggin' count.....Crawford = 3 awards, AMS = 1. you FTL. :lol:
why dont we just settle this on the track..... do u plan on doing any redlines... or just bs talkin?
and how would this prove that Crawford dominated the redline time attack? why don't we just settle this in a boxing ring, so i could beat you like a red-headed step child and get some exercise?
thechoochman28 03-02-2007, 02:22 PM This was a good thread until other "supposed" Subaru enthusiasts started to litter it with crap. If you don't like the subies then go to another forum and let us relish our favorite car...sheesh
Back to our regularly scheduled NASIOC.
Heheheh i kinda like the drama, it's entertaining kinda like how reality tv works... The drama factor has been down since crawford left nasioc :( and in turn i haven't been posting on nasioc for awhile.
ricochet 03-02-2007, 02:49 PM Play nice or we'll close this news item. ;)
as opposed to you resorting to talking about reading comprehension, lame rcier quotes, and homosexuality? :lol: talk about the pot calling the kettle black. i guess this is what makes you an idiot.
and you still can't understand that a lighter car is SUPPOSED to win. the fact that the slower car made it all the way to the standings is dominating. and you still can't friggin' count.....Crawford = 3 awards, AMS = 1. you FTL. :lol:
and how would this prove that Crawford dominated the redline time attack? why don't we just settle this in a boxing ring, so i could beat you like a red-headed step child and get some exercise?
you have no points in your posts anymore....
just arguing like a little kid...
so im finished.... im going racin... you just stay infront your computer and tell people u want to box them...
bunot 03-02-2007, 08:30 PM you have no points in your posts anymore....
what's the point of discussing any substantial points? nothing is going thru your thick skull.
just arguing like a little kid...
are you serious? have you seen the way you type your posts???? this isn't a 10yr old's chat room. :lol:
ricochet 03-04-2007, 02:49 PM Thread was locked for 2 days as a warning. Please keep on topic.
irnironman1287 03-05-2007, 07:58 AM when i hear of this EVO spankings by less tuned subies it just makes me happy
Devan M 03-05-2007, 12:03 PM Thread was locked for 2 days as a warning. Please keep on topic.
Cool, this type of thread should make all Suby owners happy. Thanks for unlocking it.
Any input about the videos?
Sub!eDr!ver 03-09-2007, 11:36 PM They have a video from this event on their site now http://www.crawfordperformance.com/news/article_24.shtml
Awesome video! It seemed like he could effortlessly pass anything and everything on the track. I think I need that engine setup in my Legacy!
mxpop 04-06-2007, 02:46 PM FWIW, I believe that Crawford uses a Cosworth based engine with 450 + whp. No one knows for sure how much the "+" is worth....
Great car and cool dudes anyway.
BTW, I got 3rd in the street class so did I "dominate" 3rd?
I actually had fastest time in the semi-wet first race session (I "dominated" the wet race!) and would have won if the rain continued. Unfortunately for me, it dried out and those with local track knowledge and familiarity with the required UTQG 140 tires ( I had no dry track practice as it was my first time there and it was my 1st time on this type tire) beat me by about 1 second. The guy who got 2nd had 5 of 6 laps slower than all 6 of mine but he managed to get one golden lap at the end to beat me, that's time attack for you....
I'll be at Buttonwillow on 4-29-07 for the next redline time attack, come on out and give support or try it yourselves. :disco:
Devan M 05-25-2007, 03:29 PM This time they did dominate the entire event, hurray for Subaru domination :banana:
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1261531&highlight=gt+live
Bondy007 05-25-2007, 09:30 PM Awesome video!! Hurray for Sc00bys :D
corolla801 07-23-2007, 05:16 AM sweet
vwvotrex 08-10-2007, 01:21 PM way to go Bill, Chris and Quirt! Congrats on teh win
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