Jimmy of The Shop has been making mad progress on his 3 week old 2007 STI

Tonight we tuned it with Ecutek with a "dual stage" reflash - (one map for pump and race gas)

The mods are

Perrin Gt35 Rotated Mount
APS Fmic and pipes
APS 3.5" Exhaust
Walbro Fuel Pump
Upgrared wrx injectors
Big AL MAF
UR Cold Air Intake
The Shop mini battery kit

The car runs amazing with those tall gears of the 2007 and with the new dealer upgraded reflash rom there is no hesitation or other problem

The car is headed out to Raceway Park this weekend for the Import Survival Series to see what it can do then next week we are doing the TGV's and some other mods

This dyno sheet is just over 20 psi on pump and just obver 26 psi on race fuel - same reflash tune for both

Decent results for a mild tune

NOTE - I really dont care for the Perrin set up with the outdated back housing but it seemed to run ok here

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g316/DynoFlash_Evo_8/2007Sti.jpg


Video review of the car :

http://s59.photobucket.com/albums/g316/DynoFlash_Evo_8/?action=view&current=Theshop2007sti.flv

wow nice solid power band ......big ups to the tuner

Nice result

im diggin the pink floyd in the background of the video

Any flashing problems? Though I haven't paid enough attention, there were stories that the new dealer 07 "fix" reflash "locked" the ECU somehow so reflashing was not possible. False story or Ecutek workaround?

Any flashing problems? Though I haven't paid enough attention, there were stories that the new dealer 07 "fix" reflash "locked" the ECU somehow so reflashing was not possible. False story or Ecutek workaround?

already been worked around by ecutek.

what do you mean by outdated back housing?

Any flashing problems? Though I haven't paid enough attention, there were stories that the new dealer 07 "fix" reflash "locked" the ECU somehow so reflashing was not possible. False story or Ecutek workaround?
There was no "lock"... the new ROM just wasn't mapped out.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1212166#18

al, how are you controlling boost?

if it's oem ecu, how are you getting it to properly read 26psig?

is there an upgraded MAP sensor on the car?

thanks,
ken

The car uses Ecutek

BTW - Access Port is comming out with the pro tuner for 07 STI in a few days

The car uses a MBC

The ecu does not read over 22 psi

Stock map sensor

PS - we used the newest SOA delaler ROM which eliminates the "hesitation" problem - the car ran very smoothly

Ecutek with a "dual stage" reflash - (one map for pump and race gas)

What is dual stage ECUtek? Have they finally added map switching?

Nice numbers. Always appreciate you posting new tunes.
Blue

What is dual stage ECUtek? Have they finally added map switching?

Nice numbers. Always appreciate you posting new tunes.
Blue

Its either easy ecu ( idk if its available for the 07's yet) or just the defrost button + WOT = boost map switch. I willing to bet its the latter of the two...then again i dont know how it would work with a mbc...:confused:

It bewilders me that Jimmy got another car...hes got so many: built block c6 zo6, r33 skyline, now a 07 sti! (im sure there are others on the list)

Welcome back to the suby community Jimmy! :banana:

Damn, Jimmy is much faster then me at modding, :lol:

Nice job on the Tune Al, we actually just got a call from dominick again asking to setup another dyno flash day with you.

PS: My 07 Accessport arrives tomorrow for my STI :D

Pavel G

I'm glad to see our subies making evo power

What is dual stage ECUtek? Have they finally added map switching?

Nice numbers. Always appreciate you posting new tunes.
Blue

Dual stage mapping is a band aide approach to race gas tuning I have been doing with success on my Evo tunes for some time now

In cases where the pump gas map runs through the center sections of the fuel map it is possible to map the high boost load cells for race gas with leaner and more agressive mapping. I have found it to be very effective.

However, you must have a good handle on the boost - best to use a EBC with a active warning

as over boosting with pump gas is very dangerous


Easy ECU is another option from ECUTEK which gives you a flashing cable and you can load in seperate pump and race maps along with a world class data logger and road dyno testing function and cel checker - its a great choice also

This car just had one map for now
AL

Damn, Jimmy is much faster then me at modding, :lol:

Nice job on the Tune Al, we actually just got a call from dominick again asking to setup another dyno flash day with you.

PS: My 07 Accessport arrives tomorrow for my STI :D

Pavel G

Thanks Jimmy is installing that power steering hose I bought from you guys in his car in the next day or two and we will have the core back to get another for my car as well

I will call you guys soon to pick a date

AL

I'm glad to see our subies making evo power

There is no doubt that with the new gear ratios this 2007 STI will proviode a serious challenge for any similarly equiped evo - it was amazing how fast it got to 120 in 4th last night - the gearing is a huge improvement

Nice graphs Al. Tell Jimmy he has the wrong battery kit and exhaust though;)

David Buschur

There is no doubt that with the new gear ratios this 2007 STI will proviode a serious challenge for any similarly equiped evo - it was amazing how fast it got to 120 in 4th last night - the gearing is a huge improvement

Stop rubbing it in :furious:
:p

Nice graphs Al. Tell Jimmy he has the wrong battery kit and exhaust though;)

David Buschur

I agree - as my Daughter would say - he is a stubborn donkey

I think i would have liked to see the car run than big Al running his mouth.

I think i would have liked to see the car run than big Al running his mouth.

:lol: :banana:

scribed for saturday

Dual stage mapping is a band aide approach to race gas tuning I have been doing with success on my Evo tunes for some time now

In cases where the pump gas map runs through the center sections of the fuel map it is possible to map the high boost load cells for race gas with leaner and more agressive mapping. I have found it to be very effective.

However, you must have a good handle on the boost - best to use a EBC with a active warning

as over boosting with pump gas is very dangerous

AL

how are you changing between the race gas tune and pump gas tune? Are you just turning up the boost by the boost controller or switching boost maps via defrost button?

Nice camera work.

Its an 07 right? The dyno sheet says 06...

I watched the vid and Al asked what kind of exhaust the owner was using and he said APS, Al asked if it was the 3.5" and he said yes. But it looks like the APS 3".

Pic of the 3".
http://www.airpowersystems.com.au/us_spec/subaru/exhausts/apswrx-hoe-r1/apswrx-hoe-r1.jpg
http://www.airpowersystems.com.au/wrx/my01/sti/low_rear_view.jpg

The APS 3.5" has a slanted exhaust angle and much larger tip. The exhaust in the vid came straight out.
http://www.airpowersystems.com.au/us_spec/subaru/exhausts/apswrx-hoe-r5/apswrx-hoe-r5.jpg
http://www.airpowersystems.com.au/wrx/my01/exhausts/3_5inch_race/3_5_inch_rear.jpg

jeeez.... 700 miles haha.

Good work!

Jimmys the man. the end.

Sounds like turning up the boost forces the ECU to use higher load fuel map. So by turning up the boost he will use the fuel map that is meant for race gas. Turn up the boost and have pump gas in there.. BOOM.. =P

how are you changing between the race gas tune and pump gas tune? Are you just turning up the boost by the boost controller or switching boost maps via defrost button?

:devil:

can't wait to see those times!

Really nice numbers! Al, I'm digging the new camera approach you have been taking with the car tuning and all. Keep it up! Thanks!

Really nice numbers! Al, I'm digging the new camera approach you have been taking with the car tuning and all. Keep it up! Thanks!

Yup, hes doing a great job with it!

Really nice numbers! Al, I'm digging the new camera approach you have been taking with the car tuning and all. Keep it up! Thanks!

Yup, hes doing a great job with it!

I watched the vid and Al asked what kind of exhaust the owner was using and he said APS, Al asked if it was the 3.5" and he said yes. But it looks like the APS 3".

Pic of the 3".
http://www.airpowersystems.com.au/us_spec/subaru/exhausts/apswrx-hoe-r1/apswrx-hoe-r1.jpg
http://www.airpowersystems.com.au/wrx/my01/sti/low_rear_view.jpg

The APS 3.5" has a slanted exhaust angle and much larger tip. The exhaust in the vid came straight out.
http://www.airpowersystems.com.au/us_spec/subaru/exhausts/apswrx-hoe-r5/apswrx-hoe-r5.jpg
http://www.airpowersystems.com.au/wrx/my01/exhausts/3_5inch_race/3_5_inch_rear.jpg
It is indeed a 3" , sorry for the misunderstanding , we were there until 4 am , so sorry for the mix up , it wont happen again , Jimmy

Nice graphs Al. Tell Jimmy he has the wrong battery kit and exhaust though;)

David Buschur

Hey Dave , I agree , why dont you send me one of your exhausts and battery kits on the house , i'd love to try them , Thanks Jimmy

jeeez.... 700 miles haha.

Good work!

Ya , I swore i wasnt gonna touch it , look now , another one to add to the list , and its not gonna stop here , wait for further plots , mods and updates coming soon to a theatre near you , LOL ! , Jimmy

Jimmy, why would you want to put the exhaust and a battery kit on your house? They go on the Subaru............man I sure am glad Al's there to help you with this project, you're kind of lost;)

good to hear the 07s are on par with the evos mod/result wise.

Purely curious, do you think it would make more power if there were some more miles on the motor to help loosen things up a bit.

Purely curious, do you think it would make more power if there were some more miles on the motor to help loosen things up a bit.

Perhaps - but we all know that hard core guys take the brand new motors and break them in on the dyno

The main difference with the 07 car is in the improved gear ratios in the trans and improved synchros which make the shifting better - other wise its nearly identical to a 06

I was really shocked how this car behaved on the road comapred to my current and old STI's which are more closed ratio fast shifting - this 07 gearing gives the car a lot of time to load up the boost and hold the gear, much better suited to a road going car as opposed to an off road rally car which the original gears were more suited for

I am hoping and praying that my swap of these 07 gears into my 05 goes smoothly - we are awaiting some bits which are on back order

Al

Hey Dave , I agree , why dont you send me one of your exhausts and battery kits on the house , i'd love to try them , Thanks Jimmy

Jimmy - I just ordered my Buschur bullet exhuast for my car today - we will soon do a 3 way test with the Greddy Evo 2 on my car and your APS and we can then post the results here along with a video

Jimmy, why would you want to put the exhaust and a battery kit on your house? They go on the Subaru............man I sure am glad Al's there to help you with this project, you're kind of lost;)


http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g316/DynoFlash_Evo_8/hksechuastvbuschur003.jpg

Perhaps - but we all know that hard core guys take the brand new motors and break them in on the dyno

The main difference with the 07 car is in the improved gear ratios in the trans and improved synchros which make the shifting better - other wise its nearly identical to a 06

I was really shocked how this car behaved on the road comapred to my current and old STI's which are more closed ratio fast shifting - this 07 gearing gives the car a lot of time to load up the boost and hold the gear, much better suited to a road going car as opposed to an off road rally car which the original gears were more suited for

I am hoping and praying that my swap of these 07 gears into my 05 goes smoothly - we are awaiting some bits which are on back order

Al

This is something I've always wondered. STI's stock have such a broad powerband, let alone moded on the vf39, why did subaru use such short gearing? I would prefer long gears with short spacing between them. I am starting to regret getting my 06 left over...

Definatly let us know the deal with the 07 gearing into the 06, as its something I think would be very worthwile

Really nice numbers! Al, I'm digging the new camera approach you have been taking with the car tuning and all. Keep it up! Thanks!

Thanks Kevin - I have high hopes for my budding video hobby. The main problem I have now is my transmission is in 1,000 bits - hopefully I will be back in business soon.

Al

Very nice car, 700 miles:eek:


Al, why are you wasting your time tuning, with those camera skills matched up with that naragator voice of yours hollywood awaits!!! :banana:


I might be coming up to see you with a lowly stage 4 wrx setup the end of summer, seems like they are puny compared to all the things I've been seeing lately.

Jimmy, why would you want to put the exhaust and a battery kit on your house? They go on the Subaru............man I sure am glad Al's there to help you with this project, you're kind of lost;)
LOL !!!!!!!!! , very funny , but really , what do you think we can do about a Buschur racing exhaust and battery kit ? its like they say you either live by the sword or die by it ! lets try to get an exhaust try it to infact see how much better your exhaust on the Subaru's will be over the other competitors , as we have seen big gains on the EVO's with your exhaust system , nice work as always , Jimmy

Thanks Kevin - I have high hopes for my budding video hobby. The main problem I have now is my transmission is in 1,000 bits - hopefully I will be back in business soon.

Al

Blew your trans in your 05 sti?

What kind (octane) of race fuel was used?

I like your style!

Al, Jimmy and The Shop strikes again. Great work as always guys.

thats how you are supposed to break in a motor

is the track still open this weekend lol

Prefer the Bursher TBE vs a 3.5 APS? I'm not hating but if I were to start dreaming up good parts to throw into a car, the 3.5" APS would probably be among them....A little pricey I know but its a quality part..And as far as batteries go...well as long as it doesnt let you down who cares...

Nice vid btw...

is the track still open this weekend lol

We will do it STI style in the snow !

love the video's Al.....please keep them up.


I think I may need some more credit card debt. Al, let us know about the trans ratio's. Once we figure this out.....there's going to be lots of cars set out for these gears.

nice! Another 500HP STi in the books, with only ~700 miles! I love it.

is that on the stock clutch?

^^^^^good question bump for answer if it's not then what clutch are you running?

He has the stock clutch for now

He has the stock clutch for now

Did he go to the track tonight?

Did he go to the track tonight?

No there was a major blizzard here in the NE and the tracks are all closed

I am sure that the car will hit the track very soon

Blew your trans in your 05 sti?

al said he busted the 3rd gear shift fork on his way down to VIP in VA for their tuning day.

al said he busted the 3rd gear shift fork on his way down to VIP in VA for their tuning day.

Wow, didn't realize. Bad aluminum shift fork. Get some JDM steel forks and call it a day.

Al..

I just read the latest Turbo Magazine and there was a spread on the EVO MR that you guys tuned. The article said the EVO was putting down 505whp & 4XXwtq on a 2.3 stroker kit. To me that seems like a lot of engine work for a EVO and only to put down those kind of numbers.

Now the 07 STI you guys have (stated in this thread) is putting down 505WHP and gobs of torque for a stock block. Is it that the 07 STI ecu and new head design is now far superior? Or is the EVO in the article not showing it's full potential.

Al..

I just read the latest Turbo Magazine and there was a spread on the EVO MR that you guys tuned. The article said the EVO was putting down 505whp & 4XXwtq on a 2.3 stroker kit. To me that seems like a lot of engine work for a EVO and only to put down those kind of numbers.

Now the 07 STI you guys have (stated in this thread) is putting down 505WHP and gobs of torque for a stock block. Is it that the 07 STI ecu and new head design is now far superior? Or is the EVO in the article not showing it's full potential.

That is defenitely NOT the limit of a stroked 2.3 on an Evo. No matter what dyno you run on that set-up has a lot more in it. Maybe the turbo on it doesn't have more to give...

Al..

I just read the latest Turbo Magazine and there was a spread on the EVO MR that you guys tuned. The article said the EVO was putting down 505whp & 4XXwtq on a 2.3 stroker kit. To me that seems like a lot of engine work for a EVO and only to put down those kind of numbers.

Now the 07 STI you guys have (stated in this thread) is putting down 505WHP and gobs of torque for a stock block. Is it that the 07 STI ecu and new head design is now far superior? Or is the EVO in the article not showing it's full potential.

We will have more dyno plots before the end of the week as we are trying a few different parts on the car to see what indeed works and what does'nt , so stay tuned , also we are going to try to get it out to the track hopefully this weekend weather permitting , lets keep our fingers crossed / lol

That is defenitely NOT the limit of a stroked 2.3 on an Evo. No matter what dyno you run on that set-up has a lot more in it. Maybe the turbo on it doesn't have more to give...

No doubt about it.. It's just the STI is a stock block already putting down those numbers. I understand the EVO has a lot more to give.

Al..

I just read the latest Turbo Magazine and there was a spread on the EVO MR that you guys tuned. The article said the EVO was putting down 505whp & 4XXwtq on a 2.3 stroker kit. To me that seems like a lot of engine work for a EVO and only to put down those kind of numbers.

Now the 07 STI you guys have (stated in this thread) is putting down 505WHP and gobs of torque for a stock block. Is it that the 07 STI ecu and new head design is now far superior? Or is the EVO in the article not showing it's full potential.


Few customers appreciate that "building" a motor does not add any power - it merely makes the internals stronger so you can make more power in a reliable manner

On an evo head work does very little

I think the customer you referenced wanted a ultra reliable road racing and street set up and was not into agressive tunes

I made over 800 whp on a 2.3L and then I went back to 2.0 L and I am over 900 whp now on my Evo

The power is all in turbo selection and fuel

Al

Al, couple of questions...

How much work is involved with upgrading the gears to 07s?

Can you elaborate on why you do not prefer the back housings on the Perrin kits other than it is outdated?

Thanks for sharing the vid...care to make one riding in it to show the difference in gearing?

Bump for quarter mile times.

Al, couple of questions...

How much work is involved with upgrading the gears to 07s?

Can you elaborate on why you do not prefer the back housings on the Perrin kits other than it is outdated?

Thanks for sharing the vid...care to make one riding in it to show the difference in gearing?

a lot of work is involved its ripping open the gearbox and replacing all the internals....or just buy an 07 box and swap yours out and sell it to me for cheap :)

the perrin rotated kit is garret style but the exhaust housing necks down to 2.5 then opens to 3" immediately after but that temporary neck is bad for flow and restrictive, hence why he feels it is outdated and a bad performer whereas the UR kit is 3" all the way....also there is complaints about the perrin kits mounting angle and it leading to some sort of oiling issues last time i read about it....

what size injectors, what IDC, and also how much fuel pressure.

great setup, makes me want to get those 07 gears and call it a day!
Great cam skills too Al haha, keep us updated!

Al I PMed you but no reply yet....
just a quick question- do you own and/or tune for THE SHOP and/or DYNOFLASH ???


just a little confused....

Can we get a vid of this car doing some highway pulls. I would love to see an 07 STI in action with the new gearing and a gt35r pulling on the highway or even backroads.

There is no doubt that with the new gear ratios this 2007 STI will proviode a serious challenge for any similarly equiped evo - it was amazing how fast it got to 120 in 4th last night - the gearing is a huge improvement

I thought a 114-115 was the highest 4th goes up to. How did you guys get it to go to 120mph in 4th gear?

I thought a 114-115 was the highest 4th goes up to. How did you guys get it to go to 120mph in 4th gear?

It's about 117mph.. I would love to see some pulls myself.

when ya goin' to the track??

Nice numbers.

I thought a 114-115 was the highest 4th goes up to. How did you guys get it to go to 120mph in 4th gear?

You're thinkg < 06.

With the new Gears, we hit 125mph at 7,5k on the dyno in MY07 STI.