Inpired by SWIC in this thread:
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1183801

Ok, so SWIC knows about the 3 cylinders of fury that the FXT has been running on for the last 2 months and it's finally happening! Just when I was starting to feel like I'd be better off driving a Pontiac Grande Am w/ an aluminum wing and fuzzy dice, a phone call from F.A.T. changed everything. The motor had arrived this morning and was waiting for pics! Yes, yes, it was supposed to be just an STI SB w/ pistons and some work on the rods/bearings/rings the worx but to find out that Robert made it a bored 2.7Liter was the cherry on the ummmm danish!:banana: :banana: Here's pics:

The block all machined bored and sexay!!
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m201/vsbxt/2-2.jpg
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m201/vsbxt/2-3.jpg
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m201/vsbxt/2-1.jpg
My personal favorite the JE Pistons ceramic coated lightened and balancedFTW:
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m201/vsbxt/2.jpg

It should go in this week as planned unless STi_Guy04's car keeps getting all of the attention.:eek: Dude if most of our wives had that much attention IB there would be fewer divorces in the U.S!:D

badass

nice motor, my je pistons look way different than yours do. I have huge valve relief cuts.

nice motor, my je pistons look way different than yours do. I have huge valve relief cuts.

Are yours dished like his? Might be the difference.

nice motor, my je pistons look way different than yours do. I have huge valve relief cuts.
How is your idle? Just curious if it's JE's that have that rough idle/rattling when cold or another brand...

what did they find in the motor?

sweet man I just fired my car up tonight ran great :D

you know what u should do... ill give u my motor and u can put that motor in my car... then u can but the mighty 2.0 stock wrx motor in ur car... plus u could gimme some cash to make the deal fair, cuz u know the more miles the more power a car puts out:p

what did they find in the motor?Bad ring #4.

sweet man I just fired my car up tonight ran great :D

Right on T!!! Come on big powa!!!:disco:

you know what u should do... ill give u my motor and u can put that motor in my car... then u can but the mighty 2.0 stock wrx motor in ur car... plus u could gimme some cash to make the deal fair, cuz u know the more miles the more power a car puts out:p

Hmmm, I'll get back to you on that one....:lol:

sweet man I just fired my car up tonight ran great :D


Thats right we did!

Awesome Virg!

it looks pretty. congratz... i didnt relize that its been 2 months already.

it looks pretty. congratz... i didnt relize that its been 2 months already.Yeah, dropped of the check on January 25th and time flew at 7.5 weeks!
Awesome Virg!
Sorry I had to call while you were bowling yesterday, it was like having another baby born!:lol:

congrats is order to a fellow forester guy and allaround good guy.you inspire me to swap my forester instead of buying a tr.

HEY theres nothing wrong with TR's

Are yours dished like his? Might be the difference.

mine are dished, but like a square more and my pistons are also lower compression as well so that is probably the differnace. My idle is a little loud but it goes away when the motor is warm.

Nice Virg!! So, if I leave a 2.5 block with Robert, it may accidentally turn to 2.7!!? Ryan's wagon is going up there tomorrow morning for it's 2.5 swap, so he'll be a busy man.

Nice Virg!! So, if I leave a 2.5 block with Robert, it may accidentally turn to 2.7!!? Ryan's wagon is going up there tomorrow morning for it's 2.5 swap, so he'll be a busy man.LOL:lol: Yes, accidents like this do happen there! SO Ryans car will be there tomorrow eh? I may have to grab his seats and maybe some other parts off his car that aren't welded down.:devil:

congrats is order to a fellow forester guy and allaround good guy.you inspire me to swap my forester instead of buying a tr.
Right on, keep us updated man!

Very, very cool. 2.7 liters...hellooooo torque~

Very, very cool. 2.7 liters...hellooooo torque~
Agreed, the tq will be fun! However my tranny will beg to differ....:(

how bad was it? was there any damage?

Agreed, the tq will be fun! However my tranny will beg to differ....:(

no doubt...you will need to upgrade that asap.

well the XT tranny is supposed to be an RA equivilent, the only thing after that is an STI..

No idea how bad the damage is yet but the car still runs it just burns oil like a McDonalds rotofryer. The tranny in it right now is a true RA tranny w/ STI 6 speed clutch but still I've got my doubts....:(

Yeah, dropped of the check on January 25th and time flew at 7.5 weeks!

Sorry I had to call while you were bowling yesterday, it was like having another baby born!:lol:

OH totally cool, I bowled a strike while I was talking to you any way :)

james@rpm has a RA box and beats the HECK out of it with a twin plate clutch.. you should be alright :)

james@rpm has a RA box and beats the HECK out of it with a twin plate clutch.. you should be alright :)
What is he running these days? Nasty turbo etc.?

james is running a vf22 with too much boost!

*pours out a little liquor*

Szeny am i ever gonna see that credit? its only been 7 months

james is running a vf22 with too much boost!Oh? Didn't he do an EWG with that? Either way if his tranny is taking a pounding that's reasurring.

yes he did. and my ra gear'd tranny has been solid. oh, and i threw dirt into your block this morning.

I pooped in it a little...

^^^ i licked it after

*pours out a little liquor*

Szeny am i ever gonna see that credit? its only been 7 months

put on like 2 hunge couple days ago.. lemme know when you see it

holy high disp. 4banger batman !!!

glad to see your happy virgil you deff deserve it man lol now im going to have to do something to the STi to keep up..

glad to see your happy virgil you deff deserve it man lol now im going to have to do something to the STi to keep up..
Thanks man, but I think your new turbo will be more than enough to rip me apart at the 1/4 mile.:eek:

yes he did. and my ra gear'd tranny has been solid. oh, and i threw dirt into your block this morning.
Thanks, some say throw in a penny for good luck! :lol:
I pooped in it a little...
To be expected from a dirty Canadian...:p

^^^ i licked it after
Now that is foul, but tasteful.:eek:

i saw this block. a midget could live inside one of the cylinders!!!

i saw this block. a midget could live inside one of the cylinders!!!

Thats not nice

Thats not nice


YEAH how dare you disgrace the cylinders like that.... :lol:

WestUp Hoes Down
-RF

i saw this block. a midget could live inside one of the cylinders!!!I may be a candidate then.... :D I'm a midget american. Yup, as suspected STI_Guy04's car is getting all of the attention this week. Looks like my car won't be in till next week. :(

Say hi to the poor red wagon if you stop by again.

Doh, is it confirmed as next week? What day next week? Monday?

Say hi to the poor red wagon if you stop by again.Will do Ryan. Oh sorry to hear about your Rotora brake kit getting stolen....;)

Doh, is it confirmed as next week? What day next week? Monday?
Robert said the first of next week so maybe Monday-ish.....

Glad to see you'll be back in business soon. I'm sure the wait has been worth it.

Glad to see you'll be back in business soon. I'm sure the wait has been worth it.
Thanks man! Yes, it's been well worth it.:cool:

Will do Ryan. Oh sorry to hear about your Rotora brake kit getting stolen....;)


Nooooooooooooooooooooooeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

*runs to FAT*

Sweet!

That thing is going to be sick Virgil!!! Congrats man!

FXT FTW!!!

Sweet!

That thing is going to be sick Virgil!!! Congrats man!

FXT FTW!!!
Thanks! How is your mod path going so far? Did the bug bite you yet?

Looks GREAT man...:D

Looks GREAT man...:DThanks mang! It would look better with your interior!;)

Dropped her off yesterday afternoon. I'm hoping it'll be complete by the end of next week if all goes well. :)

The guys at FAT just completed my motor swap in record time.

I couldn't be happier. :)

Let us know how it works out Virg

From the looks of those pictures; there is still a lot of cylinder wall between the coolant res, and that's 2.7? Thats wicked cool man :cool: :eek:

The guys at FAT just completed my motor swap in record time.

I couldn't be happier. :)

Let us know how it works out VirgYeah I saw your car parked and ready to go. They wouldn't give me the keys to take it for a test drive.:(

Would there be anyway to squeeze another .3L out of it and have it resleved if the walls are too thin? Those cyl. walls just look unusually bigger then the impreza blocks to me.

Would there be anyway to squeeze another .3L out of it and have it resleved if the walls are too thin? Those cyl. walls just look unusually bigger then the impreza blocks to me.
Hmmm , not sure. The walls are fairly thick but 2.7 should do the trick. If a 3 liter were to go in, it would have to be an H6.:)

spotted ur fxt at fat when i went to drop off my new seats :)

Nice Virg, can't wait for the bast to be back out on the road!

Wow, yeah cant wait to see it!! Since I cant see the pics at work, haha.

Virg any plans to put it on the track it would be nice to see the results of all the $$$ spent

Wow, yeah cant wait to see it!! Since I cant see the pics at work, haha.


ur online at work??? thats a no no where i come from.... :lol:

Virg any plans to put it on the track it would be nice to see the results of all the $$$ spent

With as much as he breaks stuff on the street I can only imagine the carnage at the track :devil:

Im sure Robert wont mind

Looks great man, Good lucky with your project,

As for mine I am lucky to have it back, it sat there for 3-weeks before it got worked on then i come in to check it out and ask for my old short-block back and FAT decided to (steal) Use my short-block for the own personal use!?!?! Without my authorization (wow what a great company)

Then i asked for it back and my options where to take my car back with no motor in it (cuz he pulled it out and would not put it back in) Or to Give up my short block and he would finish my car... Isnt that blackmail

Then today I found they Cut off the Nipple to the top of my External wastegate Wow did i get the Shaft again! All in all I`ll never take my car to another performance shop in my Life time! there all shady and you never you what there doing to your 50k automobile

Good Luck Vsb Xt hope you get better luck then me! Enjoy your block its probably mine................

GO FAT!! GO!!

^^MAN you have bad luck everywhere. WTF

Thanks for the props you guys! I'll get some fresh pics of the tear down and build up tomorrow. No plans to take it to the track for at least a month or until 1K miles then if there are any cool Saturday nights left then Speedworld will be in order!:D

Looks great man, Good lucky with your project,

As for mine I am lucky to have it back, it sat there for 3-weeks before it got worked on then i come in to check it out and ask for my old short-block back and FAT decided to (steal) Use my short-block for the own personal use!?!?! Without my authorization (wow what a great company)

Then i asked for it back and my options where to take my car back with no motor in it (cuz he pulled it out and would not put it back in) Or to Give up my short block and he would finish my car... Isnt that blackmail

Then today I found they Cut off the Nipple to the top of my External wastegate Wow did i get the Shaft again! All in all I`ll never take my car to another performance shop in my Life time! there all shady and you never you what there doing to your 50k automobile

Good Luck Vsb Xt hope you get better luck then me!

GO FAT!! GO!!

:eek: As for your situation, I think you got shafted by Kingpin so bad that you refused to see that FAT was trying to help you. Let's not turn this into a flame fest but a rational reasonable conversation. I'd watched your car from the day it was dropped off to the day it left as I'm always at the shop learning and watching how our subies work. They spent so much time making repairs to hack jobs, making your KP turbo kit fit, and getting the car running again, that they lost money!!! You were another special case like many of us that are now regular customers and Robert took the time to make sure you left with a sound running, and even tunable car. When I was told what you paid for everything I'd almost felt ripped because it was a smoking deal and out of all the hook ups, you got a sweet one! Don't take this wrong way but look what you came with, and now look what you have. Kingpin and a few other unsavory local vendors would not have done this for you. Sorry you feel otherwise.

Feel free to pm me if you want, I'm not an angry guy.:cool:

yeah imagine how difficult it would be, to take a project someone completely hacked to poop, and have to go in and figure it all out and then fix it. i don't know the whole story so i won't comment either way.

back on topic, can't wait to see the fxt back on the road virg! i'm finally dropping mine closer towards earth and the new wheels are waiting:)

Looks great man, Good lucky with your project,

As for mine I am lucky to have it back, it sat there for 3-weeks before it got worked on then i come in to check it out and ask for my old short-block back and FAT decided to (steal) Use my short-block for the own personal use!?!?! Without my authorization (wow what a great company)

Then i asked for it back and my options where to take my car back with no motor in it (cuz he pulled it out and would not put it back in) Or to Give up my short block and he would finish my car... Isnt that blackmail

Then today I found they Cut off the Nipple to the top of my External wastegate Wow did i get the Shaft again! All in all I`ll never take my car to another performance shop in my Life time! there all shady and you never you what there doing to your 50k automobile

Good Luck Vsb Xt hope you get better luck then me! Enjoy your block its probably mine................

GO FAT!! GO!!

That Nipple is just a vent for the waste gate and was cut to prevent a VAC/BOOST hose hooked to it, preventing the malfunction of no Waste-gate. If you really want one back, then come by and we'll get one one no big deal. And the reseason your car sat for three weeks is because you needed to pay for it to be put back together. As soon as you paid (sat for 2 weeks until this), then took a week to finish other paying customers cars and got your car back together and running on King Pins 30R kit in 3 days. Just look at your receipt and you will see that we covered ~$1,700 worth of labor/parts. I would say that takes care of a Blown 2.5L Block core that you think you must have to be happy. Try to sell that on these forums and you'll only get maybe $150-200, MAYBE!!!! Also you called and asked for your old clutch back, if you want it, come get it and we'll get that nipple back and installed for you man. You don't need to get on here and bash FAT's name cause for every action (or lack there of (paying)) there is a equal action (Car done in about a week, AGAIN!!!!!). If you still think you got missed treated, come talk to Robert or Chris and we'll figure something out.

yeah imagine how difficult it would be, to take a project someone completely hacked to poop, and have to go in and figure it all out and then fix it. i don't know the whole story so i won't comment either way.

back on topic, can't wait to see the fxt back on the road virg! i'm finally dropping mine closer towards earth and the new wheels are waiting:)
Finally your FXT get's a little caressing in all the right places!

I dont know how it went down (or if it did). But to me, If i take in a motor ANYWHERE to get replaced no matter what is wrong with it, It is still MY MOTOR bad or not. UNLESS the cost of the core was deducted from the bill in a prior discussion.

common sense tells me that

makes sense to me, except that they also saved you $1700 in labor? i think i'd give up a blown block for that.

I dont know how it went down (or if it did). But to me, If i take in a motor ANYWHERE to get replaced no matter what is wrong with it, It is still MY MOTOR bad or not. UNLESS the cost of the core was deducted from the bill in a prior discussion.

common sense tells me that

Nothing was discussed about keeping old (blown) motor prior to all repairs done. STi_Guy04 showed up a couple of days before paying for KP kit install asking about old motor. Which was after he had car for about 3 weeks for break-in (new built 2.5L he provided) on a TDO4 kit@7psi (provided by FAT).

dude is still sore about the hack job KP did and the sick amount of cash blown therin . its a case of ''you cant see the forest from the trees '' i think . NOBODY else in the valley would even touch this car , especially at the price FAT did it . paying customers will tell you FAT is the best around . and as for time frames , they put that bucket in front of other serious projects that really should have takin precedence over such a car. like myself , i paid upfront and my car is going to be wicked. no more bashing of the fat name would be great . oh ya , and UTI kids really have no place bashing such a fine shop . he could only wish to know what the fat crew does. DONE.

Alright. This whole thing has been goin on for too long . At no point in time was sti_guy04 wronged . And what i really cant understand is that when this guy left the shop (i was there) he was all like '' oh man thanks so much , it looks good (if thats possible for KPkit) , i really appreciate it yadda yadda'' . We even had to modify his kit to accept a freakin battery! So we curved another cost there too really. could've just said that the battery didnt fit and you need to buy a smaller one . But we made it right , as per usual. He was smiling when he left , where did the drama come from ? Anyway this is virgils string here and this dont belong here , so man , like chris said , we can put that nip back on or whatever . but ill tell you right now , you got off easy man . thats a fact . We all know that no1 else was goin to do the work for you , your welcome bro . peace!

Hopefully he apologizes and we can move on. More bad news....got off the phone with Robert and now my rear end is pretty much shot. Hence the constant ripping apart of axles and leaking rear diff.:(

Sorry to hear that Virg :( hopefully it isn't a huge thing to be fixed :(

Looks great man, Good lucky with your project,

As for mine I am lucky to have it back, it sat there for 3-weeks before it got worked on then i come in to check it out and ask for my old short-block back and FAT decided to (steal) Use my short-block for the own personal use!?!?! Without my authorization (wow what a great company)

Then i asked for it back and my options where to take my car back with no motor in it (cuz he pulled it out and would not put it back in) Or to Give up my short block and he would finish my car... Isnt that blackmail

Then today I found they Cut off the Nipple to the top of my External wastegate Wow did i get the Shaft again! All in all I`ll never take my car to another performance shop in my Life time! there all shady and you never you what there doing to your 50k automobile

Good Luck Vsb Xt hope you get better luck then me! Enjoy your block its probably mine................

GO FAT!! GO!!


first of all the fact that the car being an ex kingpin car should be a hinter that we had our hands full with this project just by itself.. i feel that we did everything in our power to satify you.. and the people that posted on this matter should be a sign that im not the only one that thinks so..there was countless hours of cutting and fabbing parts to make everything fit AND WORK RIGHT FOR ONCE not to mention comping you for parts and labor for your blown shortblock that you claim we stole... your car sat for 3 weeks because you didnt come up with all the funds so if you have any prablems at all please give us a call and we are more then happy to make a new reciept and charge you for the things that we should of charged you for so you can get that stuff back if you desire..

Ok everybody just relax a bit. This thread is about virgil's fxt.

STi_Guy04 if you want to discuss this further I suggest giving Robert and Chris a call or starting a new thread. This thread is not the place.

thanks aaron! seans a young momma and daddy pay for everything kid and lets his mouth get the best of him. sti guy 04 is a tool how can u guys stan him ::..


back to subject virg got any more pics then what ul let us see. i just went and looked at a wrecked sti and its tempting to buy and start swapping but then i went and drove a forester xt sport and really like that

Ok everybody just relax a bit. This thread is about virgil's fxt.

STi_Guy04 if you want to discuss this further I suggest giving Robert and Chris a call or starting a new thread. This thread is not the place.

Agreed!!!!!!!!!!! Back to Virg's FXT...... It now (As of Monday) is a bare blown short block, Virg got some pics I think with his phone. Tomarrow, I will be looking forward to start the build-up of the new motor. Can't wait to feel the torque of a 2.7L. He'll need it to be faster then the old GC8 (on Race GAS :disco: LOL Dee/Dan) We'll get the rear-end figured out Virg.:D

ya more good news for virgil

Woo woo I am going to have to stop by and check out teh sexy beast!

Nothing like a 2.75 on 35r with c-16 and nos at sea level it spooled like a tdo4 Virg big turbo kit in your future lets see 10s out of the shoe box lol

lmao im with james..

:D okay you guys here are some pics for viewing purposes, just some tear down stuff really but it's still pretty exiting!
Here is how the pistons look, it's really kind of a shock because sure you'll typically see carbon build up but this is nasty! The pistons look like old ashtrays:eek:
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m201/vsbxt/oldblock.jpg

Here she is gutted and hollow from the histerechtamy(sp?). She'll be good as new soon. ;)
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m201/vsbxt/gutted.jpg

Parts....
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m201/vsbxt/misc.jpg

Also received some good news today. It sounds like Robert will be sourcing an AVO turbo of some sort today. :eek:

looks like you need some better gas!

virg- i should show u some piks of an sti piston that looks like a gold nugget.

looks like you need some better gas!
You know, that's what's messed up, shouldn't Mobile be a good place fo' gasola?

virg- i should show u some piks of an sti piston that looks like a gold nugget. mmm can I get some bbq sauce with that? :eek:

my buddy has a sti in colorado tuned on e85 making 488 to the wheels with a gt35r kit.

my buddy has a sti in colorado tuned on e85 making 488 to the wheels with a gt35r kit.On E85? thats pretty wild!:eek:

ya it is they got a mustang with a single turbo at 1088 whp on e85 as well and it ran and 8.5 quarter mile

heres the post with some video oh ya they calling out clark cause of soome rude comments he made
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1229917&highlight=drac9

I'd run shell gas Virg!

I'd run shell gas Virg!


lol :lol:

Hmm well maybe the Citgo kinda by my house would switch it up a little... No Shell near me though and aren't they the king of watered down gas?

i'll only use shell if its the last gas for the next 100 miles and im on vapors with 2 crying kids in the back of the car... in the middle of the desert.

Robert is the one that said shell is good ish ..and there is one on 59th and the 101 ...

Robert is the one that said shell is good ish ..and there is one on 59th and the 101 ...
Maybe he just wants you to get a new block as well...:p Seriously though, I may give it a try and see how it goes.:)

Well ... I haven't had any more fuel injectors clog up on me yet :) heh ... I heard costco is good as well, which I will hit after work.

Costco is very good.... at destroying fuel filters... lexus had a really big problem with costco fuel.


heck a few of my customers came in with driveability problems. i asked if they used costco they said yes... told them to stop.. and i havent heard from them since reguarding that problem

Costco gas = bad = shocking news! You'd think it would be primo stuff. :confused: May have to stock up on Torco goodies this summer. :alien:

I have always heard costco buys it from the cheapest source available. So you never know what level of quality it is going to be. Sometimes it may be good gas, others not so much. I stay away from it personally.

oil is oil... its what they chop it up with that makes the diff... chevron and 76 are good... but ive been using safeway gas because of the discount and its across the street from me... then yesterday i found out that across the street from the safeway gas station theres a chevron (it hidden). lmao ive been living there since august and i just noticed it going to the meet last nite.

ohh well.... long live techroline.

i only pump shell. its funny to hear people say they wont use it. knock on wood, but never had detonation with it. mynes actually prefers you pump shell before getting on the dyno bc they see less detonation with it over other gas. (not speaking for mynes current opinion as a whole, but that is what a few people working there told me)

http://www.toptiergas.com/index.html


http://www.toptiergas.com/retailers.html

TOP TIER Gasoline Retailers:

QuikTrip
Chevron
Conoco
Phillips
76
Shell
Entec Stations
MFA Oil Company
Kwik Trip/Kwik Star
The Somerset Refinery, Inc.
Chevron-Canada
Aloha Petroleum
Tri-Par Oil Company
Shell-Canada
Texaco
Petro-Canada
Sunoco-Canada

ohh well.... long live techroline.

Techron FTW !

http://www.chevron.com/products/prodserv/fuels/techrongas/tech.shtml click next

http://www.chevron.com/products/prodserv/fuels/techrongas/history.shtml

looks like you need some better gas!

A tank of race would have got rid of all that carbon.:D

Robert is the one that said shell is good ish ..and there is one on 59th and the 101 ...

Mynes recommends shell to all the Evo customers before they tune thet wont tune a car on Chevron gas

Mynes recommends shell to all the Evo customers before they tune thet wont tune a car on Chevron gas

Shell sells race gas @ 60sumtin Ave & Northern in 5gal drums

I think...

100 unleaded

110 leaded (cats FTL)

110 I love it my waste gate not so much

woah i guess gas is pretty good in canada eh?

BP/Mobile isnt on that list eh?

Saw the AVO450 yesterday, and it looks veddy nice. The FXT will be rocking the sad stock injectors so even with a tune this turbo won't be hitting the sweet spot but it's a goal to save up for and it's prolly better that way since the motor will need a legthy break-in anyway. I'm thinking she'll be buttoned up some time next week. :)

Well one more delay squeezed into the FXT project today. It looks like the AVO 450 has a nasty crack in the exhaust housing so until I can find another one, the beast remains crippled. It's a bummer for Robert because he's trying to get her back on the road ASAP and little quirks keep finding their way in. TBC....:(

Mynes recommends shell to all the Evo customers before they tune thet wont tune a car on Chevron gas

If they can only tune a car on Shell gas, then why tune at all? Policies like that will hurt their business and put other cars at risk. You should be able to safely tune a car based on whatever gas is in there as long as it's a top tier station and running the correct octane.

If they can only tune a car on Shell gas, then why tune at all? Policies like that will hurt their business and put other cars at risk. You should be able to safely tune a car based on whatever gas is in there as long as it's a top tier station and running the correct octane.

Not my problem ...I know they tune the sheit out of the Evo no one in this state even comes close to putting down there numbers on dynos or 1/4 mile times so it must be working over there at Evoland(Mynes):D

If they can only tune a car on Shell gas, then why tune at all? Policies like that will hurt their business and put other cars at risk. You should be able to safely tune a car based on whatever gas is in there as long as it's a top tier station and running the correct octane.

i truly dont think mynes is gonna have a problem with business because of the gas they prefer...i think they have proven themselves time and time again... they obviously know there ish... If they feel that shell gas provides a reduced chance for detonation, why not push to use that, it only benefits the consumer. They are protecting you and your asset. Mynes and any other tuner for that matter makes you sign a waiver that legal does not hold them responsible for anything that might happen to your car when in there hands. So I think I’ll stick with a tank of Shell next time im there. :D

Well due to many difficulties trying to get this AVO450 exhaust housing in a pinch, it looks like we've sourced an 18G instead. True it may not be as huge as the AVO but for running pump 91 on Ecutek everyday, the 18G will be perfect for daily driving needs.

Drove her home today and the break-in now begins. It sounds like a diesle engine right now, and likely always will. Just waiting for a decent sized turbo at the moment and it should turn up by the time break-in is done. :) F.A.T. has really gone to bat for me on this and I can't thank them enough. There is a whole list of goodies and repairs they've also made along the way and overall this car should be way more reliable in the long run now.

Nice congratz.

I love it when a FAT plan comes together !

Also wanted to say thanks to Kastle for helping me with my turbo situation. :cool:

I've gotten very little support from other vendors in regards to that AVO450 and it was very disapointing. It's good to know that we have much better support here locally!

update? We need another Forester on the road.

We also need a nother cofeehouse meet ;)

yeah im with aaron!!!

Agreed, we should do another meet. The only updates are the FXT is back in the shop due to an AVCS issue right now. She should be up and running again today. There were also some weird vibrations that sounded like a wheel bearing and a baby owl in the back chirping nervously:eek: . Come to find out Kris noticed it was the downpipe rubbing on the tranny mount or sumfin'. The noises are now gone! :D

Nice .. I can't wait till the motor is broken in .... to see how this puppy spools!!!!

Congrats Virg good to see your up and runnin again

congrats virg! i think you should drive my way for some break-in miles:)

Thanks you guys, it is pretty cool looking back to where this car has come from being stock to what it's forming into now. Erin, I'll definetly have to make it out to Surge soon and do the yearly visit with you guys. :D BTW, that new magnetic drain plug you guys carry, found it's way under the FXT's oil pan.;)

sweet, i found some interesting metal shards on my magnetic plug the last oil change!

oooooh...can you smell the cobb 2.5? I can.

sweet, i found some interesting metal shards on my magnetic plug the last oil change!

O man rebuild time

sweet, i found some interesting metal shards on my magnetic plug the last oil change!
Ruh roh.....:eek:

Ahhh its a 2.0l drive at 30 plus psi and youll be fine :lol:

i know. didn't concern me much. i'm surprised it's survived the beating it's taken the last 2 years. 2.5 ftw.

I concur...

i know. didn't concern me much. i'm surprised it's survived the beating it's taken the last 2 years. 2.5 ftw.Hey Erin, what are you putting down with that 18G anyway?

276whp on 91, 18psi max. the wastegate won't hold anymore boost for some reason so we didn't want to push it anymore. i just got the prodrive 3 port boost solenoid, so we'll retune with real boost and real octane. shouldn't have any problems making 300+. 300whp is as far as i want to go on my poor 2.0.

276whp on 91, 18psi max. the wastegate won't hold anymore boost for some reason so we didn't want to push it anymore. i just got the prodrive 3 port boost solenoid, so we'll retune with real boost and real octane. shouldn't have any problems making 300+. 300whp is as far as i want to go on my poor 2.0.Hmm just trying to figure out what it would do with my stock injectors since that's going on the FXT soon. Wonder what typical whp the stock FXT injectors(same as usdm sti) start to max at. :confused:

:banana: Break-in is done now. SHe got her 500 mile oil change and had a chance to get on her a little bit to see how the torque is. It really pulls much stronger in all gears but 5th is where it's real noticable because it moves so much faster now on the freeway. It needs a tune but we're waiting on the 18G to come in, and off she'll go to put some numbers down. Can't wait! :D

When are yo having DC tune it I would like to see how it pulls

When are yo having DC tune it I would like to see how it pulls

+1 Let me know when you get the tune, if I can break free I would love to see what she does.

When are yo having DC tune it I would like to see how it pulls
As soon as the 18G get's here and is slapped on she'll go off for the tune! Wish it were today...:D

+1 Let me know when you get the tune, if I can break free I would love to see what she does.Right on Alan, I'll give you a holla! :cool:

Right on Alan, I'll give you a holla! :cool:

Not me :( :( womp womp lol:lol:

Not me :( :( womp womp lol:lol:I still have yo numba! I'll give you a jingle!:alien:

As soon as the 18G get's here and is slapped on she'll go off for the tune! Wish it were today...:D

are u on the stock snail right now?

VF39 I believe .. he is on.

watchin intently

^me too. Maybe after i get my xt this summer ill save up so robert can do a on mine. I have a friend here who speaks pretty highly of his work since robert is the only one he lets touch it pretty much

are u on the stock snail right now?
It was on a VF30 before and now it's a VF39 temporarily. It's not a bad turbo though for break-in. :)

^me too. Maybe after i get my xt this summer ill save up so robert can do a on mine. I have a friend here who speaks pretty highly of his work since robert is the only one he lets touch it pretty much
Yes, and he's certainly had a hand in many an FXT! :eek:

Latest update, The FP18G is finally ceramic coated and will go on in about a week. Just shopping injectors right now and I'm going to have Clark Turner tune my FXT since I've finally been able to locate him :disco: . Can't wait to have this car running like a champ again! :banana: After this, it will be time to focus on bling like interior and exterior mods and call it a day. :D

"call it a day" who are you kidding

+1 heh ... glad to hear that the turbo is finally coming along.

"call it a day" who are you kidding:lol: Thought about that a little after typing that out.
Def:
Call it a day:
1.) Meaning or pertaining to believing you are done w/ modding but in all seriousness never happens.

2.) Projects is complete till sumfin else breaks.

+1 heh ... glad to hear that the turbo is finally coming along.
Werd! You're next my friend, oh yes, you're next. :devil:

If Robert were to build a legacy specific turbo ... and it somehow ended up in my car .. it wouldn't be my fault :)

What Software is Clark going to tune you on?

What Software is Clark going to tune you on?
He's got access to Ecutek so that's what we'll be using, but has open sourse as well that can be just as good if not better in many ways. If I had a stock ECU I'd go w/ open source. :)

Good luck Virgil! Clark is a good dude.

He's got access to Ecutek so that's what we'll be using, but has open sourse as well that can be just as good if not better in many ways. If I had a stock ECU I'd go w/ open source. :)
.
i prefer real-time tuning with "special" setups(non-typical bolt on stuff). and it's about time you get some real air into the fxt!

Killer motor V. Cant wait to get her tuned in.

Whats up Cronic... Long time no talk. Tried to call you a couple times. Hit me up. I think my motor has about had it. Its been in since 04 with the 35R and nitrous at a 90 shot. That motor is doing a magic trick with oil... Poof and it disapears. Been driving my car full time because it gets twice the mileage of my truck. Wanna come over next month and help me yank it out?

Clark

Good luck Virgil! Clark is a good dude.
Thanks man! Yeah, I know he's got a lot of tricks up his sleeve to make good reliable powa! :D
.
i prefer real-time tuning with "special" setups(non-typical bolt on stuff). and it's about time you get some real air into the fxt!
Yes, real-time tuning would prolly be best as we will not be using a dyno in this case. Just good ol' hot Az freeway real world conditions. :devil: Agreed, the 18G should do good w/ this motor, just wish I'd had extra cash for an EWG for this tune. :(

Killer motor V. Cant wait to get her tuned in.

Whats up Cronic... Long time no talk. Tried to call you a couple times. Hit me up. I think my motor has about had it. Its been in since 04 with the 35R and nitrous at a 90 shot. That motor is doing a magic trick with oil... Poof and it disapears. Been driving my car full time because it gets twice the mileage of my truck. Wanna come over next month and help me yank it out?

ClarkIt's amazing how long your motor has lasted w/ that setup! :eek:

so what u been doin virg? I ended up buying wrecked 06 to swap everything from it to the beater forester but I bought my dream house and sold everything. so what is the update on ur fxt?lets see videos!!!

so what u been doin virg? I ended up buying wrecked 06 to swap everything from it to the beater forester but I bought my dream house and sold everything. so what is the update on ur fxt?lets see videos!!!
Hey J! Yeah, the forester is on hold at the moment. WIfes grandfather backed into her car on Thursday so now we have to come up w/ $500 for the deductable on our insurance to fix it. Guess that tapped into my injector+tune money. Never fails, I've got the worlds slowest build going on this car on account of something popping up everytime I get ready to upgrade the FXT.:lol:

So you bought a dream house? Post some pics, and tell me you have a fishing pond in Michigan, isn't that what a lot of houses up there have to offer?:)

no problem ill get pics. ya no ponds.lol but it has overhalf acre backyard. sorry to hear bout the legacy

no problem ill get pics. ya no ponds.lol but it has overhalf acre backyard. sorry to hear bout the legacy1.2 acre backyard! Holy John Deere Mower! :eek:
Yup, no big deal now her gramps has offered to pay the deductable so some money will find it's way back in my hands for injectors! :banana:

Finally broke down(not the FXT) and bought some PE800's of some sort from Caliente. Trying to be a cheap skate it's amazing how hard it is to buy used injectors in town but meh, used may be a bad idea in the long run. Plus Caliente gave me the brotherly hook up :cool: , so once the injectors are in, off she goes for a tune. :disco:

^^^ Keep us posted on when she gets tuned, if I can get away from work, like to see what she does.

^^^ Keep us posted on when she gets tuned, if I can get away from work, like to see what she does.You got it Alan! :)

ya got to getme a riding mower but whatever.

ya got to getme a riding mower but whatever.NOS on teh mower FTMFW!!!!:devil:

something something this cars gonna kick a$$ :devil:

God I hope so. Can't wait to do cosmetic mods after this as she's showing her age I'd say. :alien:

Went to Caliente and picked up the PE850's(side feeds) yesterday for a steal! After a lot of shopping around for both new and used, I think they are the cheapest in town as Noah was offering them at $525 not including tax of course, but still a smoking hot deal and the whole transaction was quick and painless! :eek: Then stopped by FAT where Kris was able to throw the ol' 18G in and running on 9psi WG boost for now. It is scary how quickly this turbo spools since we tested it out a little before hand. It hits as quick as dare I say the TD04 and yes I'm serious it spools really really quick prolly due to the slight increase in displacement :alien: . Squeezed in an appointment for a tune w/ Dynocomp on Monday so the injectors will have to wait till then as the 850's will prolly have this thing drowning in fuel w/ anything past 5k rpms. :lol: It's so awesome that it's finally coming together, and soon it will be time for "operation bling shoe box" to take place when everything under the hood is complete. :D Woo Hooo! :banana: :banana:

CONGRATS BUDDY. Ill have to get a ride in that beast

I saw in Prev post that you were going to have Clark tune the car and now your have having Dyno Comp do it why the change

I saw in Prev post that you were going to have Clark tune the car and now your have having Dyno Comp do it why the change


Probably renting Dynocomps' dyno, and having Clark tune it. That's what my plans are when the GC is done. Good choice! :disco:
Tell Clark to be expecting a phone call from me next month for a tune! :D

Actually clark is not tuning his car from what I understand ...

/\ Word? :confused: Well, he's hopefully gonna tune mine! :lol:

I saw in Prev post that you were going to have Clark tune the car and now your have having Dyno Comp do it why the change

So whats up then...?:confused:

For reasons of scheduling conflict I'm going w/ Rich at Dynocomp. Still respect Clark very much as a tuner but he's pretty slammed these days w/ dyno days etc. Plus, Robert of FAT wanted Rich originaly to do the tune and see what it does on Dynocomps dyno etc. so since he took the time to special build this motor it's only fair we go that route for now. Still may have Clark do some tinkering later on if an ewg and water injection and koyo radiator make it on board before summers end. :)

Ooh forgot to mention, just switched to 20/50W Royal Purple and the motor is waaaay quieter now. That stuff is awesome! :eek:

Ooh forgot to mention, just switched to 20/50W Royal Purple and the motor is waaaay quieter now. That stuff is awesome! :eek:

Its like KY :D

Its like KY :DNow to convince the wife to use it in the sac! :D

dark purple prob not the right color for down there

^:lol:


Congrats on getting the injectors, i am interested to see how much the forester can put down with that 2.7L motor in it!

^:lol:


Congrats on getting the injectors, i am interested to see how much the forester can put down with that 2.7L motor in it!Yes, very curious what numbers it will be w/ that turbo...I'd guess 300whp if I'm lucky on 91 of course it could be 315whp on a dynojet but oh man the spool up and mid-top end is what I'm really looking forward to. That turbo is so responsive already! :banana:

Today is the day! Wooo hooo!:banana:

Dang your AC broke? What broke?

Sweet i wanna hear the numbers with that Motor... I guess see them on line.

Looking forward to the results as well.

:lol: virg i just realized i was at dynocomp getting my springs, ss and bushings when you made your tuning appt with rich.
i also cant wait to see the results! :banana:

What's the word? Talk to us!!

OK Virg, whats the deal? I am betting,... in this heat...305 HP, 340TQ

OK Virg, whats the deal? I am betting,... in this heat...305 HP, 340TQReal close on the WHP but not the wtq man! :p 307.9whp and 298wtq
So here it is, and I'm way happy with this and Rich put a lot of time into the tune as we had some boost control issues. He did a few tweaks here and there and got it running real nice. Oh and keep in mind it was 96-98F in there.

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m201/vsbxt/HPIM1185.jpg

And take a look at the boost curve, or should I say consistant boost across redline w/out so much curve. :devil:
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m201/vsbxt/HPIM1186.jpg
The drivability of this car is now amazing! No fumbling, stumbling, or jerking and it just drives clean. The power feels silky on the highway and violent from a stop. Called Robert right away tonight to let him know how she runs now and how this motor spools this turbo and holds it. Talked to Rich a little bit about other supporting mods for this turbo and a CAI, a 3'' midpipe, w/ possibly a nice header would really bring things to life in the near future. I'm curious what this would do on a dynojet now. :D

Dang your AC broke? What broke?Well after checking fuses, relays, a/c lines etc. I neglected to check the one thing that really matters....The Belt! :lol: That's right, it snapped in two peices and could have easily went behind the timing belt and disaster almost had me again. :eek:

Awesome Virgil, glad to hear that the tune worked out for you. The best thing, is that you are happy!

Awesome Virgil, glad to hear that the tune worked out for you. The best thing, is that you are happy!Thanks mang! Yeah, not much left to complain cept of course needing some beauty behind the beast. She's starting to look like Karmen Electra, you know, still kinda hot and prolly great in the sac but weathered w/out needed surgery to peice all the good stuff back together. :p

Thanks mang! Yeah, not much left to complain cept of course needing some beauty behind the beast. She's starting to look like Karmen Electra, you know, still kinda hot and prolly great in the sac but weathered w/out needed surgery to peice all the good stuff back together. :p

:lol:


thats the first time i have ever heard someone use a carmen electra reference like that


too bad it wont fit on a license plate!:banana:

Congrats on the numbers ! how's the car feel? like a new beast!?

Congrats..

Can you throw up a mod list please? I really don't wanna sift through 9pages..lol

Nice. Bet it is a blast to drive now.

Nice hrs power ,but the torque looks really low and that turbo took forever to spool...that turbo on a 2.7 should have spooled alot sooner,Ive seen 30R spool faster on 2.5 blocks why so late did you have hime set it this way???

Nice hrs power ,but the torque looks really low and that turbo took forever to spool...that turbo on a 2.7 should have spooled alot sooner,Ive seen 30R spool faster on 2.5 blocks why so late did you have hime set it this way???

That is kinda where i was going, but wanted to check out his complete modlist.

Great minds think a like

Congrats on the numbers ! how's the car feel? like a new beast!?
I'd have to say so. Like going from an ewok to Chew-Baca! :disco:
Nice. Bet it is a blast to drive now.
Yes, now it's time you pamper your FXT! Next time I see you, we got to go for a spin. :cool:
Nice hrs power ,but the torque looks really low and that turbo took forever to spool...that turbo on a 2.7 should have spooled alot sooner,Ive seen 30R spool faster on 2.5 blocks why so late did you have hime set it this way???
That is kinda where i was going, but wanted to check out his complete modlist.
Here's the latest modlist. Yeah it really doesn't feel laggy if that's what's on your minds, maybe due to the RA tranny? But, then again it's not the TD04 comparison I was going for before the tune either. :D I did mention to Rich that I'm usually driving on the freeway or hwy these days so he may have catered to my driving habits as well. :alien:

Here's the latest contributing mod list w/ Ecutek:
Engine:F.A.T 2.7L Shortblock w/ JE pistons(ceramic coated) ACL bearings, Total seal Rings,(some brand of) gold magnetic oil drain plug, F.A.T oil cooler mod, FP18G ceramic coated, PE850's injectors, Perrin shortram, Ebay turbo inlet, B&B Downpipe/Upipe, FAT catback, FAT TGV deletes, custom fmic and PWR couplers w/ custom coolant overflow, HKS SSQ BOV, Walbro FP, Blingy weapon R catch can, Lineage ground wires, NGK one step colder plugs, AP oil cap, relocated coolant lines from intake manifold(reduces heat), and Carbon fiber alt/belt cover, and Odyssey lightweight battery.

this weekend i dynoed my car with the low compression pistons and wrx heads with sti cams, and no AVCS and 2.5 shortblock. It spools my sr55 almost exactly the same as ur 2.7. i would expect your 18g to spool much faster than my car.

Congrats on havin her back to 100%, and 307 WHP!!!! :banana: :devil: :banana:

I definitly want a ride in her now! Time for a Flagstaff Run!!:D

this weekend i dynoed my car with the low compression pistons and wrx heads with sti cams, and no AVCS and 2.5 shortblock. It spools my sr55 almost exactly the same as ur 2.7. i would expect your 18g to spool much faster than my car.

Pretty much.. Something is off here, no doubt about it.. If i hadn't saw a boost plot i would think your boost was bleeding off. Was your map sensor agreeing with the dyno boost logs?

I mean on my 2.0 with a green i was hitting 23psi at like 4k IIRC. That is like a 42r on a 2.5ltr. You don't make 19psi till after 5k.. I would just mabe give it a once over..

Later bro,
D-

Congrats on havin her back to 100%, and 307 WHP!!!! :banana: :devil: :banana:

I definitly want a ride in her now! Time for a Flagstaff Run!!:D
Agreed, it's too hot here and Flag would be just the ticket! You'll get a ride fo sho mang!
Pretty much.. Something is off here, no doubt about it.. If i hadn't saw a boost plot i would think your boost was bleeding off. Was your map sensor agreeing with the dyno boost logs?

I mean on my 2.0 with a green i was hitting 23psi at like 4k IIRC. That is like a 42r on a 2.5ltr. You don't make 19psi till after 5k.. I would just mabe give it a once over..

Later bro,
D-
Yeah, maybe later I'll run it by Rich and see what he thinks. I'm in a honeymoon period right now and just in love w/ the tune as is,so not too concerned yet. Might wait for another reflash w/ some headers, cai, and a midpipe though to yield a smidge more wtq. :cool: