Here they are...the pics of my wrecked WRX. These arent for the faint of heart. I can't wait to see the posts about how much insurance is going to rise on the WRX. OK, here we go...

Heres another...and two more to come...sorry for the large size

:(

Last one...damn it sucks to look at these

Looks like you clubbed something colorful with the driver's door... what *did* you hit?

Brian
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I don't know what that is...its some kind of reflection. oh ya...i hit a curb and a couple trees...mix in the car rolling over and landing on the roof(thats what the cops told me)...and there is the finished product.

stevo

Also...the dude in the last picture, which was taken about 3 days after the accident, was in the car with me when the accident occured. Crazy.

stevo

Originally posted by Steve-oWRX
Last one...damn it sucks to look at these

I was just thinking, "Man, it feels great to be alive, in one piece and able to look at those pictures."

ya...I've had two months to think about that already...thank god..it could've been so much worse

Wow - you were lucky to make it out of that one. At least the center rear brake light wasn't damaged.

Originally posted by procrustes
Wow - you were lucky to make it out of that one. At least the center rear brake light wasn't damaged.

Ya...I had 6 cd's in the cd player too, and that still worked, and I got them out.

I'm glad to see that you are okay, as well.
On a side note, this is pretty good proof of the strength of the passenger compartment. Considering you flipped and landed on the roof.

If this doesn't show you that the WRX is a "safe" car, in that after totaling it, the passenger walks away, I don't know what will. I messed up my knee, but I'm a tall guy (6'4). Tell me of any other car that you can flip over, hit trees, and have less injuries than my accident. Later all.

stevo

How did it happen?

I'm jealous, my airbags didn't go off.

Glenn

I think that you can say Formula 1 technology has influenced cars like the S2000 with a high reving engines.....the above shows what Subaru has taken to production with their chassis, ala FIA World Rally.....

What the h*ll happened? You posted these pics & thank goodness your OK, but now I implore you to tell....

The WRX is a goddamn tank!

Originally posted by gabedude
The WRX is a goddamn tank!

:lol: I've gotta say...that made me laugh.

Well...what happened...OK. I was trying to "drift" the car around a turn. Took the turn too fast, the back end came out a little. There was also a gravel driveway right after the turn, and some piles of gravel were in the road. Anyhow, I lost control and hit the curb with the front right tire. The car went off road, traveled about 100 feet and was stopped by two trees. I'm not sure exactly what happened after I hit the curb, but the car ended up on the drivers side/roof. Not a good experience. All I can say is don't think AWD is god. My mother said that I thought the car was the batmobile. And I kind of did. Well I ended up with a broken tibia plateau (leg bone close to the bottom of the knee) and I haven't been able to walk for 2 months now. I just started waling with the help of crutches. My friend was in the passenger seat, and walked away with no injuries. BTW, I'm 22 years old, bought the car myself, and wrecked it myself. Drive safely!!

stevo

Originally posted by Glenn Wallace
How did it happen?

I'm jealous, my airbags didn't go off.

Glenn

Well, the airbag hit me in the face, and gave me a really sore nose, so maybe it was best it didnt go off;)

Its funny cause in the brochure they talk about the safety factor of the WRX being rally inspired not just crash test dummy inspired...

TANK!

:D

ouch.

Jeremy

Man, you weren't kidding with that subject line. I'm just glad to see that you're still alive. I don't think you would have survived a real life crash test like this one in a car built 20 years ago, it is truly amazing how well the car protected you. I hope your knee gets better soon!

Damn bro... officially what did the cops classify it as?

Jorge (RiftsWRX)
www.ProjectWRX.com

Originally posted by RiftsWRX
Damn bro... officially what did the cops classify it as?

Jorge (RiftsWRX)
www.ProjectWRX.com

i am guessing some form of wreckless driving with a possible felany edangerment charge....but i'd be curious

Jeremy

Glad to see you are allright
*note to self... no spirited driving on roads I have not inspected before-hand* :eek: :eek: :eek:

OK. I was trying to "drift" the car around a turn.

No drifting on the street, please.

I was once 18 and flipped my 1989 Volkswagon GLI. At the time I thought it was Super Car....and this is what all these kids are going to think about the new WRX...turbo, 4 wheel drive, ABS...they think they can go around any corner at any speeds!!! Hey kids, do me a favor....join the SCCA and or do some time trials on a closed track, before even attempting anything wild on the streets....better yet.....keep all the wild driving for the track and try to win some trophies!!! Then just cruise home and pick up some hot chicks and cruise on to the movies!!! Take it from me!!! Don't try and be Senna on the streets!!!

Well, the beauty of age-based stupidity is that it recycles. I am reminded of a forty-something friend and father who was worried that his 14-year-old son was bringing girls home.

"What do you think he's going to do," wondered my friend.
"The same damned thing YOU did," replied I.

A similar tale can be had from the older drivers, scoffing at the mishaps of younger drivers. There's the old "If I knew then what I know now" syndrome. But just as we refused to listen to those older than us, so it goes with the younger members of this board. They are going to tear up cars, no question about it.

But as my Skip Barber instructors were fond of saying, "If we knew then what we know now, there'd be a lot of really nice, fast older cars around." It is said that a driver doesn't really begin to want to learn how to drive until their first serious accident, a need for knowledge motivated by a desire to never again be out of control. I rather believe this myself, especially in a nation where being a good driver means getting down the road and not running into anything.

I wouldn't mind seeing a higher standard, but if it were more difficult to get a driver's license, who would buy all of those cars being manufacturered? Why, the instigator of this thread will account for two cars on the collective bottom line, all by himself.

Let's stay safe out there, y'all.

Kevin

well put.

Originally posted by RiftsWRX
Damn bro... officially what did the cops classify it as?

Jorge (RiftsWRX)
www.ProjectWRX.com

All I got was a ticket for failure to control. No speeding, no reckless operation, no felony endangerment. Lucky

stevo

...People over 25 years of age lose control of their cars and wreck also...Also...did you know that most DUI charges are against drivers over the age of 26? And that elderly people (ages 60+)are involved in more accidents then people under the age of 23? Teens aren't the only ones getting in accidents you know.

stevo

Originally posted by Glenn Wallace


No drifting on the street, please.

I second that...

Stevo,
Where did this happen? I was wondering why I haven't seen you around Mentor. I'm sorry for the loss of you car but greatfully you were not seriously injured.

Steve

Teens aren't the only ones getting in accidents you know. Obviously, but a high proportion of young drivers will do stupid things to WRX's. You're a prime example of that.

man sorry to hear/see this. At least you are a live and somewhat healthy, hope this is a lesson to all of us!

Well I'm sorry to hear about your incident. Thankfully you are okay, suffering only mior injuries. I just thought that I might try to offer some words of encouragement. Don't let your mishap get you down. We all make mistakes, some of us aren't lucky enough though to learn from them. You are one of those few that have a second chance, and there is proably a good reason for it. I hope that you will have the chance to get another WRX. If you feel the same way about your car that I do mine, I'm sure that you will want another one. Just because you got bucked off, doesn't mean you shouldn't get back on and ride again. I'm sure now though that you will be a much more cautious driver than before, and will think twice before trying to push the envelope again. Either way, get well soon! ;)

Originally posted by Steve-oWRX


All I got was a ticket for failure to control. No speeding, no reckless operation, no felony endangerment. Lucky

stevo

wow...you got off easy...around here they woulda thrown everything at you....my friend lost control of a work truck in the rain and they nailed him with 2 moving violations and destruction of private property(hit a city owned tree and gouged it).....glad you are okay though.

jeremy

oh yeah ladies and gentlemen...i think it's rather unnecessary to flame him for this...it was a dumb move and i am sure he knows that now, last thing he needs is more people lecturing him on how NOT to drive....the dude's car is totalled and his insurance will be astonomical so i think that's lesson enough. I somehow don't think he'll be doing this again. So please try not to lecture....i give him credit for having the nuts to post those pics and about the accident. That in itself takes one hell of a person.

jeremy

Just my $.02

At least give the dude a verbal slap on the wrist for totaling a WRX. Bad tank driver. BAD, BAD. :)

I learned from these wrecked rex pix to scout the roads beforehand and NOT to use stock tires when I backroad rally

This sounded like it was on a paved street. Right?

I didn't get a ticket for my accident. The deputy said "you have enough problems already". Nice.

Glenn

man, I think we need to put a sticky on top of this forum. "Please do not try to drift, slide or driving 100mph in the snow. WRX is not a RALLY car." Way too many people bought into the hype watching the commercial. Thinking that they are Colin McRae or Richard Burns.
Or we can have an accident forum..

Originally posted by jk147
man, I think we need to put a sticky on top of this forum. "Please do not try to drift, slide or driving 100mph in the snow. WRX is not a RALLY car." Way too many people bought into the hype watching the commercial. Thinking that they are Colin McRae or Richard Burns.
Or we can have an accident forum..


nah...it IS a rally car in the correct situations...just NOT on city streets, and yes this to me sounded like it was paved as well and he hit gravel thru the turn throwing off th car's balance...people seem to forget that richard burns, colin mcCrae and all them do this for a living....and they wreck cars regularlly but they have full roll cages and harness to keep them put.

Jeremy

Originally posted by jk147
man, I think we need to put a sticky on top of this forum. "Please do not try to drift, slide or driving 100mph in the snow. WRX is not a RALLY car." Way too many people bought into the hype watching the commercial. Thinking that they are Colin McRae or Richard Burns.
Or we can have an accident forum..

You are right, no one should try to drive 100 mph in the snow. Snow...this happened in 70 degree weather. Anyone who even attempts to drive ANY car 100 mph in the snow is a total idiot. I bought the car because...value..."rareness"...and because for under 25 grand, its absolutely the best car you can buy..

stevo

:mad: :mad: :mad: :(

We need a new forum for thrashed subbies. Seems like it's 2 sometimes 3 a week now.....

And I am wondering my the insurance rates on the WRX are climbing.

Originally posted by tdman77
And I am wondering my the insurance rates on the WRX are climbing.

Maybe the economy being in such bad shape...inflation rising..and ya..and add unemployment rising...and you've got your reasons for rising rates. Oh ya...and Sept. 11th, almost sending many insurance companies out of business...ARE the reasons for rising rates.

Originally posted by STORER
Stevo,
Where did this happen? I was wondering why I haven't seen you around Mentor. I'm sorry for the loss of you car but greatfully you were not seriously injured.

Steve

Steve,

My accident happened just off of Hopkins road, at the street where Annabells is. Just over the train tracks heading north, I took that left turn too fast, and slid on gravel that was on the road. Doesn't one of your buddies have a blue WRX? I think I remember you telling me you guys go to Downtown Will. a lot; I saw his car up there as I was driving by there. I really haven't done much going out since this accident waiting for this knee to heal. I am walking a bit now, so we will have to hang out down there sometime. Tell your buddy he has to give me a ride, I've been DYING to ride in a WRX again. Later

Stevo

First off, glad you are OK. You were one of the first people to second the guys comment that you shouldn't be drifting on the street...so I have no idea why ppl are flaming you. People learn lessons in different ways. Unfortunately you had to learn yours the hard way. I do, however have some questions if you don't mind answering them.

You said that you might of been better off had the airbag not released...other than a sore nose, did it caus you any other troubles? How about the side airbag...did it deploy? Any problems there? How about your passenger? I too took a little trip off road:

http://www1.appstate.edu/~jg25023/towless1ready.jpg

However I didn't have any airbags to come between my head and the tree, much less the rest of my body. I guess you could call me a tree hugger :p Just wondering how the WRX would fair in the same situation...

Thanks

VV

HFS VetteVert! You are LUCKY to be alive!. That tree almost split your truck in 2!

Damn those things are beasts...totaled front and rear with 4 passenger and everyone walked out harmless....the same way the accident happened...NEEDS BETTER TIRES.....NOW I GOT A BLUE ONE AND I DO 35mph everywhere..lol..i love my car.

Jay

Stevo,

E-mail me after Christmas, John (that's the guy with the other WRX) and I are planning on going to 1899 over my vacation (I'm taking Dec 18-28 off!) Not only will John give you a ride, we can also check out his altimate BMW auto-X project car.

Steve

Originally posted by STORER
Stevo,

E-mail me after Christmas, John (that's the guy with the other WRX) and I are planning on going to 1899 over my vacation (I'm taking Dec 18-28 off!) Not only will John give you a ride, we can also check out his altimate BMW auto-X project car.

Steve

Sounds good man, by then I should be in good shape to go out. Later.

stevo

Everyone b|tches about the new age imprezas weighing more than the old RSs. Esp the new RS vs old RS types. Going a little faster feels good certainly, but I'll appreciate those extra 300 lbs when I get into a crash. Quite a few of us Impreza people do. Most of that extra weight is this new ring construction thing and generally making the car a little tougher. I'm cool with it. 3000 lbs being pulled by 165 hp ain't so bad, and being pulled by 227 is even better.

Props to the GC8s. I have absolutely nothing but respect for them, but I am glad my mighty TS has a little more armor.

-IggDawg

That really sucks. How fast were you going when you did that? At least you are okay surprisingly so.

hey steve-o, glad you're doing good! too bad the car isn't = (, but i guess thats the whole reason why you were able to survive the accident. anyway, so what's gonna happen - getting another wrx? hows the insurance gonna handle this deal??? geez, just looking at those pictures i've learned my lesson about driving

Hey stevo,
Just wanted to let you know I'm glad you're ok. I see you read about my little mishap. My car came out of it a little better, but I was lucky. If i would have been going faster I could have done much more damage. It sucks about your car, but they make new ones everyday, your insurance will eventually go down, and most importantly, you'll be here to see those 2 things happen. Good luck,
Bryan

Originally posted by 128d
That really sucks. How fast were you going when you did that? At least you are okay surprisingly so.

fast enough;) ...seriously though...im not sure...probably around 45mph.

Originally posted by Penguinking
hey steve-o, glad you're doing good! too bad the car isn't = (, but i guess thats the whole reason why you were able to survive the accident. anyway, so what's gonna happen - getting another wrx? hows the insurance gonna handle this deal??? geez, just looking at those pictures i've learned my lesson about driving

I will get another WRX, just not right now. I have to finish my masters degree, then I will buy one. My insurance paid off the finance company to the tune of 24,000. The payoff was 23,100, so they also sent me a check for 900 bucks. Then I got a check from my finance company for an additional 765. I am still on my parents insurance, and they just got their new policies, and surprisingly, they did not increase. But once I go to get my own insurance, it'll be a good five years until I pay a decent rate.

On a side note, I drove my mothers sebring limited the other day. Every time I stepped on the gas I was disappointed because I kept waiting for turbo to kick in:( . I guess I got addicted to boost:D

stevo

Man that sucks. Glad you made it out alive. =) If i had my choice of me looking like that car after an accident or the car looking like that i'd pick the car. Glad to see i bought a safe car! I try to avoid creating my own accidents there are too many other people that I have to watch out for! I sware everyone is out to hit my WRX!

All of those in favor of a forum for wrecked Subarus vote "YES".
All of those not in favor of a forum for wrecked Subarus vote "NO".
Please offer suggestions for a forum name so maybe we can get the forum added.
1. Fubarus
2. Wrecked WRXes
3. Scooby Dents
4. Gallery of the Macabre
5. Dead Scoobs
6. Rex Mortuus, Dui Vivo Rex (The king is dead, long live the king!)
7. Broken Tanks
8. owner sponsored destructive testing results

Originally posted by IggDawg
Everyone b|tches about the new age imprezas weighing more than the old RSs. Esp the new RS vs old RS types. Going a little faster feels good certainly, but I'll appreciate those extra 300 lbs when I get into a crash.

If you've seen some of the pics of the accidents with the older RS's, you'd know that they make it through with the passengers just as unscathed as the new ones. I'm honestly not sure where the extra 300lbs. went, I can only guess that it's just a little more into the roll structure... even if I see the old & new having about the same level of damage on rolls, etc. *shrug*

I get frustrated with a lot of the people who keep saying, "Save it for the track" or "Go to an autocross"

I live in BFE Lafayette, LA... the nearest REAL track (not drag racing) is No Problem Raceway which is about 45 minutes south of Baton Rouge. Thats a 2 hour 1 way trip for me.

The only other auto-x events I know of are in Houston TX at the Houston Police Academy track or the old Blimp site and that's a 3.5 hour 1 trip IF I speed like a mofo. :(

If municipal and community organizations would provide feasible alternatives to driving recklessly on the streets I think some people could satisify their "curiousity" about their cars in a safer envivronment. I have been to 2 auto-x events so far which were a complete blast, but that doesn't mean I won't hop in my car at 11pm when the streets are empty and take a few corners faster than I should. I'm 25 years old and I drove like a grandma until I was about 21 because I was literally scared to death of driving. Its funny because now the older I get the more dangerous I drive.

We have a HUGE (several football fields) parking lot in our city that is not even used most weekends in our city. In fact the police in our city use it to do their road course training but none of the events are open to the public. All it takes is a simple liability waiver, an ambulance, a few police officers to over see things and a well laid out course and the city can make money charging people 5-10 bucks to go tear up the parking lot in their cars.

Also its been my experience most auto-x events are about 1 once a month with SCCA and once ever 2-3 months for BMW and Porsche car clubs. (which are open to anyone who brings money)

Do I drive dangerously on the streets? YUP!

Do I endager other people's live beside my own? NOPE! (Well maybe a stray animal or 2) ;)

Do I drive dangerously on unknown streets? NOPE!

Do I drive dangersouly when its raining? (It rarely snows here in the south) HELL NO!!!

No granted I drive an a FWD car so worst case scenario for me is I start to plow... I lift off the gas, regain traction, and back to life as normal.

I realize that every time I get in my car, I might exceed my abilities and not be able to regain control and ram into a curb and f' my car up. IF you are going to drive dangerous don't do it in the mountains, don't do it near cliffs, nears trees, homes, people etc.

Normally there are plenty of deserted roads (if you look hard enough) where the worst you will do if you go off road, is mess up a rim and a few suspension parts.

Feel free to flame away. :) All I'm saying is if you are going to be dangerous, do it RESPONSIBLY. (sounds like an oxy moron) :)

P.S. I also didn't drive dangerously when my car was stock... I currently have upgraded my rims, tires, sway bars, shocks and springs.

P.P.S Steve, like others have said, experience is the best (hardest) teacher and I think you have more than learned your lesson. Glad to see you made it out OK.

P.P.P.S F-150 guy, You are VERY lucky to be alive, it looked like your truck hit that tree dead on the driver side door!

I assume you are talking about me in the last comment. Not sure where you the the F150 guy thing :p And yes, I'm VERY thankful for the continuing efforts of the rescue crew (I was covered w/a white sheet at one point. Was 5 hours before I was found....). Things like this are a real eye opener to say the least. Make sure you don't have to learn the hard way :)

VV

Originally posted by BNut
I get frustrated with a lot of the people who keep saying, "Save it for the track" or "Go to an autocross"

I live in BFE Lafayette, LA... the nearest REAL track (not drag racing) is No Problem Raceway which is about 45 minutes south of Baton Rouge. Thats a 2 hour 1 way trip for me.

The only other auto-x events I know of are in Houston TX at the Houston Police Academy track or the old Blimp site and that's a 3.5 hour 1 trip IF I speed like a mofo. :(

If municipal and community organizations would provide feasible alternatives to driving recklessly on the streets I think some people could satisify their "curiousity" about their cars in a safer envivronment. I have been to 2 auto-x events so far which were a complete blast, but that doesn't mean I won't hop in my car at 11pm when the streets are empty and take a few corners faster than I should. I'm 25 years old and I drove like a grandma until I was about 21 because I was literally scared to death of driving. Its funny because now the older I get the more dangerous I drive.

We have a HUGE (several football fields) parking lot in our city that is not even used most weekends in our city. In fact the police in our city use it to do their road course training but none of the events are open to the public. All it takes is a simple liability waiver, an ambulance, a few police officers to over see things and a well laid out course and the city can make money charging people 5-10 bucks to go tear up the parking lot in their cars.

Also its been my experience most auto-x events are about 1 once a month with SCCA and once ever 2-3 months for BMW and Porsche car clubs. (which are open to anyone who brings money)

Do I drive dangerously on the streets? YUP!

Do I endager other people's live beside my own? NOPE! (Well maybe a stray animal or 2) ;)

Do I drive dangerously on unknown streets? NOPE!

Do I drive dangersouly when its raining? (It rarely snows here in the south) HELL NO!!!

No granted I drive an a FWD car so worst case scenario for me is I start to plow... I lift off the gas, regain traction, and back to life as normal.

I realize that every time I get in my car, I might exceed my abilities and not be able to regain control and ram into a curb and f' my car up. IF you are going to drive dangerous don't do it in the mountains, don't do it near cliffs, nears trees, homes, people etc.

Normally there are plenty of deserted roads (if you look hard enough) where the worst you will do if you go off road, is mess up a rim and a few suspension parts.

Feel free to flame away. :) All I'm saying is if you are going to be dangerous, do it RESPONSIBLY. (sounds like an oxy moron) :)

P.S. I also didn't drive dangerously when my car was stock... I currently have upgraded my rims, tires, sway bars, shocks and springs.

P.P.S Steve, like others have said, experience is the best (hardest) teacher and I think you have more than learned your lesson. Glad to see you made it out OK.

P.P.P.S F-150 guy, You are VERY lucky to be alive, it looked like your truck hit that tree dead on the driver side door!

Sorry... DUH! Its says DODGE on the back of the pickup. :) I had already started typing my message so I couldn't see the picture when I thought about your accident as an after thought to my message. :)

Heh, no biggie. Actually if you could look closer it says imported for dodge. It's actually a mitsubishi. Gotta love the chryco/mitsu relationship in the diamondstar days ;)

VV

Originally posted by BNut
Sorry... DUH! Its says DODGE on the back of the pickup. :) I had already started typing my message so I couldn't see the picture when I thought about your accident as an after thought to my message. :)

I had one of those....they're not too good at handling a 85 shot...lasted me a good 2 months.

Ouch:(

Originally posted by gtguy
. . .But as my Skip Barber instructors were fond of saying, "If we knew then what we know now, there'd be a lot of really nice, fast older cars around." It is said that a driver doesn't really begin to want to learn how to drive until their first serious accident, a need for knowledge motivated by a desire to never again be out of control. . .

That is right on the mark IMO, and incidentally why I am now hooked on AWD. After totalling my MR2 Turbo at a hillclimb, I realized that understanding the limits of a car's handling is not enough. You have to know what to do when those limits are exceeded and do it instinctively, because eventually that's where you will find yourself if you attempt to push to the limit. You also have to be familiar with the roads and the condition of them. Things change when you're not looking!

Going back to my love of AWD, it's based very much on the aspect of predictable handling. Sure I like the added traction for acceleration, but more important to me is the handling balance of the car when grip goes out the window. Obviously if your paved road turns into virtual marbles of gravel when you are already at the grip limit, all you can do is try to point it properly as you head for the ditch. But barring that, I urge anybody out there with an AWD performance car to really learn how it behaves when the unexpected happens. The best way to do that is by autocrossing and losing control a time or two (not intentionally, but find the limits). Once you really understand how the car will behave when a skid starts, it can become as comfortable a feeling as skinny dipping. (Refreshing and energizing - even if it does feel a bit naughty.:D )

I agree with Gabby Johnson!
I had mine at PIR in the rain in october and spun off the track after turn 4 and it was invaluable experience. I was going 25-30 and if I had been on the street I would have hit something pretty hard, a curb or pole , parked car etc, as it was, I slid for 40 feet and came to a rest off the track. Needless to say I was black flagged and had to explain what happened to the track steward.
the conversation went somewhat like this...


Steward: what happened?
me: lost it after turn 4 because of lift-off oversteer I think...
steward: ok, be careful, (waves me back onto track)

After the incident I was aware of what I had done wrong
and I was carefull not to repeat my mistake for the remainder of the day. I had in fact 2 chances to keep it on the road and I missed both of them, the first mistake was to much lift off when I started to push, the second was when I corrected I failed to reapply throttle.
I guess my point is if you have to lose control of your car, do it sooner rather then later and do it where it is reasonably safe.
Then apply what you learned so that if you lose it in town it's more like second nature to keep it under control. It is hard to remember that the throttle is your friend when you lose control, considering you mainly would rather just safely come to a stop. It seems counterintuitive to punch it after inducing turn in, to get you back on the road/track. I have left out some stuff so don't use my descriptions as driving aids, oversteer and understeer
and using the brake and throttle to steer the car is more difficult then I have described.
Good luck everyone and I am glad you came out of the wreck OK.

BNut:

Sounds like you need to start a South Louisiana chapter of the SCCA and then start putting on some autocrosses.

Originally posted by jk147
Way too many people bought into the hype watching the commercial. Thinking that they are Colin McRae or Richard Burns.
Or we can have an accident forum..

but colin mcrae crashes all the time.. :devil:

seriously, though, an accident forum sounds like a cool addition to the club... give us a good place to ask the ever-present 'so how well does a XXXX do in a crash' question.

btw, glad you guys are ok, that looks to have been an E-ticket ride. I dont think i've ever seen a w-r-eck like that. :eek:

One thing that has always bothered me about crash stories is that you never hear from the ones that died. I'd hate to see a false sense of security built up on that issue.

I just looked here======> http://www.hwysafety.org/vehicle%5Fratings/ce/html/00005.htm

It looks like the closest thing they've tested is a Legacy. I-Club has more info on the New Age cars' crashworthiness than the stupid insurance companies (our members do the testing). They are too busy getting headlines by testing dangerous SUVs, I guess.

I wonder who will be the first to photoshop the WRX/RS/OBS footage when it comes out?:)

Originally posted by Steve-oWRX


Took the turn too fast, the back end came out a little.... Anyhow, I lost control and hit the curb with the front right tire.... My mother said that I thought the car was the batmobile. And I kind of did. stevo

Apparently this car is so safe that it is now interfering with the process of natural selection.

so much for the flared fenders...


glad to see you're ok though...i know how much car accidents can suck, and you made out well with just a broken bone...

Hey, I'm not going to hate on this kid anymore! I'm glad you and your friend are okay! Are you planning on buying another one???

By the way, can I buy your seats from you??
How much will you sell one of your good rims for?
Is any parts on the motor still functional???

Originally posted by flegg
Hey, I'm not going to hate on this kid anymore! I'm glad you and your friend are okay! Are you planning on buying another one???

By the way, can I buy your seats from you??
How much will you sell one of your good rims for?
Is any parts on the motor still functional???

IMO, whoever found my car in the junkyard, made out very well.
Someone came out of there with a turbo with 7,000 miles on it. And the seats, short shifter, 6 disc changer. My accident was on Sept. 30, so my car is long gone. Who knows, maybe no one has gutted my car yet, but I doubt it.

Yes, I plan on buying another, hopefully soon.

Originally posted by Dr. WOT


Apparently this car is so safe that it is now interfering with the process of natural selection.


Ignorant

Originally posted by AWDTurboNut


That is right on the mark IMO, and incidentally why I am now hooked on AWD. After totalling my MR2 Turbo at a hillclimb, I realized that understanding the limits of a car's handling is not enough. You have to know what to do when those limits are exceeded and do it instinctively, because eventually that's where you will find yourself if you attempt to push to the limit. You also have to be familiar with the roads and the condition of them. Things change when you're not looking!

Going back to my love of AWD, it's based very much on the aspect of predictable handling. Sure I like the added traction for acceleration, but more important to me is the handling balance of the car when grip goes out the window. Obviously if your paved road turns into virtual marbles of gravel when you are already at the grip limit, all you can do is try to point it properly as you head for the ditch. But barring that, I urge anybody out there with an AWD performance car to really learn how it behaves when the unexpected happens. The best way to do that is by autocrossing and losing control a time or two (not intentionally, but find the limits). Once you really understand how the car will behave when a skid starts, it can become as comfortable a feeling as skinny dipping. (Refreshing and energizing - even if it does feel a bit naughty.:D )

I agree if people would actually take the time to learn their cars capabilities they would be in shock at what it's actually capable of.I can't tell you how many times I've seen people turn white as a ghost in my (520+rwhp) 7 in the rain, they can't figure how I get it to stick in the rain, tires help but really knowing your car helps even more, and it get's even better in the snow with awd. TAKE THE TIME LEARN YOUR CAR!!! it will save your life.;)

Yea.. everything's basically been said already.. so I'll just say:

Go watch the WRX commerical.. and say "Wow that's pretty neat"

Then go find that WRC video on the net.. the one that was mixed with the Linkin Park music.. and say "Wow so that's what happens IRL."

I know it's not funny.. but the part in that video where the car rolls over into the ditch.. and then another one follows right after.. I laugh every time I see that part.. :lol: The part where the WRX eats it is an eye opener though.. :eek:

Originally posted by Dr. WOT
Apparently this car is so safe that it is now interfering with the process of natural selection.
This is just about the most insensitive remark I have read in a long time. Sure, the guy messed up, but are you trying to say that just because he made a mistake, he deserves to die? I'm glad to see that he got away with relatively minor injuries, and gets a chance to make better decisions in the future. I'm confident that he will. The people who think that they're perfect sometimes scare me the most.

I agree with TheWRX, I think that you do make better decisions the second time around. Yes, people sometimes deserve a slap on the wrist for a mistake that they made, although they learn from their mistakes. And that's why we have mistakes, so that we can learn from them. I'll be quick to admit, I'm not perfect. In fact I'm far from it, but I also have made mistakes in my life. Although you know what? I learned from them, and I learned from them exactly what NOT to do next time. Unless sombody has killed someone, I don't see it right to say that they deserved to die. Saying that makes you look like you are saying that you are superior, and that you have not made any mistakes. Correct me if I'm wrong... Sorry for the long post, I'm done now... :)

I realize what I said is quite harsh. Obviously many of you know Steve-oWRX and I wonder if that is effecting your reactions to what happened.

All I can say about my comment is that it was my honest reaction to what I read from Steve-oWRX's own words. Insensitive? Yes, very. Ignorant? Not particularly.

You need to use you head for something other than releasing adrenaline. Those who don't often suffer the consequences. Steve is very lucky this is a safe car, because based on the damage, that was a violent crash, and a lesser car might not have saved him.

So there you have it, a slightly more sensitve rephrasing of a comment many of you have made to people who you didn't happen to know.

For a little background, I didn't feel sorry for the driver of the Integra Type R in Long Island who died when he crashed into the median. I felt sorry for the passengers. And I didn't feel sorry for the guy in the Lamborghini who died when he raced the Corvette. I felt sorry for they guy in the Volvo that he killed.

Steve, I apoligise if I what I said upset you. Believe me that I'm glad you're okay -- I don't like it when people get hurt. Just try to be more responsible, like saving it for the track.

A reply to the Dr.

1. I wasn't racing anybody, like one of the situations you posted earlier.

2. I wasn't going over 100mph on the freeway, again like one of the situations you posted ealier.

3. I wasn't drinking and driving, probably like one of the situations above.

4. Accidents happen to the best of us. But when you start talking about Darwin's great theories and use them in an insulting way, you're just causing trouble. So, if and when you ever come on here, telling a story of how you got in an accident, don't look for any sympathy from me.

5. If you meant what you said in your last post, all you had to say in the first place was "sorry about your car, glad you're ok"

Stevo

I don't know who Steve is I don't care; no offense to Steve. It is still a ignorant comment.It is no different than saying we should have selective breeding. Stupid people shouldn't have babies.I've got people over here that die on sportbikes all summer doing stupid ****, do I know them? No. Do I care? No, but I'm not going to walk around saying they got what they deserved,had Steve killed someone I would be right next to you saying it should of been him, at least he learned something, if he goes out and kills himself with his new car then I might say thats what happens to idiots that don't take time to learn what their limits are, and at that point I'm sure that there would be people ripping into me.

Steve-oWRX, your lucky you only got a sore nose from the airbag.
Women who drive sitting right up close to the steering wheel are having their STERNUM broken (probably bruised tit's too) from the airbag smacking them in the chest.

So if your wife or your mates wife sits too close the wheel just prompt her as to the outcome if that airbag goes "poof" in her face. :eek:

Originally posted by gabedude
The WRX is a goddamn tank!

hahaha :lol: :lol: :lol:

Listen to Glenn folks.
Lets also remember that the stickier they are, the harder it is to regain control. Several drivers who have crossed the formula road, CART to F1 and the reverse have mentioned that where you could correct a CART car 2 or 3 times through a corner the stickier F1 car you might get one chance.
Remember when the NSX first hit our shores, over half the initial 50 cars were involved in serious wrecks while being driven by over confident motoring correspondents, "look at this, it sticks to the road like baby poop to a blanket......ooops! splat! "hello Mr Accura about your car................"
So lets learn to "drift em" off road and on gravel, snow or grass where you can achieve it at lower speeds.

I drove my first WRX on Tuesday, still can't remove the grin....my heart says yes my head says maybe, the wife says......ah she rarely drives my car anyway.

Andy.

I`ve been in accidents. Man now a days its hard to avoid them. So many road users we are resorted to take more risks to get away from traffic. I drove down a dirt rd at 8.30 in the morning to find 2 Picksups heading towards me on a dirt rd. Wasn`t doing more than 30 (by the way there was snow on the rd) I slowed up but had to ditch cos one of them thought it be fun to hold the center of the rd and see if I can avoid him.

Since passing my test i have had the following accidents:

2 days after my test I revered into a lamp post sending it across a parking lot totaling 8-10 cars (Was deemed an structuly unsafe and the parking lot owner faced the bill for the other cars I had to repair my rear tailgate, valance and bumper my self)

3 months later bought a cavalier 1 week after owning it someone bumped me doing 10Mph,(female)

2 week later in the same car someone rear ended me (female) total loss

5 weeks later I was following someone who jacked on his brakes I totaled his car and $35 dollars dammage to mine

2 years later some one ran into the back of me totaling his car as he pasted (abused) his kids (bumper and tow bar damage)

18 months later new car, Some kids moved a traffic cone from an island an I hit it (no street lights present, 3,000 damage Deemed and paid for by the towns insurance,

6 months and a new car (my dream car), Some uninsuered prick drove head on into me on my side of the rd. 12 months before his girlfreinds insurance paid up.

18 months later I lost control of my wifes old neon on a snowy evenning regaind control but could not avoid going down the median, damage right front tyre damage to beading 190 for two new tyres

12 months later lost control on a gravel rd, very sharp right. Gained control after leaving rd onto grassy area

6 months later left rd in snow blizzard, Was pulled out which resulted in 3k damage.

14 month later ditched car in atempt to avoid oncomming traffic.

One might think I`m a menace but in 8 years I have driven more than 1,100,000 miles on the rds of the UK and the USA.

100,000,000 miles in eight years hmmmm

100,000,000/8= 12,500,000 per year

12,500,000/365= 34,247 miles/day

34,247/24= 1427miles/hr

Nice car wheels you must have one of those piss tubes like the astronauts ;)

OUCH!!! Glad to see you and your pass made it out o.k. It hurted me just to see those pics. What are u planning on replacing your WRX with?


Ronin
:devil:

Originally posted by avonrex
100,000,000 miles in eight years hmmmm

100,000,000/8= 12,500,000 per year

12,500,000/365= 34,247 miles/day

34,247/24= 1427miles/hr

Nice car wheels you must have one of those piss tubes like the astronauts ;) your calculations are incorrect, you haven't accounted for leap years ;) :lol:

i hid mean 1,000,000 but its more like 1.1m now!

Originally posted by Wheels

14 month later ditched car in atempt to avoid oncomming traffic.
.

That happens to me all the time:lol: :lol: :D

--What does that mean??? Im still trying to picture that situation in my head...and I can't stop laughing:D

Originally posted by Ronin2121
OUCH!!! Glad to see you and your pass made it out o.k. It hurted me just to see those pics. What are u planning on replacing your WRX with?


Ronin
:devil:

im driving a 98 sebring convert. right now. I'll have my degree in May...so around that time I will be buying a new car. Another 2002 WRX, maybe a 2003. It's all up in the air now, but im planning on buying a car for around 30k. Stick shift of course.

Originally posted by Steve-oWRX


That happens to me all the time:lol: :lol: :D

--What does that mean??? Im still trying to picture that situation in my head...and I can't stop laughing:D

Imagine a road 8-10 feet wide, ditch on either side with a good 5 feet of snow in the ditch, a truck oncoming with a 5-6ft plough in the CENTER of the rd leaving me with what looks like 4 feet. somewhat a squeze but you think you can make it then all of a sudden the cars weight packs the loose snow in the ditch and your cars now slidding along the edge of the road and your collecting branches as your sliding with no wheels on the ground. Final the snow packs good against a tree root and spins my car sideways where it rests with all four wheels off the ground and I'm 90 degrees to the rd.

You have the making of a very pissed off suby driver. Especially when the guy returns 2 hrs later laughing. Cos he thinks its funny how he ran you off the rd.

Originally posted by BNut
I get frustrated with a lot of the people who keep saying, "Save it for the track" or "Go to an autocross"

I live in BFE Lafayette, LA... the nearest REAL track (not drag racing) is No Problem Raceway which is about 45 minutes south of Baton Rouge. Thats a 2 hour 1 way trip for me.

For me to compete in autoX yesterday, I traveled a round trip of 160 miles, an hour drive each way. I had to change my tires once I got there, and again before I went home. what's your point?

I think that Steve-O needs to imagine visiting his friend for the next 40 years, helping him to bath, eat, get dressed, and move from his wheelchair to the bed. I think that STeve-O might find this a character-building experience. Or maybe Steve-O would find it satisfying knowing that he took the life of a good friend, all for nothing. I'm sure it would be great fun spending time with his victim's family, seeing the grief he has caused. Heck, it's all SO worth it for the joy of "drifting."

I hate to be harsh, but, next time, Steve-O, go ALONE, check the entire area for cars, kids, and pets, get up a lot more speed, and pitch it even harder. Leave the world a safer place.

Go ahead, flame away. You know I'm right.

Rich,

I spent over a week in the hospital. I spent two and a half months not able to leave my house after my accident. I couldn't go up or down stairs for almost a month. I was taking huge amounts of vicodin for the pain. I had to withdrawl from classes the last semester before getting my degree, which cost me $8,500 for that semester. I lost my WRX, and watched my insurance premium skyrocket. I have to go to physical therapy 3 times a week, and have to go to hospital once a month for xrays. I can walk right now, but I can't run, and can't jump on my right foot. I think I've been through enough.

I never wanted this to happen, I took that turn too fast, and the car ended up "drifting" around the turn. Anyway, this accident happened on Sept. 30th 2001, so I've had my time to think about it, and wish it never happened.

Originally posted by Richard Gear
I hate to be harsh, but, next time, Steve-O, go ALONE, check the entire area for cars, kids, and pets, get up a lot more speed, and pitch it even harder. Leave the world a safer place.

Go ahead, flame away. You know I'm right. Maybe that would make sense if the passenger had no control over what was going on. I can't speak for Steve obviously, but my passengers let me know BEFORE I drive fast, that it is okay, and if they ever feel uncomfortable, I'll do whatever is needed to remedy it. Would I still feel horrible if something bad happened? Of course! But inversely, that doesn't mean if I'm not at fault that I won't shed a tear. But I wouldn't take you too seriously anyway, after all you aren't perfect either: http://www.i-club.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=721670#post721670 Go ahead, flame on. You know I'm right.

Originally posted by Richard Gear
I think that Steve-O needs to...blah, blah, {self-righteous blather removed here}, blah...

I hate to be harsh...Really? You hate it? But don't you enjoy being self-righteous... doesn't it make you feel superior?
Originally posted by Richard Gear
...but, next time, Steve-O, go ALONE... Leave the world a safer place.

Go ahead, flame away. You know I'm right. Well no, "right" is not the word that comes to most folks mind when they see your post. Everyone can see that you have some issues which you need to work out... But of course we don't want you drive off of some darned road to work out your issues... We're pulling for ya to become human again!

Hey Steve-O, it's really great to know that you're okay. In addition to that it's great to know that you realized that you ****ed up, and you're quick to confess it. That alone shows what kind of person you are. Don't even bother with the folks with the negative words anymore, they can "do no wrong". :rolleyes:

I was doing some drifting this weekend, some turns were at about 80 mph. However I was on a road course having my fun, and I lost control of the car in a big way when my front drivers side tire touched down off the course at about 70-80 through a high speed turn. It snapped the rear end around and I slid all the way down a short straight away sideways.

After the experience of driving on a road course, going 10/10's in my car I honestly have no desire to ever push my limits on the street ever again. It made me realize that there's no way I could use the WRX to it's highest potential on the street without killing myself.

I know that sometimes it can be difficult and expensive to take part in autocrossing and track days, but IMO the hassle and expense is totally worth it. I'm not one of those "take it to the track" preaching guys, but I strongly recommend it because it's so damn fun.

Fortunately I've never had any serious mishaps to make myself want to become a better driver, that already seems to be in my blood. My only accidents happened on my old sport bike, neither of which I had any control over, damn cages.

Anyway, good luck in buying another WRX. I think you easily adult enough to handle the car, especially now. BTW, I'm only 21