Hello all,
I drive an S2000: http://www.s2ki.com/forums/photo.php?s=&action=view&photoid=2308&size=small
I'm not here to flame though. I drove a Rustang Cobra, an F-150 Lightning, a Camero SS, a Plymoth Prowler, a '99 Viper, and a WRX today. (for some reason dealers will let you drive almost anything when you pull up in an S2K, I dunno why.) I will post everything here with the exeption of the Viper, it really isn't fair to compare a Viper. I must say that I am whole heartedly impressed with the WRX. While I am sorry to say that of all the cars I drove with the exception of the Prowler are faster, I would not hesitate to by a WRX first. And I must say, for all those that have said otherwise an S2000 is faster than a STOCK ( i said stock) WRX. I am hard core Honda and have always thought that if I were to buy another car in addition to my S2K it would be an RSX. Not anymore, Subaru has my money now. While IMO the RSX has a nicer interior, the WRX simply outclasses it in every performance equasion. And I can't even compare it to anything else I drove. These domestic boys need to get a clue. I wanted to compare the WRX to the Domestics but there really isn't any comparison other than straight line speed. I not gonna get long winded here so i am just gonna end by saying Kudos on an excellent automobile. Happy motoring to you all and to anybody in the Hampton Roads area of Virginia with a tweaked WRX, I wanna go for a ride. PM me
L8er guys

hey VTECnology,

I've seen you around the Honda boards. I myself am considering a WRX for the future, but not for at least another 1-2 years or so (got to break even on my Accord V6 first ;)) I don't need a car as big as my Accord V6, but I still want 4 doors and it's gotta be fast so the WRX looks like a good choice for me in the future.

BTW, if there's anybody with a WRX in the MD/VA/DC area I'd like to go for a ride too so PM me as well :lol: :p

Steve

Originally posted by SteVTEC
hey VTECnology,

I've seen you around the Honda boards. I myself am considering a WRX for the future, but not for at least another 1-2 years or so (got to break even on my Accord V6 first ;)) I don't need a car as big as my Accord V6, but I still want 4 doors and it's gotta be fast so the WRX looks like a good choice for me in the future.

BTW, if there's anybody with a WRX in the MD/VA/DC area I'd like to go for a ride too so PM me as well :lol: :p

Steve

haha....i work for honda and before i bought my rs i was looking at 2001 EX V-6 accord and was trying to figure out what i wanted...well i am glad i didn't go with the accord cause the more i drive em the more i don't like them....the car just wouldn't have been me....doesn't handle well enough for my liking...on the other hand i would buy and S2000 in a second but not at the adjusted market value of just under 37k(redicilous markup). I love the S2000 it's so fun to drive and YES it is faster then a stock WRX but as far as practicality goes i would buy a WRX LONG before and S2000. THe S2000 to me is a weekend driver and nothing but. Well that or a road race/solo II car. It falls short on the ammentities(spelling??), like the 2 speaker factory stereo....which now has 2 tweeters for the MY02...the plexi-glass rear window....now glass for MY02....and the NOW hideous color matched intereior(GAG ME PLEASE!!) Well anyways i am glad you were impressed with the WRX. ANd yes the RSX is very weak on the performance side of life...and for that matter the new civic Si will be just as doggy. But then again greddy already has a turbo kit for the RSX-S./

Jeremy....The HondaTech

my sis got a S2k......after i drove it... i didn't want to buy it anyone because i think the car is very small and i rather have a bit more room...
plus i think the S2K was a bit overpriced...
if i would of pay somewhere from 35k-40k...
i think i would of have bought a 330ci...
after my choice of: WRX, IS300, 325ci or 330ci, S2K, .....i end up buyin a WRX.....
but my final choice was a IS300 and a WRX....
after a long decidion.....because is a AWD so i can take it to snowboarding...and that give it a plus.
end up buyin a WRx....
which i'm happy with it :D

I know what you mean about the S2000 not being very practical. I am in the market for a CRX if I can find one for a good price for a daily driver. Also the price. I am in the military so price is quite a factor for me. I got an unbelievable deal on mine though. I traded my CL-S for it even up. Also, I just got done talking with HandA. they have great deals on Honda and Acura parts, and they told me Honda will introducing a retrofit kit to put a glass window in place of the Vinyl Plastic(I wish it was plexiglass) window. I still am a big fan of the RSX-S I was just really impressed with how the WRX drove. I am still a Honda Guy, but who says I can't be a Honda AND WRX guy? Also, I agree with everything else you say too. The first thing I did was upgrade my speakers and add an amp. That new all red interior is just god awful. I don't mind the blue or black one though. I don't think the RSX is too bad in the performance aspect, it just seems so distant and quiet compared to the old Integra that it feels slower than it is. Anyway, once again, Kudos Subaru on a fantastic car.

Originally posted by VTECnology
Honda will introducing a retrofit kit to put a glass window in place of the Vinyl Plastic(I wish it was plexiglass) window. fantastic car.

yeah tell me about it...do you know how F*%*ing hard it is to get a wrinkle out of that damn window?? oh yeah i just put a hard top on a blue one last night....looks DAMN good...BIG rear window.

Jeremy

before i bought a WRX.....all i drive was honda..
at my house.....we almost had all the honda they were made.....2 civic, accord, prelude, delslow, passport, S2k.......

before i got the WRX.....i had a 95 Turbo Integra w/a JDM ITR front end....which i put a lot work in it...and is a 12 sec car.....
then i bought a 93 civic si hb....and did a DOHC motor swap... for daily driven.....

now...i sold both of them.....and got a old school 90s accord just to drive to school....and have a WRX.....

those early 90's accords are the best to have...nothing ever brakes and you can drive them forever.

jeremy

just want to put this back to the top so I can say hi to tdman77. ya guess who this is. sorry I didn't send you the directions to the races, they got cancelled for weather. L8er man.

Im sorry to say that although the s2000 handels worlds better than a wrx, its not faster. I belive that if you looked on www.altimas.net and freshalloy.com you will find a video of a new altima hanging right there with the s2000. I have seen numbers of 14.4 to 14.8 for the new altima, so i dont think your s2k is all that. Although i bet its a blast to drive and all. I have seen mag numbers of 14 flat for the stk but it seems most real world drivers cant duplicate those numbers. But like i said im sure its a blast to drive and the handeling is way better than a stock wrx, which IMHO completely sux. I have seen 4 recent tests where the stock wrx couldnt even obtain a .8 on the skidpad which is pathetic for a low 14 second car. I know it has crap tires and all, but the suspension is definately floaty. I know most people here aer going to defend the wrx by saying its a rally bread car, but i bet that 95% of wrx owners will never take their cars offroading.

I am selling my 5th gen prelude for a wrx. One test drive and I was sold.

how about this... i'll trade you my WRX wagon for you s2k?
or anyone else?
ha:lol:

no thanks on the wagon bro. I had a practical car and I vow to never do it again until I'm married. As far as speed goes, I'm not talking about seeing a video on the web or hearing from a friend of a friend or a magazine article. If you look on S2ki.com you'll see many people posting 1/4 mile times as high 14's to even a few low 15's. I personally don't know how you could get such a bad time out of this car. I'm just speaking from my experiance and I have posted my best of 13.87 at 103mph. That is fast even by S2k standards but I consistantly run about 14.0 - 14.1. also that is with a much slower 60' time than a WRX so I'm playing catch up the whole race. I'm not trying to flame at all. I swear. My car should be faster since people are paying almost 10g more than a WRX. I was really suprised with how quick the WRX was but stock for stock an S2000 is faster. I will give you that a WRX might at least hang in a 0-60 race as an S2000 is ungodly hard to launch. And, I will by no means talk of whipping a modded WRX. I came here to say Kudos on the car not to start a flame about my times and whos faster so I'm really hesitant to post this, but oh well. These are the facts that I know from experience. Once again congradulations on an excellent car guys. Happy motoring to all, and to all a good night:)

Originally posted by VTECnology
no thanks on the wagon bro. I had a practical car and I vow to never do it again until I'm married. As far as speed goes, I'm not talking about seeing a video on the web or hearing from a friend of a friend or a magazine article. If you look on S2ki.com you'll see many people posting 1/4 mile times as high 14's to even a few low 15's. I personally don't know how you could get such a bad time out of this car. I'm just speaking from my experiance and I have posted my best of 13.87 at 103mph. That is fast even by S2k standards but I consistantly run about 14.0 - 14.1. also that is with a much slower 60' time than a WRX so I'm playing catch up the whole race. I'm not trying to flame at all. I swear. My car should be faster since people are paying almost 10g more than a WRX. I was really suprised with how quick the WRX was but stock for stock an S2000 is faster. I will give you that a WRX might at least hang in a 0-60 race as an S2000 is ungodly hard to launch. And, I will by no means talk of whipping a modded WRX. I came here to say Kudos on the car not to start a flame about my times and whos faster so I'm really hesitant to post this, but oh well. These are the facts that I know from experience. Once again congradulations on an excellent car guys. Happy motoring to all, and to all a good night:)

yeah but it seems like more and more lately a compliment thread from another driver turns into nothing BUT a flame war. I would just take the compliment but these guys always have to have hte bigger better car. and the S2000 is a low 14 sec, high 13 sec car...but YOU HAVE TO KNOW HOW TO DRIVE...the car has no grunt so if you bog it you are done for....7k clutch drop on 20 psi will net you a pretty decent run ;) (did i say that outloud??)....well anyhow glad you were impressed with a WRX but remember it was build for blistering acceleration...and the WRX DOES handle amazingly with removal of hte WONDERFUL RE-92's.

jeremy

I am still a Honda Guy, but who says I can't be a Honda AND WRX guy?

This is the kind of comment that could get you in trouble with certain people on this board. Now if you had said:

I am still a Honda Guy, but who says I can't be a Honda AND Subaru guy?

Than they would be alot happier.

Just trying to point out, I'm sure you don't like Honda for their Minivans, as I'm sure alot of us don't like Subaru for their Outback. We like manufactureres for the cool products they make, not the doudy ones.

Thing is I don't really know about any of Subarus products except the WRX. If I was in the market for a minivan I think it would be a Honda. It was just the WRX that impressed the hell out of me, not Subaru as a whole

I used to be a Honda guy and i thought all the cars that i would ever get or be able to afford would be Honda/Acura. But after driving Hondas for my whole driving career, the became BORING cars to me IMO, with the exception of the NSX and S2k (never driven those). Im pretty sure LATER on in my life ill go back to Honda/Acura...like a TL type S or that type of car. They do make good cars but they just dont really appeal to me anymore.

White4drWRX - haha...I was in the same situation as you. I was trying to decide between a IS300 and a WRX. I also chose the WRX over the IS because i can go snowboarding for it and some other reasons. I definatly dont regret getting a WRX over an IS300 and I definatly wouldnt trade in my wagon for a S2K. The only car I would trade it in for is a S4 Avant or a RS4. At my house we pretty much had all the styles of Accords ever made. I also have a early 90's Accord (93) which i drive now and then. Yea...those early accords are pretty good, they can take alot of abuse. ;)

Originally posted by VTECnology
Thing is I don't really know about any of Subarus products except the WRX. If I was in the market for a minivan I think it would be a Honda. It was just the WRX that impressed the hell out of me, not Subaru as a whole

exactly. That is the case with most of the auto world.
I too am a honda guy. I did swap in my '93 teg, then fuly built it from the ground up. Then I got a '97 GSR and did internals and nitrous (not to mention do a honda rebuild every month or so). I considered the S2000 for my car, but went with the WRX (I have a family). The S2000 is VERY nice it's very stiff chassis wise. It feels like a hardtop. Also, it didn't 'feel' significantly more powerfull than my 14 second GSR (since you can only feel torque), but the awesome gearing a reach (revs) made it fast. I know it was faster, just going by butt dyno.

welcome.

-C

I absolutely love the S2000 however I must agree with White4drWRX the car is defiantly a death trap.

Originally posted by 128d
I absolutely love the S2000 however I must agree with White4drWRX the car is defiantly a death trap.

you guys have no idea how safe that car really is...there have been MANY a wrecked S2000 with the drivers walking away with scracthes....but in any case...the fact is that the WRX has drawn people who just know about the WRX and NOT the history of subaru..i learned of what subaru's could do back in late '99 in the wyoming mud....that was when i started following rally racing etc...the old skool guys are beyond enthusiasts...we are often to refferred to as more of a cult which is true... the WRX draws mainly people who want the newest fastest sports car out there. Sorry to make a generalization and i know there are alot of hardcore WRC enthusiasts out there that own WRX's but i'd be willing to venture that most of them owned multiple subaru's before that.

Jeremy

Like for example, when Adam Bloom wrecked his S2000 and no injuries.

- Trent

Originally posted by dsmawd
Like for example, when Adam Bloom wrecked his S2000 and no injuries.

- Trent

one the accidents i have seen yes...the other was a lightpole headon @ 60...driver stumbled(was 2 times the legal limit) from the vehicle with just irritating from the airbags.

jeremy

As far as the WRX vs. the S2000 acceleration times stock for stock they're very similar. They've both had mag times of 0-60 as low as 5.4 (WRX) to 5.5 seconds (S2000). The 1/4 is covered a little faster by the rear wheel drive S2000 at 14.0 to the WRX of 14.3 seconds.

Think about that, those times are from professional drivers. So you can't say that the WRX could *maybe* keep up with the S2000 0-60:rolleyes: The fact is that given equal drivers the WRX is faster 0-60mph. That's just the way it is. The 1/4 goes to the S2000. Again, that's just the way it is.

Now from a roll the WRX will seem slower yeah. You've got to know how to launch the WRX being AWD just like you've got to know how to launch the VTEC torqueless wonder. When I first got my WRX I thought it wasn't all that fast. And, then one day I decided to learn how to lauch the car from a stop and thought differently about it.

Now for just a few bucks, like say $30-$80 you can get the WRX down to 13.5 sec 1/4 mile with an MBC which quite a few people have done so far. And most importantly, the MBC really helps with first and second gear so I'd bet that the 0-60 is probably down to 5.0 seconds flat.

Funny thing is, you just said almost the exact same thing I did. The WRX can AT LEAST keep up 0-60. The S2000 is faster in the 1/4 but not by much. Therefore, at the beginning of the 1/4 the higher torque, all wheel drive WRX is quicker, but the higher hp, higher revving, less drive line loss S2000 is faster and will catch up and pass the WRX by the end, again not by much. I myself have run a few WRXs. This is the way it has panned out almost every time. You can prove this bu looking at trap speeds from both cars. Find me a WRX that runs a 14 flat with trap speeds over 102 mph and I will show you a driver that has no driving skills and a butt load of hp. Also, S2000 are hitting top speeds over 160 mph. No joke. That I believe would be faster. I am not however considering modified cars, in which case the S2000 does not stand a chance (in N/A form anyway).

IMO people put far too much of an emphasis on magazine and ET numbers. Who cares -- sport is one thing, and that's all good if you like to drag race, but we are not talking about purpose built race cars. Every car on this board, and the S2K board for that matter, is a daily driver and/or weekend car 1st and formost, then it might make it to the track 2nd, if drag racing is even THAT much of a priority.

What really counts is how a car feels in your hands, and how it feels to your ass. In that regard, Hondas are very fast; since they don't have any low end grunt, yet still hang with cars that do, obviously once things get going, they are screamers. And if you know how to drive it, you can keep it screaming at all times. In other words, they make up for lost time in a BIG way.

VTECnology: a WRX would be a great compliment to your S2k. I can only afford 1 car, and if you can only pick one, the WRX is the may to go. If I was pulling down major bucks, these are the two cars I'd have. http://i-club.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif

Amen bro. I only came here to say how impressed I am with the WRX. I too can only afford the one car. If I could afford two, I think the WRX just beat out the RSX as my pick for a second car.