Price is right on GT-R supercar (Europe)

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Nissan's new GT-R won't cost as much as expected

Sources say the base version of the Porsche 911 rival will be the equivalent of £29,000 in Japan.

The lower price is down to the brakes and transmission. While the entry-level GT-R will employ a six-speed manual gearbox and four-piston Brembo brakes, the £35,000 V-spec version will get six-piston Brembos and a dual-clutch, two-pedal, seven-speed DSG box. A GT-R Evolution with carbon fibre parts to reduce weight will be nearer £52,000.

If pricepoint carries over to the US, that's only $38,650.

EDIT: ^ This is wrong. For some reason I saw "£" and thought "Euro." The actual POUND to US Dollar conversion = $56,964.70

Next car verified.

39K sounds too good to be true. But If so this is my next car.

wow, that does sound way too good to be true.

If pricepoint carries over to the US, that's only $38,650.I don't think it's safe to compare prices based on exchange rates. That said, even if we are off by 30%, it's still way better than I had hoped.

39K sounds too good to be true. But If so this is my next car.
+1 If the 'base' car comes in at 39-40K, it's my next car as well! :banana: :banana: :banana:

I can live with a 6spd and 4 piston Brembos! :p

Too good to be true, I'll wait on offical specs. This is a 2 seater right?

I foresee it being firmly in the $40K range, unless our version is pretty watered down.

I just did the currency conversion (British Pounds to JP yen as according to the article, then yen to US Dollars). The number I have is still about $57,000 US. Cheaper than expected, but still far out of my price range. And Japanese cars brought to the US are usually a little more expensive (JDM STI is $28.8K US for instance).

Don't know where the $38,650 figure came from, but don't everyone get your hopes up yet.

I just did the currency conversion (British Pounds to JP yen as according to the article, then yen to US Dollars). The number I have is still about $57,000 US. Cheaper than expected, but still far out of my price range. And Japanese cars brought to the US are usually a little more expensive (JDM STI is $28.8K US for instance).

Don't know where the $38,650 figure came from, but don't everyone get your hopes up yet.Uh... yeah. I'm an idiot. I made that post before my coffee fully kicked in, and I converted EUROS to Dollars. Sorry, guys :(

it's going to have to cost more than the new G37 coupe correct? And the G37 coupe will cost more than the G35 sedan which hit's $40k pretty quickly. I'd be surprised if it's under $50k, not that it really matters.

um guys are you off quite a bit.

British pounds 29,999 = $58,900 USD
and the loaded price of 52,000GBP = $102,000

Reread the post it's sayin that in japan the car will cost 29,999 Great British Pounds, wich doesn't make any sense, so if you convert the pound to Yen you'll get 6.9M Yen

This price makes a whole lot more sense than the "starting at $70K" BS. high $50K is a lot of money, but for the price of a buttnaked Cayman S, you will get the performance slimilar to the Turbo. Good deal. :)

um guys are you off quite a bit.

British pounds 29,999 = $58,900 USD
and the loaded price of 52,000GBP = $102,000

Reread the post it's sayin that in japan the car will cost 29,999 Great British Pounds, wich doesn't make any sense, so if you convert the pound to Yen you'll get 6.9M Yen

Actually, I read it correctly the first time. In Japan the car will cost the equivelent of 29,000 GBP. That number being approximately 6,730,146 Yen. Converted to US Dollars that's $57,112. And that's how I converted it. And like I said, imported cars are usually slightly more expensive than a straight currency conversion due to alterations for crash standards, as well as assorted taxes and tariffs. I'm guessing a US base price of around $60-62K.

This will be a funny thread once we see the real price.

I'm not sure just how many times people will try to take Japanese and European prices and convert them to US prices but apparently it's more than a gagillion. :lol:

-Mike.

I'll buy used!

um guys are you off quite a bit.

British pounds 29,999 = $58,900 USD
and the loaded price of 52,000GBP = $102,000

Reread the post it's sayin that in japan the car will cost 29,999 Great British Pounds, wich doesn't make any sense, so if you convert the pound to Yen you'll get 6.9M Yen
That's not how it works. You can't just convert pounds to dollars and get the equivalent US price. There are several economical factors to consider in addition to the fact that UK prices include VAT, which generally bumps the price of a car up 10% already. £29,999 is about £3500 more than an STi.

Taking into consideration what I've seen in price conversion from UK to US over the past several years I'm guessing the GT-R will begin around $40,000. Fully loaded could cost in the area of $55,000 to $60,000.

-Matt

That's not how it works. You can't just convert pounds to dollars and get the equivalent US price. There are several economical factors to consider in addition to the fact that UK prices include VAT, which generally bumps the price of a car up 10% already. £29,999 is about £3500 more than an STi.

Taking into consideration what I've seen in price conversion from UK to US over the past several years I'm guessing the GT-R will begin around $40,000. Fully loaded could cost in the area of $55,000 to $60,000.

-Matt

No, you see they are actually talking about JDM price, it's just that the unit that hey are talking about it is in british pounds. While you are absolutely right about cars in the UK being significantly more expensive than they are in the US, Japanese cars usually cost slightly more in the US then they do in Japan. So if it is high $50K in Japan, I think that's the lowest we can hope for.

still a unicorn until i see final numbers

To much math......must close thread.......

For comparison, a BMW 325 coupe in Britain has a MSRP of about 28,000 pounds. They don't sell that model here in the US, but it's the entry-level 3 series coupe (which is about $35,000 here).

Not that many people would cross-shop these cars, but I really think that Nissan is throwing out a low-end model to be able to compete with the next-gen Detroit muscle cars (specifically the Camaro) that will be hitting the streets about the time that this GT-R does. I realize that both will be aimed at different markets, but you just know the top of the line Camaro will probably be near $40k and have the power to accelerate with much more expensive cars - including this GT-R Spec V (hopefully it can handle at least close to them too).

One of the things that killed off the last Japanese sportscar go-around was that the cars were quick, but still relatively "slow" compared to much cheaper cars from Detroit (even if the Domestic models were put together like crap). Having a lower-end model, helps offset the sticker-shock for the top of the line model.

That's not how it works. You can't just convert pounds to dollars and get the equivalent US price. There are several economical factors to consider in addition to the fact that UK prices include VAT, which generally bumps the price of a car up 10% already. £29,999 is about £3500 more than an STi.

Taking into consideration what I've seen in price conversion from UK to US over the past several years I'm guessing the GT-R will begin around $40,000. Fully loaded could cost in the area of $55,000 to $60,000.

-Matt

Yup as the UK WRX Wagon cost £22,585. Our wagon is ~$25,000.

how much is a 350z in UK?? maybe it's a better gauge pricewise.

The 350z or 370z is a Camaro competitor not the GT-R. The GT-R is a vette competitor.

The 350z or 370z is a Camaro competitor not the GT-R. The GT-R is a vette competitor.

:rolleyes: Umm.. he means that it's a car that we could use to draw a reasonable comparison for prices across the pond with. :rolleyes:

:rolleyes: Umm.. he means that it's a car that we could use to draw a reasonable comparison for prices across the pond with. :rolleyes:

^ bingo!

arrrggg... i need to work on my engrish. :lol:

No, you see they are actually talking about JDM price, it's just that the unit that hey are talking about it is in british pounds. While you are absolutely right about cars in the UK being significantly more expensive than they are in the US, Japanese cars usually cost slightly more in the US then they do in Japan. So if it is high $50K in Japan, I think that's the lowest we can hope for.
Gotcha. Didn't see where it was converted from Yen to Pounds initially.

i wont care much for the 7 speed
i wont care the 6 pistion (i can upgrade to endless 12 pistion)
6 speed manual is the real deal LOL

if 38 is the price i'll say forget evo 10 GT-R will be my choice

If it has the power and the goods that they say it has, this thing should have NO problem selling in 40-65K range. And like many others said, if its near the 40 range (base model), count me in and say goodbye to the Evo X.

Detroit can always produce cars that go fairly quick in a straight line - that market segment is always there. The buyers who want more than that know whats up.

If it has the power and the goods that they say it has, this thing should have NO problem selling in 40-65K range. And like many others said, if its near the 40 range (base model), count me in and say goodbye to the Evo X.

Detroit can always produce cars that go fairly quick in a straight line - that market segment is always there. The buyers who want more than that know whats up.

John, you can count me in on that one too. Fitting conisidering our history with car purchases! :lol:

John, you can count me in on that one too. Fitting conisidering our history with car purchases! :lol:

truth!! :lol: :devil: :disco:

That's not how it works. You can't just convert pounds to dollars and get the equivalent US price. There are several economical factors to consider in addition to the fact that UK prices include VAT, which generally bumps the price of a car up 10% already. £29,999 is about £3500 more than an STi.

Taking into consideration what I've seen in price conversion from UK to US over the past several years I'm guessing the GT-R will begin around $40,000. Fully loaded could cost in the area of $55,000 to $60,000.

-Matt

Ding ding ding! Most accurate UK price conversion to US price (most people don't understand how much the Brits have to pay up the butt in taxes). This car will be a vette killer (aside from the Z06 and the supercharged prototypes, which will have prices above 70k).

Ding ding ding! Most accurate UK price conversion to US price (most people don't understand how much the Brits have to pay up the butt in taxes). This car will be a vette killer (aside from the Z06 and the supercharged prototypes, which will have prices above 70k).

I don't know about 'vette killer, but it will give it a good run. The C6 coupe weighs about 3100lbs. The 350z coupe weighs about 150lbs more... awd and turbo parts don't come weight free. So I expect the GT-R to be atleast 15% heavier than the vette when all is said and done. So it will have to produce at least 15% more power, meaning it will have to make 450hp, which its supposed to.

So 'vette killer? I don't know... a good magazine article pitting them against each other, definitely.

Look how they priced it in England.... base level Porsche 911. Assume something similar here. High 60's, Low 70's. Its not going to be cheap, but I think we all hope its going to be worth it!

I don't know about 'vette killer, but it will give it a good run. The C6 coupe weighs about 3100lbs. The 350z coupe weighs about 150lbs more... awd and turbo parts don't come weight free. So I expect the GT-R to be atleast 15% heavier than the vette when all is said and done. So it will have to produce at least 15% more power, meaning it will have to make 450hp, which its supposed to.

So 'vette killer? I don't know... a good magazine article pitting them against each other, definitely.

Ppl who work at the infineon race track in Sonoma, CA said when they saw the preproduction GTR doing time trials on the track, it looked as fast or faster than new Porsche 911 Turbos, just to give a reference point.

Either way in straight line acceleration, damn fast.

Ed

I don't know about 'vette killer, but it will give it a good run. The C6 coupe weighs about 3100lbs. The 350z coupe weighs about 150lbs more... awd and turbo parts don't come weight free. So I expect the GT-R to be atleast 15% heavier than the vette when all is said and done. So it will have to produce at least 15% more power, meaning it will have to make 450hp, which its supposed to.

So 'vette killer? I don't know... a good magazine article pitting them against each other, definitely.

I'm guessing it will give the Z06 a good run, and will trounce the base Vette. That's based on it's 911 Turbo performance target, which it will more than likely match or beat. I'm personally guessing it will have about 500hp stock in order to beat the 480hp 911. Also, it probably doesn't need to be said, but we have no idea what curb weight will be. Based on the fact it's supposed to share the FM platform people are assuming it will be a 350z with different styling plus AWD and TT system. This isn't nessecarily the case. They could be using lighter materials, different frame/chassis design, etc. I wouldn't start betting on curb weight just yet, but somewhere between 3150-3800 would be a good guess.

I don't know about 'vette killer, but it will give it a good run. The C6 coupe weighs about 3100lbs. The 350z coupe weighs about 150lbs more... awd and turbo parts don't come weight free. So I expect the GT-R to be atleast 15% heavier than the vette when all is said and done. So it will have to produce at least 15% more power, meaning it will have to make 450hp, which its supposed to.

So 'vette killer? I don't know... a good magazine article pitting them against each other, definitely.

People have spoke what I read. The benchmark for the GT-R is the Porsche 997-chassis 911 Turbo. From what I've heard, the car can keep up with it if not trounce it at the tracks. That type of performance is at least base/convertible Vette killing.

pricing is going to be ~$49K (base) to $59K (loaded).
weight is going to be 3500 lbs to 3700 lbs

performace = 997 turbo

I don't know if it will be in the same class as the ZO6 when it comes out, the C7 ZO6 coming in 2010 is rummored to have 700hp.

To be fair to Nissan, did they not set out to make the 350Z have Boxster-like performance for >2/3 price? I think they did a decent job with that, so if past performance is any indication, I believe in future results :p

I don't know if it will be in the same class as the ZO6 when it comes out, the C7 ZO6 coming in 2010 is rummored to have 700hp.

Are you talking about the Blue Devil/SS? It's coming out as '09 model with price tag of ~$100k. It's not a Z06 replacement it's the next step up. It's also C6 not C7.

I thought the GT-R's was marketed by Nissan to target the Porsche 911, not the "Vette"

Either way, I'm sure it'll be a beast to contend with at the ring.

I don't know about 'vette killer, but it will give it a good run. The C6 coupe weighs about 3100lbs. The 350z coupe weighs about 150lbs more... awd and turbo parts don't come weight free. So I expect the GT-R to be atleast 15% heavier than the vette when all is said and done. So it will have to produce at least 15% more power, meaning it will have to make 450hp, which its supposed to.

So 'vette killer? I don't know... a good magazine article pitting them against each other, definitely.

I have a feeling whatever hp Nissan rate the GT-R at, 450 or not, it's going to be under-rated. The GT-R power ratings have always been under-rated. I also don't believe Nissan can only squeeze 450 hp out of a 3.7L twin-turbo V6. Heck, I got 355 whp out of the 3.0L twin-turbo in my Z boosting only 15 psi. With .7L more displacement and 15 years worth of engine and turbo improvements I'm sure Nissan engineers did much better than 450 hp.

I'm guessing it will give the Z06 a good run, and will trounce the base Vette. That's based on it's 911 Turbo performance target, which it will more than likely match or beat. I'm personally guessing it will have about 500hp stock in order to beat the 480hp 911. Also, it probably doesn't need to be said, but we have no idea what curb weight will be. Based on the fact it's supposed to share the FM platform people are assuming it will be a 350z with different styling plus AWD and TT system. This isn't nessecarily the case. They could be using lighter materials, different frame/chassis design, etc. I wouldn't start betting on curb weight just yet, but somewhere between 3150-3800 would be a good guess.

For what it's worth, I remember Nissan stating the GT-R will not share a platform with any other car.

My guestimate is it will weigh in right around where the 911 and R34 have weighed ~3,400lbs.

By the way, if they can keep a $55-60K price tag... well that would be just terrific :p I think I need to ask for a promotion.

I agree with what someone put in here on the first page... that you can't use British pound straight conversion to price a car. You can also get an Evo in Britain for $50K equivalent. That said, still sounds like a 40k start would be pretty dang cheap... I'm thinking US gets watered down, non-6 piston, etc. and $48k.

^^As the article says, the base GT-R will sell for about £29,000 in JAPAN. That's about 6.9 million yen which is about a price of loaded Nissan Cima in Japan. The Infiniti Q45 is based on the Cima. The Q45 was killed in 2006 but it's MSRP was around $60k. From this logic I believe the base GT-R will sell for ~$60k in US. The top of the line will be in the $100k+.

^^As the article says, the base GT-R will sell for about £29,000 in JAPAN. That's about 6.9 million yen which is about a price of loaded Nissan Cima in Japan. The Infiniti Q45 is based on the Cima. The Q45 was killed in 2006 but it's MSRP was around $60k. From this logic I believe the base GT-R will sell for ~$60k in US. The top of the line will be in the $100k+.

Hope they are not hoping for a lot of volume at $100k...