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Solidus
12-10-2001, 06:15 PM
Hey guys
Unfortunately Friday was a very grim day for me. It snowed all night and the Lake Tahoe area was hit with over 2.5 feet of snow.
Well I decided to go put the WRX through its paces this particular day and there I was carving left and right cutting with the sucker like he was a pair of skis. And then I hit Ice a lot of Ice and I took
a slow motion skid right into a 6 foot snow bank. Luckily I still hadnt put in the new WRC hid headlights I purchased from Tai Chi which I might add was the best buying experience Ive had yet so only my stock light got really taken. Below is where you will find the visual confirmation of the horror I experienced
enjoy.:(

andywrx
12-10-2001, 06:25 PM
I know this question is coming so I'll go ahead and post it:
Are those the stock RE-92s?

Solidus
12-10-2001, 06:30 PM
Yes they are.
And yes not replacing them was my first mistake.
What do you guys recommend?

spd wgn
12-10-2001, 06:46 PM
hey

you did ok ...you're alive and your beloved only needs a little cosmetic work.

count your blessings.

btw no conventional regular or snow tires work on ice

Solidus
12-10-2001, 07:21 PM
Your right I did get lucky.
And thanks for the headsup spd wgn

munkis
12-10-2001, 08:04 PM
that totally sux, but please dont blame the tires, its not their fault.

Jay McDade

gtguy
12-10-2001, 08:11 PM
Bummer. It could have been worse, so count your blessings.

Only WS-series Blizzaks do well on ice (outside of studded tires) but even those will find limits. Ice is a major problem.

Having said that, I don't know the speed or situation, so I can't tell you if you would have had a better chance without RE92s. You probably would have, though. No, they aren't terrible tires. But the difference between RE92s and a good tire, even a good all-season tire, is dramatic.

Kevin

JC
12-10-2001, 08:32 PM
Dude no offense, but I drove through a whole winter on the RE92s and never had an accident.

JC

Stanley
12-10-2001, 09:08 PM
and there I was carving left and right cutting with the sucker like he was a pair of skis.
Well, I think all better tires would have done is make the impact occur at a higher speed. No offense, but you just shouldn't carve with a car! It has tires, not edges!:rolleyes:

Having said that, get some snow tires for winters if you live near Tahoe. It will make braking so much safer and driving less stressful. I saw a few accidents near Sugar Bowl this weekend. Ice is really, really slippery!

BTW, I learned to drive in the snow in a '73 Nova with a bail of hay in the back for traction. And yes, I packed a couple of snow banks...:lol: I then re-learned to drive in the snow with my Civic. And yes, I packed a snow bank:rolleyes:
SO...hopefully I've learned my lesson and won't pack my new Rex into a snowbank:eek:

BluSuby
12-10-2001, 09:33 PM
:( I know the feeling. Check out my thread ! Except I hit a 3 ft concrete wall! Glad you're Ok,
Bryan

footypaul
12-10-2001, 09:39 PM
Sorry to hear about that.
I think the tires may have alot to do with your accident.
But one thing alot of people arent taking into account-Yes its AWD, and will go like a mountain goat, but that still doesnt help you stop. Its better than a 4X4 pickup truck without weight in the back end, but anything is hard to stop on slick surfaces.
Hope everything works out. At least you werent racing or doing something completely stupid like some people that have wrecked

REDOO2000
12-10-2001, 10:40 PM
thats what my car looked like when i hit a dog
it cost $3800 to fix
sorry about accident

footypaul
12-10-2001, 11:17 PM
Dang, what kind of dog was that? a great dane? geee, i always picture a dog taking out part of the front air dam and a foglight or something

bcollan1
12-10-2001, 11:58 PM
I'm looking at Dunlap sp5000's for a year 'round solution...
They'll help in the wet and the snow,
But nothing can help with ice 'cept studs (definately NA)

You just have to drive like Gramps when there might be ice:D

Subie Gal
12-11-2001, 12:25 AM
bummer about your car!! :(

i use Hakka 1's (studded) when i go into deep snow...

but you can navigate up to 12" w/all seasons , etc.
if you are careful and cautious...

i wish u the best of luck
Jamie
www.subiegal.com

Solidus
12-11-2001, 01:01 AM
Thanks so much for the info guys Im definitely going to be getting a new set of tires soon. The only good thing about the wreck that I just found out about is the body shop doing all the work has arranged it so they can order a whole bunch of third party parts for the car that I already wanted. Fog light covers, Different Bottom Lip Spoiler, Different hood and so on. Its all stuff I was going to replace the car with anyway only now its only going to cost me a $500 deductible.
Thanks again guys:D

HoratioCaine
12-11-2001, 04:06 AM
Originally posted by Subie Gal
if you are careful and cautious...


Which was not the case here. He was goofing off and hit some snow. No sympathy here. Sorry man, but if you're going to screw around, stuff like this is going to happen.

HndaTch627
12-11-2001, 04:12 AM
Originally posted by horatio102


Which was not the case here. He was goofing off and hit some snow. No sympathy here. Sorry man, but if you're going to screw around, stuff like this is going to happen.

i kinda feel the same way...AWD doesn't make you invicible in snow...but it does make you handle better.

jeremy

COwannago
12-11-2001, 04:15 AM
Are those the stock RE-92s?
Don't know how much you know about snow driving being from Florida, but the 92's are pretty decent in the snow. I traversed Loveland pass here in Colorado (elevation 12,000ft) right before they closed the road and I tore it up, I was driving responsibly as well. The only time they provided no traction was one night after a warm day, started snowing like there was no tomorrow, snow melted, froze, continued piling up on the road, not cool. Traffic was going 15mph in a 45 zone. Only studs or chains would have made a difference, and it would have been only a little difference, I can say from experience.

Nick C.
Be careful.

8Complex
12-11-2001, 05:46 AM
Dude, I see grass in those pics... where is the 2.5 feet of snow? :lol: ;)

Seamus
12-11-2001, 08:17 AM
Seems like your enthusiasm got the better of you. You were showing off and paid the price. Lucky you were in an area where you didn't slide into oncoming traffic, or hit anything harder than a snow-bank. Hope this experience teaches you a lesson about driving in any conditions, good weather or bad.

Why do so many folks seem to get overcome with a sort of "I'm Invincible", "King of the Hill" feeling when they get behind the wheel of a WRX. Big mistake.

And don't let yourself be convinced that it was simply the stock tires that were responsible. Some other posters have already made good comments about that. Too many have already used that arguement as an easy excuse to deny their inexperience and poor judgement. Are there better tires than the RE-92's? Sure. But there are plenty of folks who've put thousands upon thousands of miles on them without a problem, in all conditions. No matter what car you have, or what equipment you use, if you drive reckless or in an unsafe manner for existing road conditions, you will eventually get bit.

Hope this will be the last time you have ever have to bring your baby to the body shop. Happy trails.

JC
12-11-2001, 11:46 AM
Originally posted by 8Complex
Dude, I see grass in those pics... where is the 2.5 feet of snow? :lol: ;)

Tahoe is a good distance from Miden.

JC

Martin Ritchie
12-11-2001, 03:36 PM
I fear this is just the beginning of a slew of posts about I-Clubers coming to grief in the snow and ice and blaming it on the tires. Listen to Subie Gal
but you can navigate up to 12" w/all seasons , etc. if you are careful and cautious...
Hey, no tire is going to save you driving too fast on snow even though you have AWD, and no tire is safe on ice. I saw a guy with snow tires on his Jeep Cherokee park on an incline at a service plaza in Breezewood PA after a freezing rain storm. He got out, shut the door. The Jeep then proceeded to slide (slow at first, then faster and faster) all the way down the hill before plowing into parked car. Ice is nasty stuff.

HoratioCaine
12-11-2001, 03:43 PM
Come to think of it, in my '92 Legacy wagon I went up into the hills after a snowfall and I was pushing fresh powder with my headlights. That with the stock-replacement (car had almost 100k miles on it at the time) all-season tires. It went just fine. I had guys in lifted 4x4s getting out of the way. And when the trail was blocked by a Toyota trying to pull a Suburban out of the (flippin) canyon, I was able to do a 5 point turn and go home. A lot of the trucks had to wait because they couldn't turn around.

These cars are capable of some awesome things, but speed is NOT your friend when you're talking about ice. (Except to get up hills, then you want a running start)

Solidus
12-11-2001, 05:15 PM
Hey guys I appreciate all the comments so
far. And as much as I wish I could continue to blame the tires for
what happened no matter how good or bad the tires were( I mean they could have had 2 inch heated studs on them)the fact of the matter is I got pretty much what I deserve. But I wanted to thank all the posts on recommended tires and also those that
exposed me for the putting to much stock in my driving abilities.:)

JC
12-11-2001, 11:38 PM
Hey yo, I might try to set up a small meet when I get home, are you down?

JC

Solidus
12-12-2001, 03:50 AM
Absolutely
hit me back whenever your ready.

Assuming my car is in working order there is still a lot of winter left.:)