I need answers fast so I can return it and find one!
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Look inside to determine what standards it meets.

doesnt say anything inside??

For some places, no it won't. Some organizations will only take a Snell rating. Be sure and check with who you are running with. Right now it is Snell 95 and later for SCCA

doesnt say anything inside??

If there is not a DOT or SNELL sticker inside take it back.

There is a DOT sticker on the back of the helmet, all that is inside is padding, padding, and more padding...It looks pretty safe? I posted a pic of what the sticker thing says

SCCA will also take

SFI 31.1a, 31.2A, 41.1A, or 41.2A

Some helmets have the SNELL sticker under some part of the interior padding (my Bell X-15 does). If there is no SNELL sticker, then it isn't going to work for SCCA autocross.

Looking at the Zephyr specs at Walmart online, it only mentions that it meets DOT specs, no mention of SNELL.

Given that (and the fact it's a WalMart helmet to begin with), I'd guess that it's probably not Snell rated, and you need to return it.

DOT is not nearly as restrictive as SNELL, and not adequate for any motorsports.

If that is the Bell zephyr helmet I can not find anything online about it being SNELL rated so it looks like it is only DOT rated so not legal for most AutoX events.

There is a DOT sticker on the back of the helmet, all that is inside is padding, padding, and more padding...It looks pretty safe? I posted a pic of what the sticker thing says

Looks don't count. It must have a sticker inside that says SNELL SA 2000 or Snell M 2000 or Snell SA 2005 or Snell M 2005 to be legal for SCCA Solo.

Alright I returned said helmet and went to one of the local motorsports place, they had helmets for $40 more. Just a plain one, like I wanted too. :)

Looks don't count. It must have a sticker inside that says SNELL SA 2000 or Snell M 2000 or Snell SA 2005 or Snell M 2005 to be legal for SCCA Solo.

OR

SFI 31.1a, 31.2A, 41.1A, or 41.2A

OR

Snell SA95 or Snell M95 (the rule is "Current snell rating and the two previous" with 2005 being current and 2000 and 95 being the previous 2)

OR

SFI 31.1a, 31.2A, 41.1A, or 41.2A

OR

Snell SA95 or Snell M95 (the rule is "Current snell rating and the two previous" with 2005 being current and 2000 and 95 being the previous 2)
But they (SCCA SEB) don't recognize British Standard certified helmets such as Peltor rally helmets that some of us have for stage rally BUT SCCA Rallycross deems it safe enough to run @ rallycross events.

If my Peltor is worthy enough to protect WRC drivers doing triple digit speeds on gravel, snow or tarmac then why shouldn't it be good enough for silly parking lot racing??? And YES I've already brought it up to the SEB for their review. Never heard anything back...

And YES I've already brought it up to the SEB for their review. Never heard anything back...

Different types of impact protection... blah blah blah.

Did you get a case/tracking number when you sent it to the SEB? If not you might want to send it again since some things seem to get "lost" on their way there if you never get a number.

Different types of impact protection... blah blah blah.

Did you get a case/tracking number when you sent it to the SEB? If not you might want to send it again since some things seem to get "lost" on their way there if you never get a number.
Different kinds of protection? Trees, exposures, rocks, etc are a bit harder than a plastic orange plyon. I'd say if it's allowed to save my noggin in those situations a rogue pylon flying into my STi will be no problem. :lol:

I did get a case #. I'll have to find it on my home laptop and inquire again.

It only makes sense to allow that standard of helmet since SCCA Rallycross already allows it. Streamlining of rules makes it easier for everyone.

Different kinds of protection? Trees, exposures, rocks, etc are a bit harder than a plastic orange plyon.Rally-x != Stage Rally. I don't think I've ever heard where a rally-x car has hit a solid object (save one... GG.. and I don't think GGs was an SCCA event)

The speeds are generally lower and auto-x cars do impact solid objects (if/when it happens) at a generally faster speed. We've seen & heard of roll-overs too... (more at auto-x than rally-x actually just because of the sheer speed and grip).

That said, I believe that the SEB is reviewing the recommendation for the SEB to accept SFI accreditations for Solo.

--kC

But they (SCCA SEB) don't recognize British Standard certified helmets such as Peltor rally helmets that some of us have for stage rally BUT SCCA Rallycross deems it safe enough to run @ rallycross events.

If my Peltor is worthy enough to protect WRC drivers doing triple digit speeds on gravel, snow or tarmac then why shouldn't it be good enough for silly parking lot racing??? And YES I've already brought it up to the SEB for their review. Never heard anything back...

Why don't you bug Peltor too? Seems they could just as easily get a Snell sticker to put in their helmet.

The odd thing is, as I read the rules, they allowed BSI helmets in 2005 ("FIA approved helmets which are acceptable for use in Rally events are acceptable for Solo II events."), but then the wording was removed.

Oh great, we have people now buying their safety equipment at Wal Mart? :eek:

Rally-x != Stage Rally. I don't think I've ever heard where a rally-x car has hit a solid object (save one... GG.. and I don't think GGs was an SCCA event)

The speeds are generally lower and auto-x cars do impact solid objects (if/when it happens) at a generally faster speed. We've seen & heard of roll-overs too... (more at auto-x than rally-x actually just because of the sheer speed and grip).

That said, I believe that the SEB is reviewing the recommendation for the SEB to accept SFI accreditations for Solo.

--kC
Rallycross is NOT stage rally in terms of severity of potential impacts (if the course is designed correctly and to SCCA recommendations.)

I've seen both accidents @ rallycross & solo. Two accidents last year alone in local rallycross events. They didn't hit immovable objects (both cars rolled by hitting ruts in the course, one MUCH more severe than the other) but they were more violent than any solo incident I've seen.

I hope they include SFI and BS rated helmets since it's makes sense IMO.

With that said...KC, you got email on info@rallydecals.com on some work I need done. :D

SFI is included according to 2007 Solo rules online. Page 33 of the book (47 of 316 online).

http://www.scca.org/_FileLibrary/File/2007SoloRules.pdf

at least ratings 31.1a, 31.2A, 41.1A, or 41.2A

SFI is included according to 2007 Solo rules online. Page 33 of the book (47 of 316 online).

http://www.scca.org/_FileLibrary/File/2007SoloRules.pdf

at least ratings 31.1a, 31.2A, 41.1A, or 41.2A
That's good but Peltor doesn't state it's SFI approved (according to the Demon Tweeks description of the helmet.) I looked around on Peltor's website and didn't find anything.

BS 6658:85 Type A/FR and European E22-02 Standards

Rallycross is NOT stage rally in terms of severity of potential impacts (if the course is designed correctly and to SCCA recommendations.)

I've seen both accidents @ rallycross & solo. Two accidents last year alone in local rallycross events. They didn't hit immovable objects (both cars rolled by hitting ruts in the course, one MUCH more severe than the other) but they were more violent than any solo incident I've seen.

I hope they include SFI and BS rated helmets since it's makes sense IMO.

With that said...KC, you got email on info@rallydecals.com on some work I need done. :D
And this is why you don't let your roommate borrow your helmet. They go off and do something stupid like roll a jeep at a rallycross and crack the helmet! Idiots trying to rallycross a jeep!


Mykrrrr, work on that Peltor certification stuff. It'd be kinda fun to rig your helmet to a radio transmitter so you can call out corners as you go through the course and everyone can laugh as its broadcast through the main speakers at the event!

And this is why you don't let your roommate borrow your helmet. They go off and do something stupid like roll a jeep at a rallycross and crack the helmet! Idiots trying to rallycross a jeep!


Mykrrrr, work on that Peltor certification stuff. It'd be kinda fun to rig your helmet to a radio transmitter so you can call out corners as you go through the course and everyone can laugh as its broadcast through the main speakers at the event!

:lol: it wouldn't be hard to hook up. Just need to get an FM transmitter. I think someone ran a couple runs as ballast w/the wireless mic a few years back. IIRC it was Sum Yun Guy's co-driver. :p

Not sure what I was thinking before when I said DOT was OK. Most DOT only helmets, like those at Walmart, are Bicycle helmets and are not OK to use for solo unless they included a Snell or SFI standard that meets 4.3.1.

These are what you can use for solo:

4.3.1 Helmets
Helmets meeting the following standards must be worn while on
course: All helmets meeting the current or two immediately
preceding Snell Foundation standards (SA, K, or M), or SFI standards
31.1A, 31.2A, 41.1A, or 41.2A are acceptable.

I don't think there are many rallyX officials who would turn away someone with a proper Peltor helmet. If they do they need to take the rulebook out of their ass.

I don't think there are many rallyX officials who would turn away someone with a proper Peltor helmet. If they do they need to take the rulebook out of their ass.

That's not in question here. SCCA rallycross rules allow BS (British Standards) certified helmets. It's in the '07 rules. It's the Solo2 arm of the SCCA that doesn't recognize them as permissible.

I just looked @ my old emails and I can't find the case #. CRAP!!!!!! :(