Well after a March Gran Turismo Challenge put on by MattDell, he has decided to put with Studies first instead of Continuing the fun at least through April. HA HA So Thats were I come in. I have put together another Challenge and for the most part will keep the rules and what not the same as last month. The plan is to do a tournament style challenge, I will at least have a handful of challenges. Below I have copied and pasted the rules and regulations the MattDell put together for the previous challenge.

Overview of Rules
Many of this stuff is repeated from above, but go ahead and read this for all the fine details. Sorry for the rigid structure, but I just want to make sure everyone is clear! Above all, I just want people to have fun with this.

Note that these rules will most likely change around this first month. Be sure to check the edit time of this first post to see if I've updated it!

The Challenges
I have decided to starts the challenges on a friday and end on a friday to make it a little easier to remember what the deadline is to submit a time, so the deadline for your submission comes at every friday by midnight EST.
I will ideally try to keep lap times under 2 minutes, however I can't guarantee this. I will also try my best to keep the challenges both interesting and challenging. No one wants to be driving a Triumph Spitfire down the back straight of Circuit de la Sarthe II, do they?
I will try to get the challenges up at a reasonable time, but don't expect things to be updated at exactly 12:00AM EST for each challenge.
THIS WILL BE A 10 CHALLENGE TOURNAMENT
You will notice that on the day the current challenge ends and new one has already began, I will try it this way just so that every things ends on the same day, so I will try and have each new challenge up on Friday evenings.

Submission
I cannot read this thread to find everyone's best time. Therefore, I'm requesting that everyone PM me their best time for each week's challenge. Simply send me a PM with your screenname, screen shot and time, and then an example of the PM subject would be "challenge #1 time.
You may only submit one time per week, so make sure that the time you send me is your fastest! After you submit a time, you cannot submit another. Sorry to be a hardass, but it will make things run smoother on my end.
To submit a time, you must send me a screenshot of your time! I feel the majority of people have either a digital camera or camera phone, so this shouldn't be a problem. If it is, I'll reconsider. In your photo, please make an attempt to somehow show the car in either third person or in text. Obviously I'll be lenient here, but this is ideally what you should send me.
Also to make things easier, please use this format when you PM
Quote:
Subject: Challenge #1 time for [username]
Message:
[Your time]
Attach a screen shot!

Scoring
After each round I will compile everyone's submitted time. From there, I will determine everyone's position for that challenge.
Points system as follows:
1st place: 15 points
2nd place: 12 points
3rd place: 10 points
4th place: 8 points
5th place: 6 points
6th place: 5 points
7th place: 4 points
8th place: 3 points
9th place: 2 points
10th place: 1 point
Lower than 10th place: 0 points
After each week, the points will be added up so you can see who's leading whom. At the end of the tournament, the points will be tallied for the final results.
Unless there is a crazy number of participants, I think this scoring system should work quite well for this application. If not, I might consider revising it.

Miscellany
The game version is Gran Turismo 4.
You should use simulation mode, not arcade mode.
Above anything else, please do not cheat. Cheating consists of cutting corners, taking more than two wheels off the track, modifying your car when the rules do not permit, etc. Just don't do it. The only thing I can confirm with a photo is that you used the specified car on the specified track to get your submitted time. Therefore, this makes it a partial honor system and I hope everyone can respect that. Again, this is for fun so there shouldn't be any reason to cheat!
I'm extremely open to suggestions for challenges, rules, or whatever! Either post it up in the thread or PM me. I'm always open to new ideas!
Even though you can only submit one time to me, you are extremely encouraged to post up your current best time in this thread and trash talk amongst yourselves! It will definitely make things more fun!
I will try not to pick extremely difficult cars to source, but occasionally you may be required to purchase an expensive car or acquire a prize car. It's just the nature of the beast, so be prepared! If you need extra cash, I highly suggest running the Fuji 1000km endurance event with an F1 car. It only takes a few hours and you get around 1,500,000 credits after prize money and after.

Ok I think that should cover it if i have forgotten anything please let me know. I will post the current challenge below is red so everyone is on the same page, if I end up changes anything i will highlight it in red, so hopefully I have covered everything. Have Fun!!!

FINAL STANDINGS
1st place Jl05sti 181 points
2nd place NRTmotorsports 148 points
3rd place Dogbert2 121 points
4th place Chiketkd 110 points
5th place Shikatagnai 41 points
6th place Jeisen 30 points
7th place afpdl 27 points
8th place Deludedteg 27 points
9th place Law 24 points
10th place: WorstNameEver 23 points
11th place virrdog 3 points

Challenge #1 Results
1st place Jl05STI 124.501
2nd place Jeisen 124.927
3rd place NRTmotorsports 125.304
4th place Dogbert2 125.396
5th place Chiketkd 125.500
6th place Virrdog 126.514
7th place Deludedteg 129.705

Challenge #2 Results
1st place Jl05STI 124.500
2nd place Dogbert2 125.357
3rd place NRTmotorsports 125.790
4th place Jeisen 126.282
5th place Chiketkd 127.703
6th place Deludedteg 129.571

Challenge #3 Results
1st place Jl05STI 127.518
2nd Place Dogbert2 128.646
3rd place Chiketkd 129.339
4th place NRTmotorsports 129.501
5th place Jeisen 129.577
6th place afpdl 130.164
7th place Deludedteg 131.239

Challenge# 4 Results
1st place JL05STI 126.270
2nd place NRTmotorsports 127.010
3rd place Chiketkd 127.564
4th place dogbert2 128.100
5th place afpdl 131.592
6th place deludedteg 131.974

Challenge #5 Results
1st place Jl05STI 141.805 in the STI
2nd place NRTmotorsports 142.101 in the STI
3rd place Dogbert2 142.216 in the EVO
4th place Chiketkd 142.649 in the EVO
5th place afpdl 144.991 in the EVO

Challenge #6 Results
1st Place Dogbert2 121.799
2nd Place Chiketkd 121.895
3rd place Shikatagnai 122.708
4th place NRTmotorsports 122.722
5th place Jl05STI 123.355
6th place afpld 123.776
7th Jeisen 126.088
8th place WorstNameEver 126.650

Challenge #7 Results
1st Place NRTmotorsports 116.991
2nd Place WorstNameEver 117.137
3rd Place Jl05STI 117.185
4th Place Chiketkd 117.719
5th Place Dogbert2 117.915
6th Place Shikataganai 118.897
7th place Deludedteg 119.069

Challenge #8 Results
1st Place JL05STI 126.696
2nd Place NRTmotorsports 127.801
3rd Place Dogbert2 128.006
4th Place Chiketkd 128.241
5th Place Shikatagnai 128.861
6th Place Deludedteg 132.898

Challenge #9 Results
1st Place JL05STI 118.404
2nd Place NRTmotorsports 118.791
3rd Place Chiketkd 118.911
4th Place Worstnameever 118.977
5th Place Law 119.828
6th Place Shikataganai 119.876

Challenge #10 Results
1st place JL05STI
Benz 353.828
C5R 327.444
Mazda 300.103
AVERAGE TIME 327.125

2nd Place NRTmotorsports
Benz 354.957
C5R 327.010
Mazda 301.546
AVERAGE TIME 327.838

3rd Place Dogbert2
Benz 354.545
C5R 328.484
Mazda 302.170
AVERAGE TIME 328.400

4th Place Chiketkd
Benz 356.098
C5R 327.856
Mazda 304.755
AVERGAE TIME 329.570

5th Place Law
Benz 355.448
C5R 327.806
Mazda 305.997
AVERAGE TIME 329.750

6th Place Shikatagnai
Benz 354.708
C5R 327.728
Mazda 307.468
AVERAGE TIME 329.968

Why can't we do some Forza Challenges

I'm in. Times soon to come.

cool i am in

Challenge #1
Vehicle: Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C5) '00
Course: " World Circuits" Infineon Raceway Sports Car Course
Rules: Must have stock HP no engine mods, exhaust mods, and NO NITRIOUS
All other modifications legal so go nuts with any suspsension, brake, weight reduction, you may choose any tire compound and of course driver aids are your choice. SO stock HP a must and everything else is up to you.
I'm in. Just to be 100% clear..are we allowed to add a wing and tune downforce?

I think we need to do this out on the west coast

Also, are we allowed to change the gearing of the transmission?

SO stock HP a must and everything else is up to you.

I'm assuming you can do anything as long as the HP stays the same.

Unless you allow full modifications people will cheat like they did in matt's challenge.

Unless you allow full modifications people will cheat like they did in matt's challenge.
I disagree - these challenges that use an 'honor system' seem to work great.

For the record I never cheated in Matt's challenge. Not once. I never even won a weekly challenge. You did win one weekly challenge. So if anything you're pointing the finger at yourself. :lol: If I was going to cheat, why would I do it to come in 2nd or 5th or 7th? These challenges are relaxing and fun. If I come in DFL I wouldn't give a crap.

Starting now.....you guys are gonna make me waste my whole weekend on this. :)

Starting now.....you guys are gonna make me waste my whole weekend on this. :)

+1 on that

So what kinda times are people turning?

I have stock 404hp (after oil change), full suspension, aero, brakes, R5 tires and an lsd upgrade and I'm turning times in the 1'26.xxx range.

Yeah you are allowed to change anything you want EXCEPT for anything that will increase horsepower. You can add a wing adjust downforce, change any transmission, suspension and brake components.

^
And we are allowed oil changes - like in Matt's last challenge?

yes oil chages allowed

Damnit...I'm cranking out a 1:28.xx on only 385 HP! Oil change time.

Dude I'm so awsome at GT4 only if i had ps2 still im a 360 guy now. cant wait for Forza 2 to come out im sick at that game tuning for tracks and all its a fun game.

I bet if i got on GT4 today even tough i havent played it in a year or so i'd still own ppl.

Damnit...I'm cranking out a 1:28.xx on only 385 HP! Oil change time.

128:382 is the best I can muster with an oil change. Hp ratings seem to vary on the stock power depending on if you're buying parts or looking at it in the garage. I'll be lucky to shave a couple morth tenths off of that, but I am being lazy and using a slushbox !

How do I send screenshots without attachment posting priveleges ? At what point do I get to, anyway ? Do I have to have 1000 posts, be a member for 2 years or what ? I can't find that info on the site, and yes I searched !

GT tournament !!! awsome stuff.. whens the next one?

Just saw this and said what the heck. little to no tuning of suspension/trans/weight balance, etc. Just a hair over 1:30 and I have had a couple ;)

Gonna give it a real try tomorrow.


Lets do something crazy next, like use a subaru of your choice on a particular track, with unlimited mods.

It seems all I do with this game as of late, is run the RING with a subie tuned as close to my own personal ride as possible over and over. Does that make me crazy? :) I know this would really skew the paying field, but it is a game afterall. Doing the real thing is much better.

Lets do something crazy next, like use a subaru of your choice on a particular track, with unlimited mods.


Maybe you should look here http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1235406

What Infineon configuration? stock car course or sports car course? How about a Tsukuba time attack challenge? I've got a couple sub 59 sec street cars.

What Infineon configuration? stock car course or sports car course? How about a Tsukuba time attack challenge? I've got a couple sub 59 sec street cars.

Course: " World Circuits" Infineon Raceway Sports Car Course


I need to snap to it. Best so far is 1'30.9xx. I'm teh suck :(

So what kinda times are people turning?

I have stock 404hp (after oil change), full suspension, aero, brakes, R5 tires and an lsd upgrade and I'm turning times in the 1'26.xxx range.

I snapped a pic of a 1:28.468.....clearly I have work left to do. I've already done a lot of work to improve the front end grip....the car still doesn't turn as easily as I'd like it to. I think I need to soften the rear LSD on accel.

This was my fastest time as of last night - haven't had a chance to play since.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d14/Chiketkd/GT4%20Challenge/Z06-Infineon125.jpg

404hp after oil change, lsd, R5 tires, suspension, aero, weight reduction and adjusted transmission gears.

dang.. going to make me pull out the PS2 again...

Why can't we do some Forza Challenges

i'll do one

so far I'm down to a 1:26.130. I think I left at least half a second entering the esses on that lap. Hopefully I will have time to have at it again this week.

PS: I'm really liking this car on this course. good suggestion.

PS: I'm really liking this car on this course. good suggestion.
+1 I'm also lovin' the C5 Z06 on this course. Great car! :devil:

Yes I to like that car on this course thats why I choose this challenge. I just started brainstorming on next weeks challenge, I have a few good ideas. Ok im gonna go turn a few more laps, I need to make up a little time to catch up.

Whittled my best time down slightly - 1'25.500:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d14/Chiketkd/GT4%20Challenge/Z06-Infineon125-1.jpg

May not have alot of free time during the week to play, so this may very well be the time I submit. I definitely feel a low 1'25 or even very high 1'24 is possible. It's all about set-up and I'm nearing the ceiling of mine...

1:25.198

definitely a 1:24.xxx out there, I was just too tired to string it all together.

Oh noez...

It's on again...

1'29. I'm getting better :)

I may take another crack at this track this evening. It's definitely a blast to drive... I've been as much as 0.268 seconds ahead of my ghost by the first time split, so I know my set-up can go faster than my 1'25.500.

Well I WAS happy breaking 129. But man 125 oh no.

Ran this some and so far i'm a 1'24.918.

When must we have our times in by today?

I give up. PMed my time.

I just PM'd mine as well.

I may take another crack at this track this evening. It's definitely a blast to drive... I've been as much as 0.268 seconds ahead of my ghost by the first time split, so I know my set-up can go faster than my 1'25.500.

I was in the same boat. Always beat my best time in the first sector but inevitably, I make a mistake elsewhere in the track. Then my hand started hurting and I gave up.

My time for this week: 1:34.827. Now I just need to send the photo in when I get home.

I was distracted lol. Time is actually 1:24.927

As of right now I only have 4 submission times, I will allow submissions up til I log on tommorow afternoon and will try and have results up by tommorow night or sunday. As for Challenge #2 I am posting that up now. Good luck:cool:

Almost did not remember this. PM send.

Time sent. Can't tell if the PM is going through, though. I hope to have more than 20 minutes to work on the next one. Its weird going through that course when used to the R8 and the F1... :p

How different is arcade mode to career mode or whatever its called? Is career mode more realistic or able to modify the car more?

So far I'm at a sloppy 1:27.368 in the elise. What are you guys running?

1:30.7xx I know I can do better. Just gotta do some tweakin' here and there. Fairly certain I gotta tighten the nut behind the wheel.

So far I'm at a sloppy 1:27.368 in the elise. What are you guys running?
I'm at a really sloppy 1'29.5xx. Haven't even started tuning my set-up yet...

Challenge #1 results up, sorry it has taken so long. Gonna for fire up the Lotus:devil:

Challenge #1 results up, sorry it has taken so long. Gonna for fire up the Lotus:devil:
Thanks. If you don't mind, please correct the spelling of my username - it should read 'chiketkd'. Much appreciated! :p

oh im sorry I totally screwed that up:(

Just ran a 1:26.282. If I get another chance, I will have a 1:25.xxx.

It would appear that I am teh suck :(

Just ran a 1:26.282. If I get another chance, I will have a 1:25.xxx.
What kinda hp level is your car at?

I guess I suck extra bad at cote d' azur. Im normally off the pace but not 10 secs off.

What kinda hp level is your car at?

I think I am at 350hp, that's with the all of the engine mods without nitrous.

I'm right up there with jeisen, just need to work on turn 1 and the chicane after the tunnel. 1.25.xx is definitely possible.

Blah... PM'ed you my time.

I got down to a 1'27.7xx I'll PM my time in the morning. This course seems to be all about maintaining momentum...

You know, Turn one I'm ok with, it's the turn before the hairpin that gets me for some reason. I keep going wider than I need to, and happen to find a wall. I'm ok with everything else, it just doesn't seem that I'm doing it as fast as the rest of you guys. Well at least I'm consistent. I've been consistently hitting 1:30.xxx. I'd be happy with a 1:29.xxx.

You know, Turn one I'm ok with, it's the turn before the hairpin that gets me for some reason. I keep going wider than I need to, and happen to find a wall. I'm ok with everything else, it just doesn't seem that I'm doing it as fast as the rest of you guys. Well at least I'm consistent. I've been consistently hitting 1:30.xxx. I'd be happy with a 1:29.xxx.
Max out downforce and adjust your driver aids and suspension settings to maximize front grip and dial out understeer.

Max out downforce on the front only, or front and back? I've turned all my driver aids off. I'll play with them some more and see what I get.

I had max downforce on front and rear and tried to set up the suspension / driver aids for more oversteer and less understeer.

Challenge #3 is up, I decided to do a Dirt Challenge as there has not yet been one. I will talke submissions for Challenge #2 until tommorow around noon time EST.

Oil changes allowed for Challenge #3? Power does go down after you driving it for awhile....

Where do you get the rally car for 500,000? The only one I see in the subaru showroom is 750,000

Time PM'ed in.

What kinda hp level is your car at?

It was at 350hp after an oil change. I already test and tune cars (including this elise) on monaco, so this was a track and car that I had already had a head start on.

Time to see if I'm useless offroad. For clarification, which impreza rally car are we using?

Time to see if I'm useless offroad. For clarification, which impreza rally car are we using?
+1 IIRC they're at least two choices...

Yeah you can change the Oil, Maybe I made a mistake the price may be 750,000 cr. Its the Bugeye WRC car, I will check that out. Thanks

Yeah you can change the Oil, Maybe I made a mistake the price may be 750,000 cr. Its the Bugeye WRC car, I will check that out. Thanks
Looking at it right now, the '01 Bugeye WRC car cannot be purchased. Only the '03 Blobeye WRC car can be purchased for 750,000 credits.

as far as bugeyes go, there is the prototype and the rally car too. 4 choices overall, GC, bugeyes 2x, and 03.

We can only buy the '03 RC and the other's have to be won.

Yes its the only one you can buy, sorry about the confusion

So far the best I can do is in the 1.30.9xx area. I can see dropping another second if I can link everything together just right, but that is about it unless I can find somthing in the set up. So how far off the pace am I this week?

What kind of set-ups are people using for the suspension? I have no clue how to set-up a rally car...

1:32.xxx so far. That's the off the lot setup.

All I really did was mess with the compression and sways. the rest is basically stock suspension set up.

All I really did was mess with the compression and sways. the rest is basically stock suspension set up.
Thanks!

We can change the settings around?

Rules: Car must stay STOCK the way it came when purchased.

I took that as meaning we can't touch anything... :confused:

Anyway, got one of my time down to 1'29.xx but averaging 1'30.xx at the moment.

This challenge is a lot harder than the previous two...

As the car comes stock w/ an adj suspension, setting changes should be allowed. Personally, I haven't touched anything as I have no clue how to tune a car for gavel. :confused:

Im going by the definition of stock PARTS. I havent bought or changed any parts for the car but Ive change settings.

If those arent the intended rules then the OP needs to clarify.

1:32.xxx so far. That's the off the lot setup.
I right there as well. With an off-the-lot stock set-up, I ran a 1'32.8xx this weekend.

I ran a 1:30.840 after a few laps this morning. I haven't touched anything yet, but don't really know where to start. Too used to colin mcrae rally, having a hard time with GT4.

I right there as well. With an off-the-lot stock set-up, I ran a 1'32.8xx this weekend.

Well at least I know it's not my driving that's teh suck! I'm running those times pretty consistently (well, within .5 seconds). I guess if I tweak the settings I could possibly whittle those down. :banana:

Well at least I know it's not my driving that's teh suck! I'm running those times pretty consistently (well, within .5 seconds). I guess if I tweak the settings I could possibly whittle those down. :banana:
Some have gone 1'29 with an off-the-lot stock set-up, so I'm sure we're leaving 3+ seconds out there. I've only done 15 laps or so with the car, so I'm sure I'll go even faster once I do more laps and get more comfortable with the course.

Well I was feeling better about my times :(

Yeah this one is a lot harder than the previous two challenges. Just remember, try not to slide around too much. You're just losing time when you do.

Yeah this one is a lot harder than the previous two challenges. Just remember, try not to slide around too much. You're just losing time when you do.

But it's soooooo much fun!!! :lol:

Well I was feeling better about my times :(
Well I came home and raced a bit more and lowered my best to a 1'31.755. I was 0.946 ahead of my ghost on a later run, so I should *hopefully* be in the 1'30.xxx soon... :)

Well I came home and raced a bit more and lowered my best to a 1'31.755. I was 0.946 ahead of my ghost on a later run, so I should *hopefully* be in the 1'30.xxx soon... :)

Looks like I can pull some more out myself. I pulled a 1:31.239 this evening. So if I run more laps and actually tweak the car, I may get something out of this.

Looks like I can pull some more out myself. I pulled a 1:31.239 this evening. So if I run more laps and actually tweak the car, I may get something out of this.
Nice drop in time! :)

I worked at it a little more last night and turned a 1'30.1xx before going to bed. I've made no changes to the suspension or even torque distn on the car - just an oil change and turned all driver aids off (two things we've always been allowed to do).

I feel the car has a 1'28 in her as is. It's all about carrying speed through the turns and keeping the sliding down to a minimum.

I think driver aids are turned off automatically on rally courses, at least I have never seen the driver aid triangle light up.

I think driver aids are turned off automatically on rally courses, at least I have never seen the driver aid triangle light up.
Mine were on for some reason? :confused:

Either way, this challenge was based around the ruleset of MattDell's original challenges, and driver aids were always free to keep on or turn off.

Your settings will show that they're on, but if you watch while you're racing, you'll notice that they don't light up.

This is my new best - 1'29.468 (completely stock set-up):

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d14/Chiketkd/GT4%20Challenge/WRCTT1min29.jpg

Nice time Chiketkd. Need to run more laps on it myself, maybe tonight. My best so far is a 1'29.827.

Waiting for Challenge #2 results... :)

Nice time Chiketkd. Need to run more laps on it myself, maybe tonight. My best so far is a 1'29.827.

Waiting for Challenge #2 results... :)
Thanks! It took me a while but driving smoothly is the name of the game for this challenge - I'm sure and experienced GT4 rally racer will blow my time away though! :lol:

+1 I'm also looking forward to seeing NRTmotorsports update the standings after challenge #2. He also hasn't made a ruling on whether suspension changes are allowed or not. If they aren't, then the time I ran last night will be the time I submit Friday - it was a damn near perfect run for me. If changes are allowed, then I'll start adjusting my suspension and have at it again.

Hey Guys sorry I havent put up last weeks results yet, I have been without a computer since last saturday. Im awaiting a new hard drive to be installed, so hopfully tonight or tommorow, I should be back online, in the meatime I have been sneaking online at work. Everything should be updated by tommorow.

So what about adjusting suspensions?

So what about adjusting suspensions?
+1 Please make a decision on this...

Ok sorry for the confusion, yes I will allow any adjustments to the suspension. If anyone wasnt sure about this, and perhaps wanted some extra time I can extend this challenge a bit. Let me know if you have any other questions regarding the rules.

Thanks!

So that we can all be on the same page, this was posted on GTVault about suspension set-ups for Rally courses:

RALLY TUNING

These are theories for RALLY setups only.

Spring Rates

Needs to be low (~5-6kg/mm), to soak up the bumps on dirt. Have spring rates at high and you'll have one bouncy car everytime it goes over a small ripple on the dirt road. Increased ride height will compensate for the low sprig rates.

Ride Height

Needs to be high >140. Reason, on landing your jumps, it prevents bottoming out of the car. A higher ride height also compensates for lower spring rates by avoiding the car bottoming out.

Shocks

These needs to be even on Bound and Rebound. Too much Bound shocks and the tires, don't make contact to the ground as fast after compression. Too much Rebound and the car will bounce upon decompression of the shocks. Now adjust between front and rear for fine tuning of understeer/oversteer control. Softer shocks to remove understeer, stiffer shocks to induce more oversteer. I have slightly, slightly more rebound on front usually, to bring the tires back to the ground a bit quicker after compression of the shocks. Providing better tire contact to the ground and reducing understeer. Eg, front 5/ rear 7 on bounds, front 6 / rear 7 on rebounds.

Camber

To your liking. But too much camber stops the car from drifting properly and reduces your tire contact to the ground, ie, less grip. But no camber is also not good. Drifts will be a bit more difficult to control. Keep it between 2.0 and 4.0.

Toe

Now, I'm not sure how GT3/GT$ treats toe. But in the game, I think, negative front positive rear helps reduce understeer (in GT3 = -1.0 / 0.5 are good figures to start. Or in GT4 = -2/-1). And Negative rear positive front reduces oversteer (0.0 / -0.5 are good figures to start in GT3 and 0./-1 in GT4).

Stabilizers

These will help stabilise the car during drifts. But too much will cause the car to loose too much grip around corners. Have it at about 3 or 4. And remember that a lower value at front will help reduce understeer or likewise a higher value at rear will cause oversteer.

Brakes

To your liking. As long as it's not too high, that it causes lockup. Generally figures up to 12 should be enough in Rally.

LSD

As low as possible or none at all. You WANT the tires to spin, to give you controllable drifts in the dirt. Having LSD turned up will stop the tires slipping and you'll notice more understeer in a corner, especially in dirt.

ASM/TCS

Important, not! As above, you want to drift and you want your tires to slip. So TURN these off (ie 0) ! You might as well play an arcade game with these turned on. Only exception is TCS, which can be used on high powered cars to reduce wheel spin. But use it sparingly, or else it causes more understeer.

Gears

Have it on the lower end, that is, if using the auto gears, to the left. This gives more torque rather than high speed. In most rally courses, High speed is not where you gain time, it's around those slow 180degree turns. Higher torque will get you out of the turns fast. As a starting point, use an auto gear value 5 steps to the left of the default auto gear value.

Downforce

Yes, please. The more the better. However, keep it even at front and rear. Why? Too much rear downforce and you'll find the car's front flying up during a jump. Vice versa, for too much front downforce. During a jump it will go into the ground nose first. You want to land on four tires, not your bumper bars.

VCD

Preferably even to help control drifts. But in practice, I find lower VCD values (ie, more RWD) helps reduce understeer. For Rally, start at 30% and reduce slowly towards 10% to remove understeer as suited to your driving style.

There you all go. May you all go forth and produce awesome rally tunes. Disclaimer - of course, no two cars are the same or behave the same. The theory above is a good starting point. Finding the exact point of setup where the car behaves at it's best is a matter of trial and error and a lot of patience.

Good racing,
Fumes
http://www.gtvault.com/gt3/kb/f_fid::5/

Doesn't look like a huge improvement can be made over the default settings...

This is an awesome idea, GT4 is the best racing game I have played...I'll probably do some challenges in the summertime when I have more time. Good luck.

I lowered my best time to a 1'29.339 last night but didn't bother taking a pic as I was as much as 0.6 seconds ahead of my ghost on a later lap. Using the suspension settings in post #104 as a guide, the car seems to handle the corners slightly better - but they don't make a night and day difference.

I'm looking for a 1'28 then calling it quits for this week's challenge...

Challenge #2 results are up. I will update the standing momentarily.:)

1:29.577 was my best this afternoon with stock setup and no driver aids.

Challenge #3 is up, good luck. Save up your beans for next week. I got a good one in mind.

Challenge 3? Or is 4. Swiss Alps was what I have bin playing with for the last week as #3.

Challenge 3? Or is 4. Swiss Alps was what I have bin playing with for the last week as #3.
+1 I still have to submit my time for this week's rally stage.

Yup sorry Challenge #4 is up, ill get good at this someday:lol:

Yup sorry Challenge #4 is up, ill get good at this someday:lol:
And we have till mid-day tomorrow (Saturday) to submit our times for this week, correct?

time in and now to the next on.

If you have not tried my Ring challenge feel free to do so.

Just submitted my time as well...

I ended up changing the car back to stock just to see how it felt and I set my fastest time :lol:

Yeah I will take times for challenge #3 until this evening. I should be online later to put together the standings.

Initial testing says I hate this car. Why cant you change the spring rates on it?

Initial testing says I hate this car. Why cant you change the spring rates on it?
How can you not like a Honduh?! :huh: :p

I messed around with it a bit last night and turned a 1'28.8xx. Seems alright IMHO...

Why cant you change the spring rates on it?

Where'd you get that?

Rules: NO NITRIOUS!! Otherwise no Rules do what you have to do to go fast!

Say's you can do anything but nitrous in the rules.

PMed my time in.

Damn it, how did I miss this thread?

Where'd you get that?
Yeah, you are allowed to change springs, however, on this Honduh race car some items are unchangeable e.g. springs, spoiler, wheels, etc.

It kinda sucks. But it make sthe challenge more interesting at the same time. I lowered my time to a 1'28.4xx

Challenge #3 Results are up. Looks like JL05STI is running away with this. Next weeks challenge (challenge #5) will work a little different. All points awarded will be doubled, all I will say is that you will have 2 cars to choose from, to see what car you can make faster.

Challenge #3 Results are up. Looks like JL05STI is running away with this. Next weeks challenge (challenge #5) will work a little different. All points awarded will be doubled, all I will say is that you will have 2 cars to choose from, to see what car you can make faster.
Awesome. Yeah JL05STI is pretty darn fast...

Looking forward to next week's challenge - sounds like it'll be a blast. I really like the different types of cars you've used in this challenge - Z06, Elise, WRC Subaru and now a fwd Honda racer... :cool:

Where'd you get that?

Say's you can do anything but nitrous in the rules.

Thats nice and all but when I go to my suspension settings the spring section is blank and its already equiped with the full race suspension.

The car isnt horrible, I just think its too stiff.

So what kinda times are people turning at the Trial Mountain circuit?

Running mid 1'28s.

^Same here - tuning is everything with this car, and reducing front wheelspin seems to pay the biggest dividends...

My first laps with default setting are the low 1'28's. Have to find the good and bad points on the Honda before playing with them. First thing is this car brakes very well.

If you drivers would like to see a video of any of the challenge's run. Just let me know.

Just turned a 1'27.8xx. I'm with you jl05sti - the brakes on this car are amazing. The steering is also extremely quick and precise...

Edit - this is a pic of my current time:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d14/Chiketkd/GT4%20Challenge/HonduhTT1min27.jpg

I still feel there's another 1/2 second out there or more. Need to tune my set-up some more - front wheel spin is still too easy to come by.

My first laps with default setting are the low 1'28's. Have to find the good and bad points on the Honda before playing with them. First thing is this car brakes very well.
So what time are you down to now? :confused:

So what time are you down to now? :confused: I have had no time to get back to GT4. I will Wednesday.;)

I have had no time this week. I suck at FWD anyways lol.

I can't seem to get into a good rhythm with this car. It's very frustrating. My best so far is 1'28:3xx. But one lap I was almost one second better at the last checkpoint... until I hit the wall coming out of the last corner. Dropped my controller, shut off PS2, the TV, and cried. :furious:

I can't seem to get into a good rhythm with this car. It's very frustrating. My best so far is 1'28:3xx. But one lap I was almost one second better at the last checkpoint... until I hit the wall coming out of the last corner. Dropped my controller, shut off PS2, the TV, and cried. :furious:
I've done that many times as well. :rolleyes: I've since lowered the time I posted above to a mid 1'27. However, I've been as much as 0.5 seconds ahead of my ghost to end up putting the car into the wall right at the very end. :mad:

Oh well, jl05sti will show us what time is truly possible with this car on this track! :p

Just to be sure, the yellow lines are part of the track right?

Yeah as long as its pavement its all good

What the heck are you guys doing to get into the 1'27s, I did a 1'28:10 last night and I think that's the best I can do. And that's with tweaking the settings. :mad:

What the heck are you guys doing to get into the 1'27s, I did a 1'28:10 last night and I think that's the best I can do. And that's with tweaking the settings. :mad:
Tweak some more... ;)

*Hint* transmission gear ratios

I should have gotten into this. I haven't played GT4 in a long time...i'll probably be slow as hell starting off.

Play around some and now the the 27's. I was surprised by no adjustment for springs or bars.

I hate you guys. I'm getting no lower than 1'32 and I've tweaked everything.

Play around some and now the the 27's. I was surprised by no adjustment for springs or bars.
So what's your best time?

I haven't been putting a lot of time into these challenges, but I decided to put my best foot forward this week. I must have tried over 100 different suspension set-ups to try and extract the lowest possible time on this track and put in 15+ hours of PS2 time driving the car! :p

With all that said, my best currently stands at a 1'27.5xx and at the most, I'm leaving 0.2-0.3 seconds on the table with my current set-up.

Yeah I'm having no luck with this car. I've tweaked everything that can be twoked (I made that word up). Just not having any luck eliminating the understeer and accelerating quickly out of corners. My time for this is 1'28:100. Next challenge. Grrrrr :mad:

Yeah I'm having no luck with this car. I've tweaked everything that can be twoked (I made that word up). Just not having any luck eliminating the understeer and accelerating quickly out of corners. My time for this is 1'28:100. Next challenge. Grrrrr :mad:
I'd be happy to post my gearing and suspension settings...after this week's challenge is over. ;)

I will take submissions for the current challenge until early tommorow afternoon. I will have the next challenge up tonight. Remember points for the next challenge are DOUBLED and you will have 2 cars to choose from to see which one can get you the fastest time.

I will take submissions for the current challenge until early tommorow afternoon. I will have the next challenge up tonight. Remember points for the next challenge are DOUBLED and you will have 2 cars to choose from to see which one can get you the fastest time.
I'm looking forward to the next one! :cool:

So how did you do this week? You're always near the top in these challenges...

Im right around your time with a 127.6, so far I havent had a whole lot of time this week, but I plan to turn some laps tonight. I too and not having a whole lot of luck with this car.

Im embarassed to post my times from this car. Havent tried adjusting the tranny yet, but Im way off the pace.

Challenge #5 now up. Remember you have 2 Vehicles to choice from, so practice with both and when it comes time to submit your times dont forget to let me know what vehicle you were able to turn your fastest lap in. Both cars stock are identical in HP and very close in tourque, so it should make for a good challenge, also remember points awarded will be doubled, so everyone practice, practice if you wanna catch up to JL05STI he seems to be the man SO FAR.

Challenge #5 now up. Remember you have 2 Vehicles to choice from, so practice with both and when it comes time to submit your times dont forget to let me know what vehicle you were able to turn your fastest lap in. Both cars stock are identical in HP and very close in tourque, so it should make for a good challenge, also remember points awarded will be doubled, so everyone practice, practice if you wanna catch up to JL05STI he seems to be the man SO FAR.
Sweet. Looking forward to it.

I just submitted my time for Challenge #4. :cool:

Time is in now. Tried some things and found a nice set-up for this car. If you you drivers would like to try it I can post it.

I only got 3 submissions for challenge number 4. hopefully I will get a few more. I will give a little extra time.

I only got 3 submissions for challenge number 4. hopefully I will get a few more. I will give a little extra time.
I ran a 1:31.592 I didnt take a picture of it becuase it was pretty pathetic :lol: And Im never driving that car again.

I ran a 1:31.592 I didnt take a picture of it becuase it was pretty pathetic :lol: And Im never driving that car again.

Well I will add your time to the results anyway:cool:

Results and standings updated, looks like another win for JL05STI. Everyones got a chance to catch up this week. Hopefully everyone has some experience with these 2 cars.

This is the set-up I used on this Gathers Civic. If you would like to try it.

suspension
104/114
4/8
2/4
2.0/1.0
-1/0
diff
5/38/5
brakes
1/1
wings
13/18
trans
auto = 10 & final = 4.400
All dirving aids off

A little help for you all on challenge 5. For the STi used the standard diffs and For the center diff(VCD) you can used the standard or the mod one. For the EVO start with the AYC control diff. If not working for you used the STi's set-up.

Results and standings updated, looks like another win for JL05STI. Everyones got a chance to catch up this week. Hopefully everyone has some experience with these 2 cars.
Thanks for getting the results up so quickly. One request, in the overall standings, can you please correct my username to read Chiketkd and not Chicketkd. Thanks! :)

Sorry I keep making that mistake:lol:

Is it too early to ask what times are people churning out in this challenge?

I missed this last challenge completely. Oh well, finals are over wednesday. Then I can give this one a shot.

This is the set-up I used on this Gathers Civic. If you would like to try it.

suspension
104/114
4/8
2/4
2.0/1.0
-1/0
diff
5/38/5
brakes
1/1
wings
13/18
trans
auto = 10 & final = 4.400
All dirving aids off


Ah crap. With this set-up, I just ran a 1'26:696. Only took me <10 laps to get it. Son of a... need to work on setting up the car more.

Is it too early to ask what times are people churning out in this challenge?
At the Grand Valley Speedway, I did a few runs Saturday morning and turned a very dirty 1'43.0xx in the Evo.

I like the feel of the STi better, but with all possible mods on both cars, the Evo makes 30hp more and weighs 30kg lighter than the STi - theres no choice as to which car would be faster! :p

Geez, where are you guys finding these extra 4 seconds? I was happy with a 1'47. I'm thinking its driver error rather than the cars, my cornering sucks.

Geez, where are you guys finding these extra 4 seconds? I was happy with a 1'47. I'm thinking its driver error rather than the cars, my cornering sucks.
I turned a 1'45 in the underpowered and overweight STi! :lol:

Seriously, there's a lot of time out there. Just dial out the push and make the car as neutral as possible in the turns.

Ok my settings are as follows in the Subaru:
Original Turbo (520HP/506FT/LBS TQ)
Brake Bias 24F/22R (you read that right).
Driving Aids OFF
Gears auto=11 w/final 3.900 (I think I could go a little wider with 6th).
Suspension:
SR 6.4F/5.2R
RH 116F/118R
Shock Bound 6F/6R
Shock Rebound 8F/8R
Camber 2.0F/1.0R
Toe 0/0
Stabilizers 4/4
Default Diff
Default VCD

Time thus far:
1:49.770 That's my fastest. I was at 1:50.xxx then I changed my brake bias from12/11 to 24/22 (That was the only change).

So my question is, Is it me that's teh suck, or is it my set-up? :confused:

^Stiffen your spring rates up to at least 12F/10R, lower your ride height, add much more front -ve camber (at least 4.5) and try the course again. ;)

Those settings should start moving you in the right direction.

I just dropped my time into the 1'42.xxx

So jl05sti and NRTmotorsports, what kinda times are you guys turning?

im gonna go play right now, times to come

meh I can't play at the moment. I'm stuck at work and bored outta my skull. I'll give those settings a try tomorrow. Hopefully I can turn some faster times.

Played about an hour last night with the Evo. Best time of 1'43.5xx. Once I get more familiar with the course, I should be able to lower my time.

Played about an hour last night with the Evo. Best time of 1'43.5xx. Once I get more familiar with the course, I should be able to lower my time.
Not a bad time after playing for an hour or so. I'm into the mid 1'42 range now.

How is it that I suck more and more each week?

How is it that I suck more and more each week?

If it makes you feel better you could alway's poke fun at my times. 1:49.081 in the Evo. I'm teh suck.

I think my best is in the 1:47s with the evo. I cant even guess where I am supposed to find 5 seconds.

Did you set your downforce to max setting? I ran the first few laps with zero downforce and got times in the 1'49 - 1'50 range. I then set downforce to max and ran in the 1'46 - 1'47 range. Started playing around with suspension settings and got it down to a best of 1'43:5xx. This was all with zero drivers aid and transmission auto setting of twelve.

Did you set your downforce to max setting? I ran the first few laps with zero downforce and got times in the 1'49 - 1'50 range. I then set downforce to max and ran in the 1'46 - 1'47 range. Started playing around with suspension settings and got it down to a best of 1'43:5xx. This was all with zero drivers aid and transmission auto setting of twelve.


Is this on the Scoob?

Did you set your downforce to max setting? I ran the first few laps with zero downforce and got times in the 1'49 - 1'50 range. I then set downforce to max and ran in the 1'46 - 1'47 range. Started playing around with suspension settings and got it down to a best of 1'43:5xx. This was all with zero drivers aid and transmission auto setting of twelve.
Max downforce took off 3 seconds for me, unfortunately I was runnin 1:50s before. I can not find a set up that does anything but understeer why im on throttle. I have some wicked off throttle oversteer though.

Edit: I still cant set up a car but using the drivers aids to do what I cant I got down to a 1:44.991

Edit: I still cant set up a car but using the drivers aids to do what I cant I got down to a 1:44.991
That's a nice improvement in your time!

i'm not in the challenge, but just out of curiosity, are you guys running the upgraded VCD? if so, what settings are you guys running?

with the 50/50 split both cars push hard when exiting corners under full throttle...I've been using a 35/65 split and it seems to hold my exit line much better

I'm gonna try the max downforce next and stiffen up my spring rates and add more (-)camber, right now around 8f/6r and running 1:46.xxx's with both cars

I also need to mess around with diff settings under deceleration, turn #1 is pretty sketchy coming down from ~165-170mph, lost control a couple of times and ended up in the sand trap!

i'm not in the challenge, but just out of curiosity, are you guys running the upgraded VCD? if so, what settings are you guys running?

with the 50/50 split both cars push hard when exiting corners under full throttle...I've been using a 35/65 split and it seems to hold my exit line much better

I'm gonna try the max downforce next and stiffen up my spring rates and add more (-)camber, right now around 8f/6r and running 1:46.xxx's with both cars

I also need to mess around with diff settings under deceleration, turn #1 is pretty sketchy coming down from ~165-170mph, lost control a couple of times and ended up in the sand trap!
It's never too late to join the challenge - you should submit your time this week. FWIW, I use a VCD torque split of either 20/80 or 25/75 with the Evo.

It's never too late to join the challenge - you should submit your time this week. FWIW, I use a VCD torque split of either 20/80 or 25/75 with the Evo.

I missed the first four challenges, so I figured was a little too late to join, but I'll submit my times just for the hell of it

I'll try those settings on the VCD

My guess now is, since I will submit my times for this week, I' won't be getting any more tips until the challenge is over with!!! ;)

I missed the first four challenges, so I figured was a little too late to join, but I'll submit my times just for the hell of it

I'll try those settings on the VCD

My guess now is, since I will submit my times for this week, I' won't be getting any more tips until the challenge is over with!!! ;)
Feel free to ask - I promise not to lead you astray! :p

Are you guys using and aftermarket wing for your cars? I'm using the stock wing with no downforce adjustment, maybe that's the reason for my bad time?

Yes, buy yourself a wing. Downforce helps a lot.

Down to the 1'42:xxx range now. Will spend only a couple of more hours on it and that's it.

Down to the 1'42:xxx range now. Will spend only a couple of more hours on it and that's it.
A 1'42.9 or a 1'42.0? :p

I'm at a mid 1'42 but I may not have time to race anymore. I have an autoX Saturday, so I'll have to hit the sack ealry tonight (will submit my time when I get home today).

1'42:665 :p .

Hopefully I can get it down a few tenths more. It's really frustrating driving this particular car with the controller. I keep losing a few hundredths here and there at the corners, cause I can't get the proper steering angle the first time. I usually don't have this problem with other cars but man, I'm having issues entering the corners cleanly. But then again, I've never had to push myself this much when racing the computer! :D .

1'44.295 is the best I could do

staying smooth is the hardest part of fast lap times, I tend to over brake and end up well below my intended entry speed which in turn screws everything up, entry/apex/exit

am I the only person using the regular PS2 controller? its really hard to be smooth and maintain speed

1'42:665 :pWow. I'm at a 1'42.6 as well. Not sure of my exact time as I ran the time 2-3 days ago (saved my replay/ghost).

1'44.295 is the best I could do

staying smooth is the hardest part of fast lap times, I tend to over brake and end up well below my intended entry speed which in turn screws everything up, entry/apex/exit

am I the only person using the regular PS2 controller? its really hard to be smooth and maintain speed

Two weeks in a row now I missed the challenge :furious:! When I get time to play again, I will still be using the ps2 controller with the D-pad.

Ok I got Challenge #6 posted. I will call this the last challenge in this tournament, UNLESS EVERYONE IS HAVING FUN WITH THIS, then I will keep the challenges coming. SO let me know what you think about that. ANyway I decided to let you pick whatever car you want for this challange, you just need to be able to buy the car at the showroom, so no using cars that you have won. F1 car is not legal in this challenge and car along that line, if you can pay for it then its legal. Person with the fastest time wins, thought this should be a fun one.

1'42:665 :p
I checked my time when I got home and it's a 1'42.649. So we're virtually in a dead heat... :)
Ok I got Challenge #6 posted. I will call this the last challenge in this tournament, UNLESS EVERYONE IS HAVING FUN WITH THIS, then I will keep the challenges coming. SO let me know what you think about that. ANyway I decided to let you pick whatever car you want for this challange, you just need to be able to buy the car at the showroom, so no using cars that you have won. F1 car is not legal in this challenge and car along that line, if you can pay for it then its legal. Person with the fastest time wins, thought this should be a fun one.
Please keep these challenges coming! Maybe we can call this the Spring GT4 Tounament and have it run for a total of 10 challenges. Then over the summer, we can do another 10 challenge tournament! :devil:

ANyway I decided to let you pick whatever car you want for this challange, you just need to be able to buy the car at the showroom, so no using cars that you have won.
This rule could be problematic for some. For example, I've completed 94% of the game and I can purchase cars such as the Corvette C5R, Mazda 787B, etc. I'm not sure if someone who's completed 5% of the game will be able to purchase these same cars? :confused:

If everyone can purchase the cars I just listed, then let Challenge #6 begin! :devil:

PMed you my time.

Sorry Chiketkd, I improved my time this afternoon. :p

NRTmotorsports, you might have to pick the car to use. Or for example, limit it to say 1980s American cars only, etc. Sort of how some of the races have restrictions on year, model, etc.

My time is in. Did not have alot of time this weeks challenge.
Looks like the real fast stuff is on tap for this week.
I'm not a fan of this track at all.

This rule could be problematic for some. For example, I've completed 94% of the game and I can purchase cars such as the Corvette C5R, Mazda 787B, etc. I'm not sure if someone who's completed 5% of the game will be able to purchase these same cars? :confused:

If everyone can purchase the cars I just listed, then let Challenge #6 begin! :devil:
i approve of rules that would favor those who have finished more of the game.

/me spent hundreds of hours getting to 100.0%... yes, driving mission 34 almost was the death of me.

i'll join in for a summer challenge, but just had my wheel and ps2 shipped out to me after stashing it away for some months so won't jump in late on the spring challenge game. or maybe i'll just run #6 for fun... :D hmm

I just submitted my time. Off to bed.

i approve of rules that would favor those who have finished more of the game.

/me spent hundreds of hours getting to 100.0%... yes, driving mission 34 almost was the death of me.

i'll join in for a summer challenge, but just had my wheel and ps2 shipped out to me after stashing it away for some months so won't jump in late on the spring challenge game. or maybe i'll just run #6 for fun... :D hmm

Lucky... the Mercedes SLR at the 'ring is the only one I haven't beaten yet. I have no patience to wait the two minutes in the beginning. :furious:

Yeah I didnt think that more completion in the game means more cars you have access to. So Im cancelling that idea and will come up with something better, just give me a few minutes and I will repost.

OK everyone, I changed this weeks challenge a bit. I have posted one car only. Sorry about the confusion. So I run this tournament for 10 challenges if everyone is showing interest. Good Luck

OK everyone, I changed this weeks challenge a bit. I have posted one car only. Sorry about the confusion. So I run this tournament for 10 challenges if everyone is showing interest. Good Luck
Awesome! A 10 challenge tournament sounds good to me! :cool:

Well after 10 laps Im in the 1:34xxs with some light wall contact. Im guessing people will be well into the 1:2xs

BTW whats the rule on walls, does the lap have to be completely wall free or are light taps acceptable?

I just ran a lazy 1'27.2xx with two beers in me. No wall contact and I feel I'll drop at least another 2-3 seconds by the end of the week.

My 'hunch' is that light wall contact should be allowed especially on a city course like this where walls are the boundaries of the course.

everyone running the stage 3 turbo setup?

my best time for tonight was 1'31.6xx". looks like i need to find some time and/or figure out how to set up the car :D

everyone running the stage 3 turbo setup?

my best time for tonight was 1'31.6xx". looks like i need to find some time and/or figure out how to set up the car :D
Make sure downforce is maxed out and add more front -ve camber for starters...

Make sure downforce is maxed out and add more front -ve camber for starters...
already done, and i started with -3.5, to stay within what i consider sane coming from an autox perspective...

Got down to 1:30.2 but im braking to much in a few places and still cant figure out that first 2nd gear turn.

Yeah light wall contact is fine, its tough not to kiss it at least once. Im gonna put together last weeks results.

Got the standings updated. Another win by Jl05STI, I got close to his time, but somebody needs to beat his time even if its once:lol: Maybe I need to change things up a bit:confused: :lol:

I think you made a mistake in the results. They say Jl05 won but you have the better time.

oops typo, I ran a 142.101 not 141. Thanks for picking that up.

Carp! I forgot about sending my time in(not that it mattered because it was the suck). I'll start on this course tomorrow when I'm not working. Working teh weekend is teh suck.

After a half hour, I ran a 1:26.088.

Started this challenge this afternoon played for about a half hour, best thus far 125.400, time to start tweaking.

^ I just played for a 1/2 hour this afternoon and turned a 1'25.3xx - I should be into the 1'24 range soon.

I ran this time tapping the wall twice on my exit from two corners (compromised my exit speed):

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d14/Chiketkd/GT4%20Challenge/BMW320i1min24.jpg

I'm definitely leaving time on the table and 'should' be in the 1:23's this week...

You did that with 256hp? What is that like a stage 2 turbo?

You did that with 256hp? What is that like a stage 2 turbo?
I did that with the largest turbo you can get for the car - lots of lag but I re-geared the trans so the revs don't fall off much between shifts. I think the car is making 484hp IIRC...

You did that with 256hp? What is that like a stage 2 turbo?

Remember, GT4 doesn't show modded HP for some reason when you're in that view.

Oh never noticed.

Got down to 1:30.2 but im braking to much in a few places and still cant figure out that first 2nd gear turn.
the first 2nd gear turn, after the wavy bit right off the start? first off, with the proper gearing and line it should be a 3rd gear turn. second, drive the mild R turn before it and it (the L with the jog) as one sweep. sacrifice entry speed on the first R hander to stay closer to the R wall and then set yourself up to jet through the now-straightened chicane.
I did that with the largest turbo you can get for the car - lots of lag but I re-geared the trans so the revs don't fall off much between shifts. I think the car is making 484hp IIRC...
ah, this was my problem. i was using the stage 3, mistakenly thinking that lag would be too much of an issue. stage 4 + auto gear ratios set at 8 or something like that does the trick. :D

current time 1'24.639".

incidentally, i picked up a component video cable for my ps2 along with some female-female RCA adapters so that i can hook up the sound, and it looks fabulous at HD. aliased and pixelated? yeah, sure, but it's still worlds better than standard resolution.

:banana:

1'24.193", with photos on my memory card if need be. there is surely more time to be gained in setup, but i'm not sure if i'm reliable enough of a driver to tease apart a good run vs. a good car. :D

the first 2nd gear turn, after the wavy bit right off the start? first off, with the proper gearing and line it should be a 3rd gear turn. second, drive the mild R turn before it and it (the L with the jog) as one sweep. sacrifice entry speed on the first R hander to stay closer to the R wall and then set yourself up to jet through the now-straightened chicane.


I meant the hard right along the coast line after the chicane.

ah, that one. i have to admit that i wallride it a bit before getting on the brakes and cutting in. it feels slow on the exit no matter which way i do it.

1'23.811". i left a couple of tenths behind on the front side for sure, but i'm pretty happy with the lap overall. in the 23s! woohoo.

for now i am blaming the car, and my lack of ability to set it up lol. I'd like to see a stock car settings challenge soon.

for now i am blaming the car, and my lack of ability to set it up lol. I'd like to see a stock car settings challenge soon.
i make no bones about my setup being optimal, but it's easy to duplicate at least:

stage 4 turbo
super soft tires
suspension at stock settings except for -4.5/-2.8 camber
gearbox at auto: 5
brakes at 24:16

Was about to get out of the 26s and clipped the last wall going before the finish :mad:
At least Im only 2.5 secs back now.

Finally done with school and played about an hour today. In the 1'24.8xx now. Hopefully I can get it down to the 1'23 soon.

1'23.811". i left a couple of tenths behind on the front side for sure, but i'm pretty happy with the lap overall. in the 23s! woohoo.
There's a lot more time to be had out there. I shed time tonight like a dog sheds hair...new best of 1'22.841.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d14/Chiketkd/GT4%20Challenge/BMW320iTT1min22.jpg

In all honesty, that run felt horrible and very slow in many places. A 1'21 should be possible with my current set-up. I *shudder* to think of the time jl05sti will turn on this course... :eek:

grr. oh well, i'll settle for 2nd. or 3rd. :D if i get bumped down further than that i'll put the gloves back on.

grr. oh well, i'll settle for 2nd. or 3rd. :D if i get bumped down further than that i'll put the gloves back on.
Have at it some more, b/c I'm sure everyones times will drop the more they run this course. I found that while set-up is important, your driving line is even more important. You have to drive this course as if you were doing an autoX - slow in, fast out.

Have at it some more, b/c I'm sure everyones times will drop the more they run this course. I found that while set-up is important, your driving line is even more important. You have to drive this course as if you were doing an autoX - slow in, fast out.
maybe i will for the next challenge, but this course is frustrating in that a small error sending you wide can send you right into a curb or a barrier that stops you dead. after that happens i usually just exit out and start a new lap. while i exhibited unusual perserverence when slaying the beast of driving mission 34 i'm content with being an also-ran that's not too far off the pace on this course. :D

maybe i will for the next challenge, but this course is frustrating in that a small error sending you wide can send you right into a curb or a barrier that stops you dead. after that happens i usually just exit out and start a new lap. while i exhibited unusual perserverence when slaying the beast of driving mission 34 i'm content with being an also-ran that's not too far off the pace on this course. :D
Gotcha. Do understand that the 'pace' hasn't been established yet and I'm not the best indicator. In the 5 challenges completed thus far, I've finished 5th twice, 4th once and 3rd twice. :p

Hopefully Dogbert2, NRTmotorsports or jl05sti will be able to chime in with their current fast times. :alien:

1:28 so far, I've been whittling it down(started in the 1:32s), Just gotta keep tweaking my settings because I'm running fairly clean laps, I'm just not coming out fast enough. I've got my auto gearing set to 7 with 5th widened out a little(just a couple of tics). 6/8F bound and rebound 7/8R bound and rebound. -3.5F/-1.0R camber. Don't recall the rest of my suspension settings. Brakes are 13F/12R(might change that). I turned off the driving aids.

I turned off my ghost and got a second quicker. I get too competitive with the ghost on.

Just ran a 123.578, I believe I can be in the 22's by friday, need to tweak the gear ratios

I'm in the 23.6xx so far and still not a fan of this track. I'm with you NRT on a 22 run being made.

I'm in the 23.6xx so far and still not a fan of this track. I'm with you NRT on a 22 run being made.
Wow. I didn't realize my lack-luster 1'22.8 would be the current fast time. I guess I'll try to shoot for a 1'21. While this track is different, I feel right at home in the tight stuff as it feels like an autoX course.

I turned off my ghost and got a second quicker. I get too competitive with the ghost on.
how do you turn off the ghost? i'd definitely like to do this, too.

/me doesn't have the manual handy (1500 miles away)

for now i am blaming the car, and my lack of ability to set it up lol. I'd like to see a stock car settings challenge soon.

Might be proof positive if it's me or my settings that are the suck! :lol:

My PB is a 1:22.934 but i don't have 8 legit posts yet so i cant post a pic.

Lowered my best slightly. I still haven't put together a lap that feels 'good' throughout - 1'22.655:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d14/Chiketkd/GT4%20Challenge/BMW320iTT1min22-1.jpg

I would love to participate

Lowered my best slightly. I still haven't put together a lap that feels 'good' throughout - 1'22.655:
ah, you've got me by a hair: i lied and went back and played some more :D

1'22.708". wasn't a good feeling run, either, as the front side was a super slow 32.9xx. oh well.

http://tjclark.ath.cx/images/miscellaneous/desktop%20pics%20and%20screenshots/1.22.708.jpg

how do you turn off the ghost? i'd definitely like to do this, too.

/me doesn't have the manual handy (1500 miles away)

It's up on the directional pad, for both wheel and controller.

ah, you've got me by a hair: i lied and went back and played some more :D

1'22.708". wasn't a good feeling run, either, as the front side was a super slow 32.9xx. oh well.
Good. Glad to see you went back at it. I'll try my hand again at the course either tonight or tomorrow. I've been as much as 0.9 seconds ahead of my ghost back when my best was a 1'22.8. So I'm +ve a 1'21 could be had if I run a decent lap throughout.

jl05sti, what are you down to now?

Played a bit more last night, down to 1'23.2xx.