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Turn in Concepts 10-01-2007, 10:11 AM The Subaru shifter has shifter bushings that are just too soft for the way the car is meant to feel. These bushings, when new, suck, and when old, really really suck.
Turn In Concepts can help you fix that "stirring a spoon in pudding" feel in your shifter. Turn In Concepts also realizes that things can get quite confusing when talking about all these bushings and levers. Therefore, here's a little chart to help you understand what fits your car.
http://turninconcepts.com/forums/shifter_fitment/shifter_fitment.jpg
Turn in Concepts 10-01-2007, 10:13 AM Let's start at the left of the chart and work our way across for parts.
Front stay bushing:
This is the bushing that attaches the stay arm to the bracket located on the transmission. This is a relatively large bushing, and the factory one is a disturbingly soft rubber. The result of using this soft rubber is a mushy, detached feel when you slide the lever home into each gear.
What you need is positive engagement to let you know that you have confidently slid the shifter into gear. This helps that need. Afterall, your eyes should be on the road, not looking down at the lever to see if it's in gear.
Kartboy 5MT front shifter stay bushing - $30 and shipping in the US is free from Turn In Concepts
Click here to purchase your 5MT front shifter stay bushing from TiC (http://www.turninconcepts.com/product_info.php?products_id=15)
Kartboy 6MT front shifter stay bushing - $32 and shipping is free in the US from Turn In Concepts
Click here to purchase your Kartboy 6MT front shifter stay bushing from TiC (http://www.turninconcepts.com/product_info.php?products_id=378)
Kartboy 5MT front shifter stay bushing:
http://www.turninconcepts.com/images/KB-003_big.jpg
Kartboy 6MT front shifter stay bushing:
http://www.turninconcepts.com/images/kbu-018_big.jpg
Turn in Concepts 10-01-2007, 10:15 AM Rear stay bushing:
This is for Subaru owners looking for just a little bit more feel in the forward and back motion on the stick. The Kartboy Rear shifter stay bushing, available through Turn In Concepts, removes the last rubber bushing in the shifter stay assembly to really tighten things up, and make the shifter feel great.
Kartboy rear shifter stay bushing is $35 from Turn In Concepts and that includes shipping in the US.
To get your Kartboy rear shifter stay bushing from Turn In Concepts click here. (http://www.turninconcepts.com/product_info.php?products_id=9)
Kartboy rear shifter stay bushing:
http://www.turninconcepts.com/images/KB_rear_shifter_stay_large.jpg
Turn in Concepts 10-01-2007, 10:15 AM Linkage update and linkage bushings:
The Subaru linkage bushings may feel fine coming from the factory, but Turn In Concepts has to wonder how much long term testing Subaru did on these. Over time the factory bushings allow so much play in the linkage joint that the shift lever just flops from side to side. Even with the stick in gear. This leads to missed shifts, difficulty finding gears, and really hurts the feel of quality in your car. You can improve this feel in quality with one of the Turn In Concepts linkage kits.
The reason for the three kits is these:
The older linkage is held together by a rivet. This makes half the joint unservicable and you cannot upgrade those bushings easily. By replacing it with the Turn In Concepts shift linkage update you get the new, servicable, linkage and upgraded bushings to help with the feel of the lever. Additionally, you will also get a custom made connector bolt so you do not have to spend money to replace the control arm in your old shifter assembly.
The 2004 and 2005 STi use a linkage bushing size that is not used on any other Subaru models. This required a different bushing than all the others. In fact, this is the part that got Turn In Concepts started.
In 2006 Subaru changed to a common bushing in all the linkages. While the 5MT and 6MT linkages are still different in the trunnion offset, the bushings are now the same. By making the 2006+ linkage bushings Turn In Concepts is now able to cover both 5MT and 6MT linkages with one style of bushing.
TiC linkage update - $80 shipped in the US from Turn In Concepts:
Click here to purchase your linkage update from Turn In Concepts. (http://www.turninconcepts.com/product_info.php?products_id=357)
TiC 2004 & 2005 STi 6MT linkage bushings - $30 from Turn In Concepts and shipping in the US is free:
Click here to purchase your 2004 & 2005 STi 6MT linkage bushings from Turn In Concepts (http://www.turninconcepts.com/product_info.php?products_id=2)
TiC 2006+ shift linkage bushings - $30 shipped in the US from Turn In Concepts:
Click here to purchase your 2006+ shift linkage bushings from Turn In Concepts (http://www.turninconcepts.com/product_info.php?products_id=81)
Turn In Concepts linkage update:
http://www.turninconcepts.com/images/tic_old_5mt_upd_1_big.jpg
Turn In Concepts 2004 & 2005 STi linkage bushings:
http://www.turninconcepts.com/images/large_bushings_1.jpg
Turn In Concepts 2006+ linkage bushings:
http://www.turninconcepts.com/images/06_slb_big.jpg
Turn in Concepts 10-01-2007, 10:17 AM Pivot bushings:
There are bushings in the actual shift lever. They're where the control arm attaches to the lever. Turn In Concepts calls that the shifter pivot. Like all the bushings in the shifter assembly the factory pivot bushings just don't hold up after long term use. Turn In Concepts realized this, and came up with the TiC pivot bushings for your car. Made from urethane, and specified to be stiffer than the stock bushings, the Turn In Concepts pivot bushings will improve the feel of your shifter and last much longer than the stock pieces.
These bushings are INCREDIBLY easy to install, and for the price of just under $20 they are affordable on any budget. Installation takes just a few minutes, and the end result is well worth more than the price to get them.
There are three versions of the bushings, and here's how they break down:
Narrow - These are for the Subaru owner who has the 1997-2001 5MT lever. The folks that fall into this group are the 1997-2001 Impreza owners. Additionally, the folks with a 2002+ car that has the SPT factory optional short shifter will need the narrow version.
Wide - These are for the 2002+ Subaru owner. They are slightly wider than the narrow version to account for the change that Subaru made to the width of the shift lever pivot.
6MT - These are for the Subaru owners with a 6MT transmission. Subaru used a different width and diameter pivot on the 6MT lever so the bushings had to be made specifically for this application.
All versions of the TiC pivot bushings are $19.37 shipped in the US.
To purchase use one of the links below:
To purchase the Turn In Concepts Narrow pivot bushings click here. (http://www.turninconcepts.com/product_info.php?products_id=90)
To purchase the Turn In Concepts Wide pivot bushings click here.
(http://www.turninconcepts.com/product_info.php?products_id=89)
To purchase the Turn In Concepts 6MT pivot bushings click here. (http://www.turninconcepts.com/product_info.php?products_id=130)
TiC Narrow pivot bushings:
http://www.turninconcepts.com/images/5mt_pivot_N_1_big.jpg
TiC Wide pivot bushings:
http://www.turninconcepts.com/images/tic_5mt_pw_1_big.jpg
TiC 6MT pivot bushings:
http://www.turninconcepts.com/images/6mt_pivot2_big.jpg
Turn in Concepts 10-01-2007, 10:17 AM Transmission crossmember bushings:
Hopefully you're beginning to see a pattern here. The stock Subaru bushings are too soft, and just don't hold up over time. Turn In Concepts saw the pattern. So did others. In fact, the transmission crossmember bushings are quickly becoming a popular change to make to the car. Afterall, who needs their transmission flopping about when all you really want to do is enjoy your car?
Now, there are other crossmember bushings on the market. The Turn In Concepts transmission crossmember bushings are better.
The Turn In Concepts tranny crossmember bushings cost less than others.
The Turn In Concepts tranny crossmember bushings feature a design that doesn't require any cutting or trimming.
The Turn In Concepts tranny crossmember bushings are STi Cherry Blossom Red.
These are a very easy install if you are already under the car to install the Kartboy front shifter stay bushing, the Kartboy rear shifter stay bushing, the Turn In Concepts linkage update or the Turn In Concepts linkage bushings. Heck, the Turn In Concepts tranny crossmember bushings are easy to install if you just happen to be under your car working on something else.
The Turn In Concepts tranny crossmember bushings ship in the US for $30.
To order your Turn In Concepts tranny crossmember bushings just click here. (http://www.turninconcepts.com/product_info.php?products_id=310)
Turn In Concepts tranny crossmember bushings:
http://www.turninconcepts.com/images/moo-007_1_big.jpg
Turn in Concepts 10-01-2007, 10:18 AM Shift Levers:
One of the most common, and first modifications that is made to Subarus is a lever with a shorter throw. With over 11,000 Kartboy levers sold there is no argument that when it comes to Subaru short throw levers Kartboy is king, and Turn In Concepts your best source for Kartboy brand products.
All Kartboy made in the USA levers are producted from CNC machined 4130 cro-moly steel parts that are precision jigged and TIG welded. They feature roughly a 40% reduction in throw length versus the stock levers. With the Kartboy levers available through TiC the shift knob will sit about 1" shorter than stock putting the knob at an idea height for comfort and drivability.
Kartboy 1997-2001 5MT lever is $100 shipped for free in the US.
To purchase this the 1997-2001 5MT lever from Turn In Concepts click here. (http://www.turninconcepts.com/product_info.php?products_id=35)
Kartboy 2002-2007 5MT lever is $100 and shipping is included.
To purchase your 2002-2007 5MT lever from Turn In Concepts click here. (http://www.turninconcepts.com/product_info.php?products_id=36)
Kartboy Impreza 6MT lever is $150 shipped in the US.
To purchase your Impreza 6MT lever from Turn In Concepts click here. (http://www.turninconcepts.com/product_info.php?products_id=406)
Kartboy 1997-2001 5MT lever from Turn In Concepts:
http://www.turninconcepts.com/images/KB-001-1997_big.jpg
Kartboy 2002-2007 5MT lever from Turn In Concepts:
http://www.turninconcepts.com/images/KB-001-2002_big.jpg
Kartboy STi 6MT lever from Turn In Concepts:
http://www.turninconcepts.com/images/kb_imp_6mt_big.jpg
Turn in Concepts 10-01-2007, 10:19 AM Now on to some suspension and driveline parts....
Turn in Concepts 10-01-2007, 10:23 AM Endlinks:
Turn In Concepts stocks the Kartboy brand endlinks. They are of extremely high quality, and the support offered by Kartboy and Turn In Concepts, your official Kartboy distributor, is second to none.
Endlinks connect a component of the suspension to the anti-roll bar (aka swaybar). The purpose of the bar is to control body roll, and in the case of the front bar to control camber loss during a turn. In order for the anti-roll bar to be most effective it must be able to twist. Afterall, it is a torsion spring. Any slack or play in the system connecting the moving suspenion component to the bar or the bar to the chassis lessens the effectiveness.
The stock endlinks lessen the effectiveness of the anti-roll bar by being flexible. The more they flex the less energy is transferred to the bar. The less energy that's transferred to the bar the less effective the performance.
So, one of the first, most simple, most cost effective modifications you can do to your car to make it handle better is to buy the Kartboy brand endlinks from Turn In Concepts.
There are WRX and RS rear "C" shaped endlinks available for $100 shipped in the US from Turn In Concepts at this link -> Turn In Concepts link to Kartboy WRX and RS rear endlinks (http://turninconcepts10.chainreactionweb.com/product_info.php?products_id=51)
There are STi rear endlinks available for $100 shipped in the US from Turn In Concepts at this link -> Turn In Concepts link to Kartboy STi rear endlinks (http://turninconcepts10.chainreactionweb.com/product_info.php?products_id=79)
There are Impreza Sedan front endlinks available for $100 shipped in the US from Turn In Concepts at this link - > Turn In Concepts link to Kartboy Sedan front endlinks. (http://turninconcepts10.chainreactionweb.com/product_info.php?products_id=115)
There is a WRX and RS Sedan front and rear endlink combo package for $180 shipped in the US from Turn In Concepts at this link -> Turn In Concepts link to Kartboy WRX and RS sedan endlink combo. (http://turninconcepts10.chainreactionweb.com/product_info.php?products_id=116)
There is an STi front and rear endlink combo package for $180 shipped in the US from Turn In Concepts at this link -> Turn In Concepts link to Kartboy STi endlink combo. (http://turninconcepts10.chainreactionweb.com/product_info.php?products_id=117)
http://turninconcepts10.chainreactionweb.com/images/all_kb_links_big.jpg
Turn in Concepts 10-01-2007, 10:23 AM Rear Anti-rollbar:
Anti-rollbar, rollbar, anti-swaybar, swaybar - Technically all the same thing. Sure the ones missing the "anti" are misnomers, but it's becoming more accepted to refer to them with out the "anti." Afterall, think of all the electrons wasted just typing that over and over.
Turn In Concepts carries, and stocks Whiteline brand anti-rollbars, rollbars, anti-swaybars, swaybars. Turn In Concepts is happy with the brand, happy with the support, and happy with the performance increases that Whiteline's bars provide. Turn In Concepts uses Whiteline bars exclusively on their own cars because Turn In Concepts puts performance before any useless or sub-performing crap.
An anti-rollbar is simply another form of spring. It's just not coiled up like a slinky or the springs that go with your dampers. Instead an anti-rollbar gets its "springiness" by torsion (twisting). This force is applied from the suspension components that move (lateral links, control arms), through the endlinks (see above) to the bar. This twisting basically provides a force downward on the corner that is compressed or loaded through a turn. This downward force or resistance is what helps to lessen the body roll of the car in a turn.
In the case of the rear bar this has the affect of allowing the rear of the car to rotate around a center point (apex of the turn) more easily as it resists weight transfer allowing the tires to "slide" out in the back. The weight will still transfer, but it will take longer, and the back of the car will not lean as much.
Anti-rollbars come in two flavors, hollow and solid. Hollow bars are nice for the weight savings they provide, BUT they must also be larger to have the same effective "spring" as a solid bar. This starts to become a concern with larger bars due to the mounting capacity of the chassis mounts and just how big a bar they can accommodate. Additionally, we here at Turn In Concepts have yet to see a proper hollow bar. A proper hollow bar should be polished inside. Without that polishing the inside is rough, and at every rough spot stress is increased. This will eventually compromise the integrity of the bar. Additionally, many hollow bars are not made properly to seal against moisture. The inside of hollow bars can rust, and just like polishing, Turn In Concepts has yet to see a hollow bar with anti-rust treatment on the inside. This rust will create rough spots on the inside which just like the lack of polishing will compromise the integrity of the bar. Whiteline bars are solid. While they may weigh a little more than a hollow bar they will be just as stiff with a smaller diameter, and do not have the interior problems of a hollow bar.
Turn In Concepts carries the Whiteline bars because of performance, longevity, support, and function.
Do not discount the simplicity of this device when it comes to handling. Despite how easily it works an anti-rollbar will have a huge impact upon the handling of your car.
Additionally, it is very important to use the correct size bar for your application. If you go too small the effect can be disappointing, but not overly dangerous. If you go too big though you can easily loose control of your car and cause some serious damage to yourself and others. If you need some guidance on what size bar to get then please contact Turn In Concepts for consultation. You can contact Turn In Concepts by going to http://turninconcepts.com and clicking on the "contact us" link on the lower left side.
WRX and RS:
Whiteline 22mm adjustable rear bar is only $155 shipped in the US. You can buy this bar from Turn In Concepts by following this link:
Click here to purchase this bar from Turn In Concepts (http://turninconcepts10.chainreactionweb.com/product_info.php?products_id=46)
Whiteline 24mm adjustable rear bar is only $175 shipped in the US. You can buy this bar from Turn In Concepts by following this link:
Click here to purchase this bar from Turn In Concepts (http://turninconcepts10.chainreactionweb.com/product_info.php?products_id=126)
STi:
Whiteline 22mm adjustable rear bar is only $155 shipped in the US. You can buy this bar from Turn In Concepts by following this link:
Click here to purchase this bar from Turn In Concepts (http://turninconcepts10.chainreactionweb.com/product_info.php?products_id=40)
Whiteline 24mm adjustable rear bar is only $175 shipped in the US. You can buy this bar from Turn In Concepts by following this link:
Click here to purchase this bar from Turn In Concepts (http://turninconcepts10.chainreactionweb.com/product_info.php?products_id=61)
http://turninconcepts10.chainreactionweb.com/images/adj_rear_sway_big.jpg
Turn in Concepts 10-01-2007, 10:23 AM Since we've already got you at the back of the car with the talk of anti-roll bars Turn In Concepts is going to continue along in this vein.
Rear diff mount bushings:
Straight from the Turn In Concepts website (and an amusing read at that).
Are you tired of the "diff dance of distraction and deflection" when you're getting on it in your Subaru? Are you interested in better throttle response, and a more connected feeling with the car? If so, then by all means, please continue reading.
Made to fit the newer generation of Impreza chassis (That's the GD guys, 2002+). To check for fitment take a look at the pics and instructions. If your Subaru has the mount with the bushings on the ends then these will fit. (Except for the old Legacy Turbo - we know they won't fit on these).
See, the problem is this - the stock bushings are just plain wimpy. First, they are made of rubber (floppy, sloppy rubber). Second, they have a void above and below the center bore (you know, a void, like something is missing - kinda like when you're talking to someone and you realize that something in their head just ain't connected right, but you can't quite figure out what's wrong with them). This floppy, sloppy, empty headedness is fine if you're like 900 years old, and you drive like Grandma going to church in a school zone, but for anyone who likes to give their Subaru a little bit of gas on occasion they just won't do.
See, when you get on it the stock bushing flexes too much, and the void in the bushing closes quickly causing an impact. This is the source of that stupidly distracting clunk. It's also inefficient. You can also think of it this way - you're only putting out a finite amount of energy to drive the car forward. Why the heck would you want floppy, wimpy bushings soaking up some of that energy when you could be putting it to the wheels?
So what's the big deal with these?
Well, let me make a list:
Urethane instead of rubber
Stiffer than stock
No stupid voids
What else?
Well, since you asked, here's a few more things to consider.
There are others on the market making replacements for the bushings. Those are all one piece designs that require a press to install. Come on, how many people have a press sitting around in their garage? Ours is a split design. Trust us - it makes your life MUCH easier when it comes to the install.
You could get the entire STi branded part with Group N bushings, but the metal portion of the mount is the exact same as what you already have on your car. Why would you pay extra to get a part that you already have?
NVH - Hey, we've been playing with these for a while now and really haven't experienced much more NVH. Sure, there probably is some more, but quite honestly we can't really tell.
Cost - you remember those others we mentioned above? Yeah, ours cost less.
The Turn In Concepts rear diff mount bushings come in two flavors; race and comfort. It can sometimes seem a bit confusing to know which to go with. Therefore, Turn In Concepts has this simple guide - if you have to worry or wonder about which to get then get the Comfort version.
Either version is $40 shipped in the United States (AL and HI included).
To purchase the RACE version of the Turn In Concepts rear diff mount bushings click here. (http://www.turninconcepts.com/product_info.php?products_id=17)
To purchase the COMFORT version of the Turn In Concepts rear diff mount bushings click here. (http://www.turninconcepts.com/product_info.php?products_id=173)
http://www.turninconcepts.com/images/rdmb_big.jpg
Turn in Concepts 10-01-2007, 10:23 AM Rear outrigger bushings:
Sometimes referred to as the doughnut bushings. These simple bushings will keep the outriggers, which are built into the forward portion of the rear subframe/diff carrier from moving up and down so much. This will improve feeling from the rear of the car, and keep things from being so noisey during hard acceleration.
Turn In Concepts carries the Kartboy brand of outrigger bushings. These area available in both Comfort and Race versions. Price for either is $32 with shipping in the US included.
To order the COMFORT version from Turn In Concepts click here. (http://www.turninconcepts.com/product_info.php?products_id=186)
To order the RACE version from Turn In Concepts click here. (http://www.turninconcepts.com/product_info.php?products_id=23)
Comfort version:
http://www.turninconcepts.com/images/kb-053-C_big.jpg
Race version:
http://www.turninconcepts.com/images/kb_outrigger_02.jpg
ujduche 10-01-2007, 11:02 AM Any update on the Jorge quote t-shirts?
Foo_Blyat 10-01-2007, 01:42 PM Shift Levers:
Kartboy STi 6MT lever from Turn In Concepts:
http://www.turninconcepts.com/images/kb_imp_6mt_big.jpg
No longer black?
Turn in Concepts 10-02-2007, 12:21 AM Any update on the Jorge quote t-shirts?
Haven't even looked into it...
Turn in Concepts 10-02-2007, 12:22 AM No longer black?
Nope. No longer black. Tom@Kartboy has a new plate shop he's been working with.
Feign 10-04-2007, 10:07 PM Not that you guys need any more recognition, but thank you for getting the klunk killer to me two weeks ago! The chickens in the back end finally shut the hell up. :D
Turn in Concepts 10-11-2007, 04:49 PM Not that you guys need any more recognition, but thank you for getting the klunk killer to me two weeks ago! The chickens in the back end finally shut the hell up. :D
Please!!! We need the recognition. Tell anyone who will listen to buy parts!! Lots and lots of parts!!
you guys have have this moved out of a regional forum, people outside the midwest want to enjoy their cars too :)
Turn in Concepts 10-11-2007, 07:44 PM you guys have have this moved out of a regional forum, people outside the midwest want to enjoy their cars too :)
Take a look at the national for sale areas. We have similar threads going there as well.
F22-Raptor 10-12-2007, 08:19 AM When am I going to get some love? :D
Tom W 10-21-2007, 01:34 AM PM sent:)
Turn in Concepts 10-21-2007, 09:00 AM PM sent:)
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