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lobelsteve
10-15-2007, 04:39 PM
07 STI
Stock block
UR GT3582R
Tial BOV
Tial EWG plumbed back
DC Headers
Greddy Evo2
AVC-R
BigMaf
Walbro 255
PE850's
CAI in fender well

225 whp baseline
355 before headers and catback
390 on 93 octane
473 on VP110 at 22 psi (maxed out MAF)

Dialed back to 385 whp on pump and 460 on race gas (smooth and safe)
I don't even know if I am going to build a block and heads and go with a bigger MAF or Hydra.
This is way too fast to keep my foot in it in 4th+ on the street and I am not a drag racer.

Thanks to Doug, Tray, Valerie, and the installers at TopSpeed (http://www.topspeedsales.com)in Alpharetta, GA.

renosubby
10-15-2007, 04:42 PM
Great #'s...You got the Graph. If so post it up!

lobelsteve
10-15-2007, 04:57 PM
I did not get a copy of anything. Doug took me for a ride on the street after he was done tuning. I'm scared of my own car. It feels good, but the roads seem shorter now. I can see how someone who is not 36 y/o with 2 kids, wife, mortgage, and student loan debtcan get in a car like this and wind up dead really easily. If I get graphs, I'll post them.:disco:

ol'skoolwrx
10-15-2007, 06:32 PM
I did not get a copy of anything. Doug took me for a ride on the street after he was done tuning. I'm scared of my own car. It feels good, but the roads seem shorter now. I can see how someone who is not 36 y/o with 2 kids, wife, mortgage, and student loan debtcan get in a car like this and wind up dead really easily. If I get graphs, I'll post them.:disco::lol: :lol: can't wait to see dyno graph nice numbers. do you have any plans on getting maf?

lobelsteve
10-15-2007, 06:49 PM
:lol: :lol: can't wait to see dyno graph nice numbers. do you have any plans on getting maf?

I do not have the stock MAF, only a medium size MAF. Tuner says bigger MAF will hurt daily drivability (but allow for much higher boost). The car is my DD and is plenty fast (for now).....

saab-on-the-cobb
10-15-2007, 06:55 PM
Any idea of the elevation in Alpharetta, GA?

I am trying to get tuned as cose to sea level as I can.

Thanks for an answer to my rather odd thread-jack.

I only ask because THOSE NUMBERS ARE AWESOME, and I'll be living near GA again soon.


SOTC

lobelsteve
10-15-2007, 07:09 PM
Any idea of the elevation in Alpharetta, GA?

I am trying to get tuned as cose to sea level as I can.

Thanks for an answer to my rather odd thread-jack.

I only ask because THOSE NUMBERS ARE AWESOME, and I'll be living near GA again soon.


SOTC

Google says 1137 feet.

saab-on-the-cobb
10-15-2007, 07:10 PM
Google says 1137 feet.


DOH! I forgot about Google!

thx

SOTC

ejh25
10-15-2007, 08:56 PM
You need 30 psi!

burnin4
10-15-2007, 09:08 PM
that seems a bit high for those mods, must be a high reading dyno......:lol: j/k, congrats, great numbers!

I'd keep everything the same from here on out, only replace broken parts. your setup is on the verge of venturing into never never land, ie block/fuel system/maf/clutch problems etc. you are in the "optimal zone" imo, the fun factor starts to diminish once the driveability/reliability goes out the window.

VIR EURORALLY
10-15-2007, 10:41 PM
Any idea of the elevation in Alpharetta, GA?

I am trying to get tuned as cose to sea level as I can.

Thanks for an answer to my rather odd thread-jack.

I only ask because THOSE NUMBERS ARE AWESOME, and I'll be living near GA again soon.


SOTC

Agile Auto 250' , sorry for the OT.

Great power on the OP.

lobelsteve
10-16-2007, 09:17 AM
Drove to work today- 60 mile commute, still with race gas.

Too much power too much traffic. At least Doug taught me how to turn the AVC-R boost off so I do not fly through somebody's bumper.

Better than the power gains are the adjustments made to drivability.
The car runs much smoother (remember it is an 07 and it did have the hesitation issue before modding). He did something to the throttle position sensitivity through the ECU. I can finally pull away in first without revving it to 1500-2000 rpms. That is so cool to be able to crawl away at 600 rpms.
It makes my shifting feel that much smoother. Also got a pleasant burbling on downshifting with no backfires.

Loving it!

smokey07
10-16-2007, 12:01 PM
That sounds awsome^^ Im curious to see how it runs after a month or two of the ecu learning ****. If things are spotless then, I might just havta starve myself and have a 35r :devil:

Matt@3SX
10-16-2007, 12:07 PM
nice numbers!

cooter
10-16-2007, 03:19 PM
Didn't see it in the original post; what intercooler are you using, stock? ;)

TopSpeed
10-16-2007, 06:00 PM
Didn't see it in the original post; what intercooler are you using, stock? ;)


He is using a Perrin FMIC kit. :)




Tray M
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TAPOUT
10-16-2007, 07:03 PM
That's not bad at all...

lobelsteve
10-16-2007, 08:41 PM
Thanks Tray.

I did notice one small problem- though I cannot figure out if it is related.

I have an Escort 8500 and now when I get into the boost, the laser alarm goes off. I wonder if this is due to increased G forces or electrical interference or something. Just weird. Maybe I'll post in Electrical and see what pops up.

kcook
10-16-2007, 09:49 PM
damn dude , congrats

beaviscih
10-16-2007, 11:35 PM
Great numbers. What EM? Did Top Speed suggest switching to their blow through MAF setup?

http://www.iwsti.com/forums/engine-power-exhaust/40465-blow-through-maf-setup-kit.html. Top Speed did a great job tuning my '04 on 110. I have a very similar set up using Top Speed's Ecutek reflash with Utec, 720cc injectors, on 110 tuned to 29psi - no MAF issues (I'm currently running 112 unleaded vs. VP110).

Just curious - thanks.

cooter
10-16-2007, 11:57 PM
Thanks Tray.

I did notice one small problem- though I cannot figure out if it is related.

I have an Escort 8500 and now when I get into the boost, the laser alarm goes off. I wonder if this is due to increased G forces or electrical interference or something. Just weird. Maybe I'll post in Electrical and see what pops up.

This has happened with several friends' passport 8500's (mine included). You can either disable the laser detection, or send it in to have it "fixed" for a fee....the amount which I can't remember right now. I just disabled the laser since you're pretty much screwed if they get you with laser anyways.

STIred05
10-17-2007, 01:33 PM
07 STI
Stock block
UR GT3582R
Tial BOV
Tial EWG plumbed back
DC Headers
Greddy Evo2
AVC-R
BigMaf
Walbro 255
PE850's
CAI in fender well

225 whp baseline
355 before headers and catback
390 on 93 octane
473 on VP110 at 22 psi (maxed out MAF)

Dialed back to 385 whp on pump and 460 on race gas (smooth and safe)
I don't even know if I am going to build a block and heads and go with a bigger MAF or Hydra.
This is way too fast to keep my foot in it in 4th+ on the street and I am not a drag racer.

Thanks to Doug, Tray, Valerie, and the installers at TopSpeed (http://www.topspeedsales.com)in Alpharetta, GA.

Maxed out your maf? what kind of maf do you have? Is it the maf housing that comes w/ the UR kit? or something else? I only ask b/c I will be getting tuned w/ your setup minus the header and only 100oct. And I relly don't want to max out my maf.

lobelsteve
10-17-2007, 02:46 PM
Maxed out your maf? what kind of maf do you have? Is it the maf housing that comes w/ the UR kit? or something else? I only ask b/c I will be getting tuned w/ your setup minus the header and only 100oct. And I relly don't want to max out my maf.

I have no idea. I think it is tucked into the fenderwell somewhere between the CAI filter and the IC pipe.

Ultimate Racing
10-17-2007, 03:09 PM
Maxed out your maf? what kind of maf do you have? Is it the maf housing that comes w/ the UR kit? or something else? I only ask b/c I will be getting tuned w/ your setup minus the header and only 100oct. And I relly don't want to max out my maf.

We are now offering larger MAF housings. Please PM me for details.

Darryl
www.ultimate-racing.com

gabedude
10-17-2007, 04:43 PM
You need to take that thing to the track and run it in the 1/4. ;)

Swine
10-17-2007, 07:26 PM
07 STI
Stock block
UR GT3582R
Tial BOV
Tial EWG plumbed back
DC Headers
Greddy Evo2
AVC-R
BigMaf
Walbro 255
PE850's
CAI in fender well

225 whp baseline
355 before headers and catback
390 on 93 octane
473 on VP110 at 22 psi (maxed out MAF)

Dialed back to 385 whp on pump and 460 on race gas (smooth and safe)
I don't even know if I am going to build a block and heads and go with a bigger MAF or Hydra.
This is way too fast to keep my foot in it in 4th+ on the street and I am not a drag racer.

Thanks to Doug, Tray, Valerie, and the installers at TopSpeed (http://www.topspeedsales.com)in Alpharetta, GA.


Wow man, i remember you from way back in the day...you were talking about going with a green on the stock motor and i was like "ehh thats kinda pushing it". hahah:lol:

Auto-x anymore?

sti.2005.blk
10-18-2007, 04:41 AM
i cannot wait for my fulll-race turbo kit to come in!!!

lobelsteve
10-18-2007, 10:43 AM
You need to take that thing to the track and run it in the 1/4. ;)

I can't drive, it is the stock clutch, and I can't drive.
When I decide to upgrade the clutch, I'll get a lcoal driver to take it through the traps. No auditions, please.

boostdog
10-18-2007, 11:20 AM
I can't drive, it is the stock clutch, and I can't drive.
When I decide to upgrade the clutch, I'll get a lcoal driver to take it through the traps. No auditions, please.
What?? oh comeon man you need to learn to drive it...why bother building it just to let someone else enjoy it.

CoolRex
10-18-2007, 12:21 PM
I'd keep everything the same from here on out, only replace broken parts. your setup is on the verge of venturing into never never land, ie block/fuel system/maf/clutch problems etc. you are in the "optimal zone" imo, the fun factor starts to diminish once the driveability/reliability goes out the window.

Why you say that? I thought the stock EJ257 from 05+ can handle 500+ whp all day long with no issues.

burnin4
10-18-2007, 04:10 PM
Why you say that? I thought the stock EJ257 from 05+ can handle 500+ whp all day long with no issues.

there's no doubt his block will handle 500+. I just think that any more power and the car will become less friendly/enjoyable. I was ecstatic when I had my stock motor, 500whp on 35r kit. the driveability was great, but more importantly it was reliable. Now, I have an sti with 100k invested and I'm it barely runs :lol: :( . I miss the days of reliability, luckily my sti isnt my dd.

once you cross the 500whp mark, you begin to find the limits of several other parts, and you're forced to make a decision at the cross roads. ex....blow a piston or ring "do I buy a built bottom end?" then you start to think "should I have the heads p&p, upgraded valvetrain & cams?" His current fuel system will need to be altered (dual walbros, 1000cc injectors + rails, fpr/gauge), small selection of clutches that hold 500whp+, not too mention their cost and lack of driveability. maf limitations, idling, axles/cv joints, etc. his 07 is bad azz, right where it is now. stay in the "happy zone" for as long as you can :lol:

CoolRex
10-18-2007, 04:32 PM
Understood perfectly. Hence why I'll be happy with 450 on my EJ257 when I do it.

burnin4
10-18-2007, 04:42 PM
Understood perfectly. Hence why I'll be happy with 450 on my EJ257 when I do it.

^ you should be happy with what you got now :lol: . your car is faster than most 2.5's anyway.

beaviscih
10-19-2007, 08:41 AM
there's no doubt his block will handle 500+. I just think that any more power and the car will become less friendly/enjoyable. I was ecstatic when I had my stock motor, 500whp on 35r kit. the driveability was great, but more importantly it was reliable. Now, I have an sti with 100k invested and I'm it barely runs :lol: :( . I miss the days of reliability, luckily my sti isnt my dd.

once you cross the 500whp mark, you begin to find the limits of several other parts, and you're forced to make a decision at the cross roads. ex....blow a piston or ring "do I buy a built bottom end?" then you start to think "should I have the heads p&p, upgraded valvetrain & cams?" His current fuel system will need to be altered (dual walbros, 1000cc injectors + rails, fpr/gauge), small selection of clutches that hold 500whp+, not too mention their cost and lack of driveability. maf limitations, idling, axles/cv joints, etc. his 07 is bad azz, right where it is now. stay in the "happy zone" for as long as you can :lol:

Well put.;)

hondahata
11-01-2007, 07:32 PM
there's no doubt his block will handle 500+. I just think that any more power and the car will become less friendly/enjoyable. I was ecstatic when I had my stock motor, 500whp on 35r kit. the driveability was great, but more importantly it was reliable. Now, I have an sti with 100k invested and I'm it barely runs :lol: :( . I miss the days of reliability, luckily my sti isnt my dd.

once you cross the 500whp mark, you begin to find the limits of several other parts, and you're forced to make a decision at the cross roads. ex....blow a piston or ring "do I buy a built bottom end?" then you start to think "should I have the heads p&p, upgraded valvetrain & cams?" His current fuel system will need to be altered (dual walbros, 1000cc injectors + rails, fpr/gauge), small selection of clutches that hold 500whp+, not too mention their cost and lack of driveability. maf limitations, idling, axles/cv joints, etc. his 07 is bad azz, right where it is now. stay in the "happy zone" for as long as you can :lol:

+12345. Except if it is truly your DD + fun car, I can attest that it doesn't take 500whp to eventually start to fall out of the "happy zone." I got the SZ49, 720ccinj, Perrin Front Mount, AVC-R, Ecutek, Turbo-back, Big MAF and a LOT OF ABUSE!!! That much modding alone will let you push the car to limits it shouldn't go. Now its simply not capable of being anything but a fun car. But enjoy it once in a lifetime, and never do it again. I've had reliability problems since the day I picked it up from the tuner. The tuner proclaimed nicely that he didn't know what the fix was---and I was having so much fun, what was a little check engine light. Well its all down hill from there. On a 35K car, it all adds up to being not to smart. GL.;)

hondahata
11-01-2007, 07:39 PM
P.S. Does anything look older than an STi when the model changes?:rolleyes:

ST4TUS
11-01-2007, 09:41 PM
stock clutch/tranny/trans.case? NICE NUMBERS !

lobelsteve
11-02-2007, 09:28 AM
stock clutch/tranny/trans.case? NICE NUMBERS !

Only mods to the engine compartment. I'm not doing anything to the suspension on this one. I like the stock ride- had pinks and group N mounts on my 04 STI- too harsh.

Might be trying a Synchronic or recirc bov to eliminate rich post shifts.
It's tough driving on 93 with only 360ish hp after going with 473 on 110.
Even with the AVC-r off, it is faster than stock.

Thinking I might look into a 2.7 stroker kit to improve midrange (2500-4000 rpm). We'll see.

If I do anything else to the motor, I'll upgrade to the stoutest street clutch available. I'm not a drag racer and Ido not want a lot of chatter or pressure for my DD.

BuggeyEYED
11-02-2007, 12:00 PM
when do you think the 1000cc's will be needed for this setup?

jigga
11-02-2007, 12:46 PM
there's no doubt his block will handle 500+. I just think that any more power and the car will become less friendly/enjoyable. I was ecstatic when I had my stock motor, 500whp on 35r kit. the driveability was great, but more importantly it was reliable. Now, I have an sti with 100k invested and I'm it barely runs :lol: :( . I miss the days of reliability, luckily my sti isnt my dd.

once you cross the 500whp mark, you begin to find the limits of several other parts, and you're forced to make a decision at the cross roads. ex....blow a piston or ring "do I buy a built bottom end?" then you start to think "should I have the heads p&p, upgraded valvetrain & cams?" His current fuel system will need to be altered (dual walbros, 1000cc injectors + rails, fpr/gauge), small selection of clutches that hold 500whp+, not too mention their cost and lack of driveability. maf limitations, idling, axles/cv joints, etc. his 07 is bad azz, right where it is now. stay in the "happy zone" for as long as you can :lol:

I agree with this post...

Its one seems to fall off the deep end with regard to the car being a money pit after this, and I know from experience. Also agree with the part about tons of $$ being put into it, and it isn't much fun as before. Clutches also as mentioned are a PITA. Axles aren't all they are wacked up to be at much higher power levels. Those clutches that hold don't drive like stock, or even sound like it either, and likely don't have anywhere near the longevity as stock either....Then there is the fear of broken parts everytime you drive the thing to potential.

Just not as carefree as before, that's for sure, and I think it is a combination of power and that carefree enjoyment of knowing that the car is pretty close to stock and hence reliable is what makes it all fun. We often think that we want a race car as our ideal car, but trust me, we don't! The rattles, jerkiness, odd smells, extra noises, smoke, etc all start to wear on the sanity after a while, especially when you have to explain to passengers who are unfamiliar with cars as to why your car sounds like this, or drives as harshly as it does, or is as loud as it is, or doesn't start as consistently as it should, and the list goes on!

I know if i could do it all again, I would stop at that point and get a new hobby or something such as stamp collecting or something!:lol:

That happy zone is real guys! I too would stay in it as long as possible! I think that is where you get the most satisfaction and enjoyment out of the car as a street car:)

CoolRex
11-02-2007, 01:06 PM
I agree with this post...

Its one seems to fall off the deep end with regard to the car being a money pit after this, and I know from experience. Also agree with the part about tons of $$ being put into it, and it isn't much fun as before. Clutches also as mentioned are a PITA. Axles aren't all they are wacked up to be at much higher power levels. Those clutches that hold don't drive like stock, or even sound like it either, and likely don't have anywhere near the longevity as stock either....Then there is the fear of broken parts everytime you drive the thing to potential.

Just not as carefree as before, that's for sure, and I think it is a combination of power and that carefree enjoyment of knowing that the car is pretty close to stock and hence reliable is what makes it all fun. We often think that we want a race car as our ideal car, but trust me, we don't! The rattles, jerkiness, odd smells, extra noises, smoke, etc all start to wear on the sanity after a while, especially when you have to explain to passengers who are unfamiliar with cars as to why your car sounds like this, or drives as harshly as it does, or is as loud as it is, or doesn't start as consistently as it should, and the list goes on!

I know if i could do it all again, I would stop at that point and get a new hobby or something such as stamp collecting or something!:lol:

That happy zone is real guys! I too would stay in it as long as possible! I think that is where you get the most satisfaction and enjoyment out of the car as a street car:)

I agree with both you guys hence why the STi longblock I have waiting to go in my car will not exceed 500 hp. I wanna drive it and it's my daily. That's why I'm going with a custom GT30R....don't want to push it too hard.

dkan
11-03-2007, 02:51 AM
great numbers

lobelsteve
11-03-2007, 08:55 AM
Still having a ton of fun. Running 20psi on 93Oct and 25.6psi on 110Oct.
I have been getting a P0137 cel (no cats on the car makes this a no brainer) and a P0441 cel (evap incorrect purge flow). The guys at TopSpeed want to check it out and delete the codes from the ECU.

Anybody think I'd be crazy to go back to a recirc BOV from the Tial?
Would it hurt performance or make the setup less safe?
I'm just the driver and I'd rather not tinker under the hood when I've got good folks down the street. My goal is to break a ring-land in the next 6-8 months and go forged internals, a little head work, and maybe punch it up to 2.65-2.8L to get more power down low without giving up anything from 4500-7500. Looking to drop $8-10k on motor and clutch to get it bulletproof and turn 450 pump 550+ on race but retain as much daily drivability as possible.
If I go the built block route, I'll probably get a Prius as a daily driver.....

lobelsteve
11-10-2007, 08:56 AM
Update:

Doug deleted out the codes from the ECU so my 0441 and 0137 cannot come back. I found out my MAF is the standard MAF in the UR kit, and that it is 2.65" in diameter so this is what would limit things.

There is a motor at TopSpeed with 5000 miles and it has no issues. It might be a good long block candidate to get built and leave me with little down time for the swap. Cost to do a bulletproof motor, clutch, and install may come in between 10-17k. All depends on what parts to drop in and how much porting and polishing would get done. Still kicking the idea around.

Runs strong. Came out of the toll booths next to an 07 Z06 and a 612 Ferrari last night. I was on 93 oct and got to 75mph first. The vette was trying but the Ferrari was loafing, so I don't know. We did not squeal out of the toll booths and there is adequate law enforcement always nearby, so it was not goingto turn into a street race or high speed run.