Hotrodguru
10-21-2007, 01:32 PM
This had to be the best F1 season in the last 10 years or so. Like a damn soap opera!
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View Full Version : Kimi Raikkonen - 2007 F1 World Champion Hotrodguru 10-21-2007, 01:32 PM This had to be the best F1 season in the last 10 years or so. Like a damn soap opera! Schumacher 10-21-2007, 01:36 PM YESSSSSS!!!! Congrats Kimi!! :banana: :banana: Mad06STi 10-21-2007, 01:54 PM It's about time, he's been champion for awhile. Draken 10-21-2007, 01:56 PM w00000t! Great Job Kimi. finnRex 10-21-2007, 01:58 PM He did what was needed. He took 1st place and the chips actually fell in his favor this time. Holla! Way to represent, Kimi! Mika Hotrodguru 10-21-2007, 01:58 PM You just know there's going to be some mad partying for the next month or so!! w00t w00t!! Snowphun 10-21-2007, 01:59 PM Better than Alonso, worse than Hami. Shame for Hami, but Kimi deserves a championship. :) CamaroFS34 10-21-2007, 02:03 PM I'm glad Kimi won. On the other hand, can we not have spoilers in the titles? I, fortunately, saw the race. Some others may have theirs on Tivo..... Karen JoD 10-21-2007, 02:07 PM I am SOOOOOO happy for Kimi!!! I love Lewis as well, and he had an amazing season, but I can't not be happy for Kimi. Hotrodguru 10-21-2007, 02:08 PM I'm glad Kimi won. On the other hand, can we not have spoilers in the titles? I, fortunately, saw the race. Some others may have theirs on Tivo..... Karen Ahh good point, but from experience I don't hit any forums or news sites till I actually watch my Tivo'd events. I had a bad habit of checking my text messages and I get race updates. I now never look at my Sunday morning at 11am text messages :p Dogbert2 10-21-2007, 02:11 PM Word. There was a race which I missed in the morning and avoided browsing any motorsport website for that day until I could watch it. That is until I checked CNN.com and they had the results posted on the front page! I was pissed! Never expected CNN.com to show motorsport results on the front page! So if I miss a race, I will not even load up IE until I watch it. Jonathan 10-21-2007, 02:32 PM I am thrilled to see Kimi finally take the WDC. I am however annoyed at how it was done. To me, it seems to have been an "engineered" victory. Ferrari clearly pulled Max & Bernie's strings harder than they normally do. jamesohoh7 10-21-2007, 02:35 PM I am thrilled to see Kimi finally take the WDC. I am however annoyed at how it was done. To me, it seems to have been an "engineered" victory. Ferrari clearly pulled Max & Bernie's strings harder than they normally do. you're annoyed that team orders exist?... welcome to F1... been that way for a long time. As improbable as it was for Kimi to win the title heading into the race, I would figure it'd be fairly easy to overlook what was actually a tightly contested race up until the last stop... and even that wasn't a total gimmie... Kimi could've easily lost it exiting the pits... a lot of cars were moving around a fair bit in there. Hotrodguru 10-21-2007, 02:40 PM If the situation had been reversed I'm sure they would have asked Kimi to slow down to allow Massa to take the championship. subySerb 10-21-2007, 02:42 PM Scuderia Ferrari , Campioni Del Mondo Gooooooooooooooo Kimi K1WRC 10-21-2007, 02:52 PM I actually got the outcome I wanted.... I think I'm going to be struck by lightning now... At least I can die a happy man!:alien: The Iceman Cometh!:disco: Platinum03Wagon 10-21-2007, 03:02 PM YES! Just got back from watching the race at America's oldest Ferrari dealership with the Ferrari Club. Needless to say, it was a great day to be with the Tifosi. I've got some crappy cell phone pics I'll try and post later. Forza Kimi...FORZA FERRARI! P03w themarxist 10-21-2007, 04:06 PM Better than Alonso, worse than Hami. Shame for Hami, but Kimi deserves a championship. :) Word. Sucks to have Hamilton get screwed over by a mechanical failure, but Kimi definitely deserves a break, and anything is better than Alonso winning it, in my book. andyswagon 10-21-2007, 04:23 PM I am thrilled to see Kimi finally take the WDC. I am however annoyed at how it was done. To me, it seems to have been an "engineered" victory. Ferrari clearly pulled Max & Bernie's strings harder than they normally do. i agree totally!! they are just puppets for ferrari!! JRodrigues 10-21-2007, 04:47 PM i agree totally!! they are just puppets for ferrari!! Really?? That's why uncle Bernie (to Mr. Hamilton) said he'd rather have him as a WC than Kimi or Alonso. He's got all the help he could get in every race, including this last one where he blocked Kimi on his flying lap in Qualifying and wasn't penalised.. Or when the crane put in back on the track.. PossumK 10-21-2007, 04:50 PM Thanks for the spoiler, dammit. forced4 10-21-2007, 05:00 PM Way to go Kimi! Ran out of bad luck for once. rupertberr 10-21-2007, 05:08 PM Thanks for the spoiler, dammit. Yea. I had to watch it taped delayed. There is a reason they have an F1 spoiler thread already. :furious: _l_ kickitjp 10-21-2007, 05:22 PM Maybe he's worth the bling they pay him. Good race Kimi. Dogbert2 10-21-2007, 05:29 PM Ahhh what the heck. AFP France are reporting this evening that both William Toyota and BMW Sauber are under investigation by the FIA following the Brazilian Grand Prix. Nico Rosberg finished a superb fourth today at Interlagos, chased across the line by Robert Kubica and Nick Heidfeld. Details are not clear at the moment, but it seems there is a question mark over the fuel used in the 71-lap season finale and that has massive ramifications in terms of the outcome of the 2007 drivers' championship. All we know at this early stage is that representatives have been called to face the Stewards from both Williams and BMW. Raikkonen took the chequered flag this afternoon with rivals Fernando Alonso and Lewis Hamilton third and seventh respectively. The result was that Raikkonen won the title by one point from the McLaren Mercedes duo. Should there be any significant penalty applied to Rosberg, Kubica or to Heidfeld, Hamilton could be promoted from seventh position. A fifth place in the classification would give him the championship in what would be a very cruel and controversial manner. bemani 10-21-2007, 05:41 PM I'm glad Kimi won. On the other hand, can we not have spoilers in the titles? I, fortunately, saw the race. Some others may have theirs on Tivo..... Karen I've learned that people do this all the time on NASIOC so I don't even come to the forum until I've watch the race. StuBeck 10-21-2007, 05:47 PM I'm glad Kimi won. On the other hand, can we not have spoilers in the titles? I, fortunately, saw the race. Some others may have theirs on Tivo..... Karen Yeah, there is always the people who don't understand that going on the internet is a bad idea if you have it taped, but its better to not post spoilers. StuBeck 10-21-2007, 05:49 PM Ahhh what the heck. I don't see how its controversial at all. He's not the champion until the results are official, if others run illegal parts and get kicked out they deserve to lose their points. Gundoo 10-21-2007, 05:50 PM if you dont want to know what happened in motorsports... dont go to the motorsports forum. if no spoilers... at what point does it become ok to talk about? a day? a week? PossumK 10-21-2007, 05:59 PM Why do the spoilers have to be in the title? Screaming for attention? It could easily be a "discuss results of blah here" title. What's the point of having a thread if we're going to post everything we say in a title? Dip****. kickitjp 10-21-2007, 06:02 PM if you dont want to know what happened in motorsports... dont go to the motorsports forum. if no spoilers... at what point does it become ok to talk about? a day? a week? If it's in the title, it'll show up on a simple 'New Posts' search. Harry is dead, and Dumbledore is gay. Gundoo 10-21-2007, 06:12 PM Why do the spoilers have to be in the title? Screaming for attention? It could easily be a "discuss results of blah here" title. What's the point of having a thread if we're going to post everything we say in a title? Dip****. cool it francis. its not a big deal. aspen_rex 10-21-2007, 06:15 PM Made sure not to go on till i watched the race, just finished via tivo goooooooooo kimi! sirfrankwilliams 10-21-2007, 06:17 PM w00ot! for Kimi!! :banana: http://www.racecar.co.uk/uploads/rcnewsimages/kimi2007a.jpg phew, it was about time luck went Kimi's way! All things are right in F1 again and Lewis will have many more shots at the championship. BlueWRX 10-21-2007, 06:38 PM well deserved win for kimi. go ferrari! JamesWilson 10-21-2007, 07:35 PM On the SPEED Report, they commented that the FIA was going to place penalties on the Williams BMW and Toyota teams for fuel that was out of spec. That would move Hamilton up in the Points....I need to search for it, see if SPEED TV is "up to date" or not :) Glad they cancelled our autocross today (70-100mph winds!!!), got to see the race live! PossumK 10-21-2007, 07:43 PM cool it francis. its not a big deal. Whatever, not like it was the biggest race with the championship coming down to the wire for three drivers... :rolleyes: Jonathan 10-21-2007, 07:49 PM You're annoyed that team orders exist?... Welcome to F1... been that way for a long time.No, I don't have a problem with team orders. Well, I was annoyed back in 1978 when Mario Andretti was designated the Number One Lotus driver, Whilst Ronnie Peterson (clearly quicker than Mario) was contractually bound to be the Number two.. but I can certainly accept the Formula One like any other form of motor sports is very much a team sport, and sometimes one driver will be asked to back off so a higher placed teammate can improve his position. To me it seems blatantly obvious that Ferrari has Formula One over a barrel. If Ferrari were to withdraw, a good segment of the Formula One fan base would pack up and go home. Fiat (which which has owned Ferrari outright since late 1973) is essentially bankrupt and would very much like to yank Ferrari out of F1 in an effort to save money, is basically complaining to the FIA when ever their troubles become too much, and in an effort to keep their star competitor in F1, rules get "bend" and/or overlooked in Ferrari's favor. I may be putting things out of proportion, and I am certainly very cynical, but it seems to me that it is fairly obvious that Lewis Hamilton was told to through away these last two races... much like a professional boxer is told to loose a match... While I am certainly very happy for Kimi, I would have preferred to see more closely matched wheel-to-wheel motorracing, as opposed to what I perceive to be high-level string pulling. As improbable as it was for Kimi to win the title heading into the race, I would figure it'd be fairly easy to overlook what was actually a tightly contested race up until the last stop... and even that wasn't a total gimmie... Kimi could've easily lost it exiting the pits... a lot of cars were moving around a fair bit in there.Yes, F1 is a fast paced and highly competitive event, and yes a lot can happen, especially at the start. Patrick Olsen 10-21-2007, 07:54 PM I'm glad Kimi won. On the other hand, can we not have spoilers in the titles? I, fortunately, saw the race. Some others may have theirs on Tivo..... Karen Count me as one of the others. :mad: Ahh good point, but from experience I don't hit any forums or news sites till I actually watch my Tivo'd events. Bully for you. Not all of us have the luxury of following hotrodguru's Law of Internet Access on Race Day. if you dont want to know what happened in motorsports... dont go to the motorsports forum. There has been a rule (perhaps only unofficial, but a rule nonetheless) in this forum for at least the past couple of years, if not longer, to NOT post spoilers in the thread titles. It's the reason we have generic thread titles like "F1 Round 17 G.P. of Brazil: Season Finale." A few years ago when the WRC races were tape delayed the posting of spoilers was rampant and people were told to knock it off. This post by Hotrodguru, who has been around here long enough to know better, is the first spoiler I can think of in a loooong time. Honestly, when saw the title before I had a chance to watch the race I figured he was just being a smartass, because nobody would've been that ****ing stupid to post a spoiler here about the most important race of the entire season. Whatever, not like it was the biggest race with the championship coming down to the wire for three drivers... :rolleyes: Exactly. mac35 10-21-2007, 07:59 PM From Autosport: BMW, Williams unpunished; results confirmed By Jonathan Noble Sunday, October 21st 2007, 23:05 GMT BMW Sauber and Williams will not be penalised despite discrepancies in their fuel sample temperatures during the Brazilian Grand Prix, the race stewards said. Fuel samples taken from both cars of both teams during their pitstops in Sunday's race showed temperature degrees outside the permitted variation. Article 6.5.5 of the Formula One technical regulations states: "No fuel on board the car may be more than ten degrees centigrade below ambient temperature." FIA technical delegate Jo Bauer said all fuel samples from the four cars showed temperature of 12 to 14 degrees centigrate lower than the ambient temperature at the time. However, after deliberations at Interlagos, the race stewards decided not to penalise the teams, confirming the race results of the Brazilian Grand Prix as official. This means Kimi Raikkonen is confirmed as the 2007 world champion. MattDell 10-21-2007, 07:59 PM If Hamilton doesn't get promoted to WDC, does that mean McLaren would be running car numbers 21 and 22? And as much as I wanted Hamilton to win the WDC, I really think it's horse **** to have the WDC determined like this! -Matt StuBeck 10-21-2007, 08:15 PM McLaren will probably run 24 and 25 because of Prodrive. The teams were found guilty of breaking the rules, but no penalty. Good thing to know if you're not McLaren, rules don't matter. StuBeck 10-21-2007, 08:21 PM Whatever, not like it was the biggest race with the championship coming down to the wire for three drivers... :rolleyes: Yeah. I don't see what the big deal about putting spoiler in the title is. There is also a thread specifically about the race. Daishi00 10-21-2007, 08:29 PM Yeah, the no penalty sucks. Three guys all running illegal fuel and nothing comes out of it. But, on the flip side Hami wasn't penalized for holding up Kimi on his flying lap during qualifying so McLaren gets breaks as well. Congrats to Kimi for the DC title though, he would have probably won it outright if it wasn't for those two DNF races earlier in the season. It all worked out in the end for him which is great. I really had hoped that Hamilton would have pulled it out though in the end somehow. GarySheehan 10-21-2007, 08:32 PM This had to be the best F1 season in the last 10 years or so. Like a damn soap opera! Thanks for the spoiler, dickhead. StuBeck 10-21-2007, 08:32 PM Hamilton didn't really hold him up, he is allowed to be on the track and got out of the way the best he could. If everyone goes on track at the same time you're going to have to deal with traffic, and you can't expect everyone to just stop to let you by. JRodrigues 10-21-2007, 08:42 PM Hamilton didn't really hold him up, he is allowed to be on the track and got out of the way the best he could. If everyone goes on track at the same time you're going to have to deal with traffic, and you can't expect everyone to just stop to let you by. So why did he apologize??? StuBeck 10-21-2007, 08:53 PM Because he's a nice guy. Gundoo 10-21-2007, 09:45 PM Whatever, not like it was the biggest race with the championship coming down to the wire for three drivers... :rolleyes: f1 is a big deal. so is teh final race. so is that fact that it was the closest season finale in a bazillion years. that YOU, found out the results when you didnt want to IS NOT A BIG DEAL cdvma 10-21-2007, 10:25 PM You know what is huge? That text. And apparently your ePenis. Spoilers in the title suck. Congrats to Kimi tho. He earned it and I'm glad he finally got one. GarySheehan 10-21-2007, 11:06 PM f1 is a big deal. so is teh final race. so is that fact that it was the closest season finale in a bazillion years. that YOU, found out the results when you didnt want to IS NOT A BIG DEAL All I know is ALL SEASON LONG I've been able to come to the NASIOC Motorsports forum with confidence that there are no spoilers because everyone is up to speed on the spoilers issue. I guess that doesn't apply to the closest, most exciting F1 championship in a long time. Well "F" me! ccortinas 10-21-2007, 11:28 PM Thanks for the spoiler, dammit. what he said... :mad: :furious: :mad: Go Kimi! meebs 10-22-2007, 12:08 AM Looks like it won't be official for a while: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/63570 fogdor 10-22-2007, 12:25 AM ROFL - it's the biggest F1 race in....decades? And yet some people rely on the unwritten, unofficial Motorsports spoiler etiquette...color me not surprised buster 10-22-2007, 12:35 AM If Kimi wasn't such a boring wet noodle in every interview I've ever seen I'd be happy. Congratulations to the anti champion. Mad06STi 10-22-2007, 01:00 AM I'm not really one to care about spoilers but I can respect that other people don't want it spoiled against their will. Having it announced in a thread title is definitely pushing it in their faces. This thread isn't even needed. That same discussion is happening in the Brazil and 2007 Edition threads. It's quite easy NOT to go into those threads to avoid a spoiler, but its quite difficult to avoid the motorsport thread in general. It's not unreasonable to have the forum titles free of spoilers. I didn't believe for a second that Kimi was going to take the championship, it's quite a turn of events and if I hadn't seen the race I would have definitely had it spoiled by this thread title. gills 10-22-2007, 01:21 AM If Kimi wasn't such a boring wet noodle in every interview I've ever seen I'd be happy. Congratulations to the anti champion. welcome to scandinavia Patrick Olsen 10-22-2007, 01:49 AM ROFL - it's the biggest F1 race in....decades? And yet some people rely on the unwritten, unofficial Motorsports spoiler etiquette...color me not surprised Why would we not rely on it? :confused: A quick search for "spoiler" finds that the moderators in this forum have been locking and/or changing thread titles since 2002, and the policy of not posting spoilers in the thread title has existed since 2001. There haven't been any F1 spoilers in a thread title for as long as I can remember - at least a few years - so why would I expect there to be one now? I'm still curious where the moderators were on this thread, since it's the most glaring example of what NOT to do for 5 or 6 years. GarySheehan 10-22-2007, 01:53 AM Why would we not rely on it? :confused: A quick search for "spoiler" finds that the moderators in this forum have been locking and/or changing thread titles since 2002, and the policy of not posting spoilers in the thread title has existed since 2001. There haven't been any F1 spoilers in a thread title for as long as I can remember - at least a few years - so why would I expect there to be one now? I'm still curious where the moderators were on this thread, since it's the most glaring example of what NOT to do for 5 or 6 years. Well said, Patrick. I deleted 3 replies to Fogdor's post due to excessive vulgarity. Gary Sheehan Motor Racing www.garysheehan.com Hotrodguru 10-22-2007, 02:38 AM Just incase you guys didn't know...Kimi won. Thanks for the spoiler, dammit. Yea. I had to watch it taped delayed. There is a reason they have an F1 spoiler thread already. :furious: _l_ Why do the spoilers have to be in the title? Screaming for attention? It could easily be a "discuss results of blah here" title. What's the point of having a thread if we're going to post everything we say in a title? Dip****. Thanks for the spoiler, dickhead. You know what is huge? That text. And apparently your ePenis. Spoilers in the title suck. Congrats to Kimi tho. He earned it and I'm glad he finally got one. what he said... :mad: :furious: :mad: Go Kimi! scotto 10-22-2007, 03:23 AM I've been an F1 fan since the Mika Hakkinen days, and since seeing Kimi race for the first time in F1 I've been a believer. It was a magical result for Kimi today, and he was very gracious I thought for his teamate Massa's contribution, and to his team in general. I was moved by his sucess today! Kimi is down to earth and pretty straightforward - i get a kick out of his rather introverted interviews - it's just how he is, and that's perfectly cool to me. spoilers - :confused: I surely woudn't go anywhere near any motorsports news if i wanted to stay an info virgin - especially about the biggest F1 race of the year or many years.... What a great season! I hope Alonso has a competitive ride next season so we can all enjoy such parity again! gold rush 10-22-2007, 03:53 AM Herd on the radio that 3 car ahead of Hamlton may be DQed, therefore giving Hamlton the over-all... I believe Williams and one other team (cant recall) were busted for cooling there fuel, but F1 has still not given a ruling. StuBeck 10-22-2007, 04:01 AM Last night the FIA said that while they broke hte rules, they are not going to penalize them. McLaren has appealed against the decision, but the FIA hasn't accepted the appeal yet. jamesohoh7 10-22-2007, 10:15 AM History lesson deleted... I may be putting things out of proportion, and I am certainly very cynical, but it seems to me that it is fairly obvious that Lewis Hamilton was told to through away these last two races... much like a professional boxer is told to loose a match... While I am certainly very happy for Kimi, I would have preferred to see more closely matched wheel-to-wheel motorracing, as opposed to what I perceive to be high-level string pulling. Yes, F1 is a fast paced and highly competitive event, and yes a lot can happen, especially at the start. Wait wait wait... just to make it clear here... are you actually advancing the notion that The FIA forced Hamilton to throw away the title by purposely screwing up the last two races? Do black helicopters follow you home occasionally? :lol: I'm looking at my sarcasm meter and trying to make sure it's not busted while reading your post there... please tell me/us you're joking. Draken 10-22-2007, 10:58 AM The one thing I came away with, generally speaking, is how clean Kimi was this year. Besides the Ferrari/McClaren issues, Kimi himself had very little negative press. He didn't get in any pissing matches with his teammate. He didn't get in any pissing matches with his rivals. He didn't block people on flyers. He didn't block people in the pits. He didn't have many (if any?) on-track encounters where he rubbed wheels and ran people off track or way off line. He didn't stand in press conferences taking jabs. I found Lewis' dad's comments after the race (during the Peter Windsor interview) to be pure crap. The comment about how they were the only "real people" to have won etc, perhaps commenting about Kimi's low-key personality, shows how full of themselves they really are. If he honestly thinks that Kimi isn't a real person because he chooses to celebrate in a manner different than he does, then you sir, are one ignorant SOB. And if that is the type of behaviour you have instilled on your son, then I feel that drama will follow your careers like Briatore follows a hot-ass model. To Kimi: Way to go champ! You, by far, were the classiest act this year. And your driving earned you the championship. Chris H. Fred 10-22-2007, 11:07 AM Wow. There are some serious over-reactions in this thread. It's just a car race, nobody revealed the sex of your baby or anything, so you ladies calm down, okay? :lol: Yes, it's unfortunate that some idiot posted a spoiler in the thread title, but accept it and move on already! :rolleyes: ralliharri 10-22-2007, 11:47 AM To me it was ruined when I tried to go on SpeedTv (nascraptv) to look for rerun schedule. My DVD recorder didnt work and I tried to cover up the news but page came up slowly and there it was. Dont think I could've waited until wednesday for the rerun and news though. I read an interview Marcus Grönholm stayed up in the middle of the night in Japan to watch the race and he couldnt go back to sleep, now if only he could win too so little Finland (w/ 5 million people) have both World Championships, that'd be a dream result. Hyvää Kimi!! chkltcow 10-22-2007, 11:57 AM now if only he could win too so little Finland (w/ 5 million people) have both World Championships, that'd be a dream result. Hyvää Kimi!! Mika Salo took the driver's championship in ALMS GT2 this weekend. You wanna count that for anything? ;) fogdor 10-22-2007, 12:45 PM Why would we not rely on it? :confused: A quick search for "spoiler" finds .... ...and you lost all the n00bs right at "search"... MattDell 10-22-2007, 01:09 PM McLaren will probably run 24 and 25 because of Prodrive. The teams were found guilty of breaking the rules, but no penalty. Good thing to know if you're not McLaren, rules don't matter. Stu, Prodrive won't be in next year. Plus I would think they'd still be 22 and 23 since they were a constructor in the previous season and Prodrive would be a brand new constructor. So yeah... that will be interesting. Hamilton goes from driver 2 to driver 22. -Matt Patrick L 10-22-2007, 01:37 PM Man, I miss the days when this was still the I-Club back in 99-2000 and I could keep up with most of the stuff going on here and not so many newbs. Remember those days Chris? Draken 10-22-2007, 02:02 PM Man, I miss the days when this was still the I-Club back in 99-2000 and I could keep up with most of the stuff going on here and not so many newbs. Remember those days Chris? Amen! I remember the first few months, before there were even sub-forums. Just one big list of threads. BTW, I think we need another thread on F1. We only have three active threads right now. Why not a fourth, dedicated to the drivers haircuts, sunglasses, and girlfriends/wifes. Wait, that last part might not be a bad idea :lol: Chris H. ps: i sat the "new" FV yesterday and made motor noises like I was a true F1 champion. Too bad I'll only have about 1/16th the power :furious: StuBeck 10-22-2007, 02:22 PM Stu, Prodrive won't be in next year. Plus I would think they'd still be 22 and 23 since they were a constructor in the previous season and Prodrive would be a brand new constructor. So yeah... that will be interesting. Hamilton goes from driver 2 to driver 22. -Matt Why won't Prodrive be in next year? If customer cars aren't allowed, Super Aguri is going to be in trouble. MattDell 10-22-2007, 03:05 PM Why won't Prodrive be in next year? If customer cars aren't allowed, Super Aguri is going to be in trouble. *shrug* I'm just reading the Prodrive articles on Autosport. Haven't heard anything about Super Best Friends. wrxskier18 10-22-2007, 03:54 PM If Kimi wasn't such a boring wet noodle in every interview I've ever seen I'd be happy. Congratulations to the anti champion. I'm glad he won and hope McLaren looses their appeal. People these days talk way to much and think they are sooo good. It's nice to see someone under spoken win. I'd rather have him win than some cocky, ignorant racer. Gundoo 10-22-2007, 05:07 PM I'm glad he won and hope McLaren looses their appeal. People these days talk way to much and think they are sooo good. It's nice to see someone under spoken win. I'd rather have him win than some cocky, ignorant racer. i think is cocky. he just isnt so good at sentences. Patrick L 10-22-2007, 06:26 PM A quote from Lewis about what happened yesterday from f1-live.com Lewis Hamilton has admitted that his bid for this year's Formula One Championship seemingly came to an end during the last race of the season following a moment of human error. "My finger slipped on the steering wheel and I accidentally pressed the button used for the starting sequence," Hamilton confided several hours after the event, according to Montreal's French-language daily newspaper La Presse. That error cut power to his McLaren for an interminable minute, dropping him down to 18th place as the Brazilian Grand Prix entered its eighth lap on the Interlagos circuit. "The car went into neutral and I had to reinitialize the system, that is, reload the gearbox management program," he explained. The onboard camera recorded images of Hamilton pressing several buttons on his steering wheel while other drivers sped by. Once his McLaren car was back up to speed, Hamilton would afterwards work his way back up to seventh place, two positions away from the necessary number of points that would have allowed him to be the first rookie World Champion. However, his title chances might not yet be over: the McLaren team has announced it will appeal the stewards' decision not to sanction the BMW Sauber and Williams teams for possibly using 'cool fuel' during the Brazilian GP, claiming that precise information was not available. If the FIA's Court of Appeal were to overturn the decision and sanction both teams with exclusion, that would remove drivers Nico Rosberg, Robert Kubica and Nick Heidfeld from the rankings and allow Lewis Hamilton to jump from seventh to fourth position in the race's final standings - thereby giving him enough points to become the 2007 World Champion. While McLaren have declared their motive is to support their drivers' best interests, Hamilton himself does not at all feel comfortable with the procedure. "Being promoted after some people have been thrown out is not the way I want to do it," he told Reuters. His thoughts also went to Ferrari driver and provisional title holder Kimi Raikkonen: "To have it taken away is a bit cruel and probably not good for the sport." Daniel BASTIEN © CAPSIS International StuBeck 10-22-2007, 07:16 PM *shrug* I'm just reading the Prodrive articles on Autosport. Haven't heard anything about Super Best Friends. Gotcha. I think the FIA is going to the teams and just tell them **** you, essentially. They've had the rules for months and haven't done anything. Its going to be like in 05 when they made them run V8's in 06 because the teams didn't come to a decision. Williams threatening to take it to court will not end well. Snowphun 10-23-2007, 08:28 PM I'm glad he won and hope McLaren looses their appeal. People these days talk way to much and think they are sooo good. It's nice to see someone under spoken win. I'd rather have him win than some cocky, ignorant racer. Are you calling Hami the "coky, ignorant race"? I've never heard anyone suggest that before. chkltcow 10-23-2007, 10:37 PM There's a pretty neat writeup about the WDC in the NY Times. I'm not going to post the whole thing... just my favorite part ;) Go click the link if you want it all. http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/10/23/karma-rewards-ferrari-champion/#comment-31348 I wasn’t rooting against Hamilton. And I would have been thrilled with a Hamilton win. But deep down I was pulling for Raikkonen (even though I said it was unlikely that he’d win). Here’s why: Formula One is filled with conflicts of social guilt, which could be best illustrated by the fact that the championship came down to two teams that spend a combined $700 million each year – much of that going toward parts used in a single grand prix before being scrapped. By and large, Formula One drivers are coddled like precious show ponies. They spend more time thinking about the scruff of their facial growth and mutton chops than their fans, who shell out hundreds to watch them from afar. They lack emotion, speak only in clichés, and only a few sign autographs (and don’t enjoy it). The ugliness spilled out this season reached a new peak, with the Ferrari-McLaren spy story and courtroom proceedings, backstabbing e-mails and ego wars. Rooting for one multimillionaire cover-boy zombie over another makes me very self-aware of the indefensible nature of my support. Raikkonen has never been an easy guy to root for. He doesn’t seem care for the history of Formula One. He’s reclusive. And he speaks like a Cylon from Battlestar Galactica. But he’s also one of the most naturally gifted drivers in the history of the sport. And one of the unluckiest. And deep down in the layers of chance and probability that factor into each sporting event and season, there lurked the slimmest of opportunities for karma to return some of what it took from Raikkonen over the past five years. How could you root against that? I LOL'ed :lol: :D cdvma 10-23-2007, 10:41 PM What a great writeup. artkevin 10-23-2007, 11:09 PM Who was that speaking? The author? My personal experience is 100% opposite of what was said in that article. I have met about 15 or so current/recent F1 drivers and every single one of them (yes including Ralf) were more than nice. All of them spoke to me on a human level and didn't seem annoyed in the least. Maybe it is because I wasn't asking them to do anything (I'm not an autograph seeker) and that I speak to them like humans, not racing gods. With all that said, I have never met Kimi in person but have had things favorable said by him and to him through my art. parker/slc/gc8fan 10-24-2007, 12:01 AM In case no one has, I'm going to mention it. Maybe someone has. In that case I'll add myself to the opinion. I am honestly glad to see Kimi win I do think he deserves to be world champion. I'm sure his helmet staying on so long was to keep his emotions to himself and thats fine. Congratualtions to him. I for one Will think of this championship with one of these * Blasted team orders. If they were simply allowed It wouldn't be there. Good old Formula one and all it's stakes. allanwrx 10-24-2007, 12:11 AM he deserves to be world champion ….. but is still shocked daaaaammmnnnn he is a pretty good driver and im a big fan of him buuuttt this is de true aloooot of luck make him a champion this Sunday StuBeck 10-24-2007, 04:41 AM The author of the article is just plain wrong. bastich 10-24-2007, 09:17 AM I wonder how many F1 races he has been to, and how many drivers he has spoken with? REXLR8 10-24-2007, 10:26 PM stereotypes make me angry. that writer is awful |