Got this information from a very reliable source. I know that it is only confirmed colors but if you look at the model codes, it gives an idea of where the 2009's are going:

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee181/08LEGACYGT/2009-Forester-Colors-1.jpg?t=1194456238


Interesting that there are no model codes for a manual transmission Forester XT (Model code would have been 9J1XT)> I think that Subaru \is Missing the boat on this one!!!

More info as I can find it!!!

No WRB? Check.
No 5MT Turbo? Check.
No Sports? Check.

Insane resale value on '07 Manual Sports XTs for years to come? Check.

:Picard: :mad:

Interesting that there are no model codes for a manual transmission Forester XT (Model code would have been 9J1XT)> I think that Subaru \is Missing the boat on this one!!!

More info as I can find it!!!

It would make sense [to normal people] if they didn't offer the XT in a 5MT because they were going to offer a F-STI with a 6MT.
OTOH, it would also make perfect sense [to Subaru, a la no MT Leggy wagons, and then no Leggy wagons at all] for them just not to give a **** about people who like MT.:lol::sadbanana::unamused:

No WRB? Check.
No 5MT Turbo? Check.
No Sports? Check.

Insane resale value on '07 Manual Sports XTs for years to come? Check.

:Picard: :mad:

Price of Sports front bumper $160.... get over it

5EAT I could live with, if I had to.

4EAT and it's off my shopping list.

carefull with this info,this is Canadian info,not US..................

Interesting that there are no model codes for a manual transmission Forester XT (Model code would have been 9J1XT)> I think that Subaru \is Missing the boat on this one!!!

Maybe it is revenge for not making the wise choice of offering an automatic version of the WRX STI? :lol:

carefull with this info,this is Canadian info,not US..................

Exactly, the canucks did not even get a sports until 08 and then it does not have the lip or wheels....

yup, we have that info in candian dealers for a few days now.

<-- works for canadian dealer.

oh, and it's not like I can call this info...

maybe the sports will have its own brochure? or was it just a special end of model cycle run? interesting stuff.... its amazing how there have been NO spy shots of the new forester at all.. its amazing especially considering we're less than 3 months from its official debut... damn subaru's good at hiding information...

Notably, GREEN RETURNS! and oh yea, theres no extra silver, dark silver, its just steel grey and dark grey now :lol:

that looks like from a brochure, with that said someone post the pics of the 09 forester already :mad:

oh, and it's not like I can call this info...

OK, but it is more "official" than all of the speculation that has been around here before :rolleyes:

Some standard feature information:


All trim levels other than the Forester X will have fog lights
Side curtain airbags become standard on all models
Forester XT Retains the 4EATS but will have "Sportshift" like the WRX Auto
"X" and Touring Packages have 16" wheels, Limited and XT are 17"
All trim levels except the "X" will have a moonroof
All models (in Canada at least) will have heated seats
"VDC" will be standard across the board
Rear windows on all models will come with "Deep Tint" (change in vehicles classification because of increased size allowing for this??)
Limited and XT versions will have HID headlights (in Canada at least).
Drive and passenger side power seats in Limited and XT (instead of just drivers)This is from a Subaru order form that my source was able to get me a copy of!

Forester XT Retains the 4EATS but will have "Sportshift" like the WRX Auto
Another thing I don't like. I'd kill for the 5EAT / SportShift out of my mom's Outback XT in a Forester... I love that transmission.

If they are going AT on the XT and don't give me a 6spd FSTi, I am jumping ship and they are losing my business on another forester purchase!!!:furious: Maybe I can buy up some older XTs and mod them to my liking...keep a couple around as a stockpile.;)

maybe the sports will have its own brochure? or was it just a special end of model cycle run? interesting stuff.... its amazing how there have been NO spy shots of the new forester at all.. its amazing especially considering we're less than 3 months from its official debut... damn subaru's good at hiding information...

Notably, GREEN RETURNS! and oh yea, theres no extra silver, dark silver, its just steel grey and dark grey now :lol:

that looks like from a brochure, with that said someone post the pics of the 09 forester already :mad:


Canada has had Green X Foresters for years now,that in no way means the US willl have them.............

Canada has had Green X Foresters for years now,that in no way means the US willl have them.............Same is true for HID headlamps on the XT.

It would make sense [to normal people] if they didn't offer the XT in a 5MT because they were going to offer a F-STI with a 6MT.
:

eh if they offer the f sti ill be on ship and sell the 08 fxt sports!:banana: but only after i see how it looks and performs!

4EAT??? :rolleyes::rolleyes: Hello 90's...

It looks like the manual transmission is going the way of the dashboard carburator air/fuel adjustment knobs.

Got this information from a very reliable source. I know that it is only confirmed colors but if you look at the model codes, it gives an idea of where the 2009's are going:

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee181/08LEGACYGT/2009-Forester-Colors-1.jpg?t=1194456238


Interesting that there are no model codes for a manual transmission Forester XT (Model code would have been 9J1XT)> I think that Subaru \is Missing the boat on this one!!!

More info as I can find it!!!

It is amazing how fast the new information go online

Exactly, the canucks did not even get a sports until 08 and then it does not have the lip or wheels....


Yeah...but as for a manual Forester being for sale in the US and not Canadia....unlikely. We still get manual LGT wagons up here, whereas the US does not. For some reason, more Canucks prefer manuals than Americanos.

Unless some kinda Forester STI comes out....

damm I want to see what they have in store for us... please have a Sport model!

4EAT??? :rolleyes::rolleyes: Hello 90's...

Sportshift auto is not a 4EAT, it is an ACT4, completely different transmission.

Sportshift auto is not a 4EAT, it is an ACT4, completely different transmission.

Still, it's an outdated 4spd automatic. The new Forester is already beginning to stink of disappointment. Most automakers try to go for more gears for better fuel efficiency and performance and we get stuck with a 4spd auto.

I don't expect the 4EAT to be used much beyond the 2009 model. Subaru has admitted to be shifting towards the use of CVTs. So I expect to see that used in either 2010 or 2011 on the Forester and other models.

Bob

I don't expect the 4EAT to be used much beyond the 2009 model. Subaru has admitted to be shifting towards the use of CVTs. So I expect to see that used in either 2010 or 2011 on the Forester and other models.

Bob

bingo! i don't plan on subaru using the 4spd automatic for more than another 2 years after the forester has been released, b/c the CVT is coming...

Sportshift auto is not a 4EAT, it is an ACT4, completely different transmission.

According to the Subaru ordering sheet that I saw, the transmission is refered to as the 4EAT SS, the same as the WRX automatic is.

bingo! i don't plan on subaru using the 4spd automatic for more than another 2 years after the forester has been released, b/c the CVT is coming...

And we should be happy with this?

IMHO they should not bolt 4 speed automatics to their turbo engines, regardless of model, period.

Subaru has a perfectly good 5EAT, the research and development of which is surely bought and paid for by now. Use it!

And we should be happy with this?

About the CVT and Diesel coming to the Forester? Well yes when $5 a gallon gas slaps us in the face after the next election.

Still, it's an outdated 4spd automatic. The new Forester is already beginning to stink of disappointment. Most automakers try to go for more gears for better fuel efficiency and performance and we get stuck with a 4spd auto.

I think they should use a 3 on the tree. If you are going to use a crappy outdated old transmission at least make it something cool.

Still, it's an outdated 4spd automatic. The new Forester is already beginning to stink of disappointment. Most automakers try to go for more gears for better fuel efficiency and performance and we get stuck with a 4spd auto.

It's brand new for the 08 Impreza

And we should be happy with this?

yes, Subaru claims that it will increase gas mileage by about 5-10% which is great.. if you look at the whole gas efficieny front, subaru has a lot going for them

Direct Injection coming relatively soon
CVT coming relatively soon
Boxer diesel also coming soon

DI and CVT in combination should increase gas mileage probably anywhere from 2-5mpg on my guess

It's brand new for the 08 Impreza
that auto in the new impreza is pretty smooth i might add.. i'd be curious to know whether or not if FHI will eliminate the 5spd auto period in favor of the economies of scale of a mass produced CVT?:confused: think about it, CVT on the Tribeca, Outback, Legacy, Impreza, Forester, small car, and possibly the Exiga??economies of scale could really help subaru save some money here:alien:

All the discussions about the 4EAT in the '08 WRX will apply here also then. You may want to review some of those discussions if you are thinking of one. Ultimately you really need to drive one to judge performance.

4EAT does not have a center diff so it costs much less.

Peace,

Greg

Err, you do know this is the North AMERICA Subaru Impreza Owner's Club, right?

Err, you do know this is the North AMERICA Subaru Impreza Owner's Club, right?

:huh: :huh: :confused:

Err, you do know that Canada is in North America, right?

yes, Subaru claims that it will increase gas mileage by about 5-10% which is great.. if you look at the whole gas efficieny front, subaru has a lot going for them

Direct Injection coming relatively soon
CVT coming relatively soon
Boxer diesel also coming soon

DI and CVT in combination should increase gas mileage probably anywhere from 2-5mpg on my guess


My comment was in regard that this "new" technology is waayyy overdue. I'm really getting tired of trying to marvel about a car brand that has such little timely innovation....:sadbanana:

lol...

:huh: :huh: :confused:

Err, you do know that Canada is in North America, right?

oh noes!!

:huh: :huh: :confused:

Err, you do know that Canada is in North America, right?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :banana:

:huh: :huh: :confused:

Err, you do know that Canada is in North America, right?

:lol::lol::banana::banana::D


:diaf::diaf:

hahahahaaahahahaah

You know, North America = New York, Michigan, Maine, Alaska, Washington, Montana, North Carolina, and North Dakota. And South America doesn't exist anymore since they lost the Civil War, right? Then they bought California & Texas from Cortez.

Egads, I can't believe that post was for real. Plus, there's no apostrophe in NASIOC. The club is for more than just one owner.

:lol::lol: @ America comment.

This is what makes Americans look so "dumb". (sorry guys, j/k around, but still).

Err, you do know this is the North AMERICA Subaru Impreza Owner's Club, right?

Good morning Mr President, welcome to our little corner of the world.

Good morning Mr President, welcome to our little corner of the world.

You know, North America = New York, Michigan, Maine, Alaska, Washington, Montana, North Carolina, and North Dakota. And South America doesn't exist anymore since they lost the Civil War, right? Then they bought California & Texas from Cortez.

Egads, I can't believe that post was for real. Plus, there's no apostrophe in NASIOC. The club is for more than just one owner.
Don't forget about Poland, Mr President.

I'm amazed how well Subaru is keeping the new Forester under wraps for so long... I mean, its coming out in just a couple months but we havent seen a single spyshot or anything about it.

Yeah...but as for a manual Forester being for sale in the US and not Canadia....unlikely. We still get manual LGT wagons up here, whereas the US does not. For some reason, more Canucks prefer manuals than Americanos.

Unless some kinda Forester STI comes out....

Yup, very strange not to offer MT XT, especially in Canada. I'd bet on some sort of sports version with the 6MT, although maybe not a full STI treatment.

I'm amazed how well Subaru is keeping the new Forester under wraps for so long... I mean, its coming out in just a couple months but we havent seen a single spyshot or anything about it.

i couldn't agree more.. they're good...:huh:

Err, you do know this is the North AMERICA Subaru Impreza Owner's Club, right?

:lol:

It's brand new for the 08 Impreza

I been curious as to how it drives. And there are a lot of WRXs at dealerships near me, but none of the dealerships have any in automatic.

Pictures pls pls pls pretty pls

Well yes when $5 a gallon gas slaps us in the face after the next election.

That is assuming ANOTHER corrupt Republican with big oil ties is going to win... :lol:

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/5807/forester2009apx2.jpg (http://www.subaru-impreza.de)

^ I like that.

That is assuming ANOTHER corrupt Republican with big oil ties is going to win... :lol:

Republican = Democrat these days sir.

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/5807/forester2009apx2.jpg (http://www.subaru-impreza.de)

I don't think that the person responsible for this rendering has even seen the real car.

Yeah. I heard the new forrestor is going to be a sedan only and have a big rally rear wing.

That is assuming ANOTHER corrupt Republican with big oil ties is going to win... :lol:

Better than a corrupt socialist I mean democrat.

Better than a corrupt socialist I mean democrat.

There's a place for this political bickering.... and it's not here... it's called Hell... or can go to OT... that's a good substitution.

I don't think that the person responsible for this rendering has even seen the real car.

Too bad, i think it looks good.

Too bad, i think it looks good.

It's a current Forester with Impreza headlights, Outback mirrors and a mix of Forester and Impreza grille.

Whomever did that rendering fails at life.

yeah i know what it is. I still think it looks good :lol:

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/5807/forester2009apx2.jpg (http://www.subaru-impreza.de)

i'm thinking this is a really good photoshopped first draft :lol: of what to expect.. anyone want to clean this up, take off the partial fender flares, reduce the fog light sizes? and center the wing theme a little more?

i'm thinking this is a really good photoshopped first draft :lol: of what to expect.. anyone want to clean this up, take off the partial fender flares, reduce the fog light sizes? and center the wing theme a little more?

It's at least a second draft because it was made from the one that appeared in the Japanese magazine back in September. The German version substitutes some 08 Impreza features for the earlier guesses on the front end and adds a nice background to give it that air of plausibility. I think I like the first one better but either way we are probably not looking at what the real car will look like. Oh and bigger fogs please like on the RS and Bugeyes. Real spy pics have to come out soon don't they?

http://number6.homelinux.net/gallery/albums/forester/09_Forester_1.jpg

http://number6.homelinux.net/gallery/albums/forester/forester2009apx2.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t112/f1yinpig/foresterren.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t112/f1yinpig/foresterren1.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t112/f1yinpig/foresterren.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t112/f1yinpig/foresterren1.jpg

the silver one here is definitely not gonna happen since 3 piece nose is gone.. the green one above that looks just like another speculation pic of the 08 WRX/STI with sport grill:(

I will have to say all of those are HORRIBLY off... The original pic with the impreza gille is by far the closest... and that's way off as well.

I will have to say all of those are HORRIBLY off... The original pic with the impreza gille is by far the closest... and that's way off as well.

thats what i was thinking as well
couple of things worth noting, i've heard the flares over the wheels now will be gone, it will be a little more clean cut this time around... the wing theme in the center will be similar like the legacy.. one thing we can confirm is that it will have a H4 and AWD :D

thats what i was thinking as well
couple of things worth noting, i've heard the flares over the wheels now will be gone, it will be a little more clean cut this time around... the wing theme in the center will be similar like the legacy.. one thing we can confirm is that it will have a H4 and AWD :D

so we are not sure if it has 4 wheels or 6? :D

Kidding, I can see the same game all over again, that was played when impreza was coming out. Hopefully it will be a bit bigger than the last one, and with the better rear suspension, that impreza has, so that the trunk space may improve. Used to drive my cousins Yoshi (that's what she calls her forester in NY) really liked it.

I think the Exiga concept, more than anything will foreshadow the next Forester.

Giving the Forester seven seats to differentiate it from the five-seat Outback would be a good move on Subaru's part in distinguishing the two, which appeal to very similar markets.

I think the Exiga concept, more than anything will foreshadow the next Forester.
Not at all



Giving the Forester seven seats to differentiate it from the five-seat Outback would be a good move on Subaru's part in distinguishing the two, which appeal to very similar markets.

and then the Forester would be up the Tribeca's butt

Not at all




and then the Forester would be up the Tribeca's butt

i agree.. i think you'll be seeing a LOT more physical distinctions between the next gen forester and outback.. i wouldn't be amazed in the next year to see the forester and impreza sales eat legacy/outback sales, but once the redesign comes in for the legacy/outback, all 4 of these models will be fully distinct:alien:

No spy shots mean more photoshop!

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/2592/foresteryo6.jpg

No spy shots mean more photoshop!

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/2592/foresteryo6.jpg
that looks way too nice to be a forester, use more of a wing theme like in the legacy/outback, take out the flares, square off that back glass window, and add cross bars and i think it'll be closer :alien: i think that sketch is pretty :)

I am suprised that no one mentioned the 2009 forester comes in only monotone now. And, finallly the forester X will come with painted bumpers.

I am suprised that no one mentioned the 2009 forester comes in only monotone now. And, finallly the forester X will come with painted bumpers.

the forester X has had painted bumpers since the 06 redesign:confused: good point, no more L.L. Bean 2 tone, now its all gonna be monotone i guess... how odd

the forester X has had painted bumpers since the 06 redesign:confused: good point, no more L.L. Bean 2 tone, now its all gonna be monotone i guess... how odd

canucks still have unpainted bumpers on the X model

http://corpnet.mysubaru.ca/Content/7907/media/General/ImageLibrary/08for_X_side561RockPR_Gallery.jpg

canucks still have unpainted bumpers on the X model

http://corpnet.mysubaru.ca/Content/7907/media/General/ImageLibrary/08for_X_side561RockPR_Gallery.jpg

I forgot to mention I live in Canucks town:lol:

An interesting Test Drive analysis from a Subaru Canada Executive that was in Japan for the launch of the North American WRX STi and the 2009 Forester. This was forwarded to me from an internal blog called "John's Excellent Adventures" that the author apparently uses as a sales training tool for sales people:

Next comes the 09 Forester—Foresters actually, because they have set up the exterior of the demonstration vehicle so that one side has the paint, cladding and wheels of a base model while the other side is a higher trim level. Both look incredibly nice.

Again, I can't share complete details, but I don’t think I’ll get fired for revealing that the exterior design in general is a bit more mainstream. As with the new Impreza and Tribeca, the new Forester will appeal to wider variety of buyers. It’s a bit more masculine, more squared-off, more of a traditional SUV look than what you see in a Tribeca, CX-7 or Murano.

There’s absolutely no mistaking the “truck SUV” look, so there will be less confusion between Outback and Forester. Although a number of the design cues maintain the Subaru family look, this Forester will have a much clearer identity in the overall Subaru lineup.

This is clearly a more distinguished vehicle than its predecessor—especially so when compared to other small SUVs like the RAV4, Tribute and CR-V. The engineers conducting the session tell us that passenger comfort was a high priority in the development plan, and you see it in the fact that rear seat occupants’ comfort has received a lot of attention in this vehicle, unlike some brands out there. The versatility aspect of the vehicle also got a boost with some really unique interior storage solutions.

Our test drives start with a circuit of the Vehicle Maneuverability Test Course, then the Public Road Simulation Course and finally we get to let ‘er rip on the oval (well, sort of—we are asked to limit our speed in the Foresters and their competitors to 130 kph).

We start with the normally-aspirated and turbo Foresters plus a couple of competitors— the Honda CR-V and the Mazda CX-7. I’m afraid I can’t tell you anything about the Forester test drives—except that after driving the CR-V I can feel my body relax as we take the Forester models through their paces. There is that Subaru feeling of driving confidence that you just don’t get in the competitor vehicles. The new Forester has all the good qualities of its predecessor, but even more so. This is a noticeably nicer vehicle in every way.

Will the new Forester have diesel? I'm thinking of trading in my WRX for the new Forester.

An interesting Test Drive analysis from a Subaru Canada Executive that was in Japan for the launch of the North American WRX STi and the 2009 Forester. This was forwarded to me from an internal blog called "John's Excellent Adventures" that the author apparently uses as a sales training tool for sales people:

thats nothing but good news :) i'm hyped :banana:

the most encouraging is that it looks far more SUV like :banana: now no one will call it a tall boxy wagon :D

Best news I've heard on the new Forester yet!

If accurate, this is the most specific Forester news I've heard, and it's all good to me. Hope it's not too tall to successfully accommodate an XT or STI trim. It also sounds like the higher trims get either different cladding or no cladding. Unique interior storage, eh? I bet they're putting the collapsible shelf storage system in the cargo area.

Very exciting news, and an intriguing sketch. I like the looks of the car in the sketch. I do hope they don't make the Forester too rounded. One of its charms was its total dedication to utility within a small package. Being able to load sheet goods onto the flat roof was a big plus for me, and a feature I'd like to get back on my next vehicle, as I'm doing a lot more handy-man work now than ever before. The unique interior storage solutions bit sounds good too.

A diesel Forester with at least 180-200 hp would really put into the must have realm for me.

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/2592/foresteryo6.jpg

This sketch gives me a boner... :p

I think it may be pretty close. The grille may be more like the '08 Tribeca though...

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/2592/foresteryo6.jpg

This sketch gives me a boner... :p

I think it may be pretty close. The grille may be more like the '08 Tribeca though...

take a cold shower... the sketch is way out in left field.

I am not tring to be an arse and this may be OT but to some of you guys in the know, what is the "Subaru family look" he referenced. It seems that every vehicle has a different look especially in the grille which is the most distinctive part of any vehicle.

Which way is Subbie heading, Legacy, Tribeca or Impreza look/design?

The sketch looks like a small Tribeca which would make sense and the grille is similar to the new Impreza. But SoDealer says way off.

Peace,

Greg

I am not tring to be an arse and this may be OT but to some of you guys in the know, what is the "Subaru family look" he referenced. It seems that every vehicle has a different look especially in the grille which is the most distinctive part of any vehicle.

Which way is Subbie heading, Legacy, Tribeca or Impreza look/design?

The sketch looks like a small Tribeca which would make sense and the grille is similar to the new Impreza. But SoDealer says way off.

Peace,

Greg

according what i've heard, its going to be along the lines of the legacy...

with that said, any hopes of the 3.0 getting into the forester? anyone?

Why bother with the 3.0 if the 3.6 fits?

with that said, any hopes of the 3.0 getting into the forester? anyone?
No. 2.5 and 2.5 turbo still.

Why bother with the 3.0 if the 3.6 fits?

To further differentiate the Tribeca and Forester.

To further differentiate the Tribeca and Forester.

So that one can weigh 800lbs less and get the same gas mileage on premium fuel? Awesome. :lol:

I'd love to see the 3.6 show up in the Impreza & Forester.

To further differentiate the Tribeca and Forester.

They could also differentiate them by putting a glass dome like the Pope-mobile on the roof of one and differentiate them that way! :lol: I guess what i am trying to say is that it would be lame to differentiate two things by handicapping one deliberately...

So that one can weigh 800lbs less and get the same gas mileage on premium fuel? Awesome. :lol:

I'd love to see the 3.6 show up in the Impreza & Forester.

it doesn't need to be in the impreza, but the forester it does especially considerin the RAV4 has a 6 cylinder

take a cold shower... the sketch is way out in left field.

Jeez man, thanks for giving me the Lorena Bobbit treatment! :lol:

I think they should use a 3 on the tree. If you are going to use a crappy outdated old transmission at least make it something cool.http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/Catsmeow_/NASIOC/R16.jpg (http://www.renault16.com/links_fr.htm)

Agreed.
During my student days I owned and loved a 1971 Renault R16 with four on the tree (five total with reverse). Cool as all get out, as was the rest of the car, and drove like a dream. Marvelous piece of engineering for that period, too. Oh so French, and the funkiest set of wheels I've ever owned. The R16 was a magnet to braless, Earth Shoe-wearing Univeristy-aged women. Doubt the new Forester will ever be able to make that claim.

R16 OT here? Yeah maybe, but as relevant as most of the other stuff here about the new Forester. Now here's relevance: Subaru desperately needs to put some Renault-like fun and style, call it Joie de vivre, back into their product line or they are doomed to terminal blandness, a plague that's never threatened French and Italian automotive design.

Catsmeow ;)

.. what is the "Subaru family look" he referenced. It seems that every vehicle has a different look especially in the grille which is the most distinctive part of any vehicle ... The sketch looks like a small Tribeca which would make sense and the grille is similar to the new Impreza. But SoDealer says way off ... Peace, GregGreg,
There is no "Subaru family look" because the people tasked with finding it are still in search of, throwing darts in a darkened room hoping one finally sticks. As for SoDealer, word of advice: don't believe everything he says.

Just my two pfennig's worth, and peace back at you.

Catsmeow

That's it? Any other pictures?

Greg,
There is no "Subaru family look" because the people tasked with finding it are still in search of, throwing darts in a darkened room hoping one finally sticks. As for SoDealer, word of advice: don't believe everything he says.
Just my two pfennig's worth, and peace back at you.

Catsmeow

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

There is no "Subaru family look"

For '08, sure there is. However, it is kind of in two similar forms right now! The grille on ALL of the '08's share the chrome wing in the grille. On the Tribeca and Imprezas, the chrome wing is at the top of the grille (Chrysler style). On the Outback and Legacy, it is in the center of the grille. My prediction is that the Forester will take the up top approach much like Tribeca very much like in that supposed sketch.

In the next year's year's legacy and Outback, I wouldn't be surprised if the grilles shift to be even more simlar to the Tribeca and Impreza (ie Wing up top).

Other similarities include the headlights ("Falcon Eyes"), and interior (Tribeca style dash, etc) which will all probably become even more consistant after they are done mixing and matching the best elements.

Lastly, much of the curvier traits of the Tribeca and Impreza are very similar and will probably carry over to the Forester and upcoming new models.

[The R16 was a magnet to braless, Earth Shoe-wearing Univeristy-aged women. Doubt the new Forester will ever be able to make that claim.

Sure it will... except that the women don't have any interest in men.

:banana:;)

The R16 was a magnet to braless, Earth Shoe-wearing Univeristy-aged women.
Doubt the new Forester will ever be able to make that claim.

Sure it will... except that the women don't have any interest in men. ;)Wry observation ... and to think there's now a whole generation of men who have been raised up thinking this is the natural order of things. :rolleyes:

Wry observation ... and to think there's now a whole generation of men who have been raised up thinking this is the natural order of things. :rolleyes:




And to think, there was an entire generation that think their butt-tight, pointless morality began when the universe was born. :rolleyes:

... and to think there's now a whole generation of men who have been raised up thinking this is the natural order of things. :rolleyes:


And to think, there was an entire generation that think their butt-tight, pointless morality began when the universe was born. :rolleyes:... but we digress.

For '08, sure there is. However, it is kind of in two similar forms right now! The grille on ALL of the '08's share the chrome wing in the grille. On the Tribeca and Imprezas, the chrome wing is at the top of the grille (Chrysler style). On the Outback and Legacy, it is in the center of the grille. My prediction is that the Forester will take the up top approach much like Tribeca very much like in that supposed sketch.

In the next year's year's legacy and Outback, I wouldn't be surprised if the grilles shift to be even more simlar to the Tribeca and Impreza (ie Wing up top).

Other similarities include the headlights ("Falcon Eyes"), and interior (Tribeca style dash, etc) which will all probably become even more consistant after they are done mixing and matching the best elements.

Lastly, much of the curvier traits of the Tribeca and Impreza are very similar and will probably carry over to the Forester and upcoming new models.

i've heard the forester is going to get the grill treatment like the Legacy/Outback, but that would make no sense then as to how the Impreza nose is so different:confused: either way, the Tribeca nose isn't nearly as integrated on the wing theme as the Impreza is.. it was just kinda thrown on the Saab concept

http://blogs.edmunds.com/.ee99bbb/cmd.233/embedded..ee99bd0

http://blogs.edmunds.com/.ee99c8c/cmd.233/embedded..ee99c92

Edit: grr. v-bulletin isn't letting me post the pics...

I wonder if that sketch, assuming it's from Subaru, pre-dates the update to the Tribeca. Since they abandoned the upswept D pillar for the Tribeca, it seems odd that they'd go back to it for the new Forester.

Where are the new forester pics already then???

do people read this forum with their eyes closed? :lol:
its a spyshot of the then-new, currently available, 2008 Outback.

SOA is doing avery good job with keeping this under wraps. That could be good it could be bad. I think the current Legacy grille does a good job with the areo theme, better than the Tribeca and the Impreza still has not grown on me.

Still think it would be so good for Subbie to have one face. I quess what ever the Forester looks like maybe the way they are going. If it looks anything like one of the other products it would be two with the same look.

Peace,

Greg

It sounds like Subaru Japan will hold dealer new Forester workshops next week. So we should get some details soon. Official announcement should come around X'mas day.

It sounds like Subaru Japan will hold dealer new Forester workshops next week. So we should get some details soon. Official announcement should come around X'mas day.

with that said, there better be some spy shots coming out REAAAL soon.. i'm sick of waiting..

on a side note, i was thinking after driving the new impreza, i'm almost positive the new forester is gonna ride REALLY well, and it's going to be quiet and peppy.. the other nice thing is that the XT will have some really smooth pick up like the WRX block

on a side note, i was thinking after driving the new impreza, i'm almost positive the new forester is gonna ride REALLY well, and it's going to be quiet and peppy.. the other nice thing is that the XT will have some really smooth pick up like the WRX block

You're assuming that there is still going to be an XT. ;)

You're assuming that there is still going to be an XT. ;)

oh don't worry there will be says this official documentation :D

Got this information from a very reliable source. I know that it is only confirmed colors but if you look at the model codes, it gives an idea of where the 2009's are going:

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee181/08LEGACYGT/2009-Forester-Colors-1.jpg?t=1194456238


Interesting that there are no model codes for a manual transmission Forester XT (Model code would have been 9J1XT)> I think that Subaru \is Missing the boat on this one!!!

More info as I can find it!!!

Not sure if this is some chopped up image or if it ever made it here but here it is...
http://club-forester.ru/uploads/post-7-1192137894.jpg

This is a fuzzy view of the actual Forester it seems. Taken at some event in Japan.
http://minkara.carview.co.jp/userid/297597/blog/6873076/

Not sure if this is some chopped up image or if it ever made it here but here it is...
http://club-forester.ru/uploads/post-7-1192137894.jpg

That's a chopped up Aussie Ford, I'm pretty sure.

JDM rumors:

2.0X: 2.0L NA 140ps 5MT/4AT
2.5X: 2.5L NA 165ps 5MT/4AT
2.5XT: 2.5L turbo 230ps 5MT/5AT

The XT won't be available until spring.

Allegedly, the minor change S-GT will get the 5AT next year.

4AT is bad enough, but 4MT?! That's a downgrade!

I wonder if there will be a "SPORT" trim

^^^better be al least!

4AT is bad enough, but 4MT?! That's a downgrade!

My 1972 Super Beetle was a 4 MT with the 1600cc engine and it was just right and still very fun to drive :)

http://mitglied.lycos.de/subistudien/Forester2009/Forester2008.jpg (http://home.arcor.de/goep/gesch/indexENG.htm)

http://mitglied.lycos.de/subistudien/Forester2009/Forester2008.jpg (http://home.arcor.de/goep/gesch/indexENG.htm)
no wai:sadbanana:

oh no

I really really really hope that is not it... :unamused:
Then again it reminds me of the first pics we got of the 08 WRX, same quality and feel about them, and they turned out to be spot on.

Thats a photochop

very well might be a chop,but its not far off from what I am expecting......

Not a fan of this chop. The proportions are very mini-vanish. The hood looks too short to house the boxer. The rear overhang looks even shorter than the new Impreza's.

I can't believe how well Subaru has kept this vehicle under wraps.

what subaru don't want you to know is that they've fooled us all with the impreza, they're going to bring the Forester into WRC competition :lol: :lol: :lol: that way they can just pull trees down to block the road for those darn citroens..

The 08 Impreza was enough to take in and now this? This better be a photoshop, looks like a pile of horse****. :p

http://mitglied.lycos.de/subistudien/Forester2009/Forester2008.jpg (http://home.arcor.de/goep/gesch/indexENG.htm)

That looks an awful lot like a photochopped Mitsu Outlander to me:

http://www.womanmotorist.com/images/articles/reviews/mitsubishi/2007MitsubishiOutlander01.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/subistudien/Forester2009/Forester2008.jpg (http://home.arcor.de/goep/gesch/indexENG.htm)

WTF:diaf:

^ That image is from Best Car magazine.

Here's a couple shots (from a brochure?):

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t112/f1yinpig/fores.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t112/f1yinpig/fores2.jpg

oh noes

^ That image is from Best Car magazine.

Here's a couple shots (from a brochure?):

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t112/f1yinpig/fores.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t112/f1yinpig/fores2.jpg

this is going to get really interesting.. the rear tails look like the previous gen rav4.. it looks kind of handsome

Great news. Subaru never fails to make the new model "subaly", and refined the model in later years. :p. I think this is the real thing.

I stand corrected, I guess.

Whats up with the fenders for the fenders?

oh noesDitto that.

Great news. Subaru never fails to make the new model "subaly", and refined the model in later years. I think this is the real thing.Please explain this word "subaly".
My father was killed in the 'Frog Wars' in South America, so I was forced to quit school in the third grade in order to go to work in a diamond mine to help my mother feed my seventeen brothers and sisters. Words like "subaly" weren't taught until the 6th grade.

There is no "Subaru family look" because the people tasked with finding it are still in search of, throwing darts in a darkened room hoping one finally sticks.

"It's the bottom of the ninth with two batters out, and the increasingly desperate 6-Stars team pinch hitter 'Pleiades' has already fanned the first two pitches. Everything's riding on this one last pitch: the game, the season and perhaps the future of the 6-Stars franchise. Now here's the wind-up and the pitch ... Oh Damn! It's a swing and a miss for the 6-Stars and the team goes down in clueless defeat in what will surely be remembered in history books and by enthusiasts everywhere as the beginning of the end of the 6-Stars ball club. The crowd is not happy, in fact they're going absolutely nuts."Another dart misses the board. At this rate one day there'll be more Chevrolet Aveos on the road than Subarus. What a sad ending for the little automobile manufacturer who forgot their place in the scheme of things and abandoned their base.SUBARU management and design: :diaf:.


Catsmeow :(

Another dart misses the board. At this rate one day there'll be more Chevrolet Aveos on the road than Subarus. What a sad ending for the little automobile manufacturer who forget their place in the scheme of things and abandoned their base.What great news for Jeep!
Increasingly day-by-day, more and more lost Forester sales are going to the new fuel-efficient, spacious, spunky and character-rich Jeep Patriot 4x4 AWD both in the USA and Canada, as well as in Europe and Australia.


Yeah Subaru, you played right into Jeep's lucky hand.
SUBARU management and design: :diaf:.


Catsmeow :(

[QUOTE=Catsmeow;20150072]Ditto that.

Please explain this word "subaly".
My father was killed in the 'Frog Wars' in South America, so I was forced to quit school in the third grade in order to go to work in a diamond mine to help my mother feed my seventeen brothers and sisters. Words like "subaly" weren't taught until the 6th grade.



"It's the bottom of the ninth with two batters out, and the increasingly desperate 6-Stars team pinch hitter has already fanned the first two pitches. Everything's riding on this one last pitch: the game, the season and perhaps the future of the 6-Stars franchise. Now here's the wind-up and the pitch ... Oh Damn! It's a swing and a miss for the 6-Stars and the team goes down in what will surely be remembered in the history books and by enthusiasts everywhere as the beginning of the end of the 6-Stars ball club. The crowd is not happy, in fact they're going absolutely nuts."Another dart misses the board. At this rate one day there'll be more Chevrolet Aveos on the road than Subarus. What a sad ending for the little automobile manufacturer who forget their place in the scheme of things and abandoned their base.SUBARU management and design: :diaf:.

[INDENT]Catsmeow :(

The definition of " Subaly" ..... Ugly in a subaru way? :D or beautiful in Subaru's mind? You are welcome to put your own definition.

The definition of " Subaly" ..... Ugly in a subaru way? :D or beautiful in Subaru's mind? You are welcome to put your own definition.

Dusty,
Thanks for the explanation. Knowing the definition of this word in context means that just maybe my father's death in the 'Frog Wars' wasn't in vain, and that my 'lost years' in the diamond mines may eventually be redeemed with a GED Diploma. :p
"Subaly"... maybe that's the problem here: Subaru's recent designs aren't quirky ugly enough for my tastes ... they're just bland ugly, and bland means boring.Catsmeow ;)

WTF:diaf:
so is this even remotely close?:confused:
i'm hating that back glass... that looks ridiculous

^ That image is from Best Car magazine.

Here's a couple shots (from a brochure?):

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t112/f1yinpig/fores.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t112/f1yinpig/fores2.jpg

anyone notice in the top right corner, it has the hole just like the tribeca underneath the grill

http://www.caranddriver.com/assets/image/2007/Q2/040520071122476966.jpg

^ That image is from Best Car magazine.

Here's a couple shots (from a brochure?):

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t112/f1yinpig/fores.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t112/f1yinpig/fores2.jpg

I bet that's the real thing... it exactly matches the description the UK focus group members on sf.org gave after seeing the car in the flesh... down to the funky "double wheel arch".

Neat little sneak peak. Thanks for the images flyinpig.

Anyone notice in the top right corner? It has the hole just like the Tribeca underneath the grill.

Rumor has it that's where you insert the starter crank just as in Henry Ford's Model 'T'.

Utilizing a starter crank allowed Subaru's bean counters and engineers to shave a few bucks and a few pounds off the new vehicle by eliminating the need for an onboard starter while at the same time allowing them to install a lighter and less expensive 12 volt wet cell battery.


Just a rumor mind you, but not unthinkable considering other FHI/Subaru decisions we've seen come down in recent times.Catsmeow :rolleyes:

Looks like they kept it pretty sporty.

Before we declare it ugly, shouldn't we see an ACTUAL picture of the car?
I know that seems revolutionary and all, but I guess I just think out of the box like that...

Diesel please...

Before we declare it ugly, shouldn't we see an ACTUAL picture of the car?
I know that seems revolutionary and all, but I guess I just think out of the box like that...

I think we all agree than change is a bad thing. :lol:

See real pictures before the hating begins? Nonsense!

/sarcasm

Anyone here able to read the language in the brochure shots?

I think we all agree than change is a bad thing. :lol:

See real pictures before the hating begins? Nonsense!

/sarcasm

Well I for one WON'T be purchasing the new Forester unless it is made entirely out of carbon fiber, with recaro seats, has 400whp AND costs less than the outgoing one. :mad:
















:lol:

One thing for sure is the interior will be A lot nicer. Interiors are starting to me alot to me these days.

Just got an 08 FXT MT in Silver Steel Metallic yesterday. Lovin' it and love the interior. I considered waiting, but the interior of the new Imprezza isn't as appealing to me as what we have now. There is a simple elegance to the current interior and compared to my wife's 04 FXT Premium, the quality of the leather is better. I also had to have a MT!!!

http://mitglied.lycos.de/subistudien/Forester2009/5.jpg (http://home.arcor.de/goep/gesch/indexENG.htm)

http://mitglied.lycos.de/subistudien/Forester2009/5.jpg (http://home.arcor.de/goep/gesch/indexENG.htm)
Bemerkte Catsmeow:
Scheint mir den Echten zu sein!
Sure looks like the real deal to me. :(Look what the boys over at Subaru Owners Forum (http://www.subaruforester.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=286496#post286496) who participated in the Subaru Focus Group unveiling are saying about this photo and the new Forester:That looks pretty much what we saw minus the bonnet scoop.Does everyone who was there agree?Yup, dodgy photo and scoop aside, that is the one we saw!To answer guylr's Q(uestion)
Its about 12" taller than an SG with a waistline about 6" higher, I would say its also nearly 12" longer and at a guess is probably pushing 1800Kg (4000lbs).


puke

but a basic translation (of the scanned brochure) is:
starting 25th December you can find out everything about the forester.



Well done ...the front on picture of the silver car is what we saw for sure!

Catsmeow :rolleyes:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/Catsmeow_/NASIOC/NewForesterComing.jpg (http://www.subaru.jp/forester/forester/)

New FORESTER COMMING... (http://www.subaru.jp/forester/forester/)

I like it. Looks to me like Subaru wants to sell more cars in the UK and Europe

http://www.coches-es.com/noticias/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/nouv_renault_scenic_01.jpg

http://images.worldcarfans.com/articles/2005/3/1/2050301.014/2050301.014.1M.jpg

having driven both of these, I'd be very happy with a forester that was similar. The combination of car-like handling, minivan versatility, and compact design is very attractive to someone like me (30's, kids, still likes to drive), and currently Mazda is the only one selling something like it.

New FORESTER COMMING... (http://www.subaru.jp/forester/forester/)Whenever Subaru doesn't show the front end of a new vehicle in 'leaked' pre-debut photos, it always means big trouble. :rolleyes:

I like it. Looks to me like Subaru wants to sell more cars in the UK and Europe

http://www.coches-es.com/noticias/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/nouv_renault_scenic_01.jpg

... I'd be very happy with a forester that was similar. The combination of car-like handling, minivan versatility, and compact design is very attractive to someone like me (30's, kids, still likes to drive) ...Lucien,
We'll be lucky if the new Forester looks as good as the Renault pictured above. As for compact, people who have reported seeing the pre-release vehicle are claiming it's a porker pushing 4000 Pounds (~1800 Kg). If true, that size and weight will hardly make for an agile, responsive, fun-to-drive vehicle if it's outfitted with the NA 2.5 Liter Boxer-4. :eek:

SUBARU Management & Design: :diaf:

Catsmeow

Whenever Subaru doesn't show the front end of a new vehicle in 'leaked' pre-debut photos, it always means big trouble. :rolleyes:



What the hell is this? Why are you quoting yourself? Just add what you have to say to your initial post and stop trying to up your post count.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/Catsmeow_/NASIOC/NewForesterComing.jpg (http://www.subaru.jp/forester/forester/)





Oh no, looks like the excellent rearward visibility offered by the SG's hexagonal rear window may be leaving.

I like it. Looks to me like Subaru wants to sell more cars in the UK and Europe

http://www.coches-es.com/noticias/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/nouv_renault_scenic_01.jpg

http://images.worldcarfans.com/articles/2005/3/1/2050301.014/2050301.014.1M.jpg

having driven both of these, I'd be very happy with a forester that was similar. The combination of car-like handling, minivan versatility, and compact design is very attractive to someone like me (30's, kids, still likes to drive), and currently Mazda is the only one selling something like it.

Begs the question: why isn't the top one here as a Nissan and the bottom one as a Saturn?

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/Catsmeow_/NASIOC/NewForesterComing.jpg (http://www.subaru.jp/forester/forester/)

New FORESTER COMMING... (http://www.subaru.jp/forester/forester/)


Ah... spell-check please!

Bob

Ah... spell-check please!

Bob

nice to see you back bob

What the hell is this? Why are you quoting yourself? Just add what you have to say to your initial post and stop trying to up your post count.

I was wondering the same thing, catsmeow is starting to become a serious detriment to my sanity!

and the wait continues.. i think we will be getting some leaked or spy shots shortly

What the hell is this? Why are you quoting yourself? Just add what you have to say to your initial post and stop trying to up your post count.Iwanbo,
Chill Dude. I didn't include my observation about the hidden front end of the new Forester in the original post because I didn't think of it until after I had posted the announcement and link to Subaru Japan's Forester countdown site, AND I didn't wish to tag it on to the original post as an afterthought and spoil, polarize or othwise politicize the post.

Furthermore, I included the quote because I was taught that it's good form to do so when posting on a rolling topic. Apparently not to you in this forum.

... and for the record, I don't give a damn about my post count. I've got a life outside this virtual world, know who I am and have got absolutely nothing to prove to you or anyone else here. I'm happy with the size of my pecker. You?
Ah... spell-check please!
Bob
Hi Bob,
The spelling 'error' was intentional on my part, but not by the folks at Subaru whose classic Japanese to English mistake I was simply parodying and trying to subtlety bring to the attention of those parties who might be rapidly scanning the thread. See the original screenshot I posted from Subaru Japan's website.


nice to see you back bobDitto that. I enjoy your write-ups and thoughtful, insightful commentary both here in these forums and elsewhere on the web.


I was wondering the same thing, catsmeow is starting to become a serious detriment to my sanity!Pardon moi, Hondaslayer .. didn't think you'd be so touchy based on what I know of you by reading your posts in these forums. I assure you that any annoyance or breach of the unwritten NASIOC.com code was purely unintentional. You have my sincere apology.

Come in, Forester. Over.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/Catsmeow_/NASIOC/new_forester_revealed.jpg

Another screenshot of the New 2009 Forester's backside reprocessed using captured Klingon Decloaking Software. Please note what appears to be a dual exhaust system. Does this portend changes under the hood? A Boxer-6 perhaps? The aforementioned engine might be needed to properly motivate the beast if it indeed does push the guesstimated 4000 pound (~1800 Kg) unladen weight envelope.

Additionally: Anybody care to decode the WUF-62V cipher?

Hi Bob,
The spelling 'error' was intentional on my part, but not by the folks at Subaru whose classic Japanese to English mistake I was simply parodying and trying to subtlety bring to the attention of those parties who might be rapidly scanning the thread. See the original screenshot I posted from Subaru Japan's website.


Yeah, I know. I was referring to the Subaru site, not you. :)

Ditto that. I enjoy your write-ups and thoughtful, insightful commentary both here in these forums and elsewhere on the web.


Thanks—and much appreciated. :)

Bob

Begs the question: why isn't the top one here as a Nissan and the bottom one as a Saturn?

Yea no kidding. It always hurts to come back here after a couple weeks over there. I get used to rental cars with 6MT and light pressure turbo diesels, such a great compromise between grunt and efficiency. Plus those body styles are so damned useful.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/Catsmeow_/NASIOC/new_forester_revealed.jpg

Another screenshot of the New 2009 Forester's backside reprocessed using captured Klingon Decloaking Software. Please note what appears to be a dual exhaust system. Does this portend changes under the hood? A Boxer-6 perhaps?

Not necessarily. The Legacy, new Impreza sedan and STI hatch have dual exhaust outlets with 4-cylinders.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/Catsmeow_/NASIOC/NewForesterComing.jpg (http://www.subaru.jp/forester/forester/)

New FORESTER COMMING... (http://www.subaru.jp/forester/forester/)


Looks a bit top-heavy. Not necessarily in a nice Salma Hayek way either! :devil:

The back window just looks too tall or something. Oh well, at least it doesn't look as bad as a Dodge Sprinter in that regard! :lol:

Below the rear window, it looks very current Outback-ish.

having driven both of these, I'd be very happy with a forester that was similar.


These are the types of vehicles the upscoming Subaru Exiga will target.

Although there were rumors of 2.5L, it sounds like all JDM Foresters will be 2.0L with dual exhaust.

Dimensions will be larger than current, as expected.

=> 4.5" longer, 1.8" wider, 3.3" taller (no roof rail)
=> Minimum clearance will be increased by 0.4" for NA, and 1.0" for turbo models (exclude Cross Sport & STI)

Looks like the multi-link suspension from the legacy back there, but I cant tell for certain.

Dimensions will be larger than current, as expected.

=> 4.5" longer, 1.8" wider, 3.3" taller (no roof rail)
=> Minimum clearance will be increased by 0.4" for NA, and 1.0" for turbo models (exclude Cross Sport & STI)

Sounds about right.

Additionally: Anybody care to decode the WUF-62V cipher?

WUF = It's a dog.
62V = 62-valve engine needed to move the 4000 lbs

ugh glad i got an 08 (at least from what i am viewing in the brochure and this photo) but i guess i need to see it just like i needed to see the 08 wrx and sti in person before they grew on me...

What the hell is this? Why are you quoting yourself? Just add what you have to say to your initial post and stop trying to up your post count.

Post count has been removed from N&R...

Carry on :)

Although there were rumors of 2.5L, it sounds like all JDM Foresters will be 2.0L with dual exhaust.

Dimensions will be larger than current, as expected.

=> 4.5" longer, 1.8" wider, 3.3" taller (no roof rail)
=> Minimum clearance will be increased by 0.4" for NA, and 1.0" for turbo models (exclude Cross Sport & STI)

Thank you, thank you, thank you. I was beginning to think that the Forester as we know it was gone forever. The +12" length, height and 4000 lbs estimate by Simon just didn't sound right to me and your dimensions would seem to indicate maybe a 200-250 pound curb weight increase over the SG. That takes the Forester up a class but not out of reason for the Forester concept and it allows Subaru to go on selling it in Japan.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/Catsmeow_/NASIOC/new_forester_revealed.jpg

I like this rear end treatment so far. Nice large greenhouse, and a handsome, but utilitarian look about it. Perfect for the Forester. No frippery, no gimmicks. It's sad that the diesel looks like a no go for the Forester. Oh well, maybe next year.

Although there were rumors of 2.5L, it sounds like all JDM Foresters will be 2.0L with dual exhaust.

Dimensions will be larger than current, as expected.

=> 4.5" longer, 1.8" wider, 3.3" taller (no roof rail)
=> Minimum clearance will be increased by 0.4" for NA, and 1.0" for turbo models (exclude Cross Sport & STI)

Any rumor regarding direct injection, flyinpig?

Images seem fine by me, so far. Nothing ugly, style-wise, and not too much to detract from utilitarian design. So far it reminds me of a slightly smaller, sportier Honda Pilot, but can't wait to see more. Size increase sounds good for utility/passengers... wonder how it'll shake out for performance-oriented XT drivers. Hopefully they'll be able to keep the COG the same or lower like the Impreza.

^ No direct engine

JDM rumored specs:
- 5MT/E-4AT
- 2.0NA 175PS AVCS / 33mpg / Active Torque Split / VDC
- 2.0T 230PS AVCS / 31mpg / SI-DRIVE / VTD / VDC

- Interior similar to Impreza with better materials
- Reclining rear seats, more rear foot room
- Cross Sports version supplement planned
- STI version is undecided

^ No direct engine

JDM rumored specs:
- 5MT/E-4AT
- 2.0NA 175PS AVCS / 33mpg / Active Torque Split / VDC
- 2.0T 230PS AVCS / 31mpg / SI-DRIVE / VTD / VDC

- Interior similar to Impreza with better materials
- Reclining rear seats, more rear foot room
- Cross Sports version supplement planned
- STI version is undecided
better interior materials than the impreza?:banana:

hopefully it looks exactly like the tribeca interior instead of the kinda like tribeca with the 08 impreza.. reclining rear seats sounds great.. cross sports cool, there better be an STI:mad:

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/7173/subaru2009forestersentrcn8.jpg

http://www.hot4s.com.au/news/blog.php?id=22
I have gather this photo too i wish to share thank to welton for help with gettin image
and i have been feautred on the hot4s main site :D
orignal post i did at http://forum.hot4s.com.au/showthread.php?t=32040
(http://forum.hot4s.com.au/showthread.php?t=32040)

Nice photoshop work there, preserved the details nicely. Looks like the thing has a more serious stance in that picture. More SUV and less tallish wagon.

anyone notice in the top right corner, it has the hole just like the tribeca underneath the grill

http://www.caranddriver.com/assets/image/2007/Q2/040520071122476966.jpg

Same grille in fact...

[I]Lucien,
We'll be lucky if the new Forester looks as good as the Renault pictured above.

Egad, I hope you're joking?!!

It's sad that the diesel looks like a no go for the Forester. Oh well, maybe next year.

Wasn't that always the plan? Diesel engines debut in Legacy/Outback (Tribeca?) then trickle down to the smaller models? I'm speaking about Europe of course, N.A. who knows if they'll ever arrive...:rolleyes:

Egad, I hope you're joking?!!HB Dad,
Yes, of course .. but in retrospect it's clear that it wasn't funny, in fact it was a pitifully failed attempt to be witty and droll :o. Hadn't yet had my morning coffee when I penned those words. Mea Culpa.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/Catsmeow_/NASIOC/subaru2009forestersentrcn8_bw_50_ds.jpg (http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/7173/subaru2009forestersentrcn8.jpg)

I have gather this photo too .. i wish to share .. thank to welton for help with gettin image
Sentralizer,

KUDOS and ditto what Achilles38WRX said a few lines up: wonderfully detailed image!

It's obvious you and Welton have the latest release of Klingon Decloaking Software and know how to use it. Would you guys perhaps also in fact be undercover Klingons with a native feel for the technology :eek: ? Wherever & whatever your home planet .. Great work!

Among other things, I notice that there doesn't appear to be a horizontal chrome accent band running across the hatch between the taillights as is the case with the '08 Impreza and '08 Outback Wagon. Thought that styling feature was going to be incorporated into all Subarus, but am glad it's not here: makes for a cleaner, more purposeful & less garish look.

All in all, I'm cautiously optimistic about the New Forester with what I've seen and read to date. Exterior and interior design aside, the most important attribute of the New Forester will be whether or not it drives as well as or better than the previous gen Forester we all grew to love .. fun-to-drive with emotion.

Better the devil you know, or not???

The photochop looks great!!! Great artists out there.

Anyways, another hint of what the front will look like is available on a blog in Japan as usual.

Here's the link. Take a look. Does somewhat resemble the Tribeca.

ttp://minkara.carview.co.jp/userid/267122/blog/6960259/

http://carview-img01.bmcdn.jp/carlife/images/UserDiary/6960259/P1.jpg

wOw this thing has STI like flares (kinda) this is looking REEAAL good :banana:

According to Edmunds, the Forester will debut in Japan in December. Now I haven't been checking that ticking clock on the Japanese Forester micro site, but that may be the case. I was under the impression it would make a "world" debut at Detroit in January. I guess not.

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=123698

Bob

According to Edmunds, the Forester will debut in Japan in December. Now I haven't been checking that ticking clock on the Japanese Forester micro site, but that may be the case. I was under the impression it would make a "world" debut at Detroit in January. I guess not.
Hi Bob,

The New Forester brochure excerpt in Japanese that posted earlier in the thread reportedly says in translation that, "... the New Forster will be revealed on December 25th (ed: Christmas Day)."

Although most Japensese don't celebrate Christmas as a Christian holiday, they are smitten enough with Western culture to know the day is special and associated with the exchanging of gifts. Many Japanese families even put up a Christmas tree!

In any case, my reading of the tea leaves interprets this all this to mean that Subaru's gift to the world on Christmas Day will be the New Forester. Very subtle and gosh darn clever. The FHI/Subaru home office certainly has a good sense for timing and drama ;).

ttp://minkara.carview.co.jp/image.aspx?src=http%3a%2f%2fcarview-img01.bmcdn.jp%2fcarlife%2fimages%2fUserDiary%2f69 58320%2fP1.jpg

Enjoy!

Looking like it's not so bad afterall. We'll have to see if there will be one for the front.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/Catsmeow_/NASIOC/P2.jpg (http://minkara.carview.co.jp/image.aspx?src=http%3a%2f%2fcarview-img01.bmcdn.jp%2fcarlife%2fimages%2fUserDiary%2f69 58320%2fP1.jpg)

DAMN,IT'S TALLER AND BIGGER!! If taht really is the new forester.

Anyways, another hint of what the front will look like is available on a blog in Japan as usual ... Does somewhat resemble the Tribeca.

Enjoy! Looking like it's not so bad afterall. We'll have to see if there will be one for the front.
Kinoppyus,
Great Online Sleuthing Man!
Keep the photostream flowing & many thanks. ;)

rear kinda reminds me of a honda pilot

i'm liking this... keep it coming :D this looks VERY promising

Maybe

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t123/jtomko1/11953996940015.jpg

you sure? not tribeca? i like waht i c..

that's beca with non-Chrysler grille

Here it is:
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/Catsmeow_/NASIOC/11953996940015_640_DS2.jpg (http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t123/jtomko1/11953996940015.jpg)Yeah sure :rolleyes: ... . looks like a chopped Tribeca to me.

http://members.arstechnica.com/x/kreed/trifor.jpg

That's not it. That's a chopped Tribeca, missing key design elements like the "double wheel arch".

Forester detail:
http://carview-img01.bmcdn.jp/carlife/images/UserDiary/6960259/P1.jpg

nice chop, actually it looks better than uglybeca

this should be closer..

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/2489/foresterps3vz3.jpg

http://carview-img01.bmcdn.jp/carlife/images/UserDiary/6960259/P1.jpg

Interesting wheels. If accurate, this shot really brings out the Legacy/Outback character line flowing back from the top of the headlights. Can't wait to see more. :)

Interesting wheels. If accurate, this shot really brings out the Legacy/Outback character line flowing back from the top of the headlights. Can't wait to see more. :)

The wheels look similar to the ones on the new STI.

I like what I see so far... Reminds me of a range rover


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/Catsmeow_/NASIOC/P2.jpg

http://us.autos1.yimg.com/img.autos.yahoo.com/izp/landrover_rangerover_supercharged_2007_exterior_re arview_640x480.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/Catsmeow_/NASIOC/P2.jpg
Taillight on the right appears to be different than the left one and than the taillight that's in the possible brochure shots flyinpig posted.

^ Single rear fog light...

were the folks on forester.org pissed about this? this looks amazing.. a lot more characterful than the current impreza

^ Single rear fog light...

Ah. Thanks, BigElm. Makes sense. I guess I assumed a reflector would be replaced by a fog light for JDM or Euro... isn't it that way on Legacy?

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/Catsmeow_/NASIOC/P2.jpg (http://minkara.carview.co.jp/image.aspx?src=http%3a%2f%2fcarview-img01.bmcdn.jp%2fcarlife%2fimages%2fUserDiary%2f69 58320%2fP1.jpg)

You know, I was at a car clinic a couple of years back where I saw the Tribeca with the '08 grille treatment (slightly different) and broke the news on this board. I also mentioned seeing some photoshopped pics the SOA folks posted for me to evaluate. One was what looked like a longer Forester. When I asked if it seated 7, the rep said yes though there was a little less space then the Tribeca. Now I see this large Forester in the pic and wonder if there is a 5+2 or 7-seat model in the works. Lets not forget the new Exiga concept which is rumoured to be the next Outback. Maybe Subaru is adding a third row option across the board? ;)

this should be closer..

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/2489/foresterps3vz3.jpg

Very nice rendition. I wish this front end is what the Tribeca had. It's very distinctive—and doesn't look like a Chrysler.

Don't like the rear quarter window, though. The shape hinders rear visibility. The rear-quarter window on the current Tribeca is better for that very reaso—better visibility.

Bob

Kinoppyus,
Great Online Sleuthing Man!
Keep the photostream flowing & many thanks. ;)

No prob. Just trying to feed more info as I have not been active on forums at all.

I'll see if I can dig up more details on the Japan websites.

Here's more that I've found. Not sure if this is a chop or not but it's from a Japanese magazine.

http://www.naigai-p.co.jp/jikayosha/image/cover/magazine/jikayou_200801.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/Catsmeow_/NASIOC/P2.jpg (http://minkara.carview.co.jp/image.aspx?src=http%3a%2f%2fcarview-img01.bmcdn.jp%2fcarlife%2fimages%2fUserDiary%2f69 58320%2fP1.jpg)


no doubt in my mind that this is the real deal.Look hard right under the rear wiper and you can see the Subaru logo taped over even..........
now all we need is a good shot of the front and side views,like what I see so far though,very promising indeed........Brian

Or it's just like every other subaru and takes pics good from one angle, hence look at the teaser, taken from it's good side ;)

Or it's just like every other subaru and takes pics good from one angle, hence look at the teaser, taken from it's good side ;)

lets not be negative without seeing the whole car............K?

lets not be negative without seeing the whole car............K?

I agree. At this point I'm feeling really good about this car. I think it will do really well among the intended audience.

Bob

It's called sarcasm (see the little winky dude at the end) .... relax there won't you.

Given the pricing of the STI and my personal needs it might be my next scooby anyways ;)

Don't like the rear quarter window, though. The shape hinders rear visibility. The rear-quarter window on the current Tribeca is better for that very reaso—better visibility.

Bob

Not happy with the rear window - the hexagonal one on my SG combined with relatively small C- and D-pillars gives the car the best rearward visibility of any I've owned.

I'm also disappointed with the size of the rear wiper on the black car in the spy photo; it'll have far less unswept area than either the SF or SG, in fact more like a...

rear kinda reminds me of a honda pilot

...which is too bad since there's already a Pilot in my household.

Looks pretty good so far... Its still in line with the previous models in terms of styling and layout, but just enough larger to make it competitive.

It's called sarcasm (see the little winky dude at the end) .... relax there won't you.

Given the pricing of the STI and my personal needs it might be my next scooby anyways ;)

I am plenty relaxed,just would hate to see this turn into another bash session is all.........:)

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/Catsmeow_/NASIOC/P2.jpg
Taillight on the right appears to be different than the left one and than the taillight that's in the possible brochure shots flyinpig posted.
anyone notice the rear back up camera?:)

good call on backup cam.

By the looks of the exhausts, it seems like it's a legacy/outback derived multi-arm rear suspension.

Notice the diffuser, like the 'preza ?

good call on backup cam.

By the looks of the exhausts, it seems like it's a legacy/outback derived multi-arm rear suspension.

Notice the diffuser, like the 'preza ?

I think that "diffuser" might just be the defroster vents reflection in the windshield of the car that the pic was taken from......

No, its a diffuser bumper look alike thingy like on the WRX's

O.k, I can see it now, had to adjust the colour on my monitor.

Yep....


http://bp3.blogger.com/_FoXyvaPSnVk/R03Cl7ph6_I/AAAAAAAAcXg/x3g5Lpy9zfg/s400/csp_sf9_10.jpg

http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2007/11/2009-subaru-forester-breaks-cover-on.html

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f126/eheddles/exiga.jpg

.. anyone notice the rear back up camera? :)http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/Catsmeow_/NASIOC/o9_foz_cam.jpg

Me dumb .:huh:. Where is it???

here's a hint:

http://www.cars101.com/subaru/tribeca/tribeca07camera2.JPG
http://www.cars101.com/subaru/tribeca/tribeca07camera2.JPG

here's a hint:
http://www.cars101.com/subaru/tribeca/tribeca07camera2.JPG (http://www.cars101.com/subaru/tribeca/tribeca07camera2.JPG)

Achilles,

Thanks for tip! I didn't have a clue where to look, as I've never paid much attention to SUVs much larger than the Forester and have never desired a vehicle whose design necessitates a back-up camera for safety's sake. Dare I conclude then that the camera's located above and to the left of the top left corner of the license plate? There appears to be an asymmetric dark something in that spot.

Guess, too, your answer means I highlighted a traffic signal or street light standard: kind of thought so. :rolleyes:

Here's another pic from the side.... Looks decent.

http://carview-img01.bmcdn.jp/carlife/images/UserDiary/6974636/P1.jpg

Here's another pic from the side.... Looks decent.

http://carview-img01.bmcdn.jp/carlife/images/UserDiary/6974636/P1.jpg

now that looks nice wtg subaru

^^^ It looks big..... I like the rims. Now I just need an msrp and whether manuals are offeredhttp://www.subaruforester.org/vbulletin/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

The only thing I dont like is that it is definetly mainstream and looks similar to the competition, I liked the foresters uniqueness and that manuals are offered. The new design also seems to loose some of its off road boxy design. I also know that the weight increase cant be that big but it looks much larger and heavier. Hopefully the mpg doesnt suffer much. I also can see the base msrp going up a few grand......

Even with these complaints, this is one of the only suv's that has manual (assuming) and is in my price range, not to mention awd and good realibility. So as long as manuals are offered, I would probably still get it if the 08's are discontinued by the time I am ready to buy.

And of course we need a front shot; I find it interesting that someone followed this in japan and got a rear and side pic but didnt get a front pic.

I like it.

Note the windows are finally tinted, the dual exhaust, the beefy 5 spoke wheels, the should-be-great visibility, and the wider rear doors.

Overall, it's a boxy, practical shape, hopefully with enough visual interest from the front (I like the headlights) to add a bit of spice.

I may be the first to buy one. Hope they have good introductory deals.

I like it.

Note the windows are finally tinted, the dual exhaust, the beefy 5 spoke wheels, the should-be-great visibility, and the wider rear doors.

Overall, it's a boxy, practical shape, hopefully with enough visual interest from the front (I like the headlights) to add a bit of spice.

I may be the first to buy one. Hope they have good introductory deals.

Juice, you need to update your "vehicle" in your profile. :) Good deals at the outset? Maybe (?) at FitzMall...

Bob

Everything looks great thus far except the size (I knew it was inevitable). I was hoping it wouldn't grow too much in size, but it looks like it did by a good amount. So is the Tribeca down the pooper after this comes out?

So is the Tribeca down the pooper after this comes out?

No, but it will likely make life harder for the Tribeca—or more accurately, those trying to sell Tribecas.

I expect the next-gen Tribeca to also grow, but that's a couple of years off at best.

Bob

I love it. Will the price stay the same? H6 option?

Everything looks great thus far except the size (I knew it was inevitable). I was hoping it wouldn't grow too much in size, but it looks like it did by a good amount. So is the Tribeca down the pooper after this comes out?

It's a 5-seater so it's not meant to replace the Tribeca.

No, but it will likely make life harder for the Tribeca—or more accurately, those trying to sell Tribecas.

I expect the next-gen Tribeca to also grow, but that's a couple of years off at best.

Bob


Unless Forester comes with a flat six and 5-spd automatic transmssion, Forester and Tribeca are still quite different.

Here's another pic from the side.... Looks decent.

http://carview-img01.bmcdn.jp/carlife/images/UserDiary/6974636/P1.jpg
Looks like the Forester is also getting framed windows like the Impreza did.