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WTFchuck 12-29-2007, 05:56 PM i know some stuff by watching my tuner tune my car, well i'd like to get into it but i want to learn more like, what timing does and wastegate duty cycles and stuff like that... is there a place i can go to read up on this stuff?
drkramm 12-29-2007, 06:29 PM http://www.amazon.com/Induction-Performance-Practical-Supercharging-Turbocharging/dp/1859606911/ref=cm_syf_dtl_pl_4/102-7612055-0998565/102-7612055-0998565
gabedude 12-29-2007, 09:21 PM Get the Book by Jeff Hartman. Period.
williaty 12-30-2007, 02:37 AM I was actually MUCH more impressed by Engine Management: Advanced Tuning by Greg Banish (http://www.amazon.com/Engine-Management-Advanced-Greg-Banish/dp/1932494421/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1198996568&sr=1-1) than I was by the Hartman book (I own both, both are worth owning).
If you're cheap, and just looking for basic info, Cobb has some pdf's on their forums.
gabedude 12-30-2007, 10:44 AM If you're cheap, and just looking for basic info, Cobb has some pdf's on their forums.
Mick the Ginge's UTEC giude is much better.
gabedude 12-30-2007, 10:47 AM I was actually MUCH more impressed by Engine Management: Advanced Tuning by Greg Banish (http://www.amazon.com/Engine-Management-Advanced-Greg-Banish/dp/1932494421/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1198996568&sr=1-1) than I was by the Hartman book (I own both, both are worth owning).
That book is more about tuning it seems. Hartman covers so much info besides just tuning (real theory is in there). I'll have to check the Greg Banish book out to see what info it is mising or has added over Hartman.
From one of the customer reviews:
This book was a disappointment. The overview of EFI was fine, but the advanced tuning section was very thin. The author never got into any concrete tuning advice but just kept stressing to "give the engine what it wants". The rest of the book was spent on general EFI info that can be had for free by downloading Holley's tuning manual for the Commander 950 system.
From the other reviews it seems that it would be a good beginner book. Hell, most of the stuff in the Hartman book I already knew anyway.
WTFchuck 12-30-2007, 12:56 PM thanks guys, i ordered the greg banish book, and may order the hartman book as well
mickeyd2005 12-30-2007, 01:49 PM I learned how to tune Subarus using Mick the ginge's utec guide plus merchgod's (Tea cups) stickies on enginuity.
Freon 12-30-2007, 01:53 PM http://freon.shackspace.com/car/ecu%20and%20tuning/books.html
williaty 12-30-2007, 04:37 PM The Hartman book is good background info. I agree that it doesn't cover nearly enough actual tuning advice and practical theory as most of us on here are probably looking for. However, if you're someone who already understands carbureted tuning, the Hartman book would be a good stepping off point to EFI.
WTFchuck 12-30-2007, 05:50 PM enginuitys site is down
williaty 12-30-2007, 05:58 PM enginuitys site is down
Welcome to 2007 :lol:
If you need the software:
http://www.ken-gilbert.com/wrx/enginuity/
gabedude 12-31-2007, 03:40 AM The Hartman book is good background info. I agree that it doesn't cover nearly enough actual tuning advice and practical theory as most of us on here are probably looking for. However, if you're someone who already understands carbureted tuning, the Hartman book would be a good stepping off point to EFI.
Yeah it does help to understand carbs and carb tuning first before reading his book. He explains carb tuning as well, which is also nice. An engine is simply an air pump. With EFI, you just have more control over the full operating range of the engine than you do with a carb.
dynamix 01-01-2008, 06:06 AM I grew up tuning carbs (old git that i am) - that book is very useful for translating carb tuning to EFI.
Mick the Ginge's UTEC giude is much better.
This?
http://www.spryracing.com/FAQS/technical/enginemanagement/UTEC_Quick_Guide_12_02_2004-notes.pdf
mickeyd2005 01-04-2008, 02:42 PM This is his 2007 update.
http://www.mickandsarah.com/wrx/UTEC_Quick_Guide_Part_Deux-notes.pdf
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