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DS1 Motorsports 01-01-2008, 09:09 PM Well I got to work this morning in a snow storm so I knew nobody was gonna come in. Well I sold the JDM WRX trans I had in 98' L wagon so I needed to pull it out and get it boxed up so I pulled it and packaged it up.
Thats when the trouble all started...
My poor little 130k 2.2 has been leaking from every orifice it has for a while and I had planned on just doing a swap sometime this winter so I figured I'd pull it out too.
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc271/ds1motorsportsinc/radio%20flyer/Picture035.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc271/ds1motorsportsinc/radio%20flyer/Picture038.jpg
Then there was this EZ30R I've been sitting on for a while...
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc271/ds1motorsportsinc/radio%20flyer/Picture042.jpg
It is a tight fit
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc271/ds1motorsportsinc/radio%20flyer/Picture044.jpg
Well long story short I now have a 3.0 H6 98' Impreza wagon. I'm pulling the wiring out in the next week to send to the master (Paul @ ECS) to get it all sorted out and putting in a call to Phil @ Element about getting a hydra to get it all started.
I took some pics along the way, hope you enjoy ;)
Oh, and does anyone need a 2.2?
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc271/ds1motorsportsinc/radio%20flyer/Picture037.jpg
Dylan @ DS1
SubIELove 01-01-2008, 10:00 PM Cool, I like it.
DoctorNick 01-02-2008, 02:42 PM Now THATS gonna be fun :devil:
Turn in Concepts 01-02-2008, 03:12 PM Hmmmmm..... methinks it just needs to dump the exhaust out sidepipes!!! :devil:
kheff46 01-02-2008, 03:40 PM TURBO! TURBO! TURBO!
or open header NA EZ30. mmmmm... music!
--keith
LloydChristmas 01-02-2008, 11:56 PM Hey! I noticed you guys were located in woodridge, that is awesome. I used to go to PNL. But that seemed far away to where i am located in Naperville. But I am glad to see some Subaru Enthusiasts around my area. :banana:
PHATsuby 01-03-2008, 01:28 AM if you can get the Hydra plug in for that car(which you can) you should only have to move over like 20 wires from the H6 engine harness to the 98 engine plugs and you'll be good to go. Glad to see you found a use for one of those engines. :)
Ben
DS1 Motorsports 01-03-2008, 08:59 AM SubIELove- glad you like :)
DoctorNick- pita getting it in lol (no pun intended)
TiC- I have to make custom headers anyway... ;)
kheff 46- n/a & ITB's :devil:
LloydChristmas- We're right by the Lowes theater on woodward, stop by any time.
PHATsuby- I have the legacy bulkhead harness so I was gonna have Paul just wire it up for the fly by wire set up, they have a hydra that supposedly is plug and play.
Dylan @ DS1
Tyrael 01-03-2008, 10:29 PM last time i saw this thing it was in a crate... ima have to check it out tomorrow. see you around noon. call me if anything changes.
ol'skoolwrx 01-04-2008, 12:20 AM do you guys have any plans for a turbo or supercharger?
sick ass bulid
DS1 Motorsports 01-04-2008, 11:45 AM Tyrel- Part should be on the truck today, gimme a call before you head in.
ol'skool- Gonna stay all motor, we've got an ITB set up in the works with some nice long tube headers and a little motor work we should be looking at around 400whp on 104 octane.
-Dylan @ DS1
xtian 01-04-2008, 02:59 PM sick ass build dylan.. me wants. but me broke. HHAHAHAHAH
kheff46 01-04-2008, 03:19 PM kheff 46- n/a & ITB's :devil:
that works as long as it sounds like a porsche!!! ;)
Seraphinwolf 01-04-2008, 09:23 PM Damn you can't get a EZ GF first. I was planning on being one of the first. Oh talk to paul on the TBW there is a 2000 there with a Hydra and EZ that's just waiting on a tune that's running mechanical throtle. I'll be TBW on mine once I buy it but I"m also sticking stock ECU(piggybacked after it's running smooth) cause I'm swapping over almost all of the powertrain and updating as much of the car as I can. Besides a EZ should go in an OBS. Outback to Outback. Good luck.
-Gaddis
PHATsuby 01-05-2008, 01:45 AM Dylan, you want my fully built and sleeved motor? I may be selling it, just a single warm up cycle on it!;)
Ben
DS1 Motorsports 01-05-2008, 01:42 PM Seraphinwolf- The car sitting at ECS is Mick's, it's almost done. It has the older Hydra in it. There is a new version that will operate the FBW :)
PHATsuby -only if it's 11:1 ;)
Seraphinwolf 01-05-2008, 08:20 PM Seraphinwolf- The car sitting at ECS is Mick's, it's almost done. It has the older Hydra in it. There is a new version that will operate the FBW :)
PHATsuby -only if it's 11:1 ;)
Yeah he's just needing his replacement TPS. A good portion of the OEM ECU parts from him. Well when he gets his but to MA from GA so he can find out what he still has for parts. I've talked to him a couple times. I"m sticking OEM still though unless that new Hydra can run right off the bat and still run all the features of the eninge. I also have ODB-II and don't want to deal with the questions during inspection every year.
-Gaddis
ol'skoolwrx 01-05-2008, 08:46 PM ol'skool- Gonna stay all motor, we've got an ITB set up in the works with some nice long tube headers and a little motor work we should be looking at around 400whp on 104 octane.
-Dylan @ DS1
post up some more pics and keep us posted.
left footed whooten 01-06-2008, 04:51 PM Subscribed for a fellow Dylan and sweet project.
-Dylan
Jester808 01-06-2008, 06:27 PM I'll take the 2.2 off your hands.
Whiteghost 2.5 01-08-2008, 08:28 PM Phatsuby how much you selling your EZ for?
Josh
remowgn 01-08-2008, 11:17 PM Tyrel- Part should be on the truck today, gimme a call before you head in.
ol'skool- Gonna stay all motor, we've got an ITB set up in the works with some nice long tube headers and a little motor work we should be looking at around 400whp on 104 octane.
-Dylan @ DS1
Seems a little optimistic, even at 11:1... but i'm still interested. Can't wait to see the results.
PHATsuby 01-09-2008, 12:04 AM Phatsuby how much you selling your EZ for?
Josh
PM'd you Josh.
good luck Dylan, can't wait to see the progress and results!
Ben
DS1 Motorsports 01-11-2008, 01:36 PM Seraphinwolf- The new hydra is supposed to be able to run everything avcs and the variable valve lift with the FBW stuff too, but no OBDII. :(
Jester808- PM me about the 2.2
remwgn- With the head work, cams and some really good gas we should be good to go. :)
PHATsuby- Thanks :)
Jester808 01-13-2008, 10:12 PM PM sent. :banana:
HeliKelby 01-14-2008, 09:04 PM Very Nice! Keep us posted
DS1 Motorsports 01-17-2008, 11:55 PM I figure I'll keep adding info as I figure things out.
today's findings are if you get the SVX engine mounting plates you can use Group N or Cusco engine mounts instead of the sloppy EZ30 mounts. :)
-Dylan
JDMCRX 02-03-2008, 11:00 AM Bump for more info on this swap :)
Seraphinwolf 02-04-2008, 07:24 PM I figure I'll keep adding info as I figure things out.
today's findings are if you get the SVX engine mounting plates you can use Group N or Cusco engine mounts instead of the sloppy EZ30 mounts. :)
-Dylan
Interesting. Maybe I"ll have to add that to the list of SVX pards I need to order. Cept the rest actually are for my SVX. Good thing to know though. Should post in the H-6 build thread.
-Gaddis
DS1 Motorsports 02-05-2008, 01:25 PM ^ actually got them in and found out the EG33 plates have the same twist as the EJ series do, just add an extra mounting ear. :(
The EZ30(D or R) use a flat plate style mount, so it looks like I'm off to the machinist again :(
-Dylan
Jester808 02-07-2008, 10:28 PM I am teh Class A Machinist :D .......jus sayin ;p.
DS1 Motorsports 02-08-2008, 01:34 PM ^^ really... :D
PM me a phone number maybe we can work a trade ;)
Big_DeWeY 02-08-2008, 03:50 PM Please do ITB's on this thing. It may become the only NA I ever have respect for :P
DS1 Motorsports 02-09-2008, 12:44 PM :lol:
DrinkAV8 02-09-2008, 04:57 PM Nice dylan.
Hey, I'm looking for a cheap L to build. Give me a call or PM if you have one laying about.
DS1 Motorsports 02-10-2008, 03:08 PM ^^ You can buy the green monster back ;) :lol:
Turn in Concepts 02-12-2008, 08:15 PM You're still not done with this? I expected it to be running last week.
Big_DeWeY 02-13-2008, 08:23 AM Hey now, Ol' boy's got a lot on his plate.
DS1 Motorsports 02-13-2008, 02:03 PM You're still not done with this? I expected it to be running last week.
Hey I was busy finding a cure for cancer dang it! :lol:
I ordered my bulkhead harness this week, probably get the hydra ordered next week till the open ecu guys show the ez30r some love. :sadbanana:
The big question is what gears to run in the 5mt (I hate 6mt's) and what final drive? Here are my options, now remember I'll be making well over 350 ft/lbs when I'm done.
PPG Helical syncro
Modena Dog Box (not very streetable)
Kazz (very short but I don't mind shifting alot)
Final drives: 3:70 / 3:90 / 4:11 / 4:44
Maybe I should start at 4:44 and work up :lol:
-Dylan
Turn in Concepts 02-13-2008, 03:09 PM Hey I was busy finding a cure for cancer dang it! :lol:
I ordered my bulkhead harness this week, probably get the hydra ordered next week till the open ecu guys show the ez30r some love. :sadbanana:
The big question is what gears to run in the 5mt (I hate 6mt's) and what final drive? Here are my options, now remember I'll be making well over 350 ft/lbs when I'm done.
PPG Helical syncro
Modena Dog Box (not very streetable)
Kazz (very short but I don't mind shifting alot)
Final drives: 3:70 / 3:90 / 4:11 / 4:44
Maybe I should start at 4:44 and work up :lol:
-Dylan
PPG with 4.11s
Big_DeWeY 02-13-2008, 03:26 PM 6 Speed cuz now you're making enough torque to drag around that extra weight and 6 speeds give you more street cred Playa!!! <jk>
DS1 Motorsports 02-13-2008, 05:10 PM ^^ umm umm.... n/m :lol:
8Complex 02-13-2008, 05:45 PM 5 speed gearset in 6MT box?
BTW, dog gears are sexy... nevermind that not everyone can drive them all the time. I would love to drive one every day.
Jester808 02-13-2008, 06:54 PM I love dogbox, pure secks ;p. Loud, crunchy......nice :D
I would love to do work for DS1 :D. Damn, we live so far from each other. I got word Machine Shops are closing like crazy up in the north, the only good thing about living here in Houston is the abundance of work and pay in machine shops.
I might just have to fly to Illinois just to see you get that H6 up and going :D.
thefoos 02-18-2008, 09:37 PM Hey I was busy finding a cure for cancer dang it! :lol:
I ordered my bulkhead harness this week, probably get the hydra ordered next week till the open ecu guys show the ez30r some love.
-Dylan
Um, Check out the first line item...The 06 Tribeca is supported now.
http://www.romraider.com/Documentation/SupportedECUs
GDB-E-06 02-18-2008, 11:00 PM Go with a 5 speed cause I have one laying around.
bl_easy 02-23-2008, 12:16 PM I might want that old 2.2 motor. What are you looking for?
DS1 Motorsports 02-25-2008, 01:22 PM ^^ jester has dibs on it :(
I've decided on a 5m with syncro gear set with really short ratios and a 3:90 final drive, this combo should net me a few more mph per gear.
I now have 2 EZ30R's in the shop, thinking about tearing one down and doing a little pictoral as I do the engine work. :)
BTW- A new EZ30 project just started here too :devil:
-Dylan
DoctorNick 02-25-2008, 03:05 PM Oh, what new project?
My 207 is out of the car, I was pondering a 89 oct race-car solution :devil:
Big_DeWeY 02-25-2008, 03:14 PM 207? what wrong with it >:)
ol'skool- Gonna stay all motor, we've got an ITB set up in the works with some nice long tube headers and a little motor work we should be looking at around 400whp on 104 octane.
-Dylan @ DS1
:disco:Nice...Are you fabricating everything yourself? TWM has some nice setups...you've probably checked em out already, if not here's a link
http://www.twminduction.com/Home/Home-FR.html
Below are some pics of their setup for a flat six Porsche
http://www.twminduction.com/ThrottleBody/ThrottleBody.imgs/3006_on_dyno.jpg
http://www.twminduction.com/ThrottleBody/ThrottleBody.imgs/porsche_dual_sw.jpg
DS1 Motorsports 02-27-2008, 12:12 PM ^^ I've talked to them a little bit, but pricey!
STi GUi 06-25-2008, 09:18 AM Hey mate :)
Just wanted to see how this project is going. Any news on the ITB setup???
I've always dreamed about building a crazy ITB high comp NA EZ30R....
*Grabs tissue box*
Anyway... Lol... Let us know how it's going :D
Cheers,
Nader.
DS1 Motorsports 06-25-2008, 12:44 PM We have the plates done to use TWM Porsche t-bodies.
We should be fitting them up a in July.
-Dylan
DFL2.5RS 06-25-2008, 08:45 PM Very cool project! I'm looking forward to seeing some pictures and numbers once it's a little further along :)
STi GUi 06-25-2008, 09:48 PM We have the plates done to use TWM Porsche t-bodies.
We should be fitting them up a in July.
-Dylan
Mate, I can't wait to see the results :devil:
Can I ask how much the TWM setup cost, and how much more work needs to be done to fit the throttles onto the EZ???
Cheers,
Nader.
Seraphinwolf 06-25-2008, 10:22 PM So when you gonna post some you know edits to the start of the thread to update that you sold the EZ out of your GF and all future postings will be or a new thread will be of the shop car with the EZ30D not the R. MWAHAAHHAHAHAAAAAAA I WILL be the first EZ30R into a GF!
-Gaddis
DS1 Motorsports 06-26-2008, 01:03 PM :lol: I have another R ;)
Seraphinwolf 06-26-2008, 06:56 PM :lol: I have another R ;)
Damn! Well I'm still gonna try to get this running first. ALL YOUR GF 3.0R ARE DRIVE BY ME!
-Gaddis
zer0psi 06-30-2008, 02:52 AM Subscribing.
Gotta track the progress of another DS1 car besides my own. :D
iwishihadasti 07-22-2008, 01:18 AM nice work!
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