Spycam: 2009 Cadillac CTS-V

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This lightly camouflaged 2009 CTS-V test mule that was spotted somewhere in Colorado gives a good look at what the production model will look like when it goes on sale sometime within the next year. Deviation from the formula that made the first CTS-V a hit is minimal -- mesh upper and lower grille, larger front fascia with bigger fog lamps, side skirts, and a pair of large exhaust pipes sticking out from the restyled rear fascia.

The front camo does a reasonable job of concealing the hood bulge that accommodates the Corvette ZR1's 600-some horsepower supercharged 6.2-liter V-8's blower (for the CTS-V, the engine may be detuned to somewhere around 580 horsepower), making it look like it's placed too far forward due to an optical illusion. In reality, it is placed just over the engine as it should be, as can be seen in the photo at right. Additionally, a six-speed auto is expected to be offered in the CTS-V for the first time alonside a six-speed manual.

The aggressive black ten-spoke wheels are unlike any Cadillac has used on past production models, but these go together well with the blacked-out grille and underscore Cadillac's aim offering M5-beating performance at an M3 price.



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Artist Rendition
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What's up with all the strange effects "..somewhere in Colorado..."...the edges of the picture look like some kind of metallic effect.
Those "air extractors" are horrible. It's cheesy having to explain to friends what nonfunctional components on a car "do". In the artist rendering there is actually paint behind those things, making it pretty much like a gross lapel pin.

Want!

Awesome!

Apparently, GM is coming out with 4 new 6.2L SC motors all for different applications. LSA for the CTS-V, LS8 for the Camaro and Z06, a third for HD trucks (forget the code), and the LS9 for the ZR1. Read it on a Z06 forum...

I am sure this car will be amazing, I just find the renderings of it so far to fall far short of what it will probably really look like. The new CTS is gorgeous - too bad all these renderings make it look too much like the old model.

These hi hp cars today are great, but this is overkill.

These hi hp cars today are great, but this is overkill.

I would have to agree that it is beginning to get out of hand - but if the motors can be built for torque as well as HP (like this one), they can be great fun without having to go ridiculously fast. While I love the V10 in my M5, and it would be great if we had an autobahn, it's simply too high revving and too long-geared to get pleasure without severely breaking the law and putting others in danger. So, my M5's potential goes basically unused here in the land of traffic and 55 MPH limits.

Caught! - thanks edmunds

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I would have to agree that it is beginning to get out of hand - but if the motors can be built for torque as well as HP (like this one), they can be great fun without having to go ridiculously fast. While I love the V10 in my M5, and it would be great if we had an autobahn, it's simply too high revving and too long-geared to get pleasure without severely breaking the law and putting others in danger. So, my M5's potential goes basically unused here in the land of traffic and 55 MPH limits.

you are absolutly correct. lets trade cars, il give you my ms3 for you m5, then you will be able to use the full potential of your car:lol:

Man , this could definitely be my next car. It looks pretty impressive too. As much as I am skeptical of American quality, you have to like what GM is serving up these days.

I'd rather see a variation of the stock grille rather than the wire mesh.

Other than that it looks somewhat agressive. Not bad.

This is going to be the best all-around hi-perf sedan, IMHO. You can park it just about anywhere, mod it easily, use it for business, and be just as fast or faster than the euro-competitors - either around a track or in a straight line.

As long as the real thing meets expectations, I will trade the M5 (my biz car) for the CTS-V with the 6-speed Auto. My fun car will have 2-doors, a 6-speed manual, and a "Spyder" roof - coming this spring...

Lucky SOB! :mad:

:D

I would have to agree that it is beginning to get out of hand - but if the motors can be built for torque as well as HP (like this one), they can be great fun without having to go ridiculously fast. While I love the V10 in my M5, and it would be great if we had an autobahn, it's simply too high revving and too long-geared to get pleasure without severely breaking the law and putting others in danger. So, my M5's potential goes basically unused here in the land of traffic and 55 MPH limits.*cough*Race Track*cough*

Awesome!

Apparently, GM is coming out with 4 new 6.2L SC motors all for different applications. LSA for the CTS-V, LS8 for the Camaro and Z06, a third for HD trucks (forget the code), and the LS9 for the ZR1. Read it on a Z06 forum...

And the new L76 in the G8...

loving the mesh grills

I should be putting on my flame-suit on before I write this, but I actually like the looks of the stock CTS better than this V-series version.
I know this is going to be a beast that should be able to take on the M5 or M3, and yet probably cost thousands less, but I was never a fan of the mesh grill on the first generation V. Looks actually cheap in my opinion.

:shrug:

I should be putting on my flame-suit on before I write this, but I actually like the looks of the stock CTS better than this V-series version.
I know this is going to be a beast that should be able to take on the M5 or M3, and yet probably cost thousands less, but I was never a fan of the mesh grill on the first generation V. Looks actually cheap in my opinion.

:shrug:

+1. That mesh is terrible, but nothing a can of spray paint couldn't fix (I hope). A blacked-out CTS front fascia with some fender flaring would have been a better route, but I suppose that would cost too much.

This is one product from GM I have always loved. I may be tempted to drop some cash on this car. But if they say M3 prices, it better be in the high 40's, low 50's

Caught! - thanks edmunds

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Looks great!

Looks like a really short trunk...maybe it's just me.

I think its just a long sloping, coupe-like rear windshield and rear quarters that make the trunk look small. I bet it extends well forward. Might suck getting large items in and out of it.

Overall I'm impressed so far.

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Cadillac has revealed its all-new CTS-V based on its recently-redesigned CTS sedan. As predicted by Leftlane several months ago, power comes from GM's new 6.2 liter supercharged LSA motor. A rating of 550 horsepower and 550 pound-feet of torque should satisfy Cadillac's most demanding customers, giving the BMW M5 and Mercedes E63 some serious competition.


“The CTS-V represents the full extension of our design, technology and performance capabilities,” says Jim Taylor, Cadillac general manager. “The V-Series takes the award-winning CTS sport sedan and elevates it to a position within the club of the world’s most exclusive and capable cars.”

The exterior is highlighted by a mesh grille and lower intake, a sculpted hood with engine bulge, 19-inch wheels, wider fenders, and quad tailpipes.

GM has carried its Magnetic Ride Control (MRC) suspension system over to the CTS-V. The technology — which also appears in the new Corvette ZR1 — uses shocks controlled by electro-magnets, rather than mechanical valves. This makes MRC the world’s fastest-reacting suspension technology, according to GM.

Electronic sensors at all four wheels “read the road” every millisecond, making constant adjustments to damping to create a smooth ride when appropriate, and a firm ride when required. The technology prevents body roll during hard corners, yet keeps passengers comfortable while cruising.

Another electronic system — Performance Traction Management — is a traction control technology borrowed from championship racing. While most traction control programs monitor and control wheel slip for enhanced drivability in poor conditions, PTM regulates torque delivery to instantly match the available tire grip for maximum acceleration.

The sedan's Brembo brakes feature six pistons per caliper up front and four per caliper at the back. Combined with grippy Michelin Pilot Sport 2 tires, the CTS-V has massive stopping ability.

Transmission choices include either a Tremec TR6060 six-speed manual or a Hydra-Matic 6L90 six-speed automatic with steering-wheel-mounted paddle shifters. Manually-equipped CTS-Vs will tip the scales at 4,200 pounds, with the automatic adding another 100. The engine's immense power is owed in part to a sixth-generation Eaton supercharger, which minimizes the added noise previously associated with supercharged engines, and tightly controls intake air temperature for better performance.

“From the very start, engineers were cognizant of the role a high-performance engine plays in supporting the qualities customers expect in a Cadillac,” said Jim Taylor, Cadillac general manager. “The supercharged LSA engine delivers outstanding performance, but maximum power didn’t come at the expense of refinement or quietness.”

The car has Recaro performance driving seats, with 14-way adjustment and pneumatic bolster controls. The seats, steering wheel, and shifter also feature microfiber material inserts, which mimic the appearance of suede without the required maintenance and ease of damage.

Electronic features include a 40-gigabyte hard drive, advanced navigation system with a “pop-up” screen, Bose digital surround audio, and Bluetooth.

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wow thats nice

This gets Recaro seats, but the new STI doesn't. What does that say SoA? Yep, you suck!

4200lbs but god thats nice. caddy gets the recaros but the sti doesnt lol. Id love to have one of those. lol bet me to it ^

i think they should have just blacked out the cts grill. it would look siiick

Oh snap!

Cadillac to BMW ///M and Mercedes AMG: What now, beyotch?!?

550hp, 550tq? Impressive.

Vostok 7

Oh snap!

Cadillac to BMW ///M and Mercedes AMG: What now, beyotch?!?

550hp, 550tq? Impressive.

Vostok 7

Yeah! Way to kick the ass of a 3+ year old M5!

I don't see this taking sales from the M5. I could see it competing w/ the E55 because they both make tons of torque down low and it is available w/ a 6MT. The M5 is a different animal w/ the 8200 RPM V10, though.

~~Quentin

Yeah! Way to kick the ass of a 3+ year old M5!

I don't see this taking sales from the M5. I could see it competing w/ the E55 because they both make tons of torque down low and it is available w/ a 6MT. The M5 is a different animal w/ the 8200 RPM V10, though.

~~Quentin
The M5 is a beast for sure. And it was available with the 6MT as well, but it sucked major bad with one :lol:

Vostok 7

I'm not feeling the interior at all... or the tacky "GM" badge they tried to tuck away near the side skirt :(

Luckily for me I can't afford one so none of this wil keep me up at night :D

one of the only american cars i would interested in purchasing some day. by some day i mean when im like 65

This gets Recaro seats, but the new STI doesn't. What does that say SoA? Yep, you suck!

I think you would be better off selling your car and just buying a Recaro seat if you love it that much. Feels good in front of the TV and has good support for when you reach for your beer.

Ian

I think you would be better off selling your car and just buying a Recaro seat if you love it that much. Feels good in front of the TV and has good support for when you reach for your beer.

Ian

I'm avidly looking for 2nd generation GTI/GLI Recaro seats to make an office chair.

~~Quentin

Killer!

I still prefer the cleaner look of the regular CTS grill, but the rest is damn sweet.

I want.........

I'll admit I am impressed.

Where does this leave the STS-V? I can't imagine them putting out an STS with even more power...

Got to give them credit. They are really working hard to shake that "old man" image.

Couple good pics here;

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man those suede recaros look comfy!

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Hmmm... looks like a real warrior. American muscle. Hello 1959.

ive always liked these..now the power even crazier

nice, real nice..
Gas guzzler tax?
Vostok7 - u should take your words back.. BMW presented above and AMG is close to release TT version of their 6.2L AMG V8..
Don't get me started on V10 RS6, which is also close in power to Caddy...
I love this caddy though.. Too bad gas prices are ridiculous these days.. Maybe with GM Card and GM employee discounts and 0 apr for 6 years its a dream car mid-class american can pull off.

This is a home run by any stretch of the imagination.. Way to go!!

GM will put Recaros in a CTS-V...but not in the Corvette ZR-1... They'll design and install a slick interior in a CTS-V but not a ZR-1......sigh*

^^^^^^ hahaha. anyone else think this caddy would look wayyy better if they blacked out the normal cts grill?

That interior is pretty dope. I'm pretty freaking impressed.

Any word on pricing or performance estimates?

Congrats comparing a stock car to a tuner modified one :rolleyes:

Which one is better, this apple or this orange?

Gpower is tuned like AMG is. ;) I heard that G is gona replace M BMW's. But not sure.

^^^^^^ hahaha. anyone else think this caddy would look wayyy better if they blacked out the normal cts grill?

+1
i've never been a fan of shiny or chrome grills, the Caddy symbol would also stand out more with a blacked out grill

Gpower is tuned like AMG is. ;) I heard that G is gona replace M BMW's. But not sure.

Gpower is tuned like Lingenfelter is. AMG is tuned like M is, which is also like the "V" stuff is for the Cadillacs. Gpower is not going to replace the BMW M series as it's been around since 1983 and hasn't done so and is not even part of BMW. BMW is not going to replace their performance division with one that doesn't even carry the BMW roundel.

Ok, maybe.

Beautiful car, too bad they're garbage, like virtually any American car.

Gotta love the domestic hatred. If it had a BMW badge, everybody would be singing it's praises.

I, for one, want one badly!

Beautiful car, too bad they're garbage, like virtually any American car.

This is what is great about people, the ability to embrace new ideas, like maybe not all American cars are garbage. I can hardly wait for you to become the next interweb company founder, since you're full of optimism and can see true value.

I for one like it and would not hesitate to pick it over what is most like a lot more expensive M5. Just so I can enjoy my smugness that clueless types wrongly believe an M5 is better because it is more expensive.

Also didn't that 6 spd manual M5 have all kinds of haphazard traction control things just to make the car work without axle tramp?

looks good! I Approve!

My fav. part of the car.... The suede steering wheel. I've been wanting one bad for my STi for a long time.

Beautiful car, too bad they're garbage, like virtually any American car.
You clearly know 0 about cars.

Beautiful car, too bad they're garbage, like virtually any American car.

Yeah, garbage. Unlike those $10,000 DVD transports, right Audiosavvy? :diaf:

Love the new CTS and this CTS-V. I just hope that their nav/OS system is improved. The one time I saw it boot up, it was SO SLOW and had horrible frame rate - did not scream luxury at all. The rest of the car was absolutely fantastic though.

My fav. part of the car.... The suede steering wheel. I've been wanting one bad for my STi for a long time.

Can't u just have a place that does car interiors wrap ur steering wheel in suede?? :confused:

Can't u just have a place that does car interiors wrap ur steering wheel in suede?? :confused:

I'm sure I could but I don't know if I would trust any of the shops around here to do it. Plus, I am saving and collecting parts for a Green right now so at the moment i'm too cheap to pay big bucks to have that done:lol:. Maybe later.

+1
i've never been a fan of shiny or chrome grills, the Caddy symbol would also stand out more with a blacked out grill

Caddy should offer a black chrome option for the grille and greenhouse trim.

Yeah, garbage. Unlike those $10,000 DVD transports, right Audiosavvy? :diaf:

Zing!:lol: (Oppo FTW!)

You can say what you want, but this car is a statement to what GM can do if allowed to run. The syling is unique, the performance is sure to please, and its going to be a great car. Luxury meets muscle car. I can dig that any day.

i wish it didnt snow where i live... :(

Looks really good. The thing you have to keep in mind is the current M5 is 85-95k car the current CTS-V is 53-56k. I would expect the new CTS-V to be 56-60k.

While the styling of all cassies now is polarizing they continue to offere good performance for the dollar.

wonder if the new one will depreciate like the current CTS-V. You can pick up 05's/06's for under 30k now.

Amazing car. People who complain about oh the gas-guzzler, or oh the nav system...

This is an american sedan with 550 HP, a 6-speed manual, and suspension tuned for the track!!!!!

10 years ago this was unthinkable.

That said, I'd be satisfied with spending half the cash and getting a 360HP G8 GT.

But that's probably because I can't spend 60k on a car.

very sweet car. well done Caddy! I agree with most about the blackened CTS grill.

I've taken a hard drive in the old CTS-V, and was quite impressed by the power. I think I'd soil myself in this new one. Based on the responses in this thread so far, it seems as though this Caddy will be a seller, at least with wealthy subie owners!

I like it. Too bad this and the Corvette are the only GM cars I'd ever consider.


oh and the Cobalt SS srt-4 supercharged!

Amazing car. People who complain about oh the gas-guzzler, or oh the nav system...

This is an american sedan with 550 HP, a 6-speed manual, and suspension tuned for the track!!!!!

10 years ago this was unthinkable.

That said, I'd be satisfied with spending half the cash and getting a 360HP G8 GT.

But that's probably because I can't spend 60k on a car.


I have to quote you, becuase my post was going to be nearly identical to yours! :banana:

so good to see GM trying to steer themselves in the right direction.
I long for the day we can say this for the rest of the lineup, not just Corvette, & Caddy

That interior looks like a disaster. WTH is up with all those buttons? You're completely surrounded by buttons :sadbanana:

:confused: I thought the previous CTS-V was supposed to compete with the M3 and C55. Now they are saying its supposed to compete with the E63 and M5. I'm assuming that means it'll have their price to match :( $85,000 anyone?

Either way, kudos to Caddy for listening to the customers.

That is super sexy. 4200 lbs is kind of ridiculous, but still, wow.

all this blabber about the chrome grille...

hmmmmmmmm I wonder how that could be fixed easily..... hmmmmm

Congrats comparing a stock car to a tuner modified one :rolleyes:

Which one is better, this apple or this orange?

bingo!

That interior looks like a disaster. WTH is up with all those buttons? You're completely surrounded by buttons :sadbanana:
americans love buttons, duh! hell i want to go to a dealer just to push the buttons

That interior looks like a disaster. WTH is up with all those buttons? You're completely surrounded by buttons :sadbanana:

Better than burying simple functions under 5 layers of iDrive BS. The buttons aren't THAT bad, and it's not like they don't say what they do on them. If that's the only gripe, then congrats to Cady.

Personally, I will take one in whatever color they want to give me one in ;).

























Except Mary Kay pink :lol:.

:confused: I thought the previous CTS-V was supposed to compete with the M3 and C55. Now they are saying its supposed to compete with the E63 and M5. I'm assuming that means it'll have their price to match :( $85,000 anyone?

Either way, kudos to Caddy for listening to the customers.

i once heard the previous ctsv was supposed to be m5 size, power and luxury for m3 money. no comment on how close they came to that goal and i think its actually between the two beemers size wise.

That interior looks like a disaster. WTH is up with all those buttons? You're completely surrounded by buttons :sadbanana:

i luv me some more buttons. the more buttons you have, the more you can press, hello!!?!? who doesnt like pressing buttons?

americans love buttons, duh! hell i want to go to a dealer just to push the buttons

Better than burying simple functions under 5 layers of iDrive BS. The buttons aren't THAT bad, and it's not like they don't say what they do on them. If that's the only gripe, then congrats to Cady.


i luv me some more buttons. the more buttons you have, the more you can press, hello!!?!? who doesnt like pressing buttons?

Agreed. I wouldn't mind it if my car had the cockpit of a boeing 747.

plunk10 likes to be surrounded by buttons.

The CTS is close to the 5-series in size. The STS is close to the 7. Direct comparisons have been hard to nail down.

The old CTS-V was a direct competitor to the M5 in power, handling, size, weight. The BMW was a nicer interior for materials, but the features of it lagged far behind the CTS. As far as real world performance, the old-school pushrod pulled on the M5 without much drama. Trust me, I was in the BMW at the time.

[quote]Detroit Auto Show: 2009 Cadillac CTS-V rockets into Detroit with 550hp

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Cadillac today showed off the redesigned 2009 Cadillac CTS-V at the 2008 Detroit Auto Show. The new CTS-V will arrive in dealerships in the fourth-quarter of 2008 and will go head-to-head with BMW’S M5 and the Mercedes-Benz E 63 AMG. Like the E63, the CTS-V will be available with a six-speed automatic [complete with paddle-shift control], and like the M5 will be available with a proper six-speed manual transmission.

Powered by a 6.2L LSA supercharged V8 engine, the 2009 CTS-V produces 550 horsepower (50 more than the M5 and 43 more than the E 63) and 550 lb-ft of torque. The car (http://www.egmcartech.com/2008/01/14/detroit-auto-show-2009-cadillac-cts-v-rockets-into-detroit-with-550hp/#) also includes a new technology called Magnetic Ride Control, an industry-first Performance Traction Management program.

As in the new Corvette ZR1, the Magnetic Ride Control will combine a comfortable right with track ready performance.
For the first time ever, Cadillac will be offering the CTS-V outside of North America including exports to Europe, the Middle East and Asia. No word on whether the next STS-V will share the CTS-V’s motor or get a higher-powered motor.

Press Release:

2009 CTS-V: CADILLAC’S ULTIMATE EXPRESSION OF PERFORMANCE AND LUXURY

DETROIT – As the new CTS sport sedan (http://www.egmcartech.com/2008/01/14/detroit-auto-show-2009-cadillac-cts-v-rockets-into-detroit-with-550hp/#) earns accolades and new owners, Cadillac takes the next leap forward by premiering the 2009 CTS-V, the brand’s ultimate expression of performance and luxury.

Launching in the fourth quarter of 2008, the all-new CTS-V intends to combine the serious performance of an elite sports car with the poise and elegance of a prestigious luxury sedan. Part of Cadillac’s acclaimed V-Series of high-performance models, CTS-V delivers an estimated 550 horsepower (410 kW). More than just power, CTS-V also includes a comprehensive suite of technical and design enhancements, including Magnetic Ride Control, an industry-first Performance Traction Management program and the addition of a new automatic transmission with paddle-shift control.

“The CTS-V represents the full extension of our design, technology and performance capabilities,” says Jim Taylor, Cadillac general manager. “The V-Series takes the award-winning CTS sport sedan and elevates it to a position within the club of the world’s most exclusive and capable cars.”

As an all-new version of the CTS sport sedan was prepared for 2008, Cadillac engineers and designers began to scheme a new CTS-V that would reach much higher in terms of performance and luxury. Through the original CTS-V, Cadillac proved it could develop a very potent, high-performance sedan. The challenge for the 2009 model was enhancing every aspect in a comprehensive manner, along with reaching higher performance limits.

Several key technical and design elements combine to transform the already highly capable CTS into the new V-Series. Like the existing CTS, the V-Series is the product of an intensive development process across North America and Europe, including famed test tracks and millions of miles of road. Supporting Cadillac’s ongoing global expansion, the 2009 CTS-V is planned to be offered outside North America for the first time, including exports to Europe, the Middle East and Asia.

Sophisticated technical enhancements

The 2009 Cadillac CTS-V features the world’s fastest-reacting suspension technology, Magnetic Ride Control (MRC). It uses shocks controlled by electro-magnets, rather than mechanical valves, greatly accelerating response time. Electronic sensors at all four wheels literally “read the road” every millisecond, making constant adjustments to damping to create virtually instantaneous and extremely precise control of body motions. This is of particular benefit for a high-performance sedan, helping to keep the car very composed during hard cornering, acceleration, braking and other dynamic maneuvers.

MRC technology first appeared on the Cadillac STS performance sedan and has been used on some of the world’s most celebrated cars, including the Chevrolet Corvette and a select few European sports cars.
Enabling the precise control expected in a high-performance sedan, the CTS-V features Performance Traction Management system, borrowed from championship racing teams. This technology uses advanced electronics to manage engine torque for optimal traction during acceleration. In situations such as acceleration from a stop or exiting corners, Performance Traction Management regulates torque delivery for the best possible launch.

Performance Traction Management uses the same sort of electronics as stability control programs such as Cadillac’s StabiliTrak system, but applies it in a different manner. Rather than monitoring and controlling wheel slip to assist in stopping or slowing the car, PTM regulates torque delivery to instantly match the available tire grip for maximum acceleration.

CTS-V also includes sophisticated braking and tire systems, in partnership with two companies renown for high-performance technology: Brembo and Michelin. Brembo brakes are at all four corners and include powerful, six-piston calipers in the front and four-piston calipers in the rear. Michelin worked with Cadillac engineers to develop its acclaimed Pilot Sport 2 (PS2) summer tire for CTS-V and its 19-inch wheels.

And, of course, there is the matter of power. It has increased nearly 35 percent for the ’09 CTS-V, via a new 6.2L LSA supercharged V-8 engine generating an estimated 550 hp (410 kW) and 550 lb.-ft. (745 Nm) of torque. The engine delivers this power with remarkable refinement. A sixth-generation Eaton supercharger minimizes the added noise previously associated with supercharged engines, and tightly controls intake air temperature for optimal performance.

Transmission choices include either a six-speed manual or an exclusive, six-speed automatic with steering-wheel-mounted paddle shifters. It is the first automatic offered on the CTS-V.

Accentuated design elements

The 2009 CTS-V extends Cadillac’s acclaimed design language, both inside and out. The V-Series includes all the elements of the CTS sport sedan’s well received cabin, while adding some elegant and purposeful accents (http://www.egmcartech.com/2008/01/14/detroit-auto-show-2009-cadillac-cts-v-rockets-into-detroit-with-550hp/#).

V-Series will offer Recaro performance driving seats, providing excellent support for spirited driving and adding to the luxurious and purposeful interior. These new, 14-way adjustable performance seats include pneumatic bolster controls in the seat cushion and backrest.

A microfiber material is added to the steering wheel, seats and shifter, providing the soft feel and luxurious appearance of suede without suede’s inherent drawbacks of difficult care and moisture sensitivity. These accents on the steering wheel, seat inserts and shifter are elegant to the touch and help support high-performance driving.

The car’s integrated center stack is trimmed with a new Obsidian material that is also applied to the center console and door trim. Just like every CTS, the V-Series includes a hand-stitched instrument panel, door trim and center console. Leading-edge infotainment features, including a 40-gigabyte hard drive, advanced navigation system with a “pop-up” screen and Bose digital surround audio, extend to the V-Series, as well as factory-installed Bluetooth capability.

The exterior of the new CTS-V amplifies the assertive stance and elegant details of the standard car, and communicates the car’s remarkable capabilities. The dihedral Cadillac grille is larger to enable more air intake and features a satin finish. The raised hood encompasses the supercharged engine, and new front and rear fascias identify the vehicle (http://www.egmcartech.com/2008/01/14/detroit-auto-show-2009-cadillac-cts-v-rockets-into-detroit-with-550hp/#) as a V-Series. The car’s 19-inch wheels enhance its stance on the road.

The founding member of the V-Series, CTS-V was initially offered in 2004 and sold primarily in North America through the 2007 model year. The supercharged STS-V and XLR-V were added in 2006 to make the V-Series an exclusive trio of models all capable of zero-to-60 acceleration in less than five seconds with enhanced overall performance and luxury features.

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Damn, do I want one badly!

Any price estimates yet?

Current Vis 53k, I'd expect somewhere similar maybe 56k?

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Any price estimates yet?

they haven't said yet, which usually means it'll be higher than you think.

For some reason, I'm thinking base price around $66,000, climbing quickly into the $70s. fully optioned out, $80,500.

Current Vis 53k, I'd expect somewhere similar maybe 56k?

I honestly think a few thousand more than that even.
The first CTS-V was the one that got Caddy back into the game, this car doesn't have to compete on price to get sales, which means to be it's gonna be competitive, but not an outstanding deal. (still WAY cheaper than the M5 that it's sized against)

CTS-V spotted in the wild:
http://desert-motors.com/cpg/t...m=132 (http://desert-motors.com/cpg/thumbnails.php?album=132)

http://desert-motors.com/cpg/albums/tempphotos/pavs-2008-01-26/normal_IMG_5288.jpg

http://desert-motors.com/cpg/albums/tempphotos/pavs-2008-01-26/normal_IMG_5293.jpg

http://desert-motors.com/cpg/albums/tempphotos/pavs-2008-01-26/normal_IMG_5295.jpg

http://desert-motors.com/cpg/albums/tempphotos/pavs-2008-01-26/normal_IMG_5298.jpg

http://desert-motors.com/cpg/albums/tempphotos/pavs-2008-01-26/normal_IMG_5305.jpg

http://desert-motors.com/cpg/albums/tempphotos/pavs-2008-01-26/normal_IMG_5310.jpg

http://desert-motors.com/cpg/albums/tempphotos/pavs-2008-01-26/normal_IMG_5319.jpg

For some reason, the way that the dash curves reminds me of the "fallopian tube" style on the Tribeca.

Were they trying to scramble radar when they came up with the body work for this?

I think it will be pushing $70k. The Vette w/ a near identical EG is over $100k.

~~Quentin

Were they trying to scramble radar when they came up with the body work for this?

Yes. Cadillac's "Art and Science" design language debuted with the Evoq concept (and was then continued with the Cien), which was intended to look like a stealth fighter.

will have. WILL.

sam

CTS-V spotted in the wild:
http://desert-motors.com/cpg/t...m=132 (http://desert-motors.com/cpg/thumbnails.php?album=132)

http://desert-motors.com/cpg/albums/tempphotos/pavs-2008-01-26/normal_IMG_5288.jpg

http://desert-motors.com/cpg/albums/tempphotos/pavs-2008-01-26/normal_IMG_5293.jpg

http://desert-motors.com/cpg/albums/tempphotos/pavs-2008-01-26/normal_IMG_5295.jpg

http://desert-motors.com/cpg/albums/tempphotos/pavs-2008-01-26/normal_IMG_5298.jpg

http://desert-motors.com/cpg/albums/tempphotos/pavs-2008-01-26/normal_IMG_5305.jpg

http://desert-motors.com/cpg/albums/tempphotos/pavs-2008-01-26/normal_IMG_5310.jpg

http://desert-motors.com/cpg/albums/tempphotos/pavs-2008-01-26/normal_IMG_5319.jpg

For some reason, the way that the dash curves reminds me of the "fallopian tube" style on the Tribeca.

Hey, this car was AT vir's PCA event kicking everyone's @ZZ. The driver said it was his own modifications....CHEATER!!!

So Fine, looks like GM can do some things right.

DAMN THAT thing is CRAZY

That should scare the crap out of any M- or AMG- badged German car. :devil:

Actually, the two motors (CTSV and ZR1) are quite different. Ive heard starting at 60k (up from 50) but having a real options list.

both a stick and an auto will be available.

6 sp auto, or 6 spd stick please.

sam

the stick is a 6-speed. not sure if the auto is 5 or 6.

the stick is a 6-speed. not sure if the auto is 5 or 6.

Corvettes use an A6 auto. They mainly use it for fuel economy. A4s were last used in '05.

Car and Driver reported 4300lbs and a 12.40 1/4 mile, but they didn't drive the car. That's 500 lbs heavier than I was expecting, and half a second slower. How is this thing smaller than the M5, yet 400lbs heavier?

Car and Driver reported 4300lbs and a 12.40 1/4 mile, but they didn't drive the car. That's 500 lbs heavier than I was expecting, and half a second slower. How is this thing smaller than the M5, yet 400lbs heavier?

add probably 1.0 sec for when the real car arrives, then add another 1.0 sec for when Joe Blow takes his new car to the track.

Car and Driver ALWAYS gets better quarter mile times on bone stock vehicles than anyone I see at the track with an identical bone stock car.

The M5 is 4012lbs. (300lbs less than estimated)

Also, it's very close to the M5 in size. also think that this is supercharged, adding more weight.

The larger pontiac G8 GT is 3995lbs in weight. It does it by lower feature content.

I was leaving the gym yesterday and i saw these parked at a hotel. The hood had a big bulge in it, maybe for a bigger V8? One of them was an auto with a roll cage and the other was a six speed manual. The brakes were huge and of course they had manufacture plates.



Photos from my cell phone sorry...

here is the cars
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a370/trendytom/new%20shiz/IMG00233.jpg

Front wheel and brake
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a370/trendytom/new%20shiz/IMG00234.jpg

Rear wheel and break
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a370/trendytom/new%20shiz/IMG00237.jpg

the rear of the car, had a huge exhaust.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a370/trendytom/new%20shiz/IMG00236.jpg


and the roll cage
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a370/trendytom/new%20shiz/IMG00235.jpg

That hood bulge is for the blower. 550 hp bulge! :) It has a detuned C6 Z06 engine.

^ No, it has a detuned ZR1 engine.

That hood bulge is for the blower. 550 hp bulge! :) It has a detuned C6 Z06 engine.

No, it's a detuned ZR-1 engine. 6.3L supercharged.

Edit: D'oh! Outsponded!!!

^ 6.2, not 6.3.

so these are just test cars since info is already released?

my guess from the dust/dirt on the car is they were testing the cars in the desert.

yeah it was snowing a bit after i took the photo but i have no idea where they came from.

If I could afford one I'd buy it! I really like the new CTS and I am fond of the old one.

OP - That car came out already in the auto shows.. Get back in the gym.. and use search next time..

the engine in the CTS-V is based on the ZR1 engine.

Its a misnomer to say that it is a detuned ZR1 engine, rather its a retuned, retooled engine as it uses cast pistons vs. forged along with a variety of other changes which alter some characteristics of the engine it is based off of.

Also the intercooler is a single block vs a double block in the ZR1. Can't wait as this will most likely be my next car.. due out in Fall of this year.

OP - That car came out already in the auto shows.. Get back in the gym.. and use search next time..

either way cool to see test mules.

I think GM finally did something right with this car.

If the rear end can hold up, sure

the engine in the CTS-V is based on the ZR1 engine.

Its a misnomer to say that it is a detuned ZR1 engine, rather its a retuned, retooled engine as it uses cast pistons vs. forged along with a variety of other changes which alter some characteristics of the engine it is based off of.

Also the intercooler is a single block vs a double block in the ZR1. Can't wait as this will most likely be my next car.. due out in Fall of this year.

haha. so you just tiptoed around the facts. forged>cast pistons. yes it is a lesser version of the zr1 engine.:lol:

I think GM finally did something right with this car.

I <3 these

I <3 these
not if they didnt fix the deadly wheel hop problem.

wheel hop and exploding diffs is because they used the V6 rear end for a 400HP pushrod motor.

The word is this rear end is unique to the CTSV and shares some components with the ZR1 to handle the torque.

i think zr1 is mentioned more in this thread than the actual vette zr1 thread :lol:

certainly something to be excited about

What about the ZR1?

Very slick to catch the test cars in public. Roll cages and all! :D

Very slick to catch the test cars in public. Roll cages and all! :D
Better if you can catch them on back roads. I remember before the current M3s were released (assuming they have already been on sale), I ran into one but I was going in the other direction (otherwise I would've played with it, since it was masked and flanked by E46 M3s front and rear) and also another one unmasked but I was driving my dad's Tacoma.

I would LOVE to run into one of these and hear how angry the engine sounds.

Good post,thanks for sharing guy!!

OP - That car came out already in the auto shows.. Get back in the gym.. and use search next time..

indeed!!! You do need to work out more lol

this car looks seriously sick