I have a question reguarding the oil galley plug under the IC. My concern is if you open the plug and look at the oil where does is flow form there - for instance: to the bearings, to the head, to the crank case? The reason I'm concerned is because when I removed the plug some of the red sealer around the threads of the plug fell in the oil (I think - I cant be sure) and the piece of sealer I pulled off the threds of the plug seemed quite hard. Hard enough to scratch bearings! So I'm hoping that the oil flows to a place where it has to go through the oil filter first.

Can anybody venture a answer?

depends on which plug you pulled...both are oil galleries that go to the mains/bearings...which end you pulled would depend whether or not you are past the main feeds and now it feeds the heads. Regarldess you have tight tolerances on either side of that galleries flow.

I pulled the plug under the IC

I pulled the plug under the IC

right hand side of the car (passenger side) IIRC...? if so, flow from there runs to the rightside head.

Not sure. If looking to front of car from drivers seat I would say its just under the throttle body but to the right a bit.

I was trying to do an oil pressure remote locator kit.

Sorry, I don't know what "IIRC" means.

right hand side of the car (passenger side) IIRC...? if so, flow from there runs to the rightside head.

if I recall correctly...and that's right, the breather is where I'm thinking...so IDRC (didn't recall correctly :p )

anyhow, you are at the end of the main's oil gallery on that side.

OK, so what does that mean: "end of th mains's oil gallery"? Does that mean it still will pass through the last main bearing or does it mean that its after the main bearings to the heads or to the oil pan?

An in either case how screwed am I?

thanks for your input.:p

if I recall correctly...and that's right, the breather is where I'm thinking...so IDRC (didn't recall correctly :p )

anyhow, you are at the end of the main's oil gallery on that side.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1420864

from what I can see from the image (an assuming the EJ22 oiling system is the same as the EJ25) the particles could have gone to the head or the last two rod or crack bearings (cant tell from the picture).

I guess I'm not sure how concerned I should be about this. The question is how many people have removed this plug and have small bits of sealer fall into the galley and not even know it? And how bad would the shavings be for bearings?

Another thing that has got me on edge it the fact that my car only has 5000 miles on it and I broke it in very meticulously but Im only getting 20 psi of pressure at idle when fully warmed up. I would think with a brand new engine my pressure wouldn't be at the lower range. Now by 1k rpm I have 30 psi and it rockets up from there.

I know 20 psi is the lower limit but at what rpm is that limit tested at?

The gallery plug by the block breather vent is above the main oil gallery to the main bearing gallery. That seems to be a good place for a sender. If it ruins the main or rod bearing you might want to put the stock plug back in before you take it to the dealer. It might make it ok. The oil galleries to the mains are about .250 before the main shells. If it makes it all the way to the main shell holes there are about 6 holes in the main shell. If it were to lodge in a hole in the main shell it probably won't scratch the crank but it will hinder oil flow. If it goes to the head there is a filter screen in the banjo bolt in the turbo oil feed line and it will catch it. The screen can be removed and cleaned. However the restricter in the head is very small to limit the flow to the cams and buckets and it could reduce that flow and sieze a cam. In any case it won't make it through the oil galleries and just fall in the pan or get caught in the filter. It's already past the filter and the remaining places to go are too small to let the piece or pieces out.
It will be interesting to see how it goes. Good luck.

Charliew

Well isn't that great! Engine death by undoing a bolt.:unamused: My friggin luck! My only hope that nothing fell or if whatever fell is so small it passes. I don't know how the red sealer is formulated, but if Im lucky it's like red locktite where once its heated it gets softer - of course you would have to heat it VERY hot to break it down if its like locktite.

If I had to guess I'd say the particls would be no larger than the thickness of the bolt threads (say a few hundreths of an inch) and maybe a few hundredths wide +/- and deep.

I don't see how anybody who has removed this bolt wouldn't be in the same situation. There is no real way to catch the debris when undoing it.:sadbanana:

The gallery plug by the block breather vent is above the main oil gallery to the main bearing gallery. That seems to be a good place for a sender. If it ruins the main or rod bearing you might want to put the stock plug back in before you take it to the dealer. It might make it ok. The oil galleries to the mains are about .250 before the main shells. If it makes it all the way to the main shell holes there are about 6 holes in the main shell. If it were to lodge in a hole in the main shell it probably won't scratch the crank but it will hinder oil flow. If it goes to the head there is a filter screen in the banjo bolt in the turbo oil feed line and it will catch it. The screen can be removed and cleaned. However the restricter in the head is very small to limit the flow to the cams and buckets and it could reduce that flow and sieze a cam. In any case it won't make it through the oil galleries and just fall in the pan or get caught in the filter. It's already past the filter and the remaining places to go are too small to let the piece or pieces out.
It will be interesting to see how it goes. Good luck.

Charliew

well, there is no way to solve the solution without tearing down the motor and I really don't think it will kill you engine...

No, me neither, or you would hear about this more often, but now every friggin little sound or quirk will be a nagging question in the back of my mind. Oh well, that modding for ya!:lol:


well, there is no way to solve the solution without tearing down the motor and I really don't think it will kill you engine...