jacky599r
05-28-2008, 12:16 PM
Just wanna know what AFR to run with meth? say 50/50...
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View Full Version : AFR to run w meth? jacky599r 05-28-2008, 12:16 PM Just wanna know what AFR to run with meth? say 50/50... jaxscuby 05-28-2008, 12:57 PM depends on which kit you have. but a rule thumb is lean to ~12:1 jacky599r 05-28-2008, 02:47 PM i have the coolingmist 3d! is there like a measurement for the increase in octane? some indicators or that sort. i mean i dont really see a change in afr when using meth right... hope i have a better way to put this across a6n6d6y 05-28-2008, 03:45 PM I have the ECU set to put ~13.2:1 into the motor and my PWI-1 with 60% methanol brings it to ~12.5:1 on the wide band, but thats spraying a lot of water/meth bcblues 05-28-2008, 09:54 PM I am targeting 12.5 with a CoolingMist Stage 2 with a 760cc injector (12 gph) running 60% meth. Irishman 05-29-2008, 12:41 AM I have mine around 12 in the mid and tapers to 11.7ish at redline. I know it is rich but I wanted a safe tune. I still picked up about 47hp and 32ft/lbs with 50/50. testes1010 05-29-2008, 08:08 AM but a rule thumb is lean to ~12:1 thats a good safe rule of thumb.... I run ~13.4:1(actual wbo2 afr) in the meat of the powerband(~3800-6500) tapering to ~12.5:1(actual wbo2 afr) at redline.:D I have not done a road dyno graph since leaning out that much, however buttdyno says its making substantially more torque than the ~12.5:1AFR I did previously on meth. I'm running a 7gph at the throttle body & a 1.3gph pre-turbo. I wouldn't necessarily recommend that to anyone else but it works for me. simon021 05-29-2008, 10:15 AM thats a good safe rule of thumb.... I run ~13.4:1(actual wbo2 afr) in the meat of the powerband(~3800-6500) tapering to ~12.5:1(actual wbo2 afr) at redline.:D I have not done a road dyno graph since leaning out that much, however buttdyno says its making substantially more torque than the ~12.5:1AFR I did previously on meth. I'm running a 7gph at the throttle body & a 1.3gph pre-turbo. I wouldn't necessarily recommend that to anyone else but it works for me. What do you think about the pre turbo nozzle? How much benefit have you seen from it? Did you always run both or did you add the pre turbo later? Just trying to get an idea of the difference it made. testes1010 05-29-2008, 12:06 PM I love the preturbo injector, however I have yet to raise boost beyond the 24psi I run on pump & pump +meth, but I'm running 6 degrees more advance in the full load area vs. 4 degrees I was running when only running one at the TB. ULTIMATE CC 05-29-2008, 09:48 PM every car is different, every setup is different, its something thats really up to you and your tuner... jacky599r 05-30-2008, 03:54 PM seriously, how hard is it to tune a meth setup? i mean my tuner has nv done it before. Also, im looking at specific sets of concerns and lessons learnt that i need to take note. Im using the coolingmist 3d. So, any feedback is most welcomed. jaxscuby 06-02-2008, 09:57 AM actually its not difficult. do baseline pull to verify afr's adjust afr when water/meth starts. adjust boost for when water/meth starts adjust timing for when water/meth starts so really not any different than a regular dyno tune. jacky599r 06-02-2008, 11:54 AM my kit can do 3d-3 inputs. question is, how do i know i specifically need more here and less there? and where and when to spray etc etc? jaxscuby 06-02-2008, 02:47 PM well if you got a decent kit. it should already have a predetermined psi of boost when it activates. it should follow injector duty cycle for the amount of spray.. but you would have know that if you did your homework and read up on each that is available. jacky599r 06-04-2008, 08:22 AM ^ my kit doesnt track idc pal.... what nw |