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06rexwagon 09-23-2008, 03:38 PM Huge thanks to Mike at Blouch Turbo. He has been so cool throughout the whole thing.
2006 WRX wagon
STi 6 spd
CP Pistons
960cc injectors
UR EWG
Blouch Dominator 4.0R (unreleased)
other goodies
Stock wrx makes ~185-190whp
91+meth
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m105/06rexwagon/dom4meth.jpg
E85 - no meth
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m105/06rexwagon/dom4e85.jpg
This thing is unreal for a bolt on turbo. Self tuned with ecuflash.
stanghater 09-23-2008, 03:41 PM :eek: crazy!!
Good job man
SiLLySTI 09-23-2008, 03:41 PM :eek: Unreal for a bolt on stock location turbo.
Been watching your thread in the 2.5 forum and wishing the day these become available.
Great numbers and the car must move damn well on E85 :devil:
Blouchturbo 09-23-2008, 03:43 PM :eek: Unreal for a bolt on stock location turbo.
Been watching your thread in the 2.5 forum and wishing the day these become available.
Great numbers and the car must move damn well on E85 :devil:
Dom 4.0R is now for sale. Working on getting it added to our website :banana:
vanillajuice 09-23-2008, 03:46 PM omg Cam.....SICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
06rexwagon 09-23-2008, 03:47 PM Dom 4.0R is now for sale. Working on getting it added to our website :banana:
^^^^ The man. Thanks again for everything man. Blouch is a top notch outfit.
stanghater 09-23-2008, 03:53 PM :eek: Unreal for a bolt on stock location turbo.
Been watching your thread in the 2.5 forum and wishing the day these become available.
Great numbers and the car must move damn well on E85 :devil:
he took me for a ride in it, yeah, its cartoon fast
06rexwagon 09-23-2008, 03:59 PM All of that power in this WAGON, complete with 2 child seats in the back.
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m105/06rexwagon/DSC_0410copy.jpg
CoolRex 09-23-2008, 04:06 PM Can you post your complete power mods list?
06rexwagon 09-23-2008, 04:09 PM Can you post your complete power mods list?
stanghater is on it.
stanghater 09-23-2008, 04:10 PM here is the mod list:
Blouch DOM4
UR EWG
COBB TBE
960 cc injectors
APS inlet
Perrin Stealth FMIC
TGV Deletes
Exedy clutch
spiider dccd
kartboy shift bushings
KS Tech 73mm CAI
05 STi 6 Spd
CP Pistons
kstech smog pump delete
kstech 8mm phenolic spacers
labonte meth kit
defi bf gauges, boost, oil temp, egt
Innovate LC-1
greddy profec b spec II bcs
CoolRex 09-23-2008, 04:12 PM Thanks.
juanmedina 09-23-2008, 04:12 PM E85 #s :eek:, what is the MPG on E85 with that turbo?
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n104/juanmedina/sombreroface1.jpg
06hwrx 09-23-2008, 04:12 PM how much boost on e85? you didnt run out of injector?
06rexwagon 09-23-2008, 04:15 PM E85 #s :eek:, what is the MPG on E85 with that turbo?
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n104/juanmedina/sombreroface1.jpg
no idea yet.
06rexwagon 09-23-2008, 04:16 PM how much boost on e85? you didnt run out of injector?
29psi. IDC's are 92%
06hwrx 09-23-2008, 04:16 PM Nice!, 100% e85 i assume right?
juanmedina 09-23-2008, 04:17 PM how much boost on e85? you didnt run out of injector?
+12345 Are you using a double pumper setup? and was the boost on 91+ meth?
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n104/juanmedina/sombreroface1.jpg
06rexwagon 09-23-2008, 04:20 PM Nice!, 100% e85 i assume right?
Yes. Straight out of the E85 pump.
06rexwagon 09-23-2008, 04:21 PM +12345 Are you using a double pumper setup? and was the boost on 91+ meth?
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n104/juanmedina/sombreroface1.jpg
Single walbro. Not going to run that much boost on the street. 25-26 psi on 91+meth.
Infamous1 09-23-2008, 04:31 PM The E85 results are straight crazy, you gained 90wp and 80wtq over 91 plus meth.
Ray@revitup 09-23-2008, 04:31 PM very sick !!!!!!!!
Nuke209 09-23-2008, 04:32 PM Cam...Cam...Cam...
DAMN!
Ray@revitup 09-23-2008, 04:37 PM awesome i cant wait to start selling these, plus im going to be including a home nail care kit with every purchase !!!!!!! lmao cam you were the 1st person to buy one from me, ill send you a gift certificate to the nearest nail salon
i cant believe these numbers :)
wrxwhat 09-23-2008, 04:57 PM 29psi. IDC's are 92%
i don't get it.
Ray@revitup 09-23-2008, 04:58 PM i don't get it.
29 pounds of boost
injector duty cycles were at 92 percent on e85
06rexwagon 09-23-2008, 04:58 PM i don't get it.
Injector Duty Cycle = IDC.
WRXPowa112 09-23-2008, 05:33 PM Injector Duty Cycle = IDC.
There is no way the IDC on E85 were 92%. You must be running 1600cc injectors then. There is no way on you are only at 92% with E85.
MattPersman 09-23-2008, 05:56 PM what AFR on e85 to run those nice streetable injectors! BIG THUMBS UP!
06rexwagon 09-23-2008, 06:39 PM There is no way the IDC on E85 were 92%. You must be running 1600cc injectors then. There is no way on you are only at 92% with E85.
You're right.
I'm at 5300ft man, we have no air here. If I were at sea level you would be right.
06rexwagon 09-23-2008, 06:39 PM what AFR on e85 to run those nice streetable injectors! BIG THUMBS UP!
Effective afr of 12:1 in gasoline terms.
treystoys 09-23-2008, 09:47 PM What is the description of the dom 4.0r...in other words, I have the blouch 2.5r, its like a stock location 30r...what is the 4.0r?
btw...I love my 2.5r...just wondering what the next step could be!
Trey
Nuke209 09-23-2008, 10:05 PM What is the description of the dom 4.0r...in other words, I have the blouch 2.5r, its like a stock location 30r...what is the 4.0r?
btw...I love my 2.5r...just wondering what the next step could be!
Trey
I believe the 3.0 was more like the 30r
The 4.0 is more of a 32r
WagonGGA 09-23-2008, 10:37 PM This Wagon is my hero!!
treystoys 09-23-2008, 10:55 PM I believe the 3.0 was more like the 30r
The 4.0 is more of a 32r
Possibly...I do know that my 2.5r does have a garret bb center cartridge...I honestly don't know for sure. I always describe it as a hybrid BB 20g for lack of better words.
Trey
vanillajuice 09-24-2008, 12:18 AM 3.0 is 52 lbs/min
4.0 is 60 lbs/min
garboplateNY88 09-24-2008, 12:36 AM Damn I just ordered the Subaru WRX/STi Dominator 3.0R Full Ball Bearing Turbocharger I shouldn't got the 4.0r damn. My Innovative Tuning - Stage 2+ Shortblock can hold 600 crank HP, 8000 rpm, and 27 psi. My car would still be safe with this new turbo Dominator 4.0R.
Mycues1982 09-24-2008, 12:45 AM Yea they also have a 3.5 they are releasing
garboplateNY88 09-24-2008, 12:46 AM Yea they also have a 3.5 they are releasing
I don't see it on there website?
kcook 09-24-2008, 01:25 AM holy ****!!
socalLGT 09-24-2008, 01:36 AM What were the uncorrected numbers (no SAE)? At that altitude I'd bet SAE added over 20% to the uncorrected numbers which makes the IDC's a lot easier to believe.
arch4life 09-24-2008, 02:30 AM yeah i bet you wouldnt make that power at sea level with those injectors, and finding 1600cc injectors that idle? zomg. :)
06rexwagon 09-24-2008, 08:46 AM What were the uncorrected numbers (no SAE)? At that altitude I'd bet SAE added over 20% to the uncorrected numbers which makes the IDC's a lot easier to believe.
451/440 uncorrected. 113F intake temps. SAE yesterday was 20%. Damn altitude. At sea level I'd have to get some really big injectors.
WRX4eva 09-24-2008, 09:00 AM This is awesome... can't wait to get my 4.0R or 3.5R
CVR STi 09-24-2008, 09:04 AM umm god damn.
whitesti400 09-24-2008, 09:09 AM You did a good job on this thing Cam!! Next week we'll fill up my car with e85 and start tuning!!! I need to get over the 400 hump
billionaire7 09-24-2008, 01:27 PM Cameron is the man!
scooby 09-24-2008, 01:31 PM This may have to go on my "Needed it yesterday list"!
Rexwagon03 09-24-2008, 01:37 PM nice numbers
brandonl 09-24-2008, 01:58 PM awesome i cant wait to start selling these, plus im going to be including a home nail care kit with every purchase !!!!!!! lmao cam you were the 1st person to buy one from me, ill send you a gift certificate to the nearest nail salon
i cant believe these numbers :)
Oh man... Hey Ray I might have an updated shopping list ;)
howfast? 09-24-2008, 02:17 PM dang those are beautiful numbers. Did the tune take much longer for the E85 than the 91+meth?
soon2bblackongold 09-24-2008, 02:51 PM very sick !!!!!!!!
kind of makes people that are/were going rotated think twice;)
tux121 09-24-2008, 03:20 PM That is alot of power for E85....wow +500whp!!!
gabedude 09-24-2008, 03:59 PM Holy **** Cameron! I wish I could get E85 here.
mdsoobturbo 09-24-2008, 04:15 PM just talkd to mike at blouch.
the 3.5 was released in small amounts in australia and here but never available for sale.
and the dom 4.0 has a 58lb wheel not a 60 as mentioned before.
hope this clears up a bit
06rexwagon 09-24-2008, 05:13 PM dang those are beautiful numbers. Did the tune take much longer for the E85 than the 91+meth?
It was really easy actually. Since I had my 73mm MAF dialed in I just took my injector scalar * .72 and it came right in. I leaned out my fuel targets to 11.9 in gasoline terms and added 4-5* of timing under load over my meth map. My fuel trims are better on e85 than they were on 91.
Boxer4u 09-24-2008, 05:57 PM Damn nice numbers! What needs to be done to run E85 in our cars? And is it damaging to any parts?
06rexwagon 09-24-2008, 06:54 PM Damn nice numbers! What needs to be done to run E85 in our cars? And is it damaging to any parts?
Just a larger fuel pump and big injectors. Bigger injectors than I have now at lower elevation. There's a huge thread under engine management at the top of the page dedicated to e85.
robbieshonda 09-24-2008, 08:14 PM Nice Numbers Cam. Mike you guys release the specs on the turbo yet? Thats a nice step up from a dom 3
Drunkinchef 09-24-2008, 09:07 PM Go cam GO!!!!
wrxwhat 09-25-2008, 01:45 AM 29 pounds of boost
injector duty cycles were at 92 percent on e85
on a single walbro.
546whp on a single walbro.
lol
on e85
lol
no way man 09-25-2008, 10:17 AM Are these stock WRX heads/cams? I would like too see a what cams would do.....if anything. Very Nice. Do you have engine pics?
06rexwagon 09-25-2008, 10:53 AM Are these stock WRX heads/cams? I would like too see a what cams would do.....if anything. Very Nice. Do you have engine pics?
Yes stock heads. I think cams would help. The only engine pics I have right now are from when the engine was out.
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m105/06rexwagon/enginebuild088.jpg
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m105/06rexwagon/enginebuild087.jpg
CoolRex 09-25-2008, 10:59 AM Wouldn't cams shift the power band to the right? I'm having a hard time deciding if I should do cams or not on my 2.5L swap. I'm looking for a healthy strong street beast that is 100% daily driveable and I like the promises that the Dom 3.0R has.
Boosted WRX STi 09-25-2008, 11:14 AM Those numbers are insane :eek::eek:!! I'm impressed, especially from E85. Please let us know what your MPG's look like, I think we're all very interested. Awesome setup. Good luck, and I think now may be a good time to buy a Hans device for you and your passengers!!
06rexwagon 09-25-2008, 11:16 AM Wouldn't cams shift the power band to the right? I'm having a hard time deciding if I should do cams or not on my 2.5L swap. I'm looking for a healthy strong street beast that is 100% daily driveable and I like the promises that the Dom 3.0R has.
I had a Dom3 before this and it was really nice. For a stock block it may be a better choice than the Dom4 since the Dom4 really makes huge power at high boost. My Dom3 did 417/421 on 91+meth on stock internals. The lag isn't noticeably different. On a cool morning, at my high altitude I hit 20 psi before 4100rpm. That's excellent in my opinion.
CoolRex 09-25-2008, 11:18 AM I had a Dom3 before this and it was really nice. For a stock block it may be a better choice than the Dom4 since the Dom4 really makes huge power at high boost. My Dom3 did 417/421 on 91+meth on stock internals. The lag isn't noticeably different. On a cool morning, at my high altitude I hit 20 psi before 4100rpm. That's excellent in my opinion.
Oh I should say my 2.5L will be sporting forged pistons. Just unsure of what cams to use with the WRX heads.
06rexwagon 09-25-2008, 11:28 AM Oh I should say my 2.5L will be sporting forged pistons. Just unsure of what cams to use with the WRX heads.
STi cams would be a good upgrade maybe. Really big cams are great for a street car. I've tuned a number of cars with them and they make low end power suffer too much for my taste.
GeneralTJI 09-25-2008, 11:36 AM yeah i bet you wouldnt make that power at sea level with those injectors, and finding 1600cc injectors that idle? zomg
He would make that power at sea level, he just wouldn't be able to make much more than that.... (make the same power with less boost on the gauge... same boost relative to sea level)
Being able to run E85 leaner in terms of gasoiline AFR's does help... you don't lose out so much on effeciency per gallon on E85 under WOT like you do when just cruising around. I run mine around 11.7:1 and usually don't break 1400deg F.
I'm not totally positive, because I haven't tried it myself, but I have a feeling 1600cc injectors would idle better running E85 than they would gasoline.. since you need approx. 30% more fuel, you arn't asking those gigantic injectors to flow next to nothing to quite the same extreme.
Good numbers, serious power out of a stock location turbo, I can't believe how much turbo can be squeezed in there.
KSTech 09-25-2008, 12:38 PM Cam's power numbers are SAE corrected for altitude and temperature. It's more like 450 actual-whp uncorrected at 5000'+. These are impressive no matter how you look at it. But if this set-up went down to sea level on a cool day it would run out of injector, fuel pump, and MAF voltage on E85.
Almost_there_1 09-25-2008, 04:00 PM great job cam! I can't wait till we start tinkering with my gt37r.... =)
eric
wuuusaa 09-26-2008, 12:57 AM Congrats Cam... post up vids bro
theguy 09-26-2008, 11:37 PM way to go!! great tuner and a great guy! :)
cucamelsmd15 09-27-2008, 08:34 PM Jesus dude, thats awesome. Whats your elevation again? I know youve told me before. Im actually pretty surprised that you didnt run out of injector on the e85 tune.
Oh, we needs some videos too. :devil:
u2_m4r1n3 09-27-2008, 08:49 PM Ok, i totally can't see the charts- if that's what it shows- this computer wont show majority of the pictures on the net (due to retrictions where i'm at) so could someone let me know how much HP and TQ that baby is pushing out!
06rexwagon 09-27-2008, 10:25 PM 546/540
vanillajuice 09-30-2008, 01:30 PM try not to attempt to break ur engine this time at the strip.....get us a good time!!!! hehe
jemar2169 09-30-2008, 03:59 PM Awesome numbers and graph man. you guys used opensource as your EM right?
+111 on the mpg's on the e85
06rexwagon 09-30-2008, 04:03 PM Awesome numbers and graph man. you guys used opensource as your EM right?
+111 on the mpg's on the e85
Yes ecuflash to tune it. All self tuned by me. MPG during cruise is pretty good actually. Around 22-24 mpg. When you go WOT though it really drinks the stuff.
WrxRick 10-08-2008, 01:32 AM I want this turbo!!!!
I just dont see how a 58lb/min turbo can outperform a fp red 65lb/min turbo on the dyno! Most fp red owners are seeing just barely over 500whp. Your dom 4 is making quite a bit more. Very impressive.
golfboy83 10-08-2008, 02:28 AM All of that power in this WAGON, complete with 2 child seats in the back.
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m105/06rexwagon/DSC_0410copy.jpg
Ha! Awesome! Props for cool dad award.
06rexwagon 10-08-2008, 08:39 AM I want this turbo!!!!
I just dont see how a 58lb/min turbo can outperform a fp red 65lb/min turbo on the dyno! Most fp red owners are seeing just barely over 500whp. Your dom 4 is making quite a bit more. Very impressive.
Agreed. I've tuned an FPRed on an STi with EL headers on this dyno and it made about 505whp on 101 +meth. It seems that the E85 helps quite a bit too though, even over 101.
CoolRex 10-08-2008, 08:42 AM It's the E85. But E85 on the Red and it'll make 600 hp.
Nate8409 10-08-2008, 08:47 AM I wish we could get E85 around here.
CoolRex 10-08-2008, 08:51 AM Yeah there is only 1 station near me with E85 and its 15 miles out of the way. I have to have it readily available everywhere before I used it :(
zeropsi 10-08-2008, 11:16 AM I may have missed it, but any straight pump gas numbers?
GeneralTJI 10-08-2008, 11:47 AM My closest E85 station is almost 30 miles away... and I made peace with that....
It's worth it... well I live in the middle of nowhere, so most things are 30 miles away.. but after switching I'm not going back...
I'm impressed that Walbro is keeping up with those fuel demands...
06rexwagon 10-08-2008, 12:00 PM I may have missed it, but any straight pump gas numbers?
I tuned it on pump with some fouled plugs and other issues but it did ~410whp at 21psi.
JoseanWRX 10-08-2008, 12:23 PM Can you do an overlay of the Dom 3.0 vs the Dom 4.0R?
06rexwagon 10-08-2008, 12:43 PM Can you do an overlay of the Dom 3.0 vs the Dom 4.0R?
I can do it for 91+meth but not for e85. I'll do it next time I go to the shop.
hella_sti 10-08-2008, 01:03 PM maybe I missed it but waht psi is this at? Damn!
zeropsi 10-08-2008, 01:14 PM I tuned it on pump with some fouled plugs and other issues but it did ~410whp at 21psi.
Nice!
I'm sure it'd had quite a bit more in it. I'm impressed.
japslapr 10-08-2008, 01:44 PM and this is still running the TD06h hotside? I have an SZ55 and made similar numbers corrected on 110 (448 on a 2.0l). Wondering if I would see any benefit from the 58 wheel vs the 55..... Not sure why we keep having so many variants of the same thing... when can we get a bigger hotside? You would think someone would have gotten this done already....
Can't ....breath...up....top.....need...mAs.....big..er. .... turbine.
WrxRick 10-08-2008, 02:21 PM Wow! I didn't know that E85 would be so impressive! I couldn't imagine 580whp on an AWD STi with just a bolt on red turbo. I couldnt imagine the numbers for a big rotated mount.
Whooo hoo!
CoolRex 10-08-2008, 02:24 PM and this is still running the TD06h hotside? I have an SZ55 and made similar numbers corrected on 110 (448 on a 2.0l). Wondering if I would see any benefit from the 58 wheel vs the 55..... Not sure why we keep having so many variants of the same thing... when can we get a bigger hotside? You would think someone would have gotten this done already....
Can't ....breath...up....top.....need...mAs.....big..er. .... turbine.
If you make that hotside any bigger I'd bet you will run into issues with a stock location. Any bigger and the dang inlet won't fit under the manifold anymore.
06rexwagon 10-08-2008, 04:29 PM maybe I missed it but waht psi is this at? Damn!
29 psi
japslapr 10-08-2008, 04:47 PM If you make that hotside any bigger I'd bet you will run into issues with a stock location. Any bigger and the dang inlet won't fit under the manifold anymore.
Nah, if anything it would just be an issue of the up pipe. Making the hotside bigger would change the angle of the the turbo more downward.... so why not just shorten the up pipe to compensate? I'd spend 2500 on a 10cm SZ60 (or = size) turbo with a modified up pipe to make it work. I'm not saying I'm completely against going rotated... I just don't think its neccesary.
06rexwagon 10-08-2008, 04:59 PM and this is still running the TD06h hotside? I have an SZ55 and made similar numbers corrected on 110 (448 on a 2.0l). Wondering if I would see any benefit from the 58 wheel vs the 55..... Not sure why we keep having so many variants of the same thing... when can we get a bigger hotside? You would think someone would have gotten this done already....
Can't ....breath...up....top.....need...mAs.....big..er. .... turbine.
This is a ball bearing Garrett CHRA. The SZ is not.
japslapr 10-08-2008, 09:18 PM This is a ball bearing Garrett CHRA. The SZ is not.So it spools faster. Not moving more air.
06rexwagon 10-13-2008, 09:55 AM Well I ran it at the track. 6400' DA yesterday.
This is on stock original RE92's. Also remember that my car is a limited with leather and sunroof so it's heavy.
ran 11.69@121.9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HDCAntz6yY
in car
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuDLqtUjcxk
juanmedina 10-13-2008, 10:08 AM Well I ran it at the track. 6400' DA yesterday.
This is on stock original RE92's. Also remember that my car is a limited with leather and sunroof so it's heavy.
ran 11.69@121.9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HDCAntz6yY
in car
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuDLqtUjcxk
wow :eek:, congrats. For the love of god get new tires :mad:.
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n104/juanmedina/sombreroface1.jpg
zeropsi 10-13-2008, 11:37 AM Car's definitely got more in it. Very nice.
06rexwagon 10-13-2008, 05:39 PM Car's definitely got more in it. Very nice.
Yea I'm not the best driver and my tires suck but I was the only 11 second 4 cylinder car there.
Dude the torment ! Im torn between the Dom and going rotated, I just dont know what to do .
wuuusaa 10-13-2008, 06:18 PM Congrats Cam...bout time
So did you crap your pants? And did I hear a grinding 4th gear?
06rexwagon 10-13-2008, 06:37 PM Congrats Cam...bout time
So did you crap your pants? And did I hear a grinding 4th gear?
I ground 5th.
cucamelsmd15 10-13-2008, 07:48 PM What is the LC set at in the in-car run? Is it me, or does it sound like it bogs a bit at the launch?
wrxsti.l 10-13-2008, 08:13 PM can u post the slip Cam - just wanted to have a dorry :)
06rexwagon 10-13-2008, 08:41 PM What is the LC set at in the in-car run? Is it me, or does it sound like it bogs a bit at the launch?
It's at 5500. It's just the clutch slipping you hear. Like I said, I'm a rookie at the track. That was only my second time at a drag strip.
06rexwagon 10-13-2008, 08:41 PM can u post the slip Cam - just wanted to have a dorry :)
Right lane, car L234. The other side is that poor Camaro that I whooped. Look how my 1/8 mph is faster than his 1/4 mph.
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m105/06rexwagon/Image001.jpg
cucamelsmd15 10-13-2008, 08:46 PM 1.76 60 foot? Not bad for being a rookie. :)
06rexwagon 10-13-2008, 08:49 PM 1.76 60 foot? Not bad for being a rookie. :)
I ran a 1.73 60' on another pass at 122.1mph, but it was an 11.76.
garboplateNY88 10-13-2008, 09:31 PM I can only Imagine how my car is going to due in the track atleast low 11's. Espaically my car is a fully built engine flows better. I'am getting the same turbo soon.
Yea I'm not the best driver and my tires suck but I was the only 11 second 4 cylinder car there.
vinnyd 10-13-2008, 10:09 PM mine is going on this week and being tuned on saturday. with my my ppgs hopefully my wagon will be faster:) nice times for being a rookie and on stock tires.
wrxsti.l 10-14-2008, 12:04 AM nice results Cameron. Next time out, you recon you could go over a weigh bridge - it'd help us see what the full potential of this turbo is :)
Edit: Was this on e85? Or just your pump tune? Also, how much boost did you run at the track?
06rexwagon 10-14-2008, 10:45 AM nice results Cameron. Next time out, you recon you could go over a weigh bridge - it'd help us see what the full potential of this turbo is :)
Edit: Was this on e85? Or just your pump tune? Also, how much boost did you run at the track?
E85 and 29 psi
06rexwagon 10-14-2008, 10:46 AM mine is going on this week and being tuned on saturday. with my my ppgs hopefully my wagon will be faster:) nice times for being a rookie and on stock tires.
Without high octane I don't know if you'll be faster or not. That pass was on E85, but our altitude here hurts a lot.
Venom911 11-09-2008, 08:15 AM Wtf people! i cant stand getting on here anymore this is all i see, people dishing other peeps about there post. For god sacks give respect when due...06Wagon your car is nice bro good job i as well have a 3.0R..People listen to me we have to stick together here do not dish your own peeps do it to the V8 guys damn....GROW THE &#&$ UP!
I have a better car, blah blah blah.
My friend has a faster car, blah blah blah
I know some one who has 1000hp on a 20G, blah blah blah..
Im out....For all the peeps that give a damn about this addiction and love keep it up your doing well!
06rexwagon 11-09-2008, 10:43 AM mine is going on this week and being tuned on saturday. with my my ppgs hopefully my wagon will be faster:) nice times for being a rookie and on stock tires.
What did it dyno?
wrxsti.l 11-09-2008, 06:45 PM Wtf people! i cant stand getting on here anymore this is all i see, people dishing other peeps about there post.
Who is "dishing" who?
From what I can see, ppl have congratulated Cameron on his results and are asking legit questions regarding his setup - what is wrong with that?
I'm confused with your post???
06rexwagon 11-10-2008, 06:16 PM Who is "dishing" who?
From what I can see, ppl have congratulated Cameron on his results and are asking legit questions regarding his setup - what is wrong with that?
I'm confused with your post???
Yea I didn't really understand that either. Oh well. :lol:
wrxsti.l 11-10-2008, 07:37 PM Yea I didn't really understand that either. Oh well. :lol:
lol Cam, maybe he meant to post in another thread - you know what they say, men are no good at multi-tasking ;)
So hows the car anyhoo mate? Still going strong?
When are you going to make it out to another strip for more runs - maybe a strip at lower alt to see if you can crack a 10 :)
Tenacious Bee 11-10-2008, 09:28 PM Very impressive Cam. Been watching this from the start. Waited to post until now. Vern from PA if you don't remember my screen name.
06rexwagon 11-11-2008, 10:51 AM lol Cam, maybe he meant to post in another thread - you know what they say, men are no good at multi-tasking ;)
So hows the car anyhoo mate? Still going strong?
When are you going to make it out to another strip for more runs - maybe a strip at lower alt to see if you can crack a 10 :)
No more racing for the wagon. There's a small chance that my buddy will take it to the track this weekend since it's the last one for the year. The car runs great though. I never thought I'd get used to the power but like every other setup I've had in the past I have. I have a disease.
06rexwagon 11-11-2008, 10:56 AM Very impressive Cam. Been watching this from the start. Waited to post until now. Vern from PA if you don't remember my screen name.
Yea I remember you. I really like this setup but can't help but dream of a twinscroll GT4088
wrxsti.l 11-11-2008, 06:11 PM There's a small chance that my buddy will take it to the track this weekend since it's the last one for the year.
If he does, get him to post the results too :)
The car runs great though. I never thought I'd get used to the power but like every other setup I've had in the past I have. I have a disease.
As we all do - and ppl think crack addiction costs money :devil:
milab21 11-12-2008, 04:32 PM sick, love the car
06rexwagon 11-18-2008, 12:41 PM New race vids. I wasn't there, but my buddy took it out.
Vs the SL65 AMG TT V12 ($190k supercar)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcZAwN64XDw&feature=channel
In car vid with passenger vs viper.
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/DOM4-WRX-Wagon-vs-96-GTS_199660.htm
It didn't run as fast as the last time but it was a warmer day and I left the kid seats in the back.
Mooneyes13 12-02-2008, 08:21 PM what kinda e/ts? what do you think the car will put down on 93 pump?
Tenacious Bee 12-02-2008, 08:58 PM New race vids. I wasn't there, but my buddy took it out.
Vs the SL65 AMG TT V12 ($190k supercar)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcZAwN64XDw&feature=channel
In car vid with passenger vs viper.
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/DOM4-WRX-Wagon-vs-96-GTS_199660.htm
It didn't run as fast as the last time but it was a warmer day and I left the kid seats in the back.
Wow, all I can say is wow LOL !
06rexwagon 12-02-2008, 09:47 PM what kinda e/ts? what do you think the car will put down on 93 pump?
At our altitude (5300+ ft) probably a low 12. The 6 speed makes it a little harder to get the et down.
Tenacious Bee 12-03-2008, 08:58 AM At our altitude (5300+ ft) probably a low 12. The 6 speed makes it a little harder to get the et down.
Have you given any thought to the rallispec JDM Sti gear set for your six speed ? Part number is RST-F145. About halfway down the page.
http://www.rallispec.com/prod_trans.htm
It eliminates the shift into fifth when running the 1/4. My six speed is fine but I am thinking to do a preemptive rebuild anyway. If I do this is definitely the way I am going. One set of synchros is included in the base price.
CoolRex 12-03-2008, 10:10 AM Have you given any thought to the rallispec JDM Sti gear set for your six speed ? Part number is RST-F145. About halfway down the page.
http://www.rallispec.com/prod_trans.htm
It eliminates the shift into fifth when running the 1/4. My six speed is fine but I am thinking to do a preemptive rebuild anyway. If I do this is definitely the way I am going. One set of synchros is included in the base price.
Is that pretty much the 07 gears?
06rexwagon 12-03-2008, 10:58 AM Have you given any thought to the rallispec JDM Sti gear set for your six speed ? Part number is RST-F145. About halfway down the page.
http://www.rallispec.com/prod_trans.htm
It eliminates the shift into fifth when running the 1/4. My six speed is fine but I am thinking to do a preemptive rebuild anyway. If I do this is definitely the way I am going. One set of synchros is included in the base price.
I'm not going to mess with the gearing. It's great for a daily driver with the larger turbo because the short gears make it very responsive. That and I don't think that those gears will go 122+mph in 4th gear. I'll still have to hit 5th. If I do anything for gears I'm going to build a dogbox 5 speed.
CoolRex 12-03-2008, 11:03 AM If those are the 07 gears then you will only go 118-120 mph in 4th depending on where you redline. My redline is 7200ish.
06rexwagon 12-03-2008, 11:21 AM If those are the 07 gears then you will only go 118-120 mph in 4th depending on where you redline. My redline is 7200ish.
That means I'll hit 5th at the very end. Still sucks.
zeropsi 12-03-2008, 11:40 AM I'm not going to mess with the gearing. It's great for a daily driver with the larger turbo because the short gears make it very responsive. That and I don't think that those gears will go 122+mph in 4th gear. I'll still have to hit 5th. If I do anything for gears I'm going to build a dogbox 5 speed.
I have to agree with you re: shorter gearing. I have the JDM 6-speed, and while it's the least ideal 6-speed setup for the quarter mile, with my current setup, and anything bigger I may do in the future, I think it's perfect. Hard to stay out of boost. :lol:
Tenacious Bee 12-03-2008, 11:43 AM These are not the 07 gears then. Check alfriedesq's thread in proven power bragging. He is not getting anywhere near shifting into 5th at the end of the 1/4.
cellgeek101 12-03-2008, 12:40 PM These are not the 07 gears then. Check alfriedesq's thread in proven power bragging. He is not getting anywhere near shifting into 5th at the end of the 1/4.
He is also revving out to about 8-8.5k.
CoolRex 12-03-2008, 12:44 PM Those are the 07 gears......Big Al is revving very high which makes a huge difference.
Tenacious Bee 12-03-2008, 01:22 PM Got it, forgot about that part.
kai_isman 04-29-2009, 07:03 PM I am seriously considering getting this.... I have a wrx with forged internals and currently on blouch td05-20g... My only concern is if this turbo is laggy like most big turbos? Any truth??
Its hitting max boost at around 4.5-5k rpm.. isn't tht a bit laggy or am i reading the charts wrongly? Also, it says that i need tgv deletes for this? Meaning I would need to gut out my tgv to run this turbo? Would it be okay to run this turbo with my tgv still on? Thought it was supposed to be fully bolt on..
Your opinions pls...
06rexwagon 04-29-2009, 08:57 PM On the dyno it will alway spool slower. I'm at 5300', so my spool is slower than most of you at lower elevation. I hit full boost at 4100-4200 in 4th (6 speed). That's 29psi. I don't consider this a laggy turbo. It's laggier than a stock sti turbo, but it makes a ton more power. Since it has a 3" inlet you'll have a tough time fitting it with your tgv on. Any 3" inlet turbo will be the same.
kai_isman 04-29-2009, 09:52 PM Thanks for the reply.
I am still confused about the tgv portion... If i already done my tgv delete, meaning those flaps in my tgv's are taken out, its considered a tgv delete and should fit the turbo? But with or without tgv deletes(those flappy thingies in the tgv housing), the tgv housing is still there and will block the turbo still?
From my understanding of TGV deletes, u just cut out those flappy thingies in the tgv housing. Whereas for this turbo setup, do i need to remove the whole TGV housing out? Confused...
06rexwagon 04-29-2009, 10:18 PM You're fine if you already deleted the butterflies and motors. You don't need to remove the tgv housing. It's the sensors and motors that get in the way.
zeropsi 04-29-2009, 10:31 PM I am seriously considering getting this.... I have a wrx with forged internals and currently on blouch td05-20g... My only concern is if this turbo is laggy like most big turbos? Any truth??
Its hitting max boost at around 4.5-5k rpm.. isn't tht a bit laggy or am i reading the charts wrongly? Also, it says that i need tgv deletes for this? Meaning I would need to gut out my tgv to run this turbo? Would it be okay to run this turbo with my tgv still on? Thought it was supposed to be fully bolt on..
Your opinions pls...
Is that on a 2.0? Wow. :eek: That would be awesome.
On the dyno it will alway spool slower. I'm at 5300', so my spool is slower than most of you at lower elevation. I hit full boost at 4100-4200 in 4th (6 speed). That's 29psi. I don't consider this a laggy turbo. It's laggier than a stock sti turbo, but it makes a ton more power. Since it has a 3" inlet you'll have a tough time fitting it with your tgv on. Any 3" inlet turbo will be the same.
I need one...that's awesome spool.
06rexwagon 09-15-2009, 12:55 PM Back from the dead. I just finished a completely new motor with a built bottom end, head work, GSC stage 2 cams and a new fuel system. I'm going to dyno it again next week with the Dom4 and E85. Some time in the next month or so I'll be receiving the next big thing from Blouch. Stay tuned.
juanmedina 09-15-2009, 01:01 PM So FP and Blouch are coming out with new turbos :popcorn:
PS: send that Dom4 this way ;) :lol:
dye.sti 09-15-2009, 01:02 PM good to hear!
im2ninja4u 09-15-2009, 01:05 PM Next big thing from Blouch?? Dom 5.0? lol..
dub11dub 09-15-2009, 02:16 PM did you run this car at the track yet?
UFOpilot 09-15-2009, 02:24 PM Nice to see folks with the wagon in sleeper mode. "Oh, we're racing ? Ok, but I'm just going to leave the kid seats in the back." :lol:
06rexwagon 09-15-2009, 03:51 PM did you run this car at the track yet?
I ran it last season on stock tires with an open rear diff (3.90 without an lsd). I managed an 11.69@121.90. Our track is at 5400' above sea level. I have since blown up the rear diff and swapped the rest of the STi drivetrain in. I have an R180 and some Falken Azenis. I'll have it at the track very soon.
06rexwagon 09-15-2009, 03:53 PM Nice to see folks with the wagon in sleeper mode. "Oh, we're racing ? Ok, but I'm just going to leave the kid seats in the back." :lol:
Yea I usually leave them in.
06rexwagon 09-23-2009, 10:57 AM Put the new motor in, got it broken in and took it back to the dyno. Old set up made 546/540 at 30psi. Now at 28-29 (dyno reads boost about 1.5psi higher than my Defi) it made a little more power, 548/550. I'm also running a lower CR now, stock 8.2 instead of the 8.76 I ran on the last motor. The turbo is simply maxed out. New turbo will be here very very soon.
Notice that the smoothing is set to 0. Still a very smooth power band.
Self tuned, self built, daily driven.
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m105/06rexwagon/cameron.jpg
Mooneyes13 09-23-2009, 11:02 AM this thing is going to produce some serious trap speed.
Damnn. Over 500whp for almost 3k rpms. I wonder what it would look like if that boost held on a little better in the top end.
06rexwagon 09-23-2009, 11:07 AM Few motor build pictures: because I like pictures
Eagle rods (not the best, but better than stock)
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m105/06rexwagon/shortblock003.jpg
Coated CP's
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m105/06rexwagon/shortblock002-1.jpg
GSC S2's
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m105/06rexwagon/longblock003.jpg
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m105/06rexwagon/longblock001.jpg
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m105/06rexwagon/engineinstall004.jpg
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m105/06rexwagon/engineinstall022.jpg
blkscooby 09-23-2009, 11:15 AM Wow, Cam can't wait to see the new turbo. That is rediculous, esp at altitude. Nice build too.
juanmedina 09-23-2009, 11:21 AM What will it make uncorrected?
Nice Cameron, Is the new turbo bigger? :devil:
When are you going to the track?
06rexwagon 09-23-2009, 11:24 AM What will it make uncorrected?
Nice Cameron, Is the new turbo bigger? :devil:
When are you going to the track?
Our crappy altitude kills us uncorrected. Density altitude is over 7500'. Makes about 460 uncorrected here. IDC's with the new fuel system are only 80% at stock pressure though. I can go to lower altitude without running out of fuel. The new turbo is a prototype from Blouch and yes, it's bigger. I'm taking it to the track as it is on October 3rd.
06rexwagon 09-23-2009, 11:51 AM Here's what I'm allowed to say about the new Blouch.
It has a new revised billet compressor, and a larger revised turbine housing
I'll probably end up starting a new thread soon.
teaser pic
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m105/06rexwagon/IMG00013-20090923-1112.jpg
rexworx 09-23-2009, 12:07 PM Sweet, well hopefully the hot and cold side housing might be a upgrade to the DOM3 etc.
Let us know how things work out.
jonnies 09-23-2009, 02:20 PM 06rexwagon did you noticed any beneficts from the gsc s2 cams?where they worthy it in your opion?i have a dom3 running on e85 and am about to built my motor and was wondering if doind cams is actually worth it (would go with gsc s2 as well)...
Phatron 09-23-2009, 03:18 PM Put the new motor in, got it broken in and took it back to the dyno. Old set up made 546/540 at 30psi. Now at 28-29 (dyno reads boost about 1.5psi higher than my Defi) it made a little more power, 548/550. I'm also running a lower CR now, stock 8.2 instead of the 8.76 I ran on the last motor. The turbo is simply maxed out. New turbo will be here very very soon.
Notice that the smoothing is set to 0. Still a very smooth power band.
Self tuned, self built, daily driven.
wow. that graph is crazy. some interesting things about it.
1) a turbo that big hitting peak hp at 5600 rpm. most peak way later
2) you hold power very well
3) the power doesnt oscillate with what appear to be quite significant boost oscillations, this would suggest to me that you can lower the boost 2-3 psi across the board with little or no power loss.
very nice setup
06rexwagon 09-24-2009, 10:38 AM 06rexwagon did you noticed any beneficts from the gsc s2 cams?where they worthy it in your opion?i have a dom3 running on e85 and am about to built my motor and was wondering if doind cams is actually worth it (would go with gsc s2 as well)...
I was able to make slightly more power at less boost. I didn't get the gains I expected but that's probably more due to the fact that my turbo was already maxed out previously. I don't regret doing them.
06rexwagon 09-24-2009, 10:41 AM wow. that graph is crazy. some interesting things about it.
1) a turbo that big hitting peak hp at 5600 rpm. most peak way later
2) you hold power very well
3) the power doesnt oscillate with what appear to be quite significant boost oscillations, this would suggest to me that you can lower the boost 2-3 psi across the board with little or no power loss.
very nice setup
Thank you! I'm pretty satisfied with the car now. This year I finished my full STi drivetrain swap so I've got the axles, diff, and brakes to round it out. Nothing about the car is marginal anymore (fuel system isn't maxed like it was, clutch is a twin plate, etc).
cucamelsmd15 09-24-2009, 11:14 AM Sweet Jesus Cam, that thing is a beast. :ritz:
<- is envious
06rexwagon 09-24-2009, 12:49 PM Photos of my actual turbo shipping today from Blouch. Those guys are the best!
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m105/06rexwagon/IMG00014-20090924-1126.jpg
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m105/06rexwagon/IMG00015-20090924-1127.jpg
Mycues1982 09-24-2009, 02:41 PM Any info on that beauty? Hotside looks large.
godforbid67 09-24-2009, 02:46 PM Photos of my actual turbo shipping today from Blouch. Those guys are the best!
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m105/06rexwagon/IMG00014-20090924-1126.jpg
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m105/06rexwagon/IMG00015-20090924-1127.jpg
Info!!??
GeneralTJI 09-24-2009, 03:15 PM Thank you! I'm pretty satisfied with the car now. This year I finished my full STi drivetrain swap so I've got the axles, diff, and brakes to round it out. Nothing about the car is marginal anymore (fuel system isn't maxed like it was, clutch is a twin plate, etc).
Very cool Cam. I sold of my R180 etc. when I put my 6 speed in.. didn't have the money to change hubs/brakes/wheels etc. But I sure wish I could have... nasty setup you have there, and stock location turbo to top it off!
06rexwagon 09-24-2009, 03:27 PM Any info on that beauty? Hotside looks large.
I'm going to start a new thread, but what I can say for now is that it's a 10cm hot side and new high flow billet compressor wheel. They are going to call them the XT and XT-R series
im2ninja4u 09-24-2009, 03:43 PM I take it you're still running on the Dom 4.0 right now?? Also, link to the new thread ;).
Epic Motorsports 09-24-2009, 03:56 PM I like what they did with the powder coating lol
06rexwagon 09-24-2009, 04:13 PM I take it you're still running on the Dom 4.0 right now?? Also, link to the new thread ;).
Still on the Dom4 for the time being, but not for long. New thread will be started shortly.
Update: Turbo is being overnighted. That bad bish is going on the car asap and new dyno #'s by midweek next week.
s42k1 09-24-2009, 04:16 PM Next big thing from Blouch?? Dom 5.0? lol..
We have some great new things in the works here at blouch.... Over the next month or two we will be releasing more than a few new bolt-on subaru turbos... We hope you guys will like the new changes and updated aero that we are currently testing...
06rexwagon 09-24-2009, 04:37 PM Link to new thread.
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1851528
im2ninja4u 09-24-2009, 08:56 PM Still on the Dom4 for the time being, but not for long. New thread will be started shortly.
Update: Turbo is being overnighted. That bad bish is going on the car asap and new dyno #'s by midweek next week.
Sounds good, time for my engine build to handle all that powa!
We have some great new things in the works here at blouch.... Over the next month or two we will be releasing more than a few new bolt-on subaru turbos... We hope you guys will like the new changes and updated aero that we are currently testing...
Sounds good!
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