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Irvine Subaru
03-27-2002, 02:10 PM
$380.00 + shipping and in stock.

Ryan

25RS
03-27-2002, 02:31 PM
more info. pics.

Irvine Subaru
03-27-2002, 04:00 PM
That would be a good idea! ;)
http://imagescommerce.bcentral.com/merchantfiles/4565264/promuff.jpg

Manufactured from stainless steel specifically for the new Impreza WRX with an oval tailpipe following the lines of the rear bumper. Fitting this silencer will give a small increase in performance whilst accentuating the charismatic 'flat 4' exhaust note. Will fit with factory rear spoiler.

dwx
03-27-2002, 04:08 PM
Actually I think I'll take one if it's for the 2002 WRX. Who do I contact about ordering one?

Irvine Subaru
03-27-2002, 04:15 PM
Oops again... this is for the MY02 WRX. I'm apparently not all here today.

You can contact me directly at 949-452-0100 x107
or PM with a number you can be reached at.

Ryan

Scooby do
03-27-2002, 07:36 PM
Wow thats a good deal! I paid about $100 more, oh well.

STiTuner
03-27-2002, 08:47 PM
I remember paying a lot more for mine aswell.

but it looks a lot better on the car then in bubble wrap ;)


Brad

Redwinger
03-27-2002, 09:30 PM
do ya'll sell one for the MY02 RS?

Irvine Subaru
03-27-2002, 11:24 PM
Prodrive doesn't make a muffler for an RS, but I do have other alternatives. If the hangers are in the same spot on both cars then it will fit. I know 1 of the hangers is different between the RS and the WRX. Will double check in the AM.

Ryan

frog2000
03-28-2002, 12:30 AM
Hey Ryan I PMed you. I'll call you at 949-452-0100 x107 tomorow.

uwrx
03-28-2002, 12:44 AM
Hey Irvine,

That's my pic being served on my dime, surely a vendor can do better than this :mad:

Got mine from Luke at TireRack for $329 + shipping but he's out of stock. $350 is still a good deal for this product.

Slvrblt
03-28-2002, 12:59 AM
how's the sound on this thing?

speed safely

Brian :devil:

Scoobie Doogie
03-28-2002, 01:28 AM
You post a pic on the net and it is anyones to use. If you don't want your photo used you MUST copyright. No you cannot get any $$ if someone uses you photo either...unless copywritten.

Dave

uwrx
03-28-2002, 01:59 AM
I could not care less about the copyright bs, I'm not out to make a buck here. On the other hand I do expect a vendor to at least show me the courtesy of copying the photo to his server so I don't get stuck serving an image being used for his commercial gain.

I think this is fair. You might disagree but then again I don't care.

Irvine Subaru
03-28-2002, 04:37 AM
Originally posted by uwrx
Hey Irvine,

That's my pic being served on my dime, surely a vendor can do better than this :mad:



Really sorry about this. I e-mailed you about using it, but don't know if the i-club mail works (not a PM). If you want me to pull it, no problem. I needed to get a pic and I'm out a digital camera right now. Again, really sorry.

Ryan

edit: PM'd you.

omahasubaru
03-28-2002, 08:28 AM
What diameter is the inlet to this back box? Do you carry the older GC8/GF8 WR Sport exhausts too??

Jon

Rebellion
03-28-2002, 08:40 AM
what kinda "loud" are we talking w/ this muffler? I'd like something not too much louder than stock unless I'm WOT where the more rumble the better. :)

Shinji N
03-28-2002, 08:49 AM
Originally posted by Scoobie Doogie
You post a pic on the net and it is anyones to use. If you don't want your photo used you MUST copyright. No you cannot get any $$ if someone uses you photo either...unless copywritten.

Dave

I *LOVE* it when someone steals my bandwidth like that.
If someone just copies it, hosts it on their own server and posts it, oh well; I could care less.
If someone just links to an image on my webserver to post on a forum... :devil: I just replace it with the most hardcore gay pornography I can and watch the chaos ensue.
They think twice the next time.

SkirtBoy
03-28-2002, 11:54 AM
:devil:

uwrx
03-28-2002, 12:09 PM
Ryan: No problem. Feel free to use the photo as long as you can copy it to your photo server. I never did get your email but I received the PM and thanks for that. Let me know if you need any more photos, I'll should have some good pics of the WR Sport installed if it ever stops raining over here. I might even have a video clip with sound you can use. Drop me a PM if you're interested.

Shinji: I like your thinking :lol: I had actually considered a "Shop at TireRack" replacement but mostly as a joke :D

As for the rest of you kids who like Dave think that all Internet photos are in the public domain you are WRONG. All intellectual property, even my lousy muffler photo, is automatically covered by copyright law the second it is created.

U.S. Copyright Office (http://www.loc.gov/copyright/faq.html#q13)

uwrx
03-28-2002, 12:16 PM
Robroy72,

If the stock muffler hooks up to the MRT then the WR Sport will also.

Irvine Subaru
03-28-2002, 01:01 PM
uwrx - PM'd you.

Ryan

alphanumerix
03-28-2002, 02:14 PM
bolt on right? and im also curious on how "loud" this muffler can get, thanks

Irvine Subaru
03-28-2002, 02:50 PM
I just checked and the hangers on the WRX and the RS (MY02) are different on the muffler. This will fit, but will require moving the rear muffler on the hanger. Any exhaust shop should be able to do this.

Ryan

jblaine
03-28-2002, 04:34 PM
I just checked and the hangers on the WRX and the RS (MY02) are different on the muffler. This will fit, but will require moving the rear muffler on the hanger. Any exhaust shop should be able to do this.So, that modification is needed on the RS? Or WRX? Or...

Irvine Subaru
03-28-2002, 05:16 PM
You would have the change the hangers to fit this to an RS (MY02). The WRX is a direct bolt on.

Ryan

jblaine
03-28-2002, 05:37 PM
Crud. I'm all over this if I'm able to see a pic directly from the back and ideally hear a sound file (pickyness kicks in when it's a $350 sound/feel/look mod and you don't want it to be too loud :) )

I hope I don't miss out.

dwx
03-28-2002, 06:31 PM
A simple search for prodrive muffler yielded this thread with a few pictures:

http://www.i-club.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=162133

Hedonic Treadmill
03-28-2002, 06:31 PM
I second the request for the sound clip.

Irvine Subaru
03-28-2002, 07:01 PM
Working on the sound clip now.

Impreza2fast
03-29-2002, 03:53 AM
Cat back or just the rear section only?

joe

omahasubaru
03-29-2002, 08:52 AM
Can you give us sizing diameter information?

Jon

jblaine
03-29-2002, 08:57 AM
From the thread linked several posts up: The tip is 4.5" x 3.5" and the pipe is 2.5"

dwx
03-29-2002, 12:03 PM
Originally posted by Impreza2fast
Cat back or just the rear section only?

joe

Rear section, axle-back.

Phil

Irvine Subaru
03-29-2002, 12:31 PM
Yes, it is a rear section. The piping is 2.5".

Ryan

suby2002
03-29-2002, 01:53 PM
Ryan,

Just received the muffler, looks good. I can't believe it got here in less than 24 hours. Thanks for the rapid response. :)

Now if I can only find some money to finish the exhaust system.:devil:

Irvine Subaru
03-29-2002, 02:19 PM
Originally posted by suby2002
Ryan,

Just received the muffler, looks good. I can't believe it got here in less than 24 hours. Thanks for the rapid response. :)

Now if I can only find some money to finish the exhaust system.:devil:

Not a problem. Let us know if there is anything else you need. :D

Ryan

nickH
03-29-2002, 02:46 PM
Catback???

Does prodrive make a catback system for the WRX?

I am interested in Catback system, and I'm also interested in spending less than 600 on it.

Irvine Subaru
03-29-2002, 04:00 PM
As of right now there is NO cat-back. Just a muffler section. I will be talking to Prodrive on Monday and will find out about getting a center pipe.

Ryan

Irvine Subaru
03-29-2002, 07:44 PM
I've sold out until I get more in. Due in 4/15.

Ryan

kurichan
03-29-2002, 07:56 PM
Here we go again. Opinion flippantly represented as fact.

Folks, Scoobie Doggie's opinion (quoted below) is just flat out WRONG.

The moment you create a unique image, you own it. Check with the US Copyright Office if you don't believe me.

Originally posted by Scoobie Doogie
You post a pic on the net and it is anyones to use. If you don't want your photo used you MUST copyright. No you cannot get any $$ if someone uses you photo either...unless copywritten.

Dave

JSTFERFUN
03-29-2002, 08:15 PM
Ryan,

I PM'd you.

Eric

uwrx
03-29-2002, 10:24 PM
The ScoobySport down and mid pipes should hook up directly if you're looking for a cat back or turbo back to go with this muffler.

A lot of guys on the UK board run this setup.

uwrx
03-29-2002, 10:29 PM
jblaine,

This box is not too loud...trust me. I've got a five year old and this was my major concern. The sound volume is just perfect for me.

I'll try and post a sound file tomorrow.

WRSport
03-29-2002, 10:59 PM
Any chance you can still acquire a Prodrive WR sport muffler?

Hence, fits Gc8.

_chris

jblaine
03-29-2002, 11:08 PM
Awesome, I'd love to hear it, uwrx. That'd be cool if you get around to it, but that's a pretty good testimony anyway.

WagonMonster
03-30-2002, 08:57 PM
I picked mine up from Irvine yesterday and installed it!

The whole install took less than a half an hour with the proper tools (Ramps, 14mm Socket, 14mm box wrench and some WD40)

The sound is really nice..

At idle it's a quiet, yet distinctive burble. Under acceleration it has a nice throaty growl that will put a big grin on your face and make people notice, but isn't so loud that you'll attract cops. It's a little louder than stock, but the tone is definitely more aggressive.

I am very happy with mine! :D

Here's a pic of it installed:

WagonMonster
03-30-2002, 08:58 PM
and another :D

uwrx
03-30-2002, 09:06 PM
Sorry to let you down guys but my digital camera is just not up to recording a video with decent audio. I'll try and figure something else out.

I did get some better shots of the box installed.

Ryan, feel free to use these if you want.

http://home.attbi.com/~uwrx/106-0648_IMG.JPG
http://home.attbi.com/~uwrx/106-0649_IMG.JPG
http://home.attbi.com/~uwrx/106-0653_IMG.JPG
http://home.attbi.com/~uwrx/106-0652_img.jpg

jblaine
03-30-2002, 09:25 PM
Thanks for the pics, both of you. They look good.

SoLo OnE
03-30-2002, 10:34 PM
The prodrive muffler is one of the best looking exhausts for the WRX. The sound is a little bit louder than stock.

For the people that are looking for a catback the solution is easy. Just get the ScoobySport rear center pipe. Since all the parts bolt up to the stock locations it will fit fine.

thrashvr6
03-31-2002, 08:39 PM
Has anyone with this muffler been able to compare it to the sound from a Scoobysport muffler? I had a Scoobysport on my car for about a month, and the volume was just a little too much. I really miss the sound, though! If the prodrive was somewhere between stock and the scoobysport in volume, I would snap one up in a minute.

Thanks,
Greg

WagonMonster
03-31-2002, 09:18 PM
Originally posted by thrashvr6
Has anyone with this muffler been able to compare it to the sound from a Scoobysport muffler? I had a Scoobysport on my car for about a month, and the volume was just a little too much. I really miss the sound, though! If the prodrive was somewhere between stock and the scoobysport in volume, I would snap one up in a minute.

Thanks,
Greg

yes ;)

aov
03-31-2002, 09:47 PM
...if the tip only looked like the STi one... :(

-anders

dwx
03-31-2002, 10:06 PM
I actually like the tip on the prodrive one better than the sti one. I'm not a big fan of large round tips, that's why this one is appealing to me and probably alot of other people.

aov
03-31-2002, 10:39 PM
I totally understand that I and like that there are different options out there, especialy when the quality and price are sp reasonable, it just sucks that they somehow think that charging ~$800 for the STi one is acceptable...

-anders

thrashvr6
04-01-2002, 10:58 AM
Originally posted by WagonMonster


yes ;)

I'm going to take this to mean "Your dream exhuast has arrived. Buy it right this minute!"

:lol:

- Greg

WagonMonster
04-01-2002, 11:48 AM
Originally posted by thrashvr6


I'm going to take this to mean "Your dream exhuast has arrived. Buy it right this minute!"

:lol:

- Greg

yes ;)

Irvine Subaru
04-01-2002, 01:02 PM
Will stopped by my house on Friday after he put the exhaust on. Looked like a little kid with a new toy. Kept talking about how much he liked it. :D:D:D

I'll have more soon I hope.

Ryan

p.s. Happy Late Easter

omahasubaru
04-02-2002, 09:28 AM
Let me know when your next stock of these come back in. I've always liked them, but didn't figure I'd get much out of the 2.5" size, but since then cars have changed and so have my plans... So now I'm interested. Will any GC8/GF8 fitment ones be coming in your next shipment?

Check these nice pics of the exhaust on the best Subaru ever made in my opinion :D (I know you 22B lovers won't agree with me).

http://upload.turbosport.co.uk/gallery3/200232804750365363.jpg

http://upload.turbosport.co.uk/gallery3/200232804750447545.jpg

Thanks - Jon

jblaine
04-02-2002, 10:55 AM
Is that really the same exhaust as the Prodrive WRS?

wighti
04-02-2002, 11:54 AM
I've been looking for one of these for my GC8 but, no luck!
How much would it take to fit this on my car?
Are you getting any to fit the GC8s?
I want one BAD!!

Irvine Subaru
04-02-2002, 04:31 PM
The rear hanger on the muffler is different between the GC and GD. You would have to change that hanger to be able to use this on a GC.

Ryan

b5m
04-03-2002, 01:50 AM
Did anyone manage to create a video or sound file for this Prodrive muffler? I would be very interested to hear since I am thinking of buying one soon.
A ScoobySport muffler sounds wonderful but is a bit too loud for my tastes.

Conrad Lai
04-03-2002, 02:12 AM
Can I still order one?

wighti
04-03-2002, 02:18 AM
Can I get one without hangers??:)

WagonRX
04-03-2002, 02:29 AM
Ryan,

Please post when you get them in stock and put me on the order list to get one.

Russell

Irvine Subaru
04-03-2002, 03:45 AM
Will bump this as soon as more become available.
I'd take an order, but am uncomfortable holding a cc#/money without product. Only in rare situations will anything be prepaid. It's not fair to you and not 100% neccesary to my survival.

Ryan

omahasubaru
04-03-2002, 08:03 AM
Can you order GC8/GF8 versions? If so is the price the same/similar?

Jon

omahasubaru
04-05-2002, 06:39 AM
BTW, I've got the money waiting.

gtguy
04-05-2002, 08:14 AM
It's worth the wait. I parked next to an AMG Mercedes yesterday morning, and it's shocking how similar the mufflers look. Both have that ovalized, stainless tip. But the Prodrive actually looks nicer.

Those worried about the sound need not be. I have a wagon, and the problem for me with mufflers has always been the cargo bay amplifying things. This is not the case with the Prodrive. Mind you, my stock muffler was loud as heck (for a stock WRX box), but the Prodrive isn't any louder than stock at idle, but it is deeper in tone. When you're on it, you get a very nice tone that is never, ever intrusive. At 80 mph, it sounds like stock.

When you're in the throttle, if stock is a 2 on the volume meter, the Prodrive is about a 4, while the Stromung is a 6, the Cobb is a 7. Everything else that I have heard is louder. From everything that I hear, the Scoobysport is an 11. :D

Oh, this is also the most integrated-looking aftermarket muffler. It looks as if it belongs on the car. That's a hard thing to explain, but those who have them, know what I'm talking about. If you look at pix in this thread of the silver wagon, you'll see what I'm talking about. And it looks much better in person.

Kevin

wighti
04-05-2002, 02:03 PM
Us GC8 guys want that muffler!!!

Please Help!
Bump!! Bump!!

Irvine Subaru
04-05-2002, 02:38 PM
Working on it. I e-mailed Prodrive to see if the P1 is available and if it will fit properly without modifying the flange. Will let you guys know as soon as I can.

Ryan

supermarkus
04-05-2002, 04:14 PM
Ditto what Kevin said, this is how the car was meant to sound! I'm seriously loving mine. It's very distinctive, yet not overstated and best of all, it doesn't drone on the highway. It's very stock like at cruising speeds, but under load it growls.

blkntz74
04-05-2002, 09:36 PM
Anybody use an aftermarket hanger with this exhaust? Can you? Should you?
TIA
-Scott

supermarkus
04-05-2002, 10:39 PM
Originally posted by blkntz74
Anybody use an aftermarket hanger with this exhaust? Can you? Should you?
TIA
-Scott

http://i-club.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=168348

Saved you a search.

wighti
04-05-2002, 11:29 PM
Originally posted by Irvine Subaru
Working on it. I e-mailed Prodrive to see if the P1 is available and if it will fit properly without modifying the flange. Will let you guys know as soon as I can.

Ryan


Thank you very much!!

It's either the ScoobySport or the Prodrive.
Does anybody know how they compare in Hp & Torq gains?

Edit--Sorry, I'll try a search:o :rolleyes:

omahasubaru
04-08-2002, 05:36 PM
Originally posted by Irvine Subaru
Working on it. I e-mailed Prodrive to see if the P1 is available and if it will fit properly without modifying the flange. Will let you guys know as soon as I can. - Ryan This isn't a P1 muffler. This is a P1 with the GC8/GF8 WR Sport fitted on it. Yes beleive it or not Prodrive did offer GC8 products.

They did have a WRSport exhaust for the older Impreza's. It's the same one you guys used to sell on you site. When you had that one raven haired lady holding it.

Hope fully that will clear things up.

Jon

dwx
04-08-2002, 06:22 PM
Originally posted by wighti



Thank you very much!!

It's either the ScoobySport or the Prodrive.
Does anybody know how they compare in Hp & Torq gains?

Edit--Sorry, I'll try a search:o :rolleyes:

HP and TQ gains would be negligible with any muffler, imho. It's something I would really get for the look or sound of it. I think it may have helped me a tiny bit seeing as I have a different downpipe/midpipe and the prodrive is a bit freer flowing and 2.5" versus the stock muffler. With the rest of the exhaust stock I'm not sure you'll see much, if anything.

Irvine Subaru
04-08-2002, 06:57 PM
Originally posted by omahasubaru
This isn't a P1 muffler. This is a P1 with the GC8/GF8 WR Sport fitted on it. Yes beleive it or not Prodrive did offer GC8 products.

They did have a WRSport exhaust for the older Impreza's. It's the same one you guys used to sell on you site. When you had that one raven haired lady holding it.

Hope fully that will clear things up.

Jon

I know this isnt a P1. The WR Sport series has been around a while. The only reason the P1 wouldn't bolt to stock is because of the flange size being different. I e-mailed Prodrive, just waiting for them to get back to me. If they don't I will be seeing them for Auto Salon at the end of the month.

Ryan

omahasubaru
04-08-2002, 07:43 PM
Cool as truth fully the P1 standard exhaust is the good ole STi standard backbox.

I really don't care where the flange is at, as long as the hangers will match up. I have the STi standard backbox fitted to my car and had the SPD custom midpipe that resolved the flange issue. I can re-weld on a flange if needed to make it fit. I will be doing exhaust prior to the backbox further down the road anyway.

Thanks and let me know when you hear back. I'm still interested in one, but will need to hear something soon, or I'll be getting coilovers and my funds will be tapped and no room for exhaust (even at this killer price).

Thanks again Irvine! - Jon

newscooby
04-12-2002, 11:57 AM
Ryan,
I'm just bumping the thread. I saw gtguy's last night and suddenly feel the need to spend $300.

Let us know when you get more :D

Thanks
Mike :cool:

gtguy
04-12-2002, 12:18 PM
:D

Kevin

dolbnyc1
04-12-2002, 12:18 PM
Yeah, me tooo, the $$$ is burning a hole in my pocket
I don't want to give it to the Olympic Garden chics
hurry up!

blkntz74
04-12-2002, 10:01 PM
I put mine on today:D
Me like very much:D
This is the only exhaust mod I have right now so obviously no performance gains, but it sounds awesome!
I'm back to leaving the radio off again just to hear it grumble.
Thanks Ryan
-Scott

dolbnyc1
04-13-2002, 02:36 AM
well i couldnt wait, so I ordered a Borla Cat Back, I will be installing it tomorrow, they say it's loud, oh well we will see

Irvine Subaru
04-14-2002, 04:34 AM
Hey guys, sorry for the hiatus. I've been in and out of the office a lot due to International Auto Salon being next week. We have a booth and its a lot of co-ordination and ordering stuff and a bunch of other boring stuff. That and I had the opportunity to be in a 'movie'.
I haven't heard back from Prodrive yet as to whether they will send me exhausts for the GC body. I did find out that the next batch of GD exhausts will be arriving within a week to a week and a half. I'll post as soon as the carrier drops them off.
Those that got theirs, glad to know you're enjoying them. They really do have great sound quality.

Ryan

WagonMonster
04-14-2002, 01:16 PM
I **Heart** My Prodrive Muffler

:D

Bigpants
04-15-2002, 12:02 PM
Well, dolbnyc1, what do you think about the Borla?
Dana

rex555
04-15-2002, 09:25 PM
How much louder is this muffler over stock? / over the scoobysport?

Godmal
04-16-2002, 12:05 AM
I'm being lazy and not reading the entire thread before I post, so go ahead and flame if you want, but...

Does anyojne know if this muffler will fit on the APS turboback setup? I really like this muffler and would rather have it than the one I am currently running.

rlburg
04-16-2002, 12:50 AM
Ryan,
Please send me a PM if possible when you get your new shipment of the muffler instock. I am very interested in purchasing one. Thanks.

uwrx
04-16-2002, 02:19 AM
Godmal,

If you can fit the stock muffler to the APS turbo back then you can fit the Prodrive.

gtguy
04-16-2002, 07:32 AM
Originally posted by rex555
How much louder is this muffler over stock? / over the scoobysport?

The Prodrive is barely louder than stock, and not at all intrusive. It is, as far as I know, the quietest muffler for Scoobies out there, which explains why I like it so much. :lol:

Kevin

supermarkus
04-16-2002, 10:00 AM
Get this, I actually heard my car backfire a little today with this muffler. The stock unit NEVER let me hear any backfire. It sounds so much sportier now with more bass and a little more backfire. Now that the muffler has burned in a little, the volume is up slightly at WOT and at startup. But at cruise and idle, you can carry on a normal conversation with the stereo on 3-4, my girlfriend couldn't even tell anything was different and she hates loud exhausts.

wighti
04-16-2002, 11:17 AM
Originally posted by gtguy


The Prodrive is barely louder than stock, and not at all intrusive. It is, as far as I know, the quietest muffler for Scoobies out there, which explains why I like it so much. :lol:

Kevin



Maybe that's why people say they don't see any gains (hp&tq) with the Prodrive.
But, I think the Loud Ass Scoobysport will give better gains.

supermarkus
04-17-2002, 02:43 AM
Loud or not, you're not going to get noticable gains with just a muffler. I don't care who makes it, just an axle back isn't going to throw you into the 240 hp range. I have yet to see conclusive proof that any muffler alone can give appreciable hp gains. Prove me wrong, please.

newscooby
04-17-2002, 09:55 AM
I'm sure your correct, but the ability to hear what my engine is doing is good enough to register gains with my ass dyno.

Given my piece of crap OEM muffler looks like crap (well, the pipe leading to the muffler actually) after this winter. I think the $300 and change spent on a good SS piece that doesn't drone and get obnoxiosly loud is well spent.

YMMV :D
Mike :cool:

wighti
04-17-2002, 10:37 AM
I think I was still sleepping when I posted that!

I've seen the SS cat-back will give gains.
NOT just the muffler.

Will the Prodrive mount up to the SS midpipe??

supermarkus
04-17-2002, 10:52 AM
From what I've seen in my research... YES! This is exactly the route I'm going to take if I can scare up enough money. If not I'll just have a stainless 2.5" pipe bent for me somewhere, I'm pretty sure that'll cost less than the Scooby Sport mid pipes.

newscooby: It IS money well spent, it's so much easier to match revs by hearing now, I don't always have to take my eyes off the road to check my revs.

2QUICK4U
04-17-2002, 01:46 PM
Hey Ryan,

Is there anyway to get just the exhaust tip from one of these. I need something for the end of my MRT.

Let me know,
Frank

WagonMonster
04-17-2002, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by 2QUICK4U
Hey Ryan,

Is there anyway to get just the exhaust tip from one of these. I need something for the end of my MRT.

Let me know,
Frank

The tip on the prodrive muffler is welded on and would be too big for the MRT exhaust anyway, sorry.

GRWRX
04-17-2002, 08:37 PM
Did anyone post a sound-clip?

Rattler
04-18-2002, 05:50 PM
I have a BOrla cat-back now. After installing a downipipe, I am getting kind of tired of the volume it has. Anyone know if this muffler should bolt-up to the Borla? I need something to quiet it down some. I heard the Prodrive at a recent install day and liked it.

dolbnyc1
04-18-2002, 06:23 PM
I too have the Borla Cat back, and the funny thing about that exhaust is, that all of the noise is in and under the car, or near
it, if you are up or down the street from it you can hardly
hear it. It definitely drones too much, and its all local noise
from within the car. The Prodrive will not bolt up to the Borla.
maybe you can get someone to buy it off of you, and then you can put the prodrive back on with the stock midpipe.

Rattler
04-20-2002, 07:08 AM
The stocker is sitting in the garage. Shouldn't be too big of a hassle. I think it took us 20 minutes to put the Borla on.

What is the ETA for more? I know another place that won't have them until the 20th of May.

Scottie
04-20-2002, 05:14 PM
Originally posted by gtguy


The Prodrive is barely louder than stock, and not at all intrusive. It is, as far as I know, the quietest muffler for Scoobies out there, which explains why I like it so much. :lol:

Kevin

What about the the AVO/SPO turbo back system? The Oct. 2001 issue of SCC said that system was very quiet. It has the added benefit of providing some decent low end grunt. That SPO stage I car had the sweetest torque curve (from a daily drivers perspective) of any car in that "Great Expectations" article. Granted it had a few more add-ons than just the turbo-back system, but my guess is that the exhaust had the most to do with the low end improvement. From the graph, it looked like the the SPO stage I car was making the same torgue as the stock car@3500rpm some 400rpm sooner. Not too shabby.

gtguy
04-20-2002, 10:28 PM
I don't trust SCC as far as I can throw them when it comes to assessments like that, and I'm not into turbo-back systems. The stock setup is fine, it just needs a better voice, IMHO. :D

Kevin

supermarkus
04-20-2002, 11:07 PM
I posted a link to my sound bites in this thread http://www.i-club.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=1813953

Scottie
04-21-2002, 05:07 PM
Originally posted by gtguy
I don't trust SCC as far as I can throw them when it comes to assessments like that,.... :D

Kevin

Are you referring to SCC's subjective opinion of the sound, or the objective numbers presented in the torque and horsepower curves?

nhluhr
04-22-2002, 01:17 AM
Originally posted by gtguy
When you're in the throttle, if stock is a 2 on the volume meter, the Prodrive is about a 4, while the Stromung is a 6, the Cobb is a 7. Everything else that I have heard is louder. From everything that I hear, the Scoobysport is an 11. :D


These amplifiers are specially made. Most amplifiers only go up to 10, but ours go up to eleven!!!!! haha.

Rattler
04-22-2002, 02:20 AM
Spinal Tap rules! Only 2 other movies with more quotes: Pupl Fiction and Slapshot. Well, ok, BLues Brothers and Animal House are close too.

gtguy
04-22-2002, 08:54 AM
Originally posted by Scottie


Are you referring to SCC's subjective opinion of the sound, or the objective numbers presented in the torque and horsepower curves?

Subjective opinion of the sound, Scottie. One man's loud is another man's livable. The overall boy racer tone of the magazine leads me to believe that they will tolerate a much louder exhaust than I will, in my old age. :D

Kevin

omahasubaru
04-22-2002, 09:53 AM
Originally posted by Irvine Subaru
Hey guys, sorry for the hiatus. I've been in and out of the office a lot due to International Auto Salon being next week. We have a booth and its a lot of co-ordination and ordering stuff and a bunch of other boring stuff. That and I had the opportunity to be in a 'movie'.
I haven't heard back from Prodrive yet as to whether they will send me exhausts for the GC body. I did find out that the next batch of GD exhausts will be arriving within a week to a week and a half. I'll post as soon as the carrier drops them off.
Those that got theirs, glad to know you're enjoying them. They really do have great sound quality. - Ryan Well I'm ready to order. I'm putting a hold on the coilovers as I want to get the engine bought and built up soon as the stock RS suspension will do me fine.

I'll take the GDA version if I have to. Only one hanger will need to be moved and I can just bend up a new midpipe to fit with a different flange on the end.

Let me know if you next shipment has come in and I'll give you a call and order today.

Jon

WagonRX
04-28-2002, 07:44 PM
Ryan,

Any in stock yet?

Jman73
04-28-2002, 11:46 PM
Damn that sounds good!

I think SCC did a write up on WRX Exhuast systems recently. At least that is what my friend said.......If someone has this issue, please post a summary of the findings.

Irvine Subaru (Ryan), Let me know when you get more of these in stock.

Word.

Jeff

bdel-WRX
04-29-2002, 04:22 AM
To Irvine Subaru... how much for the labor if I decided to get it done from you guys?... Irvine is now closer to Long Beach now that I have WRX.

Irvine Subaru
04-29-2002, 01:02 PM
Should be getting more in this week.

Ryan

Irvine Subaru
04-29-2002, 04:06 PM
They just showed up. 10 available.
Still $350.00 plus shipping.

Ryan :D:D:D

I am b
04-29-2002, 04:35 PM
Hey Ryan, do you guys have any cars over there that have one installed on it? I'm almost positive i'll be there this week to pick one up but wanted to hear one first.

BOP
04-29-2002, 04:36 PM
this is pointless

Irvine Subaru
04-29-2002, 04:40 PM
No cars with any installed because they sold so fast. I might be able to get one on a car... we'll have to see.

Ryan

supermarkus
04-29-2002, 04:56 PM
I posted sound bites in the car parts forum. Keep in mind they are with the mic 4" away from the exhaust pipe, stand about 3 feetaway from your computer to simulate the actual sound ;)

Irvine Subaru
04-29-2002, 05:17 PM
Originally posted by supermarkus
I posted sound bites in the car parts forum. Keep in mind they are with the mic 4" away from the exhaust pipe, stand about 3 feetaway from your computer to simulate the actual sound ;)

I can see a bunch of people now... standing away from their computers with muffler noises coming out, wives and co-workers wondering what the hell they're doing. "Praying to the car Gods" you should tell them.
:lol::lol:

I am b
04-29-2002, 05:44 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: That was me just a few minutes ago!!! Somebody asked me if it was a Harley!!! The bites sound a little computerized:( You know what I mean.









I also just asked the wife........so who knows ryan! :D :(

Aaron

Irvine Subaru
04-29-2002, 07:23 PM
You must be firm and stand tall my friend (insert patriotic music).

Ryan

fullyimprezed
04-29-2002, 07:27 PM
Ryan,

Are these going to be a regularly stocked item, or a catch as you can item? My car was just hit (only two months old) :mad:, so I don't want to mod it until after it comes back out of the body shop maybe in a month or so. So I was trying to decide do I buy it now and store it in my garage, or what until I get my car back?

Thanks....

Irvine Subaru
04-29-2002, 08:00 PM
I get 10-15 at a time and they go pretty fast. I try to stock them, but its hard.

Ryan

rugby9
04-29-2002, 08:26 PM
2 questions:

1. What is the size of opening 4" ,4.5" bigger or smaller

2. Is there a silencer installed, or can you buy one. Listening to the sound clips, I don't think there is a need for one, just checking though.

Thanks

WagonRX
04-29-2002, 09:35 PM
Ryan,

e-mailed you

driggity
04-29-2002, 11:40 PM
How much for shipping to 98058? Thanks

And I assume you take credit cards. Am I right?

driggity
04-29-2002, 11:41 PM
oops.... double post

wighti
04-30-2002, 12:32 PM
Any info on the GC8 muffler yet??

wighti
04-30-2002, 12:36 PM
doh!

Irvine Subaru
04-30-2002, 02:30 PM
There is no silencer, but if you felt the need could add one in the center pipe.
The opening is about 4", but will measure for sure once I get a chance today.
We do take CC.
One hanger is different than the GC so if you were willing to take it to a muffler shop and have the hanger re-welded it would work on a GC chassis. Other than that, no news on the GC muffler.

Ryan

wighti
04-30-2002, 02:37 PM
So, I could use the same hangers and just weld them in a different spot?

Irvine Subaru
04-30-2002, 03:11 PM
Correct.

Conrad Lai
04-30-2002, 05:45 PM
Is this a cat-back muffler?

Irvine Subaru
04-30-2002, 05:58 PM
This is the rear muffler section only. It does not come with a center pipe.

Ryan

ScoobieBoy
04-30-2002, 06:08 PM
Ryan...PM'd you.....

Irvine Subaru
04-30-2002, 06:27 PM
K

WagonRX
05-01-2002, 12:46 AM
Ryan,

I was the guy you were taking today and my phone cut off. I sent the money order out today and you should get it by tomarrow. I forgot to to tell you my name.

Thanks,

Russell

wighti
05-01-2002, 10:48 AM
Could sombody PLEASE post a clip of the stock exhuast?
So I could compare the two.
Thanks

lark6
05-01-2002, 04:31 PM
Hello Ryan @ Irvine.

A lone voice in the wilderness here who'd like to know if you can source the WR Sport muffler (backbox) for the Forester. I came across two such beasts on a trip to the UK in November 2000.

Thank you,
Ed

Irvine Subaru
05-02-2002, 10:30 AM
Ed,

Will ask.

Ryan

lark6
05-02-2002, 12:26 PM
Originally posted by Irvine Subaru
Ed,

Will ask.

Ryan

Thanks, Ryan. That's all I can ask.

Ed

omahasubaru
05-02-2002, 02:46 PM
It will be very similar to the GC8 old school 93-01 impreza one... so if you can get the Forester from Prodrive, you can get the GC8 one too. Talk you Mastro if you have to, they used to sell the GC8 version.

Thanks - Jon

WagonRX
05-03-2002, 09:48 PM
I got mine today :D . Thanks for the fast shipping.

rex555
05-04-2002, 12:16 AM
Hi Ryan, I pmed and emailed you but no response. Can you tell me how much for shipping to Toronto ON Canada? Thank you

JSTFERFUN
05-05-2002, 03:31 AM
Hey Ryan!

Free bump.

My Prodrive "back box" has been great. Definitely increases the joy of driving the WRX!

See ya.

Eric

Irvine Subaru
05-06-2002, 12:51 PM
If you e-mailed and PM'd during this last weekend then I was out. I was competing in the Rim of the World Rally in Palmdale, CA. Getting to messages and PM's now.

Ryan

mexicanpizza
05-08-2002, 01:05 AM
Only because I was dissatisfied with the above audio clips...I made one (with pics too!) today when I installed mine...

Check it out HERE!!!!!!!!! (http://www.stanford.edu/~olivares/prodrive-muffler.avi)

-=Eric

Irvine Subaru
05-08-2002, 01:35 PM
Sweet.

supermarkus
05-08-2002, 01:42 PM
Niiiice! Until I had my engine mounts installed yesterday, I had never really heard my car being driven by someone else, just idling and reving. It's very aggressive sounding from the outside, yet not alarm bustingly loud.
Very well done.

Irvine Subaru
05-08-2002, 07:05 PM
Hey guys,

I'm out of these right now, but will have more in a couple weeks. Will let everyone know as soon as they arrive.

Ryan

no_rex_yet
05-09-2002, 12:51 PM
Whew, looks like I got my order in b/f they ran out of stock :D

I'm hoping that the Prodrive will be a bit quieter than the TurboXS muffler I had, and sold. Listening to sound clips, it seems the Prodrive is less "rumbly" at idle and revs. Hope so, as I found the TurboXS to be too drony on the highway. At 80, I could hear constant exhaust, which was quite annoying.

Visually, it looks like the Prodrive muffler itself is much larger, as it extends upwards, similar to the stock muffler. The TurboXS Magnaflow was much narrower, or flatter than stock, which I suppose gives it less noise suppression. Also, the Prodrive tip looks resonated with the internal perforations, and extends past the bumper. In contrast, the TurboXS tip stopped just short of the bumper. I think someone posted once that this would help with noise as well.

Can't wait to get the Prodrive; hope it's what I'm looking for.

gtguy
05-09-2002, 02:32 PM
Originally posted by no_rex_yet
Whew, looks like I got my order in b/f they ran out of stock :D

I'm hoping that the Prodrive will be a bit quieter than the TurboXS muffler I had, and sold. Listening to sound clips, it seems the Prodrive is less "rumbly" at idle and revs. Hope so, as I found the TurboXS to be too drony on the highway. At 80, I could hear constant exhaust, which was quite annoying.

Visually, it looks like the Prodrive muffler itself is much larger, as it extends upwards, similar to the stock muffler. The TurboXS Magnaflow was much narrower, or flatter than stock, which I suppose gives it less noise suppression. Also, the Prodrive tip looks resonated with the internal perforations, and extends past the bumper. In contrast, the TurboXS tip stopped just short of the bumper. I think someone posted once that this would help with noise as well.

Can't wait to get the Prodrive; hope it's what I'm looking for.

It will be, rex. Us wagoneers have special problems because of the cargo bay amplifying any unwanted sonic characteristics. I was looking for the same things that you're after, and the Prodrive is it. And the extended tip does indeed help. I had a Stromung on my Legacy GT wagon that was driving me crazy, until I sent it to Stromung to have the tip extended so that it went an inch past the bumper valence. Made a LOT of difference in terms of noise intrusion.

Kevin

no_rex_yet
05-09-2002, 04:52 PM
Awesome, Kevin. I'm holding you to that 2, 4, 6 muffler sound rating you did in that other post :D

Can't wait!

A-Train
05-09-2002, 05:40 PM
Ryan you have mail




Andrew

New Blue 02
05-09-2002, 06:04 PM
any idea whether this muffler will fit a wrx sedan with a trailer hitch installed? this sounds like exactly what i want. enough so that i might consider losing or modifying the hitch.

thanks.

Irvine Subaru
05-09-2002, 06:07 PM
I dont see why it wouldnt, but don't know for sure. Ditch the hitch. Too stressful on that car.

Ryan

A-Train
05-09-2002, 07:13 PM
Ryan did you get my mail???
pinesol90@linkline.com

Irvine Subaru
05-09-2002, 08:06 PM
Checking mail here in a few minutes. If you dont hear back try scoobyparts@hotmail.com
My Irvine mail is weird sometimes.

Ryan

BOP
05-11-2002, 03:06 PM
this is pointless

skyhon
05-12-2002, 02:46 AM
Are all the hangers different on the muffler for MY02 RS or just one of it?

Irvine Subaru
05-13-2002, 12:44 PM
There is one hanger that is on the opposite side as the WRX. Thats the only one that is a big deal.

Ryan

Taff67
05-13-2002, 01:41 PM
Ryan,

When will the mufflers be back in stock?

no_rex_yet
05-13-2002, 11:29 PM
Installed my exhaust today, and it's AWESOME! Nice, subtle rumble, but no annoying droning at all. Cruising at 60-80mph, the exhaust blends in with road roar. But, as you accelerate, it provides a nice rip. What I like best about it is it complements the engine music, instead of drowning it out. The TurboXS muffler I had was loud enough to drown out the hissing of my chopped resonator box (along with all other engine noise) during acceleration. Also, the TurboXS had a much deeper sound; the bass cuts right through the body, and becomes quickly annoying. The Prodrive is almost silent in comparison.

Ok, now for the bad news. The box it came in was heavily damaged during shipping. 2 of the hangers were poking out of the box (punched through), and the muffler can had a small dent/crease on the top portion. It wasn't bad enough to return it, but annoying nonetheless. UPS adds to its crappy track record -- I have scratches all over my UK OEM rims from Vivid Racing due to their carelessness. Too bad I'm too impatient to make claims with them. :monkey: UPS

Also, the flange bumps into the rear diff protector. I'm going to have to take off the protector--hate that damn thing anyways. It always makes it such a pain to install the exhaust. Stupid dealer had it included with the car. Does anyone know if you need to get new, shorter screws to replace the 4 around the protector?

Rattler
05-14-2002, 12:46 AM
UPS and their new slogan. They almost made something "brown" out of your package. How much more appropriate could they have made a slogan.

supermarkus
05-14-2002, 01:56 AM
Originally posted by no_rex_yet


Ok, now for the bad news. The box it came in was heavily damaged during shipping. 2 of the hangers were poking out of the box (punched through), and the muffler can had a small dent/crease on the top portion. It wasn't bad enough to return it, but annoying nonetheless. UPS adds to its crappy track record -- I have scratches all over my UK OEM rims from Vivid Racing due to their carelessness. Too bad I'm too impatient to make claims with them. :monkey: UPS

Also, the flange bumps into the rear diff protector. I'm going to have to take off the protector--hate that damn thing anyways. It always makes it such a pain to install the exhaust. Stupid dealer had it included with the car. Does anyone know if you need to get new, shorter screws to replace the 4 around the protector?

My muffler came in the same condition. The receiving guy at work gave UPS the friggin 3rd degree when he signed for it. The delivery guy was so embarrassed. The can was slightly dented in one spot but it's on the top of the muffler so it's tucked out of sight.
My advice is to get the Kartboy exhaust hangers and scoot the muffler slightly to the left to keep it away from the diff protector. Mine is close but doesn't hit or rattle and I didn't have to mess with the diff protector bolts at all. All you really need are 3 of the 4 hangers, the one on the mid pipe can be a bear to install anyway.

Irvine Subaru
05-15-2002, 05:24 PM
Arghhh, UPS. The thorn in my side at times. I'll see what I can do about this.

As far as the flange hitting... We found that on all the aftermarket cat-backs and muffler sections this happens with the rear diff. protector. The Cusco hangers help a bit, but dont solve the problem. You could trim the bolts, but then you cant get the protector on and off. I just took mine off completely. I've retired my wagon from dirt use anyways.

Ryan

lark6
05-16-2002, 06:43 AM
Originally posted by lark6
Hello Ryan @ Irvine.

A lone voice in the wilderness here who'd like to know if you can source the WR Sport muffler (backbox) for the Forester. I came across two such beasts on a trip to the UK in November 2000.

Thank you,
Ed

Any updates?

Thanks.

gtguy
05-16-2002, 09:09 AM
Originally posted by no_rex_yet
Installed my exhaust today, and it's AWESOME! Nice, subtle rumble, but no annoying droning at all. Cruising at 60-80mph, the exhaust blends in with road roar. But, as you accelerate, it provides a nice rip. What I like best about it is it complements the engine music, instead of drowning it out. The TurboXS muffler I had was loud enough to drown out the hissing of my chopped resonator box (along with all other engine noise) during acceleration. Also, the TurboXS had a much deeper sound; the bass cuts right through the body, and becomes quickly annoying. The Prodrive is almost silent in comparison.

Told ya... :D

Kevin

Irvine Subaru
05-17-2002, 04:18 PM
15 more in stock. I'm out of the office today and will be taking and shipping orders on Monday.
You can order from our website. www.spimotorsports.com
Probably the easiest way to go.

Ryan

Irvine Subaru
05-21-2002, 01:50 PM
HI!!!

Tomnel
05-21-2002, 04:49 PM
Stock (http://www.tomnel.net/Store/rex/stock.mp3)


WRSport (http://www.tomnel.net/Store/rex/wrsport.mp3)

mantis
05-21-2002, 04:52 PM
Hi Ryan,
Ordered from the website today. Hope they are still in stock.

norseone
05-22-2002, 04:15 PM
I am assuming that this is just a muffler, not even a cat back, right? SO if Iwanted to make a full turbo back with this exhaust. I have to get a new midpipe, I am already planning on getting the downpipe. If you dont know then dont worry about it, if you do and it works than I will take one. Let me know


-NORSEONE

BOP
05-22-2002, 04:50 PM
this is pointless

norseone
05-22-2002, 04:54 PM
Just what I wanted to hear. YOu have this setup then?


-NORSEONE

Irvine Subaru
05-22-2002, 05:17 PM
The Prodrive unit is just a rear section. No mid-pipe included.

Ryan

p.s. I have these in stock still

BOP
05-22-2002, 10:48 PM
this is pointless

Irvine Subaru
05-28-2002, 03:43 PM
Bump!

mtb_dude
05-28-2002, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by Tomnel
Stock (http://www.tomnel.net/Store/rex/stock.mp3)


WRSport (http://www.tomnel.net/Store/rex/wrsport.mp3)


woah. That is a much throatier sound. Hmmm :D

Does anyone think that with a K&N filter and the 3/16" mod, that the Prodrive Muffler would amount to any more real gains? I'm not one to buy parts for "bling bling", but that exhaust note is sexy! :cool: And it's kinda cheap and probably more warranty friendly. I could justify it if it got me 5 HP i guess.

Coati
05-29-2002, 11:26 AM
Just out of curiousity, does anyone know the weight difference between the stock WRX muffler and the Prodrive?

jagcars26
05-29-2002, 02:41 PM
Ive had mine for about two weeks,3/16 mod ,K&N, otherwise stock drivetrain.Maybe a little increase in power,,negligable.
BUT the sound is what makes it,,, deep and throaty,not too loud,but there.Looks good from the rear,fits the slot in the bumper perfectly.You can hear the motor more to match revs.
Its Prodrive quality.My wife likes it
;) Need i say more ?? Comin from my Borla header ,Random Tech cat,Stromung mid and tail on my RS.Which sounded plain MEAN:devil: this exhaust is kinda clean mean.And yes its lighter than the stock muffler.
Rudy
Buy it youl like it:D

mtb_dude
05-29-2002, 03:34 PM
Irvine,

PM'd you.

Thanks . . .

mantis
05-30-2002, 07:05 PM
Just got mine today. Fit like a glove. Did the install myself in 30 minutes. Looks great and the sound is awesome. Well worth the bucks IMHO.

Irvine Subaru
05-30-2002, 07:35 PM
I should mention that once this batch is gone the price will be going up. I was just informed this is due to shipping fees.

Ryan

Subayai WRX
05-30-2002, 09:25 PM
Originally posted by Irvine Subaru
I should mention that once this batch is gone the price will be going up. I was just informed this is due to shipping fees.

Ryan
Ooooooh Ryan!, that was low ;) I was going to wait until I at least got my WRX back fromthe body shop, but your choice of words like price will be going up was the final straw. You probably knew that was going to push people like me over the edge :mad::lol:

Just ordered mine through the SPIMOTORSPORTS site, I'm not sure whether I should cry or be happy (although I know I will be happy when I install it). Low blow Ryan :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

brentlz
05-31-2002, 12:13 AM
Hey, no fair Ryan! This place is dangerous enough to my wallet without throwing out incendiary phrases like "batch is gone" and "price will be going up". ;) Yeah, well I'll show you...Oh wait, I just ordered one too :D

Irvine Subaru
05-31-2002, 12:59 PM
First, I'd like to thank you guys for making me smile. That was nice of you. :D

Second, just wanted to let you know what was going on. Unfortunately the cost of air freighting the first couple batches wasn't recovered by the importer so they AND Prodrive have made the decision to increase price. :( It sucks. At least I told you so you can get the better deal!

Ryan
The Robin Hood of Prodrive Mufflers?

driggity
05-31-2002, 01:02 PM
So are there still some more in stock at the old price? I was going to wait a while but I may pick one up before the price goes up.

Irvine Subaru
05-31-2002, 01:03 PM
8 left at the moment. Counting the two ordered this morning/last night.

Ryan

mtb_dude
06-03-2002, 02:44 PM
Just ordered mine today. Ryan seems cool and got back to me quickly. Still going for $350 despite the threats. :lol: ;)


Can't wait to back 'er up onto my ramps and try this puppy out!

I'm what you call a hardcore light modder. :lol:

Irvine Subaru
06-03-2002, 05:48 PM
Yeah, $350 until the remaining 6 get sold. :)
Your muffler is shipping in an hour or so when my UPS guy shows up. :D

Ryan

jblaine
06-03-2002, 07:00 PM
Originally posted by Irvine Subaru
Yeah, $350 until the remaining 6 get sold. :)
Your muffler is shipping in an hour or so when my UPS guy shows up. :DMake that "remaining 5 get sold" :)

Irvine Subaru
06-03-2002, 07:20 PM
Yes indeed. :D;)

Rebellion
06-04-2002, 09:03 AM
Ryan... how much for shipping to 28212?

GregH
06-04-2002, 10:11 AM
Can ANYONE tell me what the sound difference is between the STi and ProDrive muffler. I already know the huge price difference.

Out of the 198 posts in this thread there has not been ONE comparison between the STi and Prodrive.

Please if someone has a opinion please post it. Also if the STi was in the same price range as the ProDrive, which one would you choose?

Thanks to all,
Greg H.
Sarasota, FL

gtguy
06-04-2002, 10:49 AM
Yup. The STi isn't as deep-toned as the Prodrive, to my ears. In terms of absolute volume, they're about the same. The Prodrive might be a tad louder, but just so. The Prodrive looks light years better. Fit and finish on both are excellent, but the rolled tip on the Prodrive looks a lot nicer, less of that "import tuner" look.

The STi seems to hang lower, if clearance is a concern for you. The Prodrive doesn't hang any lower than the stock muffler, visually, though I haven't measured the before/after clearance.

I would choose the Prodrive over any axle-back muffler out there for our cars, but I value fit, finish, and lack of sonic intrusiveness.

Kevin

Irvine Subaru
06-04-2002, 02:01 PM
PM'd you freight.

Benjamin Tang
06-04-2002, 10:58 PM
ryan... i sent a pm ! :)

Benjamin Tang
06-04-2002, 11:12 PM
argh i tried ordering from the website but the shopping cart thing won't work... am i the only one wih this problem? :confused:

mtb_dude
06-05-2002, 09:44 AM
Just call Ryan up and if he's not there, he'll return your call. (Phone number is early in the thread)

Irvine Subaru
06-05-2002, 01:41 PM
Checking messages in a second. If you called, I'll call you back ASAP.

Ryan

Irvine Subaru
06-05-2002, 07:56 PM
2 left.

Bigmike
06-05-2002, 09:04 PM
Add it to the cart from the exhaust screen if you are still having a problem. When I clicked on the Prodrive muffler for a close-up view, I couldn't add it to my cart but when I went back to it in the exhaust list, I was able to add it. Ordered one last night on the website and received shipping confirmation today.

Benjamin Tang
06-05-2002, 09:54 PM
thanks for the tip! if i read this correctly i think i just ordered one of the last ones! u can ignore my voice mail and PM ryan... thanks for the help!

:D

brentlz
06-05-2002, 11:11 PM
Received & installed mine last night. Thanks much Ryan.

It is a bit louder(bassier) than I anticipated, but should prove livable...guess my ears must be getting old ;) Don't get me wrong, I do appreciate the much more manly "blub-blub, blub-blub" exhaust tone it produces over the factory muffler :D

Pretty painless(20 minute) install for me, but here's a couple observations:
-The factory bolts are a tad too short(only 80% of the nut threads engage) due to the thicker flange on the Prodrive muffler. For safety sake, I'd recommend picking up some longer bolts. I pulled some from the spare parts bin, so I'm not 100% sure on the proper size. The bolt size I used is M10x1.25(pitch) and 40mm long.

-A thin 17mm open ended wrench makes a good pry bar to help remove the exhaust hangers off of the old muffler. Insert between the ridge on the hanger rod and rubber hanger and apply some side leverage and they come off pretty easily.

-I re-used the gasket off the factory muffler. It literally fell off as the flange bolts were removed. If your car has many miles in a more humid environment, I'd consider picking up a new one from the dealer.

-No static clearance problems with my Primitive diff guard. Even though contact between the flange & diff guard can be forced by leaning on the exhaust pipe, I have yet to hear it occur over about 50 miles of bumpy Northern Arizona roads. If I do start hearing contact on/off-road, adding some stiffer hangers(kartboy or cusco) should cure it.

-Tightening the inner flange bolt & nut is pretty tight clearance wise. I found it easier to install the two bolts & nuts loosly(don't forget the gasket), tighten the nut closest to the diff 1st, and then tighten the outer nut.

Brent.

EDIT: corrected bolt size.

GregH
06-06-2002, 11:33 AM
I just ordred my ProDrive muffler last night from Ryan on the phone. Gave him my credit card number and hopefully it will ship today.

Do you feel any butt dyno improvement in HP? Sport Compat Car (SCC) did a dyno with the STI Muffler and claimed 7hp over stock. What do ya think about the ProDrive?

In addition, can you measure those bolts you took from the spare parts bin? I ask because I'll go and pick some up at a local Stainless Steel bolt shop here in town before my muffler arrives.

Thanks again for the helpful post!

Best Regards,
GregH

Irvine Subaru
06-06-2002, 12:44 PM
I am sold out of these mufflers. I will know more about the price increase later today.
Thanks guys.

Ryan

Spanky
06-06-2002, 12:58 PM
Um....Sold out before or after you shipped mine?:confused:

Thanks
Adam

GregH
06-06-2002, 01:06 PM
Ryan,

Can you get me a cost of shipping my ProDrive muffler overnight (UPS RED) would be? Give me a call or e-mail me. I left a message on your v-mail at work and there should be a note on your desk too.

Thanks,
Greg Heidt
Bradenton, FL

Puff Monkey
06-06-2002, 01:48 PM
Ryan,

Did my internet order make the cutoff?

Thanks

Dean Naib

gtguy
06-06-2002, 01:52 PM
Your butt dyno, unless calibrated to Princess and the Pea sensitivity, won't feel any performance improvement. :lol:

Oh, and I think that there's a difference between loud and deep. For instance, I didn't really hear my wife coming home with the car last night, but I did feel the resonance as she was backing into the garage. It's a very bassy throb, that accompanies the boxer engine, but the exhaust itself isn't particularly loud. Of course, my stock muffler was loud as heck, for a stock muffler.

Kevin

brentlz
06-06-2002, 09:37 PM
Yeah, I concur with you on that "loud" vs. "deep". I just couldn't find the right word & "bassie" came closest in my evening vocabulary. ;) "deep" and "feel" are appropriate words to describe this muffler...

I corrected the bolt size I used in previous posting.

GregH: If you're going with stainless steel bolts, you might as well pick up matching SS lock nuts(or lock washers & nuts). 40mm length should be plenty long to accomodate. BTW: you do know that SS bolts are weaker than high-tensile steel bolts? Sorry...that's the engineer in me speaking . :rolleyes:

Brent.

Subayai WRX
06-07-2002, 04:52 AM
Just to help you decide, I put together a compilation of before and after recordings from inside and outside of the car. There are located at this link. (http://www.weblumen.com/subaru)

GregH
06-07-2002, 08:48 AM
Subayai,

Thanks so much for posting the sound clips of the exhaust. The "Reving" one doesn't sound that much different than stock. The inside one sounds REALLY NICE! Nice and deep and "bassie". I can't wait to get mine next week.

Thanks again and great work!

Greg H.

Bigmike
06-08-2002, 01:31 AM
Wanted to say thanks to Ryan for getting it to me so quickly and thanks to Brentlz for the excellent instructions. Hardest part of putting the muffler on was figuring out where to put the jack stands. There just aren't a lot of solid places under the car! Finally put them under the frame rails at the rear which didn't give a lot of clearance but it was enough.

The muffler sounds great, it was exactly the sound I was hoping for; mellow with good bass.

-=Bigmike

GregH
06-08-2002, 11:23 AM
Originally posted by Bigmike
....Hardest part of putting the muffler on was figuring out where to put the jack stands. There just aren't a lot of solid places under the car! Finally put them under the frame rails at the rear which didn't give a lot of clearance but it was enough.-=Bigmike

That's a good quesiton. Anyone have pics or can anyone give a detailed location of where to put the jack stand and if using a floor jack where to place it as to not bend or damage anything while lifiting it up?

Thanks to all!

Bigmike
06-08-2002, 12:04 PM
Originally posted by GregH


That's a good quesiton. Anyone have pics or can anyone give a detailed location of where to put the jack stand and if using a floor jack where to place it as to not bend or damage anything while lifiting it up?

Thanks to all!

I used the rear diff as my lifting point for the floor jack. The issue is finding a good plack to put the jack stands. The only place that looked safe to me was the frame rails by the rear bumper. Only issue is that on the right hand side (opposite the exhaust side) there is very little clearance for a jack stand and it's not a flat service because of a tow hook mounted there. I ended up putting the jack stand on the bolts/plate where the tow hook mounts to the frame. There's no way I was getting under the car with it supported by the floor jack only since I'm fairly large and the car would have crushed my delicate body without a lift :)

Irvine Subaru
06-10-2002, 02:57 PM
If you didnt make it before I ran out I've already let you know.

The new price on the mufflers is going to be $380.00 and I will have more in stock first part of July.

GregH
06-11-2002, 12:56 PM
Hey Ryan,

Can you please e-mail me my tracking number to: mis@att.net.

The name if Greg Heidt and the address shipped to is Sarasota, FL.

Thanks

Irvine Subaru
06-11-2002, 02:18 PM
Greg,

Done.

Ryan

mtb_dude
06-12-2002, 09:31 PM
Originally posted by brentlz
The bolt size I used is M10x1.25(pitch) and 40mm long.

Brent.

EDIT: corrected bolt size.


Are you sure that's a 1.25 pitch,. I can't seem to find that bolt anywhere around here or on the internet. 1.5 is in a few places. Anyone know a good place to get some stainless steel (preferably) M10x1.25x40 hex bolts?

Just got my prodrive and it was a little out of shape ala UPS or prodrive, but very minimal. It's on the top of the cannister and will never see the light of day :) Looks awesome though. Just not in my living room :D

You should always have at least two threads past the nut. In fact, that is a rule in the Midwest Mini-Baja competition.

Puff Monkey
06-13-2002, 07:44 AM
I went with matching stainless nuts and lock washers to go with the 10x40mm stainless bolts from my local hardware store. I didn't want to mix the old non-stainless nuts with the new stainless bolts.

By the way, 10x40 is perfect and I did not have any problems with the rear diff protector on my wagon. It's a close fit but it does clear the muffler flange and doesn't rattle at all.

Dean

GregH
06-13-2002, 08:18 AM
Puff Monkey,

You didn't say how you like the sound, and looks of it. Please let us know your personal opinion. =)

Also thank you for letting us know about the fitment with the rear diff. protector. I'm thinking of getting one because I take my car up to Ocala Natl. Forest onece and a while to go hiking, camping, and mountian biking. There are some pretty tight and rocking trails to get to some of the places. So the diff protector would be a good investment I think.

Thanks and enjoy!

mtb_dude
06-13-2002, 10:04 AM
Originally posted by Puff Monkey
I didn't want to mix the old non-stainless nuts with the new stainless bolts.



Hmm, good point. Did you use 1.25 pitch? I cannot believe that there's no hardware store around me with 1.25 pitch hex bolts and nuts. This is lunacy!

GregH
06-13-2002, 10:13 AM
I had the same problem - I couldn't find 1.25 pitch so I'm going to use 1.5 pitch instead. the thread pitch really doesn't matter it does not add to the strength of the bolt, however, if you are gong to use the stock nuts, they probably only fit 1.25. I also bought new stainless self-locking nuts. I these things are going to be difficult to thread on, but once they are on, they are not coming off by themselves! So I should be set. I'll take pics and post when it's installed. Exhaust should be here today - UPS Tracking states it's out for delivery =)

Puff Monkey
06-13-2002, 10:27 AM
The sound is perfect. Inside the cabin, it has a very deep rumble at idle but isn't too loud to be annoying and doesn't reverberate which I thought may be a problem with a wagon. Outside, it isn’t loud either. At speed, the volume isn’t much louder then stock but the sound is very similar to the WRX commercial I use to see all of the time although the tone may be just a bit deeper. It pasted the wife test with flying colors. She said it sounds like a scarab speedboat at idle. I’m very pleased. This is the only engine/exhaust mod that I have at this time.

I don’t know what the pitch of the bolts is; I just grabbed what the store had. It was a rather course threading. I think that getting lock washers is important to prevent the nuts from backing off.

Dean

mtb_dude
06-13-2002, 11:09 AM
Well, my area barely even knows what the word metric means, so I decided to internet it instead. Here's a free plug for www.boltdepot.com

They have the stainless steel hex bolts, lock washers, and nuts. But only in the 1.50 pitch. I also ordered lock nuts, but I'm not sure if I'm gonna use them or not. I'm worried the nylon insert might melt. I think lock washer and nut is fine.

Let's see if "next day air" means I'll acutally get them by tomorrow. :rolleyes:


And a big ":monkey: you" to my local hardware shops for not even attemping to stock metric. :)

GregH
06-13-2002, 04:27 PM
Originally posted by mtb_dude
....I also ordered lock nuts, but I'm not sure if I'm gonna use them or not. I'm worried the nylon insert might melt. I think lock washer and nut is fine....

Great thought. I just returned my lock nuts in lieu of lock washers and nuts. Thanks for the thought of the nylon melting. I'm sure it would. Owners that have EGT Gauges will tell you that the exhaust gas is around 1,400 degrees. I would say the pipe would get hot enough to melt it for sure.

Thanks again mtb_dude!

mtb_dude
06-14-2002, 10:27 AM
Damn! Bolts were delivered to my door at 9:45 am this morning. Now if work could just fly by and the darn rain (just 15 miles from the US Open) would stop, I might be a happy_dude tonight.

GregH
06-14-2002, 11:49 AM
Well, just got it and installed it last night in about 40 minutes (using the standard spare tire jack what a PITA, and a jackstand!). All my tools are at my X's house while I'm waiting for my new house to be built. Otherwise it was very easy and with my floor jack would of taken only 20 min. The bolts I bought worked fine! Thanks Brent!!

Also thanks Ryan for the quick shipping and tracking number. The box was badly damaged on one end but all was okay inside! :) .

The sound - well, it is VERY Deep. It is a lot bassier than I expected, but over time I guess I can live with it. Maybe I'm just getting old, 36. I'm not sure what it sounds like. It is very unique. But it sure doesn't sound like a Scarab Boat in my opinon.

Fitment is excellent! Very easy to install.

Thanks to everyone in the post for the help and suggestions!

mtb_dude
06-15-2002, 01:43 PM
Just did mine this morning (finally). It is truly a deeper tone and sounds awesome. It's not enough to draw attention to you, but enough to raise an eyebrow if you're close enough. It never gets too loud and, in my opinion, should come stock with the car. It's probably at the limit of street legal in term of volume. I took a nice drive around the foggy wet north shore of Long Island and felt like I was in the UK with the throaty, boxer engine performing the music. :)
It's easier to match revs too as others have said, and gets you more in tune with the engine. Now I can hear the subtle whine of the turbo in front and the awesome pulsing sound of the boxer in the back.

MackDaddy
06-16-2002, 11:36 AM
Do you still have the Prodrive axleback available? Please let me know whan you get a chance. jmackenz@insight.rr.com or post here.

My Stromung is getting a bit too loud for my tastes under certain conditions (i.e. - with the ac on, in the rain.) For the most part I love it, but after reading GTGuy's assesment on sound level, this is really what I want. That, and it looks fantastic.

Thanks,
Jim Mackenzie

jagcars26
06-16-2002, 01:27 PM
Jim,,,youl like this,,believe me.Ive done the borla,high flow cat,stromung set up on my RS.It's a damn wicked sound,,but in the long run IMHO, this is the one to have on the WRX.Subtle and deep,very bassy.
Try it youl like it,
Rudy:D

MackDaddy
06-16-2002, 06:34 PM
Originally posted by jagcars26
Jim,,,youl like this,,believe me.Ive done the borla,high flow cat,stromung set up on my RS.It's a damn wicked sound,,but in the long run IMHO, this is the one to have on the WRX.Subtle and deep,very bassy.
Try it youl like it,
Rudy:D

I'm hoping the Prodrive is still available for the $$$ offered in the begining of the thread. I'm not spending +500 on an axleback again. Not that the Stromung wasn't worth it, it truely is. After driving around today (73 deg. and sunny,) I really do like it 95% of the time.

Jim

Irvine Subaru
06-17-2002, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by Irvine Subaru
If you didnt make it before I ran out I've already let you know.

The new price on the mufflers is going to be $380.00 and I will have more in stock first part of July.

This is the new price. They are already on the way to me. Probably another four or so days. Arriving earlier than previously thought.

Ryan

jblaine
06-30-2002, 08:58 AM
FWIW, on my bathroom scale:

Stock 02WRX muffler: 20.5 lbs
Prodrive WRS muffler: 13.5 lbs

Irvine Subaru
07-01-2002, 01:22 PM
7lbs lighter? Thats pretty good.

Ryan

MackDaddy
07-01-2002, 09:01 PM
Did you get any more in stock yet? :D

TIA - Jim

Irvine Subaru
07-02-2002, 03:38 PM
Not yet. Soon though. Soon. ;)

Ryan

Irvine Subaru
07-10-2002, 11:35 AM
Good news,

I just got more of these in stock. Price is $380.00 as stated before, plus shipping.

Ryan
949-452-0100 x107
ryan@irvinesubaru.com

gixxerg
07-11-2002, 08:50 AM
Ryan,

I'm Interested, I also emailed you. Let me know if you can ship 'em out right away.

Thanks.

Gary.

Irvine Subaru
07-11-2002, 12:43 PM
Gary,

e-mailed you back.

Ryan

bcristea
07-12-2002, 08:20 AM
Originally posted by omahasubaru
Let me know when your next stock of these come back in. I've always liked them, but didn't figure I'd get much out of the 2.5" size, but since then cars have changed and so have my plans... So now I'm interested. Will any GC8/GF8 fitment ones be coming in your next shipment?

Check these nice pics of the exhaust on the best Subaru ever made in my opinion :D (I know you 22B lovers won't agree with me).

http://upload.turbosport.co.uk/gallery3/200232804750365363.jpg

http://upload.turbosport.co.uk/gallery3/200232804750447545.jpg

Thanks - Jon

bcristea
07-12-2002, 08:21 AM
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Irvine Subaru
07-12-2002, 10:59 AM
That first picture is a really good angle. You really get a good feel for the size and shape of the tip. Thank you for posting that. Car looks great!

Ryan