I know this issue already has a million threads but I couldn't find any good pics of how to make the tt work with the factory alarm and keyless entry when counting down. So I thought it might be helpful for someone who's still confused (like I was) after reading the directions to post some pics.

For step by step instructions I followed Swankmonkey's (http://wrx.swankmonkey.com/turbotimer/) directions.

First shot is of the alarm module. Cut the grey wire and put a male connector on the end coming from the plug then tape up the other loose end.

Next locate the keyless entry module and cut the dark green with black stripe wire. Crimp a male connector on the end coming from the plug and tape the other loose end.

Nicely done! Glad my instructions could help ;)

edit: i added a link back here from the install.

Unplug the blue wire from the turbo timer's plug and tape it up.

Plug it all up and have fun!:lol:

Third step got deleted by mistake :o

On the side of the tt harness that goes between the ignition plug, splice into the blue accessory wire with a connector that has two wires on it. Put female connectors on the ends of the wires and run one to the alarm module's grey wire and the other to the keyless entry module's dark green/black stripe wire.

Help me out please. I dont get it. Why do you unplug the speed sensor wire? I must be missing something. Help me out.

i installed mine too..but i never touched the alarm module..why do u have to cut a wire in the alarm module?

Can you lock it and it still run?

Originally posted by nekard
Can you lock it and it still run?

yes

No no...Can you lock it and it still run if you dont do this modification? And why do you unplug to speed sensor wire?

You cut the speed sensor wire to fool the car into thinking that it is not running so that you can arm the alarm (while it is still running).

I cut the speed wire and then I cant use the HKS G-tech part of the TT, right? I dont want to loose any of the capibilities of the TT but I will if I cut the speed wire.

that's an interesting point - would like to hear result of this as I was thinking about HKS Type I myself...

I have had a HKS TT type 1 for a few months now. I left the blue wire in place and everything works fine. I just cut the greys for the keyless entry.

possibly a really dumb question, but does that mean you no longer have keyless entry?

Can anyone please tell me exactly what the grey wire is from the center counsol module and the dark green with black stripe on the other module? I cut both these wires and left them alone. Now my "Security" light flashes all of the time. What do I need to do to stop this?

I tapped off the blue accessory and now I cant lock the car with the TT counting down. I ran the 2 wires on to the modules. Did this right? Let me know what else I should try.

Green/Black wire is keyless entry, grey involves the starter kill.

I kept my speed wire connected, but i put a relay between the center grey wire, using the ignition as a control and my starter kill works when the car is armed. Keyless entry works fine as well. i don't have any pictures yet, but i will get them sometime soon.


Originally posted by nekard
Can anyone please tell me exactly what the grey wire is from the center counsol module and the dark green with black stripe on the other module? I cut both these wires and left them alone. Now my "Security" light flashes all of the time. What do I need to do to stop this?

Open the driver door and hold the unlock button for a few seconds, you're in valet mode right now when the security light flashes

Please show the relay system that you rigged up. I dont get relays all that much but do have a couple around here. Please do an exact write up what you did with the 2 modules and email it to me or post it. This is very bothersome that this isnt working right yet. My car just wont lock while it is running and this totally defeats the purpose of the thing. Let me know what to do.

I may not get pictures for a while, so i'll write what i did..
first i should mention i have the factory upgraded alarm, NOT an aftermarket.

i cut the green/black wire and just taped both ends


the 85 terminal went to ground, just scraped some paint and used a ring terminal on a mounting bolt

the 86 terminal went to the green wire in my hks turbo timer harness (it's the ignition wire)

the 87a terminal and the 30 terminal to the ends of the grey wire. doesn't matter which one goes where because you're just opening and closing the circuit. what i did with the relay is just keeping the grey wires together when the key is removed, and separate when the key is in the cylinder.

so when you arm the alarm and a thief brakes in and tries to start the car, even though the key is in, 1 - the grey wires are connected due to the relay, 2 - the alarm is armed which enables the starter kill function. The starter kill function will only work when the grey wires are connected - i'm pretty sure.


i'm pretty sure the explanation is right. But bottom line the relay separates the grey wires while the car is still running so that you can arm the alarm, and then when the car shuts off it connects the grey wires as if you did not change anything. Cutting the green/black wire just lets you lock and unlock your doors at any time.


If anyone finds something wrong in my explanation, please post. i've tested this and have the following results:

car off, alarm armed, attempt to start car with key - car doesn't start
car door open, press the arm button - alarm chirps 3 times
car is timing down, press the arm button, car shuts off - doors remained locked

i couldn't think of any other tests to try since these were the ones people seemed to have problems integrating


edit: another test was staying in the car, tt is counting down, arm the alarm, open door - alarm goes off

thanks for the writeup tdxflex!!!

Hi everybody,
Sorry it took so long to reply...I haven't visited the board in awhile. It's also been some time since this install so I might not have all the answers to your questions.

First of all, these directions assume that the HKS wiring harness (part # 4103-RF002) is used as well as the factory alarm and keyless entry module. If you have an aftermarket alarm with keyless entry these steps are useless.

nekard - I think I know why this post seems confusing to you. These steps are performed IN ADDITION to the installation instructions that came with the turbo timer. ProjectWRX (http://www.projectwrx.com/frame.htm) has a good walkthrough in the "Mods/Utilities" section. It just so happens that some of the wires in the instructions and in this modification share the same color. You still need to connect the speed sensor wire and rpm signal wire to the appropriate ecu wire. For a great ecu wiring chart go here ECU wiring diagram (http://www.ravensblade-impreza.com/modifications/misc/wiring/wrxpin.html) You'll also need to tap into the parking brake wire per the instructions, you have to look for this one under the carpet when you remove the center console. After all this THEN you perform the steps in this post. If done properly you should be able to use the factory keyless entry and activate the factory alarm while the timer is counting down and the engine is running. Also, all the functions of the turbo timer like 0-60, rpm, and speed display will work.

Hope this helps and I'll keep checking this thread if you have anymore questions.

ive read this thread a good 3 times very carefully and i still do not understand how you trigger the alarm system to be able to set the alarm while the car is still running due to the turbo timer? and if u have to cut a wire, will it effect ur security if you want to later on add an aftermarket security system? please help..

The install portion I didnt have a problem with at all. It was the whole alarm situation. I have spliced into the blue accesorry wire and run it to my alarm module and start kill module and I still cant lock the car while it is counting down time with the TT.

Perhaps if somebody could post some additional pics... I am going to be ordering one shortly, so I'm sure once I get under the dash, it will become more apparent...

But here's an interesting note that anybody "in the know" could possibly chime in on.

I was reading the site, and they listed this as the last note (from hksusa.com)


After installation

(1) Reinstall all removed parts back to their original positions.

(2) Reconnect the negative cable onto the battery.

Note: If the vehicles battery is replaced or jumped, unplug the Turbo Timer 3-pin harness to avoid any possible voltage spikes which may damage the Turbo Timer. Reattach the Turbo Timer 3-pin harness after the battery is reconnected.

That concerns me a little bit! I don't drain my battery often, but I know inevitably I'm going to need a jump someday. So that means I need to take a part the dash before I can get a jump or else I might damage my TT??!?!?

any help is greatly appreciated!

ive read this thread a good 3 times very carefully and i still do not understand how you trigger the alarm system to be able to set the alarm while the car is still running due to the turbo timer? and if u have to cut a wire, will it effect ur security if you want to later on add an aftermarket security system? please help..

nekard - Do you mean the keyless entry module under the dash when you wrote "start kill module"? Also, did you unplug or cut the blue/red wire on the tt's plug? The 3rd and 4th steps in my post got mixed up but in the 3rd picture(which is the 4th step) is the wire I'm talking about.

creaquack - you'll be able to set the alarm while the tt is counting because of the wire you cut and redirect on the alarm module. The keyless entry, with this mod, will also be able to lock the doors while the tt counts down. This mod shouldn't affect an aftermarket alarm because the new alarm is completely independent of the factory alarm. I'm pretty sure you could do away with the factory alarm module when installing an aftermarket one. In that case you only have the keyless entry module to worry about.

which wire do i cut? and where is it located? everything but the alarm part..i was pretty successful in installing. please do help by giving directions.

On the alarm module cut the grey wire. Looking at the first pic in the post it's the wire with the blue connector circled in red. The grey wire from the module has a male crimp connector and the dark blue wire(this is one of the wires coming from where you spliced into the blue wire from the harness) has a female crimp connector.

The alarm module is located underneath the center console next to the handbrake.

Here is a rough sketch of what you should end up with. Only the wires that need to be manipulated are colored.

ok, either im blind, or the alarm moduale and keyless entry moduale are located in different places on every car, anyone ese find this, if so wat are some spots where i might find it.:confused:

I thought Subaru had designated mounting spots for the modules. Maybe your security upgrade kit was installed by the dealer and they chose different mounting locations. I would give them a call and ask where to look.

One thing of note - I met up with somebody this weekend who had HKS Type I installed with "upgraded" alarm/keyless entry. He said you have to be kinda careful when arming because if you have a more "rumbly" engine or exhaust, the car might prematurely cut itself off because it senses the vibration and thinks it's a break in!!

Hi,

The instructions are nice and clear.... the pictures are great...

I follwed it all to the letter.

I even took it all apart again tonight and did it all from scratch again... just to make sure I didn't miss anything.....

It is doing all the things it is supposed to do..

When I set the alarm.... I am noticing two things:


1) The Lights don't flash anymore ... just the horn honks.

2) The motion sensor doesn't detect.

I am guessing that the alarm is not setting... it is just locking the doors.

Thoughts? Suggestions?

Anyone? Help? Please?

Argh!!!!!

GADGTGUY - Sounds like your alarm is in Valet Mode. I just read in the Subaru Security pamphlet that in Valet Mode the parking lights won't flash during arming and disarming of the alarm.

Here is how to get out of Valet Mode:
1. Open driver's door
2. Depress and hold UNLOCK/DISARM button for more than 2 seconds
3. Dash-mounted Status Indicator light will flash once every two seconds (I guess they mean when armed)

About your second problem, do you really have motion sensors or did you mean vibration sensor? If it's the latter, you can adjust the impact sensitivity on the alarm module.

Thanks for the reply... I am going to try the valet thing.

I meant vibration sensor...

I can go to the car and rock the thing back and forth and the alarm does not go off.

I even went as far as tapping on the sensor itself... nada.


I really don't think the alarm is setting....

Well you were right...

I was in Valet mode.


I followed your precedure and everything works great now.


I push the remote button.... Car Counts Down.... Alarm Arms... Lights Flash....and when I rock the car... alarm goes off.


So I guess all is well.

Thank you very much for helping out!

Much Appreciated!


Derek

Welp, thanks to a happy camper, I'll be ordering an HKS Type 1 next week now!!!

Any tips/recommendations from ya, GADGTGUY??? I guess I'll be sure to order the wiring harness (duh!)

Any other tricks/snags I should be aware of? (Although it looks nicely layed out in the instructions -- are you also using all of the other functions as well??)

much thanks - Kyle

Glad to hear that the problem is solved! :)

I've used the other features a couple of times...the 0-60 and 1/4 mile are pretty cool. The volt meter is also informative but the rpm and speed aren't too accurate compared to the factory gauges. I've calibrated the timer several times but the rpm is always off by 200. Or maybe it's the gauges which are wrong since the timer is getting its info straight from the ecu...I don't know:confused:

Anyway, the stopwatch function is also fun when ordering from a drivethru window :lol:

Hahah - timing the wendy's chick is cool so you can say, "You know... that was ok... but your best ET has been 1:45.03, and you just barely made 1:48.53"

Actually, I was mostly interested in the volt meter functions since there is NO indication in our cars about voltage. I figure the 0-60 and 1/4 mile are kinda gimmicky but fun nonetheless.

I will probably be asking for help from somebody since I'm kinda dumb when it comes to "which wire to cut" but from these instructions, I can kinda play it out in my head, so maybe I'll get lucky and "cut the right wire..." (I would've NEVER made it as a bomb technician...)

Kyle

Welp, I just ordered it a few minutes ago! Should be here sometime early next week!!

wheres the alarm module located? anyone?? need help now thanks!

Joe-

Originally posted by DuB ReX
wheres the alarm module located? anyone?? need help now thanks!

Joe-

The alarm module is located in the center console, next to the emergency brake. Can't miss it. That's where you'll find the grey wire to cut/splice. Hope all is well with turbo timer land.


Dave:cool:

Do you have any installed picture for GC8 ? or any suggestion where to install it? Does it fit GC8 cup holder?

I'll order Black one and now looking for online shops but can not find an online market

I'm not sure myself on how to install it for the GC8, but i stumbled upon this link that might help you out.

http://forums.i-club.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=256752&highlight=turbo+timer+install

Hope that helps out.

Dave

Almost done, I have the HKS Harness plugged in, and I have the TT grounded. I have three wires left. The grey, brown, and blue. I also have the factory security upgrade on my WRX. There has been so much contoversy on what do hook in and what not to. Please someone who has the security upgrade, and TT harness tell me what to do with these last three wires.
Thanks

Dan

Someone hooked me up with this..

http://forums.i-club.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=257716

Dan

BlueRidgeRS,

Hi. This information is really helpful. Just have one more question though.

So you said that you had to remove the blue/red wire coming from the TurboTimer. (the one that is usually attached to the plastic plug along with the green and red wires)

Why do you do this? Is that wire usually used for something else?

Thanks

That blue/red wire is the accessory wire from the tt. If you leave it connected, you won't be able to remotely arm the alarm or lock the doors while the timer is counting down. I believe that by unplugging it, the keyless entry and alarm modules think that the ignition switch is in the "OFF" position.

I have the best fix ever for all the TT problems mine works fine, and i'm almost finished. I will be writing up a how to on this for my new WRX site, but in the mean time if you are interested in how I do it....PM me :)

Thanks, BlueRidgeRS. I'll probably be installing mine in the next week or so!

Originally posted by tdxflex
i'm pretty sure the explanation is right. But bottom line the relay separates the grey wires while the car is still running so that you can arm the alarm, and then when the car shuts off it connects the grey wires as if you did not change anything. Cutting the green/black wire just lets you lock and unlock your doors at any time.


car off, alarm armed, attempt to start car with key - car doesn't start
car door open, press the arm button - alarm chirps 3 times
car is timing down, press the arm button, car shuts off - doors remained locked



Okay,

put in a relay in per your post -- thanks for the idea! I have a blitz TT with a HKS harness. Everything was installed according to this post.

Here are my results:
TT on, alarm remote pressed -- doors lock but once TT counts down and I open doors alarm doen't go off. Normally security light flashes in dash when armed, but when the TT is on the Security will not flash.

TT off, alarm remote pressed -- works just like the factory unit -- starter kill works, doors lock.

If I snip the grey wires and get rid of the relay, alarm arms with TT on but no starter kill ability is there.

I have NOT removed the blue and red wire, do you think that is the source of my alarm issues?

This is driving me nuts.

Originally posted by buymeasti


Okay,

put in a relay in per your post -- thanks for the idea! I have a blitz TT with a HKS harness. Everything was installed according to this post.

Here are my results:
TT on, alarm remote pressed -- doors lock but once TT counts down and I open doors alarm doen't go off. Normally security light flashes in dash when armed, but when the TT is on the Security will not flash.

TT off, alarm remote pressed -- works just like the factory unit -- starter kill works, doors lock.

If I snip the grey wires and get rid of the relay, alarm arms with TT on but no starter kill ability is there.

I have NOT removed the blue and red wire, do you think that is the source of my alarm issues?

This is driving me nuts.

I haven't tried that test on my car, hold on a sec..

edit: just did an automatic countdown for 30 seconds, while timing down armed the car, then manually unlocked the door from the inside and opened, alarm came on in 1-2 seconds. all of my wires are connected and i have the relay for the grey wires. what do the blue and red wires do on the blitz?

Not sure what the ble/red does, but it says to remove it on the HKS harness on this post (which is what I am using)....I'll try to find out in the manual.

edit: Do you have your blue/red wire on the harness disconnected?

it's the speed sensor wire, but your using a blitz tt, right? it won't be applicable to you.

my speed, rpm, ebrake wires are all connected, and i have the relay for the grey wires controlled by the ignition wire

I may know what the problem is -- my relay is swtiched by the "accessory wire" -- the bottom right wire on the blue ignition clip.

Does your starter kill enable once the car shuts of if you arm the alarm when the TT is counting down?

yeah, it enables when the tt is finished counting down. if you're using the relay, tap off the green wire in the HKS harness, that's the ignition wire and you should be all set.

the way you have it, when the key's not in the cylinder, the accessory wire goes to 0V, but the ignition is still at 12V when the tt is counting down. so if it's at 0V, the relay will connect the grey wires. the car is still on and if you have the starter kill enabled, there's going to be confusion in the alarm brain which is probably why the alarm isn't arming while the car is on, but when it shuts off, then there's no more conflicting signal to the brain with the car on and starter kill. does that make sense?

Makes sense, thats what I thought and why i was so confused. So I figured it out tonight after only 2 hours of poking around with a meter:

Splicing the accessory wire (the green one) gives voltage whenever the TT is on. If you supply the relay voltage it separates the connection between the two grey ends -- hence killing the starter capability.

Now when you take the key out of the cylinder the accessory wire still has power because the TT is still counting down. I arm the alarm when the TT is counting down, the doors lock but the alarm does NOT arm -- if I manually open the doors no siren. This is because my relay is getting voltage from the accessory and keeping hte grey wires split.

But once the TT is finished counting, the accessory wire has no voltage. So now I have to hit the alarm remote button again to reset the alarm and get the security light in the dash. I dont know why it doesnt automatically arm it, but on my car it didn't.

------------------------

*I take no resposibilty for these instructions -- I am only sharing what worked for me*

So here is the only way I could find out how to wire the TT to have the alarm arm when there is no key in the cylinder (even when the TT is counting).

1. Follow the directions of this post including the clever relay tdxflex showed us (which you can buy from any auto store) EXCEPT for splicing the green accessory wire on your HKS harness.

2. Also, keep the door lock green/black separated -- tape off the ends

3. The wire you want only gives voltage when the key is physically in the cylinder unlike the "accessory" which has power even when the TT is counting down Why? because when your relay gets voltage it separates the grey wire = alarm starter kill is disabled. This wire is WHITE and RED on the black box that chimes when the key is in the ignition (use your ear to find it). Splice this wire and connect it to the 12 volt input on the relay. Note: this is EXTREMELY hard to splice due to no extra wire.

The end result:
No TT: alarms works like stock
TT counting down without key in cylinder: alarm works like stock
Key in cylinder: Alarm will not arm.


What do you guys think?

few questions...

I have a type-0 TT, will this work?

also, I did NOT connect my brown wire to the ECU, and it still counts down and shuts off the car. Why do I NEED this brown wire?
I'm really hesitant to splice into the ECU wiring :o

TTT

what does the type 0 do besides countdown and voltage? did you check any online manuals? the type 1 needs more connections than the type 0, but i don't know what they are. you probably won't need to do any splicing into the ECU because the type 0 doesn't do peak/hold speed or the rpm warning.

what i want to know is what wires are acually being cut?

what is the dark green wire supposed to do?

what is the grey wire supposed to do?

i was wondering if i cut my arm wire, and my door lock wire
will it work?

i have a dealer alarm... which is automate.

and its all different... it kinda pisses me off.. cuz now its crazy, it dont even reconize my remote.

gRRrR... someone help...

I feel your pain, took me 8 hours of playing to get my timer to work the way i wanted it to with the factory alarm.

One by one:
Green Wire
This wire tells the car not to lock the doors when the car is running.
Cut it = ablility to lock doors while car is running
Leave it intact = not able to lock doors with ignition running
Splice to green accessory wire = not able to lock whil TT is counting down (because engine is running...)

Grey Wire
This lets the alarm arm only if the the engine is not running AND controls the ignition kill.
Cut it = With the TT counting down, doors will lock but alarm will not arm (proof -- the security light wont flash and opening the doors wont set it off)
Once the TT is done counting and the engine turns off, arming the alarm again will arm the factory alarm. But since the wires are cut you lose ignition kill.

So read my post above, but you basically want the grey wires to touch when the key is out of the ignition (even if you take the key out and let the TT count down), but be separated when the key is in the ignition. The only way to do this is by a relay. This scenario will allow you to arm the alarm with the TT on and NOT lose any functionality.

Read my post and if you are still confused read it again:lol:

Seriously tho feel free to PM me if you have any questions...

Originally posted by buymeasti
I feel your pain, took me 8 hours of playing to get my timer to work the way i wanted it to with the factory alarm.

One by one:
Green Wire
This wire tells the car not to lock the doors when the car is running.
Cut it = ablility to lock doors while car is running
Leave it intact = not able to lock doors with ignition running
Splice to green accessory wire = not able to lock whil TT is counting down (because engine is running...)

Grey Wire
This lets the alarm arm only if the the engine is not running AND controls the ignition kill.
Cut it = With the TT counting down, doors will lock but alarm will not arm (proof -- the security light wont flash and opening the doors wont set it off)
Once the TT is done counting and the engine turns off, arming the alarm again will arm the factory alarm. But since the wires are cut you lose ignition kill.

So read my post above, but you basically want the grey wires to touch when the key is out of the ignition (even if you take the key out and let the TT count down), but be separated when the key is in the ignition. The only way to do this is by a relay. This scenario will allow you to arm the alarm with the TT on and NOT lose any functionality.

Read my post and if you are still confused read it again:lol:

Seriously tho feel free to PM me if you have any questions...

summed up the multi-page thread right here :cool:

still patiently waiting for mine, but that summary looks absolutely wonderful - thank you!

thanks buymeasti

i cut the green one already. i will try to see if it will work if i cut the arm wire tomorrow. btw : right now, ever since i swapped batteries. my remote dont work anymore. i tried to reset it. still dotn work. i dunno what it is. i tried the whole 10 on lock thing, i dunno. i guess ill let the dealer deal with it. but if anyone know what im talking about. please PM me or something.

thanks guys.


Originally posted by buymeasti
I feel your pain, took me 8 hours of playing to get my timer to work the way i wanted it to with the factory alarm.

One by one:
Green Wire
This wire tells the car not to lock the doors when the car is running.
Cut it = ablility to lock doors while car is running
Leave it intact = not able to lock doors with ignition running
Splice to green accessory wire = not able to lock whil TT is counting down (because engine is running...)

Grey Wire
This lets the alarm arm only if the the engine is not running AND controls the ignition kill.
Cut it = With the TT counting down, doors will lock but alarm will not arm (proof -- the security light wont flash and opening the doors wont set it off)
Once the TT is done counting and the engine turns off, arming the alarm again will arm the factory alarm. But since the wires are cut you lose ignition kill.

So read my post above, but you basically want the grey wires to touch when the key is out of the ignition (even if you take the key out and let the TT count down), but be separated when the key is in the ignition. The only way to do this is by a relay. This scenario will allow you to arm the alarm with the TT on and NOT lose any functionality.

Read my post and if you are still confused read it again:lol:

Seriously tho feel free to PM me if you have any questions...

Originally posted by atomicapples

i cut the green one already. i will try to see if it will work if i cut the arm wire tomorrow.


Just cutting the alarm (grey) = no starter kill even when armed and not able to arm with TT running. Most ppl put the alarm to auto arm (valet) so that it arms after the TT finishes and the engine shuts down (since you cannot arm it with the ignition on with the grey cut), but do some tests and you'll see that you can start the car with the alarm armed if you dont use a relay and only cut the grey. Just wanted to make sure we are all clear on that...cause it sounds like you're about to do that

One last thing on the 2003s the ebrake wire is light green not pink . THe wire is connceted to the back of the ebrake by a black plastic plug. It is not as easy to find as some make it seem, my wire was tucked under the carpet....But its basically the only wire that I saw that wasnt bundled with anything else. Just look for the lonely wire...

Originally posted by buymeasti


Just cutting the alarm (grey) = no starter kill even when armed and not able to arm with TT running. Most ppl put the alarm to auto arm (valet) so that it arms after the TT finishes and the engine shuts down (since you cannot arm it with the ignition on with the grey cut), but do some tests and you'll see that you can start the car with the alarm armed if you dont use a relay and only cut the grey. Just wanted to make sure we are all clear on that...cause it sounds like you're about to do that

One last thing on the 2003s the ebrake wire is light green not purple . THe wire is connceted to the back of the ebrake by a black plastic plug. It is not as easy to find as some make it seem, my wire was tucked under the carpet....But its basically the only wire that I saw that wasnt bundled with anything else. Just look for the lonely wire...

the ebrake wire on my car was pink.

Check out what ^ he said --

2003 = LIGHT GREEN
2002 = PINK

Originally posted by CirrusWRX
Check out what ^ he said --

2003 = LIGHT GREEN
2002 = PINK

lol
sorry, im all confused...

Ahhh - I didn't see he edited his post!! LOL

atomicapples -- sorry, it was my mistake, I wrote the post at 130AM, the og post was purple but I meant to say pink.

There's no fooling you guys -- too sharp for me! I went ahead and edited, but to make a long story short:

Ebrake wire colors:
2002 - pink
2003 - light green

Hi all - after a few long months of waiting, I finally have my HKS Type I installed, and I also used the heavenly wiring harness. Just went to test it out, and I have everything working BUT the TT function!?

I was trying to figure out where my problems might be, and I'm beginning to lose sanity, so any help would be greatly appreciated (even asking me more questions!)

So here's the rundown:

I have:
HKS Type 1 TT
HKS Subaru Wiring Harness
Subaru Upgrade "Factory" Alarm System

Just to test it out, I figured I wouldn't bother with all the relay stuff and whatnot, and I have not yet been able to make the TT begin to count down. I've tried all the different settings, including the standard T1 and T2 "1:00 and 3:00" options, all to no avail. When I turn off the key, the car seems to hesitate to shutdown for an instant, but the TT turns off immediately, and then the engine shuts down like normal.

I have tried it with the parking brake up and down, with no difference. I am pretty sure I have a good connection to the e-brake, pink wire (had to pull up the carpet on passenger side) so I think that's working. All of the other functions, speed, RPM, etc... all work fine, and I used the same taps for the speed/rpm that I did for the e-brake, but the darn thing just shuts down.

Now I realize I cannot lock or arm the car with this configuration, and I had planned to do the necessary modifications to do so, but I wanted to make sure the TT would count down normally before I tried anything, and since that hasn't happened, I didn't want to throw more into the mix than necessary. But here is my overall, super-question:
Because I have the upgraded alarm, or whatever it's called, do I still need FURTHER modifications in order to get the TT to count down, even though I'm not trying to arm/lock the car? Or is it just a matter of a bad contact to the e-brake or something similar?

Well, my brain is kinda hurtin at the moment and my fingers a little numb, but here's to hoping for some suggestions! Thanks much all.

the best way to trouble shoot this problem is to make sure all the connections are solid. if you're not sure of the ebrake connection, the only way to double check is to take a multimeter and check it along the hks wiring. either splice off some insulation like in the middle of the wire going to the hks unit or physically open it up. i soldered mine.. i avoid crimp connectors and those splicing things where you feed the wires through and snap everything together. too many problems with such a small gauge wire, connections came loose on my greddy gauges and my sbc-id too many times.

i think it definately has to be a ebrake connection, there's nothing else that will shut off the timer one the hks unless you push the button on the top left (forgot which one it is) while it's counting down. if it's not the connection, then i'm guessing something's wrong with the unit because you can't mess up the power wiring with the subaru harness.

I think it should work fine without any mods. It sounds like the timer itself is on some sort of "off" mode (I am running the blitz which has an off mode, but I don't know much about the HKS one)


My take on the whole relay thing (I tried to send you a PM but your box is full CirrusWRX) is that it seems tough to do but once you have everything apart, its a breeze. And, I personally did not want to drop $$$ on a timer if I have to wait for it to count down before I can arm anything -- I personally think its the same as not having it then! I mean, if you're going to wait for the engine to shut off before you can leave it, whats the difference between the timer doing it and you waiting there and counting to whatever before taking the key out? :lol:

The relay I used is off an old fog light kit, and should be a standard relay that can be found at any auto store for ~ $5

Thanks to both of you! You guys rock! As it turns out, it was just a loose connection to the e-brake, and I swore I double and triple chekced it, but it wasn't completely 1000% fully snapped into place. I agree the vampire taps aren't the best, but I just don't feel comfortable soldering that close to leather and upholstery - my l33t skillz aren't quite up to par :(

But once I got it, everything now is 100% a ok -- of course, I can't arm my alarm or lock my doors (heheh) but at least I have some great instructions, and I know where everything is located, but alas, that is for another day!

Thanks also about the info that my pm box is full - I had no idea :( ...Cleaning it out now...

as always with this place, thanks very much for your help.

PS. Best 0-60 (almost near-stock car) I managed a 5.7 sec going easy on the launch. Still searching for enough road to play around with the 1/4 mile :) it's gimmicky, but it's fun. And it's sure nice to be able to keep an eye on the electrical system, and to have a shift light now. Good stuff, and when I came home tonight, just parked it in the garage, and let it sit with its "auto" setting - I was upstairs already brushing my teeth and I heard it shut itself down. Good stuff!

Congrats on the install CirrusWRX!

Sorry to hear the alarm problem, I still have mine as well, unfortunately. I tried the method tdxflex said, and also buymeasti was trying to help with my install for the alarm part, it still doesn't work. And yes, I did double and triple check all the connections to the relay, and HKS harness (green wire). The alarm still doesn't arm when counting down, doors does lock however. :)

I will try the other method when I get a chance, hopefully it will work.

BTW, I was just wondering where you mounted the timer?

I mounted mine on the blank dash part next to the cup holder, under the AC vents. Looks stock, but sure took a hella of a long time with a dremel! :p But it's worth it, cos everything looks factory stock!

Anyways, good luck on the rest of the install (alarm), and let me know if you've found a way to make everything work! Congrats!

Thanks! Yeah - it's supposed to be 55 degrees (!) this week (since it's been hovering around 25-30) so I'm going to try and do the alarm mods this on Tues/Thursd - whichever I have more time.

I, too, mounted mine below the vents in the "blank" spot - I think that dremel/filing/sanding time EASILY took twice as long as the actual INSTALL time of the TT :lol:

But I like where it is at the moment, but I might see if I can find some trim to put around the edges or something, since mine is black, it looks a little different than were it silver. (I have US spec Type I)

Good luck on your half, also. I may end up PM/emailing you to find out what you might be missing, or what you have tried!

Ive had the set first described for quite a while.. Cut the alarm wire and cut the keyless wire and run 2 wires from the acc into both of them.. or something like that..

The only thing Ive noticed is that sometimes the alarm gets set off. I think it has to do with the vibration sensor, maybe I should turn it down because it only happens when i lock the car up with more than 30 seconds on the timer. I think when the fan kicks in that sudden jolt sets it off... hmm.

:banana: :banana: :disco: :confused:

i just installed mine everything works great except for the rpm gauge, any of the speed timings....hopefully my connctions to the ECU are right...does anyone have a pic of the TT wires connected into the ECU so i can make sure their right?

I did the install of my HKS TT Type -0, I thought it was but it lights up blue, and also flashes red on count down, so not sure it's really a Trpe -0 or not. My problem is when I turn the car off the engine dies :confused:, but the turbo timer is counting down, any ideas? The TT will count down reguardless of what position the ebrake is in also.

-I used the adapter harness, and pulled the blue wire with red stripe from the TT plastic plug.

-Then connected both plugs of the adapter to blue plug.

-I conected the black wire to ground.

-Found the keyless entry module and cut the dark green with black stripe wire, ran a wire to splice into the blue accessory wire with a connector (I would of ran a wire from the grey wire on the Security cont. box, but looks like my STi didn't have that option).

-Lastly I spliced into the green Ebrake, to the grey wire on the TT.

Did I miss some thing???

I Want To Make Sure That You Can Hook Up The Hks Type 0 The Same Way
As In All The Instructions From Blueridge RS. THE INSTRUCTIONS SOUND
GOOD BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYONE MENTION OF USING THE TYPE 0
ON AN 05 STi

Followed Blue Ridge's instructions to install my type-1 and it works perfectly! Thanks.:banana:

Does anyone know if these instructions work for 05' STI ?????

I Want To Make Sure That You Can Hook Up The Hks Type 0 The Same Way
As In All The Instructions From Blueridge RS. THE INSTRUCTIONS SOUND
GOOD BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYONE MENTION OF USING THE TYPE 0
ON AN 05 STi

not to get extremely technical...but how would this all work if i have a remote starter?

Back from the dead eh? Alright guys, I seriously need some help ASAP. I tried installing my Apexi turbo timer with the HKS wiring harness in my 07 WRX. I spiced into the parking break, snipped the dark green and black wire in the keyless entry module, and I ran a ground. Everything works great, even my security and remote entry while the TT is counting down. BUT....my car wont friggen start. I did not snip the grey wire in the security module because I couldnt find it. I know this controls the engine imobilzer, so is causing my car to not start. I really would appreciate any help. Im bugging out right now.

Im with iRace..

Installing my Apexi TT in a day or two with the HKS harness..

Im assuming all this same wiring applies to either TT?

Someone answer iRaces question so I can know too.. hah

Thanks

anyone know if the ecu harness for an o7 sti isthe same as the 02-05? need to find my rpmsignal andspeed sensor wires.

anyone know where to get a wiring diagram for the HKS type 1, just got installed on an 05' STi but im having a few issues..the timer on auto mode works 50% of the time and the other 50% the car just shuts off (regardless of what the timer is displaying), the RPM function is displaying almost 500 rpms greater than what the needle is...that a common issue? yesterday when the timer decided to function properly i tested it out and put the ebrake down and the timer kept counting without shutting off so i was thinking it wasnt grounded/connected but if that was the case wouldnt the power to the timer just shutdown when i cut the car off? a wiring diagram for the 05' would be great or maybe a write up...anything would be much appreciated.

Thanks

where is the parking break wire on an 07 wrx