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At the NAIAS in Detroit, Subaru unveiled its new Subaru Legacy Concept. No details are yet known about the "real" 2010 Subaru Legacy GT, but you can bet that it will share a very similar form. We don't expect all the gee-whiz gadgetry to make it to the final product.

For the complete gallery, visit drivingsports.com (http://www.drivingsports.com/site/2009/01/subaru-legacy-concept-unveiled/) since we can't really host a complete gallery here on NASIOC. (Feel free to repost the pics into this thread, however.)

NASIOC discussion already in progress in this thread (http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1461950)

Subiesport editor Travis Geny shares his throughts on the new model at subiesport.com (http://www.subiesport.com/2009/01/new-legacy-gt-concept-photos-released.html)

NASIOC Member amdmaxx took pics of the car on the stand at NAIAS: Post (http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showpost.php?p=25142168&postcount=879)

God that front end is hideous

I don't really like it :(

http://www.drivingsports.com/site/wp-content/gallery/2009-subaru-legacy-concept/09NAIAS_LegCon5.jpg

http://www.drivingsports.com/site/wp-content/gallery/2009-subaru-legacy-concept/09NAIAS_LegCon13.jpg

http://www.drivingsports.com/site/wp-content/gallery/2009-subaru-legacy-concept/09NAIAS_LegCon2.jpg

God that front end is hideous

yeah, everyone says that with every concept...
i could get used to it...

Presenting, the 2007 Nissan Maxima!

http://z.about.com/d/cars/1/0/N/S/2007_Nissan_Maxima.jpg
http://www.drivingsports.com/site/wp-content/gallery/2009-subaru-legacy-concept/09NAIAS_LegCon.jpg

Presenting, the 2007 Nissan Maxima!



We dont have to get into this, if you really look at every car you can find a match for every car made...

Isnt that how all concepts are made?

This looks like it would cost as much as an A6

I like it, the interior looks badass, the outside is kinda of meh, but thats what I say about all the cars in it's class.

Interior :eek:

Exterior :unamused:

Subaru is goin downhill, out of WRC, now this.

Interior :eek:

Exterior :unamused:

Subaru is goin downhill, out of WRC, now this.

:huh:what, thats why their sales were up for 08...:unamused:

Outside is hideous

Inside is absolutely beautiful

you can tell toyota has some sort of foot in this concept. :-/

Outside is hideous

Inside is absolutely beautiful

After seeing some interior pics

I have to agree :)

http://www.drivingsports.com/site/wp-content/gallery/2009-subaru-legacy-concept/09NAIAS_LegCon.jpg

Woof.

I don't know why they make concept cars, they never look like what the real car ends up looking like... Well that isn't totally true, but if I were them I would make it look almost exactly the same, but maybe a little bit cooler. A car looking like that won't be made until 2078!

I think it looks kinda cool. It is way different in the front, but I could grow to like it. I really didn't like the 08-09 fronts, but now they are growing on me.

Massive fail....

:huh:what, thats why their sales were up for 08...:unamused:

Yeah...and Camry is the top selling car in the U.S....but you wouldn't call it exciting...

I agree about the Maxima thing, which is one of the ugliest sedans out there. And there may be similarities in all car designs but this is almost a blatant copy of an ugly car (imho). Inside is amazing though.

Wow, now thats atrocious. Honestly, what the hell is Subaru thinking? There is just WAY too much going on in that front clip. The car needs to FLOW, they took 4 or 5 different designs and just overlayed them into one big pile of ****.

I like. Its a concept, so the real thing will likely mellow out some. Sideview has a smack of BMW to it. They need to continue their bread-and-butter success they started with the new Imp and Foz, if they get that down, which they should, they can hopefully offer more enthusiast-friendly models.

My god, the "looks like a ______" posts are getting so old. There isn't a car out there that doesn't have some sort of SUBJECTIVE resemblance to another car. Simpsons did it! Simpsons did it!

wats up with the almost non-existent side mirrors?

Presenting, the 2007 Nissan Maxima!

http://z.about.com/d/cars/1/0/N/S/2007_Nissan_Maxima.jpg
http://www.drivingsports.com/site/wp-content/gallery/2009-subaru-legacy-concept/09NAIAS_LegCon.jpg

Hey come on at least the fuel door is on the other side:)

I made the same comment on autoblog today. Called it subamas maximus. These picks really show that they basically ripped the entire roof and trunk line off Nissan. But hey I would rather Subaru take their styling queues from the makers of the gt-r and 370z than the makers of the prius and camry.

I like. Its a concept, so the real thing will likely mellow out some. Sideview has a smack of BMW to it. They need to continue their bread-and-butter success they started with the new Imp and Foz, if they get that down, which they should, they can hopefully offer more enthusiast-friendly models.

My god, the "looks like a ______" posts are getting so old. There isn't a car out there that doesn't have some sort of SUBJECTIVE resemblance to another car. Simpsons did it! Simpsons did it!


.....:confused:

http://files.conceptcarz.com/img/Chevrolet/chevy_malibu_manu-08_01-800.jpg
http://www.drivingsports.com/site/wp-content/gallery/2009-subaru-legacy-concept/09NAIAS_LegCon.jpg

As well?! Guess it's that main stream look thing that sells. When you think about it, it makes sense nobody wants to be different but they still have their brand loyalty :rolleyes:

It isnt just subaru all the manufacturers are making horrible looking cars. There are very few newer cars that are great to look at. It only seems to get worse. What do you expect though when they have to have a major face lift every four or five years now instead of going eight to ten years.

Grossssss !! !
http://www.ac-nancy-metz.fr/enseign/anglais/Henry/throw_up.jpg

Horrible SAY NO!

New Infiniti?

yeah its ugly... but will it probably sell better than ever ???

none of these car picture comparisons look anything alike you people are ridiculous.

First complaints pour in saying subaru is going mainstream & now come the complaints that this concept is too different/ugly. I for one like the thing as it isn't boring looking and the interior looks straight out of a luxury car :)

It is absolutely boring looking. No amount of lowering and hellaflush Volks will fix that.

none of these car picture comparisons look anything alike you people are ridiculous.

First complaints pour in saying subaru is going mainstream & now come the complaints that this concept is too different/ugly. I for one like the thing as it isn't boring looking and the interior looks straight out of a luxury car :)

I'm sorry but you gotta be blind not see that the exterior looks like something that came from the Nissan/Infiniti studios. Especially the strong influence of the Infiniti G series, the earlier G35 sedan comes to mind.

I mean come on, where is the Subaru's uniqueness?

Turn it into an Outback and it'll look much better. It's nice although it does look like any run of the mill import sedan.
I just wish they would bring back the Baja. That would look kewl as a Baja.

lol. i actually really like this car. hopefully it'll sell horribly so that i can get a good deal on it :D

i see what you did there subaru...


trying to make cars that are going to sell (well) isn't easy. I think that they had pretty much a perfect car in the 05+ legacy's. Without getting into the nitty gritty is was unmistakably Subaru while still appealing to the masses. I think that's what they're trying to do here but they're not creating anything new and exciting to set Subaru apart from every other manufacturer. I think we can agree that the reason we all love Subaru's is because their different in some way, whether it be styling, engine options, or just the people who love them because of their AWD Turbo goodness, they've always been different. This new concept is simply more of the same. If I wanted a boring midsize sedan from nissan/infinity/chevrolet/buick etc. I'd go buy one. But I want a Subaru.

So, SoA: Keep/update the present exterior styling, make it a little bigger on the interior (or even use the interior from this one) and give us a Turbo H6 or yeah, a turbodiesel and you wont hear me complaining. Oh and subaru, make a legacy wagon again.

i kinda like the shot of it from the side

and the interior is sweet

my bet is that subaru will make it look like a g35 knock-off judging by that concept

bring back the 05-06 back PLEASE!

The entire car looks a little busy and such...hope they iron it out a bit and drop all the wildness.

If the car looks the same, it's too similar to others. If it doesn't, Subaru can't style anything and what were they thinking... :rolleyes:
I'm pretty sure if you name any mainstream car within the last 5 years, we can dig up a picture of another car that looks like it. People still can't decide if my 08 STI is ugly or if it looks like a Mazdaspeed 3. I don't care, it's a blast to drive and I think it looks great, and it's my car so it works out quite nice.
It's hard to imagine making a sedan look like anything other than a sedan.

NO SUBARU!!!! BAD SUBARU!!! BAD!!:furious::furious::furious::furious:

I like it, a bit much right now. But im sure things will be refined. Interior is siick. We all hated the 08 WRX's and now they're everywhere and they have even grown on us (including me)

AutoWeek
http://www.autoweek.com/article/20090111/FREE/901119973

We Shall See....

It is absolutely boring looking. No amount of lowering and hellaflush Volks will fix that.Thank god for small miracles.

wow this looks bad.

wow it really looks like this is GM crap

i see what you did there subaru...


trying to make cars that are going to sell (well) isn't easy. I think that they had pretty much a perfect car in the 05+ legacy's. Without getting into the nitty gritty is was unmistakably Subaru while still appealing to the masses.

The 05+ Legacy was outdated and outsized against its competition: the current Accord, Camry, Altima and Mazda6. Yes, it was a very pretty car, and I personally love the way it looks and drives, but to sell well the redesign needed to be bigger, bolder and more comparable to its rivals. That's what it is, and I expect it to be successful.

Some of our members need to keep in mind that Subaru is a business that needs to grow its sales to be profitable. All the doomsaying is a little ridiculous. "OMG Subaru sux0rz!! It's so fugly it looks like an Altima/BMW/Camry/G35! I'm never buying another Subaru!"

Subaru would KILL for the kind of sales numbers that Nissan or BMW enjoy. Right now SOA has its biggest share of the U.S. market in history on the strength of a LARGER, MORE MAINSTREAM Forester (see the pattern?), and it's STILL less than 2% of the 13 million new car sales this year. At some point, if Subaru is going to justify its existence to FHI's shareholders, it needs to step up and start selling cars that lots of consumers want to buy-- NOT just cars that please the NASIOC community and sit comfortably in their quirky little niche.

Subarus have always been about engineering more than aesthetics, yes? Well, under that new skin lies the same AWD system and boxer engine configuration all the fanbois know and love. And it'll come with the 3.6L out of the Tribeca to boot. So I guess what I'm trying to say is that the new Legacy isn't supposed to appeal to us, it's supposed to appeal to everyone that is NOT us-- while still retaining the engineering fundamentals that made Subaru great in the first place. Give it a chance and appreciate it for what it is.

anybody check out the side view mirrors?

hey like dont look like they are there like i cant even tell what is there

interior definitely awesome... toyota-inspired? reminds me of the lexus IS interior a bit... the push-start button definitely lol...

anybody check out the side view mirrors?

hey like dont look like they are there like i cant even tell what is there

they are cameras...look at the rear veiw mirror on the interior shot..

i'll wight to see the spec-B concept pics befor i make up my mind

Definitely a strong Nissan/Infiniti design influence there. I'm just hoping this looks better in person (like the Impreza) or else marvels the heck out of us with it's performance.

Subaru is doing the right thing by moving forward on design. Not everyone is going to like it but this will draw in new Subie customers. Subaru has always been more about whats on the inside (ie Powertrain) than the outside. Subaru wants to eventually become one of the major car companies like honda or toyota.You would be surprised how many folks have no clue what a Subaru really is or what its about. I like the new design. The old design is so Blah. Most people have to mod their Legacys to make them look edgy. Look hard enough and you will find similaraties between any car. I can see Caddy STS Headlights if I look hard enough. Relax with the critacisims and be a freakin Subie Fan or go buy an EVO.

i think it looks good, especially the interior

i think it need's to be scooped

look at the 05 to 09's, not great stock but throw some rims on it, and it's badass lookin.

subaru could make it look a little better, but than what would we be able to do.

let's mod it

The future of cars is SAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They are all the same and a copy from one another!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

so much for the conventional FMIC

looks like it may have twin intercoolers... which may mean twin turbos!

When recently has the leggy styling been cutting edge? It was bland... not even quirky. The wrx and forester always had that stuff covered. (maybe not now) Everyone is always ranting about subaru's funky looks that make them unique, but this is simply not the case. The base model impreza before 01' always looked pretty mainstream. Only the models with flares and/or hood scoops had really un-mainstream looks. The truth is they have always made a mix of generic and funky cars. Im hoping they will keep the generic looking base models and please the enthusiast with the performance editions. (hopefully some new styling for '10 wrx sti and a sti or spec b leggy)

New Infiniti?

http://www.drivingsports.com/site/wp-content/gallery/2009-subaru-legacy-concept/09NAIAS_LegCon.jpg

http://www.leasetrader.com/photos/actual82322/640x480/Infiniti-G35X-AWD-Sedan.jpeg

Correctamundo

What happened to Subaru's originality? :sadbanana:

Correctamundo

What happened to Subaru's originality? :sadbanana:

Subaru's originality doesn't bring in enough sales. The originality still exists, it has just evolved a bit. If they don't make progress and get a better share of sales, they're not being business smart. Nissan needs to make and sell Sentras to be able to make and sell the Z car, Honda needed to make the civic, accords, etc to be able to have made the (now doomed) S2000, Chevy needs its truck sales and born rental car sales to have the Vette and ZR1, and on and on.

+1 on the previous comments on how sharp the 05-09 Legacys were, yet still werent pleasing enough to enough people to bring in enough sales, this does not mean the it isnt a great looking, driving, and performing car.

It doesn't matter how good your car is to the few if many don't buy it.

Again, I'm sure this car will morph into a more pleasing final product. There are a lot of design item on this car that probably won't make it to the final version, some aspects may be intended for other cars and they're just showcasing them here on one concept car.

great looking ford.

current legacy looks svelte to me, especially after comparing it to it competitors. It realy felt and looked svelte.
this redesign seems rather large and bulky.
Very maxima very GMish, large bulky.
This is clearly a vehicle aimed right at the mainstream, no more crosshop the others and stumble upon the legacy. Subaru wants in...in a big way.
I hope this works for the sake of subaru.
personaly im...meh on this one, it does not invoke"want" in me like the current legacy did when i first saw it .
originality.... sadbanana indeed, but probably for the best.

I think it looks great. IMHO, it is time for a facelift on the Legacy (no offense current owners). Just a bit plain in today's market. I might consider a trade in come 2010 if it stays on this track.

Seeing that SUBARU was the only auto maker to report an increase in sales for 2008 they must be doing something right.

Subaru needs to move the Legacy upsale. They've already got the Impreza as their "economy" car.

it fell out of the ugly tree

Add a scoop and I'll be happy!!!:)

Presenting, the 2007 Nissan Maxima!

http://www.drivingsports.com/site/wp-content/gallery/2009-subaru-legacy-concept/09NAIAS_LegCon.jpg



Hmm...No sir, I don't like.

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/hoosker_doo/dr_mr_horse.jpg


Correctamundo



What happened to Subaru's originality?

Yeah, it's got a distinct G35/Altima look. The front end reminds me of the new Acura front end

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/hoosker_doo/2009_acura_tl_sedan.jpg

Add a scoop and I'll be happy!!!:)
That's what it's missing!!

It's cool if the side view mirrors have cameras in them... but I still want a MIRROR there as well!

not to my liking.

http://www.drivingsports.com/site/wp-content/gallery/2009-subaru-legacy-concept/09NAIAS_LegCon.jpg

http://www.leasetrader.com/photos/actual82322/640x480/Infiniti-G35X-AWD-Sedan.jpeg

Correctamundo

What happened to Subaru's originality? :sadbanana:

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f244/rexspeedworthy/cat.jpg

It does have a strong G35 sedan profile...As the owner of a Legacy, I loved having a car that looks different. People ask all the time what kind of Audi it is. (Its debadged) However, I wouldn't be telling the truth if I didn't admit to a few people asking "When did Toyota start making wagons again?" when they see my car.

It does have a strong G35 sedan profile...As the owner of a Legacy, I loved having a car that looks different. People ask all the time what kind of Audi it is. (Its debadged) However, I wouldn't be telling the truth if I didn't admit to a few people asking "When did Toyota start making wagons again?" when they see my car.

Cars all look like cars. If an alien came to earth, ALL our cars would look the same. People really need to get over it. It's just really old, that EVERY new car will resemble something. Even if they were to produce Homer Simpsons car, it would look like a...well, that may be the only execption.:lol:

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f244/rexspeedworthy/homer_dreamcar.gif

Oh dear Lord, here we go again with all the, 'It looks like a copy of XYZ's whatever you wanna call it.'

Cars have a hood, doors, fenders, roof, and a trunk... How many different designs are possible while taking into account Federal Motor Vehicle Standards, aerodynamics, and manufacturability constraints?

Unless you're talking about Lamborghini or something else, just how many car designs do you think are possible without resembling any other car in production? Look how many auto manufacturers there are in the world as well... There's quite a few and that also shrinks the possible number of unique designs as well.

I for one would love for anyone who's bitching about the new Legacy design actually DESIGN a completely unique car that does not resemble any other car that was build, is currently built, or was a concept car... Please, someone, anyone!

Subaru did a good job on the concept car and I just might be selling my WRX when the new Legacy comes out.

This thing looks like an Audi had non-consensual relations with an Infiniti, then a new TL got involved to finish the job.

I don't mind when carmakers copy other cars, but, dammit, copy some good-looking ones for a change.

The rear end is acceptable, and the flares are fine.

The front end has to go, however.

And for those raving about the interior, I am sure that you already know the gadgetfest won't make it into production, right?

from the exterior point of view, I like everything, especially the rear lights. But they really screw up the front... why copy Mitsu that copy Audi???!! sigh~ and you guys thought they screw up the Impreza~

\(`Д´)/

I really hope they don't put that thing into production, it looks damn ugly. I agree with 05-white-sti, the future of cars is going to be sad. Most new cars made me not want to drive a car :sadbanana:

Also 3.6 liter engine? And those fender flares are weak.

G A R B A G E. All around.

I guess flat touch screen controls should be put on everything now? Someone at Toyota worked with Subaru and decided he should put his i-Crap into his design. I was really looking forward to the new LGT...guess it's better not to build up your expectations and hopes and just assume all future models will suck balls.

EDIT: After looking closer...that a twin FMIC setup? I like the front bumper design esp if that's the case. Hmm maybe they will at least get a nice boost in performance afterall!?

Looks like a Sebring!

I am looking out my office window staring at the current Gen Legacy and I have to say that it IS a dull-looking car. It in no way, is as aggressive or as cutting edge as this new concept.
Yes, Subaru has been making their cars look more mainstream, but can you blame them? Their whole purpose is to sell cars. If they fail at that, then what is the point? To satisfy a core group of buyers that bitch and moan every time they make a styling change?
And let's face it, Subaru has never made "pretty" cars. The 06-07 Impreza was sorta pretty in a weird kinda way. The current Legacy is a handsome car, pretty? No.
Design, be it fashion, electronics, houses or cars, moves in fads, styles and periods. Subaru is simply being relevant. The current Legacy design was a little behind the times when it came out, now it really looks like an old car compared to what Acura, Infinity and Lexus are doing.
But who cares what it looks like? The bugeye is not a good looking car. It is funky, but when it came out it revolutionized the US Import-tuner car market because it was AWD, turbocharged, fast and just what everyone wanted. They bought it despite it's looks. But how many did they really sell? Subaru is trying to make the switch from funky niche manufacturer to a more mainstream car maker. They need to look the part.
I guess I don't understand people who are already calling this car "garbage." It's different, yes. Does it look like anything else Subaru has ever done? No. But is it cool looking all its own? I think so. I would rock this over a G35. Especially if it does have a TT H6.

+1.

Everyone acts as though Subaru needs only their own personal single car sale to survive, not thousands.

Looks like a Sebring!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

Omg!!!

eww i hate it

eh.. sigh

hmm i got bored. so i played with photoshop

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v647/tr4nc34hol1kk/newscoob3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v647/tr4nc34hol1kk/newscoob.jpg

Awesome Trance, now it just needs a FMIC

It definitely was not Sebring looking. I was out there last night and still not sure what to think. Then again, I wasn't so sure of my bugeye either at the time.

http://web.travisjbailey.com/media/legacy_concept.jpg

I sort of like the new gen concept, just something needs to be done with the fender flares and the side windows...like something more advance or with movement, like BMW's, they look like they are always moving because of the way of how the doors and the windows look like in reference to the rest of the body...

Whats this I hear of a 2 door version? That just a rumor?

Nice car, and it will sell like the Impreza.

At least it has pretty big fender flares. You'd be constantly wiping off fingerprints and every time someone got in your car you'd have to yell "HEY!! DON'T TOUCH ANYTHING!!... ok lets go."

Every one hated the sti wagon before it came out it seemed. I think this is the same idea. People will end up falling in love with this new legacy.

At least it has pretty big fender flares. You'd be constantly wiping off fingerprints and every time someone got in your car you'd have to yell "HEY!! DON'T TOUCH ANYTHING!!... ok lets go."

I think the flares look kind of odd. Like a body kit that they tried to mold in.

i think that the look will grow on folks. i still wish the 06 impreza styling was around. hated that at first but it definitely grew on me.

Overall, I like it. Frameless windows? (Doesn't look like it but hope so).

NASIOC Member amdmaxx took pics of the car on the stand at NAIAS: Post (http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showpost.php?p=25142168&postcount=879)


I don't think the actual pics of it are all that bad. I am sure it will be toned down a bit for the production version. But the over all concept is not all that bad. Give it time. The next set of tweeks will make it look somewhere between that picture and the current WRX is my bet.

hmm i got bored. so i played with photoshop

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v647/tr4nc34hol1kk/newscoob3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v647/tr4nc34hol1kk/newscoob.jpg


Nice try, but...no, this didn't save it. Lowered with the RPF-1s was the best of the two. The front end is incredibly...toyish looking and that closed off lower middle section has got to go-I don't care how many intercoolers you have. Those of you excited about the interior: it will never make it to production. The back looks like a ford focus. The overall lines are similar to a G35 with definite Toyota influence(not necessarily bad, but clearly evident). I hate the headlights. Gen4 headlights were the best. The flares are...eh. Having a rounded flare with a flat angle hood kind of clashes, but I guess it's better than no flares. Overall...definitely more mainstream, I'm sure they will get higher sales, but I would never buy one whereas I might have bought an 05-09 Legacy.

I disagree... I think the lowering and gold rims saved it. Hopefully that's what the 2011 STI with the Turbo 460hp H6 will look like... Nice chop.

This car makes me shake with fury.

from the side and back its not bad, but i dont like the front.