Luke posted this up in the Tire & Wheel section. Figured people would be very interested here:

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1677913

http://www.potenza.jp/lineup/re11/imgs/topL.jpg

The new Bridgestone Potenza RE-11 Extreme Performance Summer tire has arrived.

I will have more info in the near future but, I can tell you that this is a North American-spec tire, which is different than the original version already available in Japan. But, before you think that we are getting an inferior product, know that Bridgestone North America has done extensive testing, and has developed a spec that is faster at street tire autocross competition (where the RE-01R has already been very competitive) than both the Potenza RE-01R and the JDP-spec RE-11.

The Potenza RE-11 is an Extreme Performance Summer tire developed for enthusiastic sports car, sports coupe and performance sedan drivers. The Potenza RE-11 is designed to combine traction, handling and driving control with good noise and ride comfort. The Potenza RE-11 is tuned for dry and wet conditions but like all summer tires, it not intended to be driven in near-freezing temperatures, through snow or on ice.

The Potenza RE-11 is the first Potenza street tire to incorporate Bridgestone's 3D Seamless Stealth technology originally introduced in their Formula 1 and GP2 racing tires. The Potenza RE-11 features an asymmetric tread pattern that combines massive outboard independent shoulder blocks interlocked with a notched circumferential intermediate rib that provides the lateral stiffness needed to enhance steering response and increase dry cornering traction. Inboard, a continuous intermediate rib and notched shoulder rib are separated by wide, straight circumferential grooves that provide water evacuation to resist hydroplaning and enhance wet traction.

The tire's internal structure features a custom designed asymmetric shape that helps distribute footprint pressure more evenly by keeping the straighter outboard sidewall from "falling down" while helping the more rounded inboard sidewall resist "falling away" during aggressive cornering. Two wide steel belts reinforced by spirally wound nylon provide strength, uniform ride quality and high-speed capability.

Bridgestone Potenza RE-11 tires feature black letter styling and are available in selected 55-, 50-, 45-, 40-, 35-, and 30-series V- or W-speed rated sizes for 15" to 19" wheel diameters.

american spec FTL ... :D

yea i was super excited.. till i read the north american spec... the re-11's in japan are supposed to be way better then the re01r's. I'm sure the re11's will be nice here.. as well.

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at least it's faster than the 01r :] but at what price? most likely more expensive than the z1 ss still...

Japanese spec tires will always be better than what we get here in the states. I remember when yokohama introduced the advan neova here; the hardcores were still trying to get the japanese version since they were slightly better.

If I remember correctly, the neovas were really cheap in japan as well.

I should be used to them by the time I get to Lincoln. I wish that I had them now. Hopefully, I won't hate the Kumho XS's that I just recieved.

wait huh... the article sais that the american version is slightly better then the japanese ones??? lol

Ive got the re01r on my sti and boy do i LOVE those tires :D

sweet heavens, this thread is full of retard

"But, before you think that we are getting an inferior product, know that Bridgestone North America has done extensive testing, and has developed a spec that is faster at street tire autocross competition (where the RE-01R has already been very competitive) than both the Potenza RE-01R and the JDP-spec RE-11."

sweet heavens, this thread is full of retard

"But, before you think that we are getting an inferior product, know that Bridgestone North America has done extensive testing, and has developed a spec that is faster at street tire autocross competition (where the RE-01R has already been very competitive) than both the Potenza RE-01R and the JDP-spec RE-11."

No kidding! You guys, it will be faster AND cheaper. Why is everyone so down on Bridgestone? Jeez!

-Colin

The Potenza RE-11 features an asymmetric tread pattern that combines massive outboard independent shoulder blocks interlocked with a notched circumferential intermediate rib that provides the lateral stiffness needed to enhance steering response and increase dry cornering traction.

Sweet, asymmetric = wheel rotations with a cross instead of just front <-> back. :P

Sweet, asymmetric = wheel rotations with a cross instead of just front <-> back. :P

They appear to be directional as well, so I don't know if cross rotations would be ideal for the street. But who cares about the street?

No kidding! You guys, it will be faster AND cheaper. Why is everyone so down on Bridgestone? Jeez!

-Colin

if the bolded holds true, :banana:

Sizes are listed on the TireRack site. ;)

--kC

so...it looks like 235/40/17 is the size for us so far. i'm hoping for 245/40/17 or 255/40/17.

i will say this

so far re01r's have been the best perfomance street tire i've tracked on.. I'm on dunlops now and will see how they do. but if this out performs re01r's then its already a winner.

so...it looks like 235/40/17 is the size for us so far. i'm hoping for 245/40/17 or 255/40/17.

for real. it's still early, though.

Actually I've imported a set of RE-11s from Japan last summer. I have mixed feelings about these. They are horrible on wet surfaces, just a tad better than RE070s, causing the car a pretty aggressive understeer. I wasn't satisfied on street tarmac or track surface neither.

Maybe my 2550 lbs Type R STi is just too light for these tyres, but I burn them even in 2nd on totally dry surface.

I've been running RE-01Rs for a short time, I liked those waaay better...next up is the Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec

Maybe my 2550 lbs Type R STi

can i have your car?

Sure ;)

Tell them we want the RE55S!!!

Actually I've imported a set of RE-11s from Japan last summer. I have mixed feelings about these. They are horrible on wet surfaces, just a tad better than RE070s, causing the car a pretty aggressive understeer. I wasn't satisfied on street tarmac or track surface neither.

Maybe my 2550 lbs Type R STi is just too light for these tyres, but I burn them even in 2nd on totally dry surface.

I've been running RE-01Rs for a short time, I liked those waaay better...next up is the Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec
Size?

Better performance, for less money... Bridgestone is teh magic.

Size?

225/45R17 I've tested them to the limits, but not satisfied at all. Looks like the sidewalls are stiff, but they feel soft when cornering. Tried numerous psi front/rear, nothing helped much

I'm considering this for the next tire for my daily. I think it fits the bill for what I am going for.

FFS, can i get a 235 16, 225 15, or 255 13?!??! whats with all these fat bastage r1c3r sizes :(

Its too bad they are not going to make some wider 16's, I heard 225/50/16, I'd like a 245/40/16 or so

so...it looks like 235/40/17 is the size for us so far. i'm hoping for 245/40/17 or 255/40/17.

Where are you all seeing available sizes? I don't see these on Tirerack or Bridgestonetire.com

Where are you all seeing available sizes? I don't see these on Tirerack or Bridgestonetire.com

Tire Rack had them up... they must have taken them down. :lol:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Spec.jsp?make=Bridgestone&model=Potenza+RE-11&tirePageLocQty=

--kC

hmmmm.....say it isn't so......yet 'another' tire conspiracy...:lol:

Another tire company? Bridgestone is pretty well established in both market and autosports sectors.....

I look forward to reviews. I have really liked the Bridgestones I have run, albeit expensive....

hmmmm.....say it isn't so......yet 'another' tire conspiracy...:lol:

i think you're reading what he typed wrong ;)

re-11 sizes & specs were up when KC first posted, but they've since been taken down. hopefully, it'll be reposted with more available sizes :)

i think you're reading what he typed wrong ;)

re-11 sizes & specs were up when KC first posted, but they've since been taken down. hopefully, it'll be reposted with more available sizes :)

I hate to say that there will be no change in sizes

I hate to say that there will be no change in sizes

That would surprise me, considering 245/40/17's won Nationals (STU) last year.

They must have 245/40/17!!!! That would be a huge marketing error on Bridgestones part if they don't already know that or if they don't deliver.

They must have 245/40/17!!!! That would be a huge marketing error on Bridgestones part if they don't already know that or if they don't deliver.

Exactly. That would leave much of STX & STU out in the cold.

I hate to say that there will be no change in sizes

I am not sure where you heard this, but there will be 245/40/17s FOR SURE. Everyone can settle down now.... :)

-Colin

Everyone can settle down now.... :)

Settle down??!? This is tire wars, I'm just about done building my war room central command and real-time strategery update map.

Settle down??!? This is tire wars, I'm just about done building my war room central command and real-time strategery update map.

LOL! Just buy the Bridgestones and everything will be ok! ;)

-Colin

when are these supposed to hit the market? How will they compare to the re01-r?

when are these supposed to hit the market? How will they compare to the re01-r?

Certain people already have them. They are in the country and everything already, but will not be sold to the public until March 1st. They will be faster, I am hoping much faster, but don't know myself yet. I don't have a set yet since I don't race until April and it wouldn't benefit me to have a set sitting in the house for months.

-Colin

I hate to say that there will be no change in sizes

I am not sure where you heard this, but there will be 245/40/17s FOR SURE. Everyone can settle down now.... :)

-Colin

Sorry I ment to say in 16" wheels :o

Does this remove RE01R from the market or make em a bargain?

any idea on price in a 255/35? Same section width and tread width compared to the re01r?

Mmmm...can't wait to hear more reviews of the tires. I'd like to move on from RE070's.

I hate to say that there will be no change in sizes

i saw a very limited list of sizes on tirerack, so my comment was referring to that.

Does this remove RE01R from the market or make em a bargain?

i'm hoping it make the re-01r a bargain.

any idea on price in a 255/35? Same section width and tread width compared to the re01r?

prices will probably be on par with (or higher than) the re-01r.

Mmmm...can't wait to hear more reviews of the tires. I'd like to move on from RE070's.

there are plenty of tires on the market already available. dunlop direzza z1 star spec, bridgstone re-01r, yokohama advan neova

I realize that. Was thinking more down the road, still got plenty of life in my RE070s...unless I go autox a few times sometime soon.

I guess what I'm trying to say is I'm waiting to see how these stack up against RE-01rs.

Settle down??!? This is tire wars, I'm just about done building my war room central command and real-time strategery update map.

A long time ago, in a parking lot far, far away...












http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c232/flyboymike/tirewars1.png

Luckily I've got until about early/mid May before I'll need to buy tires. Hopefully there are at least a few successful battles to make buying easier by then. Right now I'm counting on the RE-11's to be the right tire...at least at the right price (i.e., AD08).

i want.

Saw this posted on another forum by a Bridgestone representative:

The following list shows the initial size release.....

POTENZA RE-11 195/50R15 82V
POTENZA RE-11 205/45R16 87V
POTENZA RE-11 205/45R17 88W
POTENZA RE-11 205/50R15 86V
POTENZA RE-11 205/55R16 91V
POTENZA RE-11 215/45R17 91W
POTENZA RE-11 225/40R18 92W
POTENZA RE-11 225/45R17 94W
POTENZA RE-11 225/45R18 91W
POTENZA RE-11 225/50R16 92V
POTENZA RE-11 235/35R19 91W
POTENZA RE-11 235/40R17 90W
POTENZA RE-11 235/40R18 95W
POTENZA RE-11 235/45R17 97W
POTENZA RE-11 245/35R19 93W
POTENZA RE-11 245/40R17 91W
POTENZA RE-11 245/40R18 97W
POTENZA RE-11 245/45R17 95W
POTENZA RE-11 245/45R18 100W
POTENZA RE-11 255/35R18 90W
POTENZA RE-11 255/40R17 94W
POTENZA RE-11 265/35R18 93W
POTENZA RE-11 275/30R19 96W

noob question: do 235 sizs tires fit on a 225 rim? someone told me that is possible...

Pretty much wat i am asking is would the stock gold bbs rims hold up 235's? cause i know stock re070 are 225....

noob question: do 235 sizs tires fit on a 225 rim? someone told me that is possible...

Pretty much wat i am asking is would the stock gold bbs rims hold up 235's? cause i know stock re070 are 225....

ummm I really hope you are joking ;)

noob question: do 235 sizs tires fit on a 225 rim? someone told me that is possible...

Pretty much wat i am asking is would the stock gold bbs rims hold up 235's? cause i know stock re070 are 225....

you don't measure wheels by tire size :) you measure wheels by their width from rim to rim, and from that you choose a tire size. tire sizes have a recommended wheel width range that the manufacturers feel are safe.

your stock wheels are 17x8. 235/40 and 245/40 are popular sizes on that wheel size.

on the topic of the re-11, i just looked up 245/40/17 and 255/40/17 for the re-01r and it's just so hard to justify spending that much more per tire when the star specs are as fast for much less :( hopefully (although doubtfully), the re-11 will come in at a lower price point. or re-01rs will still be available at a lower price :)

Luke posted this up in the Tire & Wheel section. Figured people would be very interested here:

know that Bridgestone North America has done extensive testing, and has developed a spec that is faster at street tire autocross competition (where the RE-01R has already been very competitive) than both the Potenza RE-01R and the JDP-spec RE-11.

In the past this has been bad news for track tires. The Falken Azenis' track performance declined when they improved how fast the tires came up to operating temperatures for autocross performance. They were then known for overheating and being "greasy". I find that my 225 width RE-01R's are too easily overheated on my 3000lb WRX. By contrast, the 255 width Star Spec's on my 3400 lb STI resisted overheating much better this fall. On the other hand, they took a fair amount of time to heat up and I felt like I was sacrificing some performance in time attack runs where the course and # of timed laps was short. No data to support this latter claim though- just a feeling. If the RE-11's are even worse than the RE01R's, I will be sticking with the Dunlops barring more results.

Frank

on the topic of the re-11, i just looked up 245/40/17 and 255/40/17 for the re-01r and it's just so hard to justify spending that much more per tire when the star specs are as fast for much less :( hopefully (although doubtfully), the re-11 will come in at a lower price point.

Where's that test showing that the Z1's are as fast as the RE-11's? I believe the rumor mill on secret testing done back in the fall was that the RE-11 was noticably faster than the Z1, which would justify paying more for the RE-11 over the Z1. But that's just the rumor...I think Colin might know more. ;)

Where's that test showing that the Z1's are as fast as the RE-11's? I believe the rumor mill on secret testing done back in the fall was that the RE-11 was noticably faster than the Z1, which would justify paying more for the RE-11 over the Z1. But that's just the rumor...I think Colin might know more. ;)

Well I can't talk about the test, but I drove on the JDM spec RE-11. The US spec one that was tested after the Milwaukee test I hear is faster. I am excited to say the least. I wish it was April so I could get racing again....

-Colin

I didn't think the test could be discussed, but the rumors can still fly! I'm still hoping the RE-11 is "the" tire.

I am curious to see pricing, that will be the biggest factor in my book. Paying $200+ a tire for STS is more than I like to think about.

Might consider the RE-01R's if a price drop is in order

** sits back to watch **

I agree with wagonman. It will come down to price for me. I'm not going to spend whatever's necessary to get "the" fastest tire out there for nationals. This tire will be on my car from April until November. So far, I'm still looking at the Star Specs.

First 2 Sets in the Country go to:

Superman...

Shaved.....

http://photos-g.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-snc1/v2112/81/89/1519773425/n1519773425_30173886_9003.jpg


Regular...
http://photos-d.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-snc1/v2112/81/89/1519773425/n1519773425_30173883_8228.jpg

Nice........

I agree with wagonman. It will come down to price for me. I'm not going to spend whatever's necessary to get "the" fastest tire out there for nationals. This tire will be on my car from April until November. So far, I'm still looking at the Star Specs.

Exactly the situation I am in, one set per year is about it. I ran the Z1's last year and loved them!

The new Stones' look good though.... too bad they will be too proud of them :furious:

Just spoke with Luke from Tirerack.

He quoted me $221 per RE-11 tire for 245/40/17, but they're not in the warehouse. He said they'll probably arrive in about 3 weeks or February 16th.

He quoted me $221...

Jebus! I guess pricing wasn't much of a concern for Bridgestone. Contingency plz?

Just spoke with Luke from Tirerack.

He quoted me $221 per RE-11 tire for 245/40/17, but they're not in the warehouse. He said they'll probably arrive in about 3 weeks or February 16th.

Surprised its that low to be real wit ya. Expected the 250 range. Better buy these sooner than later cause every other ST* tire has gone up just about every few months.

I guess the AD08 isn't the only tire that's going to cost nearly a grand to buy a set.

My tires are 207 ea for a 13" that will last 100 runs if I'm lucky...you street tire guys just need to bear that in mind when you complain about a tire that can still win nationals at 300 runs.

you don't measure wheels by tire size :) you measure wheels by their width from rim to rim, and from that you choose a tire size. tire sizes have a recommended wheel width range that the manufacturers feel are safe.

your stock wheels are 17x8. 235/40 and 245/40 are popular sizes on that wheel size.

on the topic of the re-11, i just looked up 245/40/17 and 255/40/17 for the re-01r and it's just so hard to justify spending that much more per tire when the star specs are as fast for much less :( hopefully (although doubtfully), the re-11 will come in at a lower price point. or re-01rs will still be available at a lower price :)
Thanks!

Using 245/40?17 as a baseline:

The $211 RE-11s costwise slide in right under the AD-07s at $229. I imagine these will be the top two tires based on price and reviews.

The next tier down looks like the Dunlop Starspec Z1s at $164 and Kumho XS at $154

Next tier Hankook RS2 is $126 which will fall in with the RT-615. Both tires are not super competitive, but work for the money

Not sure about the New Nitto, and I left off the Toyo R1R since it doesn't seem like a populat ST* tire for subies

My tires are 207 ea for a 13" that will last 100 runs if I'm lucky...you street tire guys just need to bear that in mind when you complain about a tire that can still win nationals at 300 runs.

Once you shave your ST* tires, you don't get really any more than a season out of them. That right there is approx. 100 runs, or maybe 150 at most. A 245/40/17 r-comp is $253 each. If I'm spending $211+$20 for shaving, why not make the jump into an r-comp class? Plus in an r-comp class, you can simply throw a set of Hoosiers on there and call it good. In ST* you are either going to gamble on tire choice, or spend the extra money for at least two sets (or more) to do some tire testing.

With the current pricing of ST* tires and the tire wars taking place, there really isn't any cost savings to be had at the moment.

Go talk to Mccanix...he ran national events all year on one set of dunlops...and I believe the car (if not Greg) won every event it was entered in.

hmm. I'd say those tires are a pretty good bet :p

Star Specs for me at that price.

Star Specs for me at that price.

Yeah, I don't know if I'll spend an extra $400 to go from good tires to great tires. RE-01rs are about $160 last time I checked. I may go with these.

Go talk to Mccanix...he ran national events all year on two sets of dunlops...

Fixed. ;)

Using 245/40?17 as a baseline:

The $211 RE-11s costwise slide in right under the AD-07s at $229. I imagine these will be the top two tires based on price and reviews.

The next tier down looks like the Dunlop Starspec Z1s at $164 and Kumho XS at $154

Next tier Hankook RS2 is $126 which will fall in with the RT-615. Both tires are not super competitive, but work for the money

Not sure about the New Nitto, and I left off the Toyo R1R since it doesn't seem like a populat ST* tire for subies

Is there pricing out yet for the new AD08 and Nitto NT05's? Are there any reviews?

I didn't find anything, but I didn't look too hard.

Is there pricing out yet for the new AD08 and Nitto NT05's? Are there any reviews?
Someone on the BMW forums has a set of the AD08's, but they are not talking about them so far.

Yeah, I don't know if I'll spend an extra $400 to go from good tires to great tires. RE-01rs are about $160 last time I checked. I may go with these.

While I agree with your thinking, your math's off. $211-165=46 *4=184

While I agree with your thinking, your math's off. $211-165=46 *4=184
Actually Luke quoted me $221 per. So $221-$164 = $57 * 4 = $228

Still not $400, which I think was the original point. ;)

Still not $400, which I think was the original point. ;)

Exactly.

http://www.bridgestonetire.com/tireselector/GlamourIndex_BS_EN.aspx?ProductID=2033

--kC

RE11R 245/40/17 tread width 9.0"
versus
R1R 245/40/17 tread width 9.9"

I ordered Toyo's a couple of days ago.

RE11R 245/40/17 tread width 9.0"
versus
R1R 245/40/17 tread width 9.9"
I also noticed that the R1R in 245/40/17 (http://marktg.toyotires.com/file/30251.pdf) had a overall inflated width of 9.8" but the tread is measured at 9.9". How can the tread width be greater than the inflated width?
Also the R1R in both 245/40/17 and 275/40/17 have the exact same tread width of 9.9". If that's not a typo it'll get banned by the SCCA.

I suspect it's a typo because tread width for:
245/45/17 = 9.3"
245/40/17 = 9.9" ????
245/35/17 = 9.4"

245/40/17 is probably just long of 9.3"

Someone on the BMW forums has a set of the AD08's, but they are not talking about them so far.

discowagon on here has a set of the ad08s also. he will be trying them out at the track this weekend.

i cant wait for the RE-11. really curious about them

I also noticed that the R1R in 245/40/17 (http://marktg.toyotires.com/file/30251.pdf) had a overall inflated width of 9.8" but the tread is measured at 9.9". How can the tread width be greater than the inflated width?
Also the R1R in both 245/40/17 and 275/40/17 have the exact same tread width of 9.9". If that's not a typo it'll get banned by the SCCA.

I suspect it's a typo because tread width for:
245/45/17 = 9.3"
245/40/17 = 9.9" ????
245/35/17 = 9.4"

245/40/17 is probably just long of 9.3"

True. They are probably close to 9.6" (since 245mm = ~9.65") though. I'll measure and post once I mount them to my 17x9s.

IMHO - if the tread width for the R1R's was really 9.9" you wouldn't want to run em unless you had some pretty wide wheels.

Sorry to rain on your excitement parade but lookie what we just got in japan

http://i44.tinypic.com/n2es80.jpg

but the regular re11 are 270 dollars for 255 and these re11s-rs are 330 dollars.

So this is the super baller edition huh?? With that kind of price I would buy r-compounds.

Sorry to rain on your excitement parade but lookie what we just got in japan

http://i44.tinypic.com/n2es80.jpg

but the regular re11 are 270 dollars for 255 and these re11s-rs are 330 dollars.

I just don't understand - where is this US-Japan availability difference coming from? Isn't Bridgestone an american company or are they really japanese-owned? Is their performance division based in Japan? Is it all because of DOT testing limitations? I wouldn't think a socialist nation would have less restrictive highway product testing requirements...

Frank

Is it just me or does that tire appear to be a track type tire such as a Nitto NT-01 or Toyo R888? I don't think that's supposed to be an ST* type tire...but I could be wrong.

I just don't understand - where is this US-Japan availability difference coming from? Isn't Bridgestone an american company or are they really japanese-owned? Is their performance division based in Japan? Is it all because of DOT testing limitations? I wouldn't think a socialist nation would have less restrictive highway product testing requirements...

Frank
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridgestone

They're a Japanese company.

--kC

Is it just me or does that tire appear to be a track type tire such as a Nitto NT-01 or Toyo R888? I don't think that's supposed to be an ST* type tire...but I could be wrong.

I was wondering the same thing too. That picture doesn't look anything like the tread of the "RE011" on the Bridgestone website.

The real title is something like Potenza RE11S Type RS and may still be 140 TW or higher.

--kC

The real title is something like Potenza RE11S Type RS and may still be 140 TW or higher.

--kC

that would make sense to me. If classing is based on treadwear, why not make the lowest-void tread possible using that compound to get maximum dry performance?

bummer Goodyear is the only US tire company in the top 4 for size. all the more reason to work out some good JDM connections...

Frank

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=970625&page=27

Seems the tire wars will be fun this year. I haven't ax in a couple years due to deployments, but in 06 I ran RT615's when the AD07 and RE01R's were the tires. I ran against guys running both. I was just as fast and won the regional. So unless you are running nationals, sometimes the second or third fastest tire that is 50 bones cheaper and will wear well, might be a better choice. Just my opinion.

So unless you are running nationals, sometimes the second or third fastest tire that is 50 bones cheaper and will wear well, might be a better choice. Just my opinion.

This is very true, however many if those in this discussion are national competitors or run in regions very dominated by national competitors.

This is very true, however many if those in this discussion are national competitors or run in regions very dominated by national competitors.

Yea right! I dont know of one national competitor in the Philly, NNJR or WDC regions.
:p

I was wondering the same thing too. That picture doesn't look anything like the tread of the "RE011" on the Bridgestone website.

the 011 and the 11 are way different tyres.
the 11s looks like bridgestone's foray into baby R Comp territory vs the AO48/R888.

Yea right! I dont know of one national competitor in the Philly, NNJR or WDC regions.
:p

Nope, not at all...just a bunch of hacks really. ;)

This is very true, however many if those in this discussion are national competitors or run in regions very dominated by national competitors.

From what I've read in the STU thread, the XS are faster than SS. Soon XS vs 11 testing will be happening. Stay tuned.

Luke posted pricing here
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?p=25518459#post25518459

If that's how expensive the RE11s are, I can't wait to see the AD08 pricing :eek:

kuhmo xs or dunlop z1ss it is for me. for a set, the re11 are nearly $300 more!

although, i wonder if (and how much) re01r pricing will drop with the release of the re11. right now, the re01r is still the same price as the re11. if they go as low as the z1ss/xs, i might have to pick up a set of re01rs instead.

Personally, I would take the Dunlop SS over the RE01R for our car. I know Colin made it work well, but I still like the idea of the SS, even at the same price.

I see the re-11 in 255/35/18 will be $278, not soooo bad but still expensive. Does anyone know the section width and tread width on those yet?

although, i wonder if (and how much) re01r pricing will drop with the release of the re11. right now, the re01r is still the same price as the re11. if they go as low as the z1ss/xs, i might have to pick up a set of re01rs instead.


I thought I saw 245/40R17 RE01r for $160. I wish I bookmarked it. Need to keep searching

Luke posted pricing here
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?p=25518459#post25518459

If that's how expensive the RE11s are, I can't wait to see the AD08 pricing :eek:

That's crack prices right there.

These tires have a lot to live up to. The RE-01R wear like iron, stick like super glue, and handle track heat extremely well for a tire that isn't a DOT-R. Best street tire I've ever had.

Personally, I would take the Dunlop SS over the RE01R for our car. I know Colin made it work well, but I still like the idea of the SS, even at the same price.

I can't wait until our first event in April so I can try out the RE-11s! You guys are killing me with all this talk about racing in Feb.

-Colin

We got lucky...it was 60 degrees in Philly on Sunday. Of course, we have no tires to play with. :(

I thought I saw 245/40R17 RE01r for $160. I wish I bookmarked it. Need to keep searching


I got RE-01Rs for that price 18 months ago. Let's hope they're cheaper now.

$160 would be awesome. right now, they're $221 in 245/40/17 on tirerack.

$160 would be awesome. right now, they're $221 in 245/40/17 on tirerack.


Ahh... the ol' "See, our old tires as just as expensive! Buy the new ones!" trick.

Back when they were being kicked around by Dunlop, they had a different outlook. :lol:

Reverse psychology. ;)

just read the review of the Yokohama AD08 in this month's Modified Mag and although it was a manufacturer-sponsored event, they did get to test it head-to-head with the AD07. They felt the AD08 was clearly superior, especially in the wet, but had no actual data to back it up.

Frank

Failed

Stolen from another forum (http://sccaforums.com/forums/32/ShowForum.aspx)

Tread Pattern

Shaved to 4/32


http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showpost.php?p=25301923&postcount=60

WTLM ;)

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showpost.php?p=25301923&postcount=60

WTLM ;)
Well I feel sheepish. :sadbanana:

Well..just got the latest issue of Grassroots Motorsports...
Tire Rack's ad has Pricing for the RE-11

common Subie Sizes.
245/40/17 = $221 ea plus shipping
245/45/17 = $223 ea plus shipping
245/40/18 = $261 ea plus shipping
245/45/18 = $260 ea plus shipping

:eek: hope you guys have some deep pockets...:(

Bill

Well..just got the latest issue of Grassroots Motorsports...
Tire Rack's ad has Pricing for the RE-11

common Subie Sizes.
245/40/17 = $221 ea plus shipping
245/45/17 = $223 ea plus shipping
245/40/18 = $261 ea plus shipping
245/45/18 = $260 ea plus shipping

:eek: hope you guys have some deep pockets...:(

Bill

why is everyone b*tching about these prices? They're basically halfway between a Dunlop and a Yokohama and if they are better than both, why complain? If there's something to complain about, it's yokohama's over-the-top pricing - can't wait to see the AD08 pricing.

Because for the price gap they'd better beat the hell out of the Dunlops :)

why is everyone b*tching about these prices? They're basically halfway between a Dunlop and a Yokohama and if they are better than both, why complain? If there's something to complain about, it's yokohama's over-the-top pricing - can't wait to see the AD08 pricing.

Or try running R-comps for a season. You will never complain about street tire prices again. You go through MAYBE 2 sets of street tires a year, but people can do 1 set. I was going through at least 3 sets of Hoosiers on my S2000. It would have been more, but I just couldn't afford it.

Or try running R-comps for a season. You will never complain about street tire prices again. You go through MAYBE 2 sets of street tires a year, but people can do 1 set. I was going through at least 3 sets of Hoosiers on my S2000. It would have been more, but I just couldn't afford it.

A6's are about the same price....:unamused:..and they don't last no where near the same....Still expensive...

Bill

Magic Tires???? :rolleyes:

Or just use the Kumho's, I think they are fine for regional use and much cheaper.

review of the NT-05 for time attack:

http://www.timeattackforums.com/forums/wheels-tires/1230-review-nitto-nt05-street-class-tire.html

^^^ interesting...thanks

getum while they are hot.... (http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1706193)RE01r's CLOSEOUT

195/50R15 BS POZ RE-01R # 77.00
205/45R16 BS POZ RE-01R # 106.00
205/55R16 BS POZ RE-01R # 85.00
205/55R16 BS POZ RE-01R # 74.00
225/50R16 BS POZ RE-01R # 77.00
205/45R17 BS POZ RE-01R # 88.00
215/45R17 BS POZ RE-01R # 94.00
225/45R17 BS POZ RE-01R # 104.00
235/40R17 BS POZ RE-01R # 115.00
235/45R17 BS POZ RE-01R # 116.00
245/40R17 BS POZ RE-01R # 116.00
245/45R17 BS POZ RE-01R # 95.00
255/40R17 BS POZ RE-01R # 79.00
225/40R18 BS POZ RE-01R # 128.00
225/45R18 BS POZ RE-01R # 78.00
235/40R18 BS POZ RE-01R # 108.00
245/45R18 BS POZ RE-01R # 139.00
245/40R18 BS POZ RE-01R # 128.00
255/35R18 BS POZ RE-01R # 84.00
265/35R18 BS POZ RE-01R # 99.00
245/35R19 BS POZ RE-01R # 89.00
275/30R19 BS POZ RE-01R # 269.00


and there are a couple of sizes with 2005 production dates with even greater discounts

225/50R16 BS POZ RE-01R 2005# 59.00
245/40R17 BS POZ RE-01R 2005# 103.00
245/45R17 BS POZ RE-01R 2005# 78.00
235/40R17 BS POZ RE-01R 2005# 99.00
245/45R18 BS POZ RE-01R 2005# 119.00
245/35R19 BS POZ RE-01R 2005# 82.00

Crap.... they are already sold out of 215 or 225 17's :(

I would have jumped ship from Dunlop for those prices!

$116 for 245/40/17. Hmm, I think I'm going to pull the trigger after a bit of research on these tires vs. the Star Specs.

EDIT: Trigger pulled. For $200 less for 4 tires, it was a no brainer. :banana:

coool..I just pulled the trigger on some 235/40/17's...but my wife is gonna kill me..;)

Bill

$116 for 245/40/17. Hmm, I think I'm going to pull the trigger after a bit of research on these tires vs. the Star Specs.

EDIT: Trigger pulled. For $200 less for 4 tires, it was a no brainer. :banana:

same for me

the price is a selling point

FWIW dunlop is offering a $50 rebate on the z1 ss. I'm looking at 235/40/17 as well and the difference only comes out to be $70.

For that price difference I'd rather go with the dunlops.

coool..I just pulled the trigger on some 235/40/17's...but my wife is gonna kill me..;)

Bill

Nice! My wallet's going to kill me. At least it won't make me sleep on the couch. :alien:

coool..I just pulled the trigger on some 235/40/17's...but my wife is gonna kill me..;)

Bill

:lol:


I ordered some 245/40/17s... should make a decent rain tire.

damnit missed the 245/40/18's :(

debating on getting 245/45/17's and running 17's for autocross instead... tire calc shows them being pretty close in overall outer diameter.

edit: anyone know of other places doing closeout pricing on them other than tire rack?

Thanks for the update, those a great prices! That would be a great buy for use as a DD tire on a road-going machine!

They are out of 225/50-16's, just to let you know :(

Ordered a set of 205/55-16's, they can go on either of our cars as a performance street tire or occasional autocrosser....nice to have the option, most other street (non-racing, non-ST) tires are $100+ each. These were $85, not bad!

:lol:


I ordered some 245/40/17s... should make a decent rain tire.

Ha. they're my rain setup too =) But mine are a few years old.

They are out of 225/50-16's, just to let you know :(

Ordered a set of 205/55-16's, they can go on either of our cars as a performance street tire or occasional autocrosser....nice to have the option, most other street (non-racing, non-ST) tires are $100+ each. These were $85, not bad!

Actually, if you call Luke he'll hook you up. A friend of mine was trying for the same size and said the website said they were gone. I called Luke and he said they would have plenty in soon.

They are out of 225/50-16's, just to let you know :(

Ordered a set of 205/55-16's, they can go on either of our cars as a performance street tire or occasional autocrosser....nice to have the option, most other street (non-racing, non-ST) tires are $100+ each. These were $85, not bad!



Actually, if you call Luke he'll hook you up. A friend of mine was trying for the same size and said the website said they were gone. I called Luke and he said they would have plenty in soon.


What I just did for my order :banana:

Actually, if you call Luke he'll hook you up. A friend of mine was trying for the same size and said the website said they were gone. I called Luke and he said they would have plenty in soon.

yep my rep says Mar 6th will get a re-supply but these are it...have a bunch of 255/40/17's on order...(16)

might want to call them back and confirm ..and then change your order..:)

Bill

yep my rep says Mar 6th will get a re-supply but these are it...have a bunch of 255/40/17's on order...(16)

might want to call them back and confirm ..and then change your order..:)

Bill

That's pretty much what I heard. Tires get in first week of March, then go out to us. To bad they didn't have a 275/40/17. I would have been interested in that:p

Hmmmm maybe I should call them back. I really wanted the 225's, and can definitely wait.

EDIT-- Updated. 225's are now coming my way whenever they arrive; I got the older date to save a few bucks, these will be street tires anyway. Sweeeeeet.

215/45/17 popped up this morning, just pulled the trigger :)

1 set of 255/40/17
1 set of 255/35/18

i am :D

I snapped up a set of 225/45/17's this morning.

215/45/17 popped up this morning, just pulled the trigger :)

Ahh they restocked!

Looks like Andy's up to his old tricks again. Unfortunately, no NT05 or AD08...and testing on a car half the weight of the typical STX/STU car. Oh well, some data is better than no data. Hopefully he'll start testing these soon.

http://sccaforums.com/forums/storage/32/347415/small.JPG

what are the second and 4th tires from the left? All are shaved, no? looking forward to the results regardless!

Left to right...

Bridgestone RE-01R
Kumho Ecsta XS
Toyo Proxes R1R
Bridgestone RE-11

Looks like Andy's up to his old tricks again. Unfortunately, no NT05 or AD08...and testing on a car half the weight of the typical STX/STU car. Oh well, some data is better than no data. Hopefully he'll start testing these soon.

http://sccaforums.com/forums/storage/32/347415/small.JPG

Left to right...

Bridgestone RE-01R
Kumho Ecsta XS
Toyo Proxes R1R
Bridgestone RE-11

So we know what's going on. :)

Got a set of 255/40/17 for 378 shipped today. :D

Got a set of 255/40/17 for 378 shipped today. :D

What?! All four shipped for that? Where?

Seriously, that's ridic. My 245/40/17s were like $500 shipped with the Tire Rack sale. Granted, I can't run 255 because I'm in STU, but still...

Looks like Andy's up to his old tricks again. Unfortunately, no NT05 or AD08...and testing on a car half the weight of the typical STX/STU car. Oh well, some data is better than no data. Hopefully he'll start testing these soon.

http://sccaforums.com/forums/storage/32/347415/small.JPG

I must say, the RE-11 look fast.

Josh, post that over on the Philly forum.

What?! All four shipped for that? Where?


yep 255-40-17 re01R's shipped to south carolina

yep 255-40-17 re01R's shipped to south carolina


AHHH I thought you meant the new one RE11... I took advantage of that sale too on the RE01Rs.. thanks!

yep 255-40-17 re01R's shipped to south carolina

I paid 360 for the 225/50/16, you got a deal Mike

AHHH I thought you meant the new one RE11... I took advantage of that sale too on the RE01Rs.. thanks!


sorry this is the re11 thread:) but with re01r's this cheap ....
Hey Dave! Boy I bet you've been having AX withdraw's....we might need to get you on that A&E show intervention. Whens your first SCR event this year?

I paid 360 for the 225/50/16, you got a deal Mike

I paid $296 shipped, but I got the old '05 dates as they won't be autocross tires...still, that's cheap for daily driver rubber!

James, did you know before hand that you were getting old stock?
you missed a fun weekend at el torro, are you comming out for the PRO ?

^^^^Yes, I asked for them to get the discount...I'll save a few $$ any way I can. Hell, I was undefeated in like 8 races in SK2 in SoCal on a burned-up old 30,000-mile set of Hankook RS-2's, how bad can these RE01R's be? haha

No Pro for me, too $$$$$$$$$$$$ to travel out there so soon after Dixie, and I don't think anyone would let me drive their car.

DAmn that tire rack sale is killing me,
I bought my 01-R's 4 months ago at full price ($160.00/ea., just put them on the car about 3 weeks ago after i completed my swap.
Now they are 88.00 each.......heart burn.

I know what you mean. Once I dump money on something, I try to not look at it ever again as the heartbreak can be unbearable to find the price drop.

anyone need some shaved 245/40/17s? i got a couple extra sets in the garage. pm me.

Oh now you tell me. :lol: :unamused:

anyone need some shaved 245/40/17s? i got a couple extra sets in the garage. pm me. If those are shaved RE-11's I'll take a set.

Just thought I would post some pictures since I got some tires today. The RE-11s are unmounted and the RE-01Rs are mounted on 9" wheels, so they are stretched slightly. It looks like the tires are about the same width.

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb157/pinkertonpunk/RE-11/DSC_6961.jpg
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb157/pinkertonpunk/RE-11/DSC_6964.jpg
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb157/pinkertonpunk/RE-11/DSC_6965.jpg

-Colin

Sexy pictures. And not of your wife! :)

Tire fairy showed up today.

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/RE-11%20Bridgestone/IMG_1515_new.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/RE-11%20Bridgestone/IMG_1520_new.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/RE-11%20Bridgestone/IMG_1521_new.jpg

Shaved to 4/32's. Tread width of tire size 245/40 17 measured at 8 7/8" which is ~225mm

thanks for posting on how skinny they are actually running.

The tread widths were posted on TireRack at one point. Size for size they were the same as the RE01rs.

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/RE-11%20Bridgestone/IMG_1520_new.jpg

Shaved to 4/32's. Tread width of tire size 245/40 17 measured at 8 7/8" which is ~225mm

Doesn't look like you are measuring the full width if the tire, just the tread. I can't imagine Bridgestone would be selling "skinny" tires and still be competitive.

Doesn't look like you are measuring the full width if the tire, just the tread. I can't imagine Bridgestone would be selling "skinny" tires and still be competitive.
I measured the 'shaved' section of the tread. The clean rubber section removed by the shaving blade.

The picture is deceiving because of parallax (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallax). That is: I couldn't move the camera out to infinity and zoom in to get around this issue. They're being mounted right now. I'll take more pictures tomorrow when I get them back.

Doesn't look like you are measuring the full width if the tire, just the tread. I can't imagine Bridgestone would be selling "skinny" tires and still be competitive.

They're not very narrow at all. I have a shaved set of 245/40/17 on my 17x8 RPF1s and they are easily as wide or wider than McCance's Dunlops on the same wheels from last year.

I'm looking forward to getting them out on the course, but so far the sidewalls feel quite stiff.

Q: The atheist's favorite character from the bible is whom?
A: Thomas. Doubting Thomas.

Okay you Doubting Thomases:

My Bridgestone RE-11 in 245/40 17 tires on Enkei RPF1 17x8 wheels.

Pictures accounting for parallax, notice the tire in the foreground and the gloves in the background.

Shaved tread width measured at 8 7/8"; ~ 225mm.

Measure started from leftmost portion of shaved area:
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/RE-11%20Bridgestone/IMG_1532.jpg

Photo shot about mid-tread:
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/RE-11%20Bridgestone/IMG_1533.jpg

Measure ended at rightmost portion of shaved area:
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/RE-11%20Bridgestone/IMG_1534.jpg

Set up to take photo:
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/RE-11%20Bridgestone/IMG_1535.jpg

And because I care about you, dear internet: Section width of a Bridgestone RE-11 in 245/40 17 tires @ 34 psi on Enkei RPF1 17x8 wheels is 9 3/8" ~ 238.1 mm. 9 1/2" - 1/8" = 9 3/8". I'm positive if one mounted these on 17x9 wheels, one would gain additional section width.

Leftside:
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/RE-11%20Bridgestone/IMG_1536.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/RE-11%20Bridgestone/IMG_1539.jpg

Rightside:
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/RE-11%20Bridgestone/IMG_1537.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/RE-11%20Bridgestone/IMG_1538.jpg

Set up to take photo:
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/RE-11%20Bridgestone/IMG_1540.jpg

Boosh!

I wish Dunlop published their information...

Hey Caddy, who shaved your tires?

Hey Caddy, who shaved your tires?

The boys at the tire rack.

I just got a rear set of these for my elise. I had a practiclly brand new pair of re-01s on the front that I didnt have the heart to discard. My initial response is one of disapointment. The rear of the car feels "squishy" and disconnected now. I havent autocrossed on them or messed with pressure but they feel way different than the re01s did. I knew mixing re01rs on the front and these on the back wasent a great idea. However, seeing as they seem like 2 totally different tires I am guessing it was a terrible Idea....

I just got a rear set of these for my elise. I had a practiclly brand new pair of re-01s on the front that I didnt have the heart to discard. My initial response is one of disapointment. The rear of the car feels "squishy" and disconnected now. I havent autocrossed on them or messed with pressure but they feel way different than the re01s did. I knew mixing re01rs on the front and these on the back wasent a great idea. However, seeing as they seem like 2 totally different tires I am guessing it was a terrible Idea....

Where the new tires shaved? If not it could just be the tread squirm of the new tires with thick tread.

I just got a rear set of these for my elise. I had a practiclly brand new pair of re-01s on the front that I didnt have the heart to discard. My initial response is one of disapointment. The rear of the car feels "squishy" and disconnected now. I havent autocrossed on them or messed with pressure but they feel way different than the re01s did. I knew mixing re01rs on the front and these on the back wasent a great idea. However, seeing as they seem like 2 totally different tires I am guessing it was a terrible Idea....

Dubl-A, the initial take on the re11's I heard was "even softer sidwalls than re01's"... hmm. :unamused:

Side note: Martin got a set of the Kumho XS's, said the sidewalls are just as floppy, but he loves the lateral grip, though hates the longitudinal grip (under braking, says they just don't got the beef vs dunlops).

So, you want the stiffness, gotta go with Dunlops, Advans (new neovas supposedly are still pretty stiff), .... or Viagra... :D