ok so i want to get h.i.ds but what im not sure about is if the daylight running lights are the same as the lights when i turn the headlights on or are they different?

my car is a 2002 wrx

....I would suggest reading the following article before considering the installation of an aftermarket HID "kit" in a halogen application:

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/Hid/conversions/conversions.html

You may also want to do a search on "retrofits". There are several fellow "bugeye" members who have successfully installed HID projectors in their OEM '02/'03 housings. ....or you can have someone like Lightwerks do the retrofit for you. .....a bit expensive but it's the price you pay for doing it right.

If this none of this sounds like an attractive option, consider some of the newer high efficacy halogen bulbs that are available. The Osram Nightbreaker +90 & Philips X-Treme Power +80 are just a couple of examples of high performance bulbs for our application. ....and they won't break the bank (~$35 - $40 a pair).

Read this as well.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1670587&highlight=handsdown


If you want HIDs in your car you have two options.

1. Buy a plug and play kit, have terrible light output, blind everyone, have all kinds of reliability problems, either have no high beam or have even worse high beam light output than your low beams, etc.

2. Do a retrofit or pay someone to do it for you, and have good HID lights.

In case you didn't get that, 1. is bad, 2. is good but could be more expensive if you don't do it yourself.

You could always just get good halogen bulbs for under $35 and be done with it.

ok so the plug an plays are horrible? and i looked at the lightwerkz kits and they look nice but i dont think the blackhousing will look good on my car you know?

yes, plug and plays are horrible. especially on an 02.

ok so the plug an plays are horrible? ....in general, yes. ....but don't take our word for it. Read the links provided to fully understand why.

ehh its okay i bought an accessport v2 instead :banana:

ehh its okay i bought an accessport v2 instead :banana: ....naw. You don't want that. ....I'll take it off your hands for $300 though. ;)

lol ill pass, i did get it for 400 though. not the best deal but its still a good price for it

the ballast will power the lights whenever it has the current to do so.

the DRL will have enough power to fire the ballast without enough current to keep from damaging the hid system or headlamp wiring. result is an electrical fire or lights that won't ever work again if you're lucky.

or they'll fire a relay harness if you have one, but it's still going to make your output dangerous and worse off than OEM.

lol ill pass, i did get it for 400 though. not the best deal but its still a good price for it ....certainly is. Beats the full retail price.

the ballast will power the lights whenever it has the current to do so.

the DRL will have enough power to fire the ballast without enough current to keep from damaging the hid system or headlamp wiring. result is an electrical fire or lights that won't ever work again if you're lucky.

or they'll fire a relay harness if you have one, but it's still going to make your output dangerous and worse off than OEM.

yeah if i was gonna get them then i would have deleted the DRL. but thanks for the advice

....certainly is. Beats the full retail price.

yeah its pretty much 300 less than that. cant complain.

....I would suggest reading the following article before considering the installation of an aftermarket HID "kit" in a halogen application:

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/Hid/conversions/conversions.html

You may also want to do a search on "retrofits". There are several fellow "bugeye" members who have successfully installed HID projectors in their OEM '02/'03 housings. ....or you can have someone like Lightwerks do the retrofit for you. .....a bit expensive but it's the price you pay for doing it right.

If this none of this sounds like an attractive option, consider some of the newer high efficacy halogen bulbs that are available. The Osram Nightbreaker +90 & Philips X-Treme Power +80 are just a couple of examples of high performance bulbs for our application. ....and they won't break the bank (~$35 - $40 a pair).

ok now which ones would i get for my car? i thought the lights were 9007? but these only come in the h7 and such

I have a set of H4 Nightbreaker +90s. They were amazing when I first got them but they have dimmed over time and now are not that great. The +50 bulbs are not as bad about dimming. Plus the +90s are not that much of an improvement over the +50 bulbs. Next time I get a set of halogens. I think I'll end up going with a good +50. Suvlights has Philips Visionplus +50's on sale right now.

http://www.suvlights.com/product_info.php?products_id=99

This is what I would get. The other thing you could do is make or buy a relay harness for them. Check out the bugeye lighting bliss thread. There is all kinds of good information in there.