I finally got to take my WRX to the strip and I am a bit disapointed. I could only manage 14.5 at 92mph. I have a TXS turbo back exhuast and K&N filter on the car. All of these mags are ripping off these times with the stock car. What gives. I was not afraid to let the thing fly. After a couple of runs I let it rip and launched at about 4500rpm and slipped the clutch a bit (tires did spin some) and I had a 1.92 60ft time, but the car seemed to die for a second when I shifted into second gear. It bogged down some then took off. Am I not making the 1st to 2nd shift right? Should I slip that a bit too (I was slamming the gear). I am waiting for the unichip to come in from TXS and I am hoping that this will help get the car into the 13's. What is everone elses experience with the stage II setup. Am I not doing something right here? I thought that I would fair better at the track. I case you are going to ask? It was about 50 degrees outside and at night. so it was a cool night. Let me know what is going on!!!!

My best so far with a Vish-XS stage 0.2 :D is a 13.52@99 with a 1.87 60'. Mods are:

Blitz SBC-ID set @ 16.5
TurboXS Turboback
Unichip (Currently using TXS's Stage II Map)
TurboXS Type H BOV
Vishnu Uppipe
Vishnu Pulley
Colder plugs (whatever came with Stage 0)

This was rolling on Subzero's with 225/45/17 Azenis. After the Turboback was installed, I get a little wheelspin at the launch. Currently launching at 5K with slip and shifting @ redline in every gear (crossing the timer in 4th). Still working on the launch though. I think an MBC would probably be worth a couple tenths from what I hear.

Ryan

something is wrong. Where were you shifting. The best stock time people have posted is 14.1. My person time was 14.3@94.X with a 2.0 60' time. I obviously didn't know how to launch then. People have run 13's with just exhaust. I ran consistant 13.8@96-97mph with just mbc (1.8 60').

Your 60' is decent, the only thing I can think of is you are shifting too soon. Your mph is way low.

I am shifting at 6500 to 6700rpms and I have even let it go to redline a couple of times? I am not sure what is going on. I thought that it seemed a bit on the slower side. All of the dyno results that I have seen shows the power of the WRX dying off at about 6200rpm should I shift then? It is very frustrating. I thought that I should see more results? Something has to be wrong? It just doesn't seem to really pull right away in second, could I be banging the clutch to much and let it slip more? I am confused. Help!!!!!!!!!!!

keep practicing. you can't just read 100 posts on how to drive fast and expect 14 second 1/4 mile times. practice helps a lot. also, try to keep less than 1/2 tank of gas in your car.

im stock and running 14.5 with a 2.0 60ft time, given it was my first time ever out to a drag strip and i could probably get it down even further

this is what I am talking about. This is not the first time that I have been to the track. I used to take my mustang there. So I am not that new at it. Just new with this car. I am not sure what is going onmaybe it is the track that I am running at? it is up in the mountains a bit, but I am unsure of the altitude? Would this effect it dramaticly? What about the fact that I did this with a set of 18's on the car. I know that everyone says to run the stock ones when you race. But I would like to have a good looking fast car not just a fast car. I am going to go again in about 2 weeks and I think that I will put the stock wheels on to see if there is a big difference. Hopefully I will have the rest of the stage II kit by then as well. keep the info coming it might not help but it is interesting to see what you guys are running and how my car compares:confused:

dont' feel bad. I only managed a 14.5 @ 90something. But I still only have under 3k miles. ;)

Originally posted by WHAT
I finally got to take my WRX to the strip and I am a bit disapointed. I could only manage 14.5 at 92mph. I have a TXS turbo back exhuast and K&N filter on the car. All of these mags are ripping off these times with the stock car. What gives. I was not afraid to let the thing fly. After a couple of runs I let it rip and launched at about 4500rpm and slipped the clutch a bit (tires did spin some) and I had a 1.92 60ft time, but the car seemed to die for a second when I shifted into second gear. It bogged down some then took off. Am I not making the 1st to 2nd shift right? Should I slip that a bit too (I was slamming the gear). I am waiting for the unichip to come in from TXS and I am hoping that this will help get the car into the 13's. What is everone elses experience with the stage II setup. Am I not doing something right here? I thought that I would fair better at the track. I case you are going to ask? It was about 50 degrees outside and at night. so it was a cool night. Let me know what is going on!!!!

Very simple. You are not getting a good launch. I know its hard to believe but you are giving up about 3 tenths and 2-3 mph with your slow launch. I am not bagging on you and you did very well for racing that car for the first time. I did worse my first time out.

The only way I have ever found to get 1.7 and 1.8 60 ft times is to hold at 3000 rpm. Then floor it at the second yellow. When the tach hits 5500 rpm let the clutch go. Dont pop it. Just let your foot straight up off of it. You should not get any clutch slip. You should get some front wheelspin. Hold it WOT till 7000 and the go for second.

I bet 3-4 more runs with this launch will get your 14.0-14.2

HTH

CT

Originally posted by AZScoobie


Very simple. You are not getting a good launch. I know its hard to believe but you are giving up about 3 tenths and 2-3 mph with your slow launch. I am not bagging on you and you did very well for racing that car for the first time. I did worse my first time out.

The only way I have ever found to get 1.7 and 1.8 60 ft times is to hold at 3000 rpm. Then floor it at the second yellow. When the tach hits 5500 rpm let the clutch go. Dont pop it. Just let your foot straight up off of it. You should not get any clutch slip. You should get some front wheelspin. Hold it WOT till 7000 and the go for second.

I bet 3-4 more runs with this launch will get your 14.0-14.2

HTH

CT I concur 100% with this method

The problem of course is that the stock clutches only last so long with this method when you start making over 300 wheel hp - - - don't even try one of the aftermaket clutches - I tried 3 of them and the stock one was the best for drag racing - - like I said trouble is that after a few passes it can start to let go and slip when you slam it hard

Originally posted by alfriedesq
I concur 100% with this method

The problem of course is that the stock clutches only last so long with this method when you start making over 300 wheel hp - - - don't even try one of the aftermaket clutches - I tried 3 of them and the stock one was the best for drag racing - - like I said trouble is that after a few passes it can start to let go and slip when you slam it hard

Agrees that the aformentioned method will eat the stock clutch quickly ( it did it to my RS) but the bit about the stocker being the best clutch..... thats silly.

-DE

Exedy/ACT/JUN hybrid setup. and loves every minute.

Oh P.S. My RS ran an altitude corrected 14.8 @ LACR. N/A. to stay on topic.

Originally posted by DoomEquation


Agrees that the aformentioned method will eat the stock clutch quickly ( it did it to my RS) but the bit about the stocker being the best clutch..... thats silly.

-DE

Exedy/ACT/JUN hybrid setup. and loves every minute.

Oh P.S. My RS ran an altitude corrected 14.8 @ LACR. N/A. to stay on topic.


All I can say is that I have about 110 passes on my stock trans and stock Clutch making good power and all of my launches where like I describe. I dont slip the clutch and since I do not slip the clutch it does not get glazed and therefore slip like on your car. Slip the clutch and it will go bye bye in a hurry.

CT

i ran a 13.892@99.41 2.024 60ft this was with boost at 13.5 i have a txs mbc and vishnu uppipe. hoping to hit 13.6 this weekend:D

Originally posted by AZScoobie



All I can say is that I have about 110 passes on my stock trans and stock Clutch making good power and all of my launches where like I describe. I dont slip the clutch and since I do not slip the clutch it does not get glazed and therefore slip like on your car. Slip the clutch and it will go bye bye in a hurry.

CT

thats funny. I have always slipped my clutch and made decent 60 fts and probably as many as 70+ passes. I am still on the stock clutch.

Originally posted by evorace1


thats funny. I have always slipped my clutch and made decent 60 fts and probably as many as 70+ passes. I am still on the stock clutch. I am amazed - - espcially with that sick power you have - - I used to spin the cluth many times if i hit it hard !- - even stock I spun the clutch once ! Whats you build date - I heard th upgraded the clutch mid year

Originally posted by AZScoobie
The only way I have ever found to get 1.7 and 1.8 60 ft times is to hold at 3000 rpm. Then floor it at the second yellow. When the tach hits 5500 rpm let the clutch go. Dont pop it. Just let your foot straight up off of it. You should not get any clutch slip. You should get some front wheelspin. Hold it WOT till 7000 and the go for second.
CT

that's exactly how I launch. Not only do I get 1.8's but I get them consistanly. I can run 1.8's like 10 times in a row.

Also, your mph is so low because, as I guessed, you were shifting too early. Shift at redline and then tell us how you do. You should get 13.9-14.1 with your mods.

-C

I am going to have to give the suggestions a try and see what happens the next time that I make it to the track. Last night I just received the rest of the stage II kit in the mail. (unichip - mbc) I am planning on installing them over the weekend and then to the track I will go. So no one thinks that the 18in rims has anything to do with it? I was looking at some of the other threads and they seem to put down the larger rims when it comes to going to the strip. The next trip that I make to the drag strip I am going to let the clutch fly and redline on all of the shifts to see what I get..... Thanks for the help guys. I will let you know what times I get!!!:D Still would like to see what everyone is running. I get a kick out of these little 4 cyl and the way that they knock down most of the newer v8's.

overinflate your tires a little (40psi), that seems to help (me at least).

Originally posted by WHAT
I am shifting at 6500 to 6700rpms and I have even let it go to redline a couple of times? I am not sure what is going on. I thought that it seemed a bit on the slower side. All of the dyno results that I have seen shows the power of the WRX dying off at about 6200rpm should I shift then? It is very frustrating. I thought that I should see more results? Something has to be wrong? It just doesn't seem to really pull right away in second, could I be banging the clutch to much and let it slip more? I am confused. Help!!!!!!!!!!!

Everyone seems to have their own idea of the best shift points. Me included. My personal experience is to shift right at 7000 rpms for the best times. I tried shifting at 6500 rpms and lost .2-.3 tenths in the 1/4 mile. My car runs best at 7000 rpm shifts.
I ran 13.3 @ 101 with Turboxs stage 2 set up shifting at redline in all gears. Thats with 17'' prodrives 21.5 lbs wheels.

Originally posted by WHAT
I am going to have to give the suggestions a try and see what happens the next time that I make it to the track. Last night I just received the rest of the stage II kit in the mail. (unichip - mbc) I am planning on installing them over the weekend and then to the track I will go. So no one thinks that the 18in rims has anything to do with it? I was looking at some of the other threads and they seem to put down the larger rims when it comes to going to the strip. The next trip that I make to the drag strip I am going to let the clutch fly and redline on all of the shifts to see what I get..... Thanks for the help guys. I will let you know what times I get!!!:D Still would like to see what everyone is running. I get a kick out of these little 4 cyl and the way that they knock down most of the newer v8's.


Use the strip to your advantage. Make a few more passes with our recomendations and then install the unichip at the track. It only takes 10 minutes. Then tell us if you speed up or not. Thats the only way you will know if it helps. Or Make some passes with it and then pull it out.

The 18's will slow you down. I have 18 inch wheels/tires that are 39lbs total while the stock wheels are 40 lbs total. I loose 2 tenths and 2mph on avg if I run the 18's. They are the same overall size and they are lighter but they still slow me down. The weight is more towards the outside edge of the rotating wheel and they are harder to get moving. If you have your stockers you will will drop down.

HTH

CT

Originally posted by AZScoobie



Use the strip to your advantage. Make a few more passes with our recomendations and then install the unichip at the track. It only takes 10 minutes. Then tell us if you speed up or not. Thats the only way you will know if it helps. Or Make some passes with it and then pull it out.

The 18's will slow you down. I have 18 inch wheels/tires that are 39lbs total while the stock wheels are 40 lbs total. I loose 2 tenths and 2mph on avg if I run the 18's. They are the same overall size and they are lighter but they still slow me down. The weight is more towards the outside edge of the rotating wheel and they are harder to get moving. If you have your stockers you will will drop down.

HTH


CT

But I bet those 18'' look nice. I would gladly trade .2 tenths for some nice looking wheels.:D

Practice is a big part of it. Don't be disappointed if you're time is a little higher than other i-clubbers and it's your first time. It's just a matter of being familiar with the whole process and learning the best way to launch. I found it helpful on one of the better runs I did to play make believe and pretend the the 12 second 'vette in the lane to the left of me didn't exist.

When I went for the first time ever not too long ago, I pulled a 13.6 with a 2 flat 60 ft time as my best run with half a tank of gas and Vishnu Stage 0. Some of the runs before that were just too embarassing to post, and would show how much of a newb dragger I am. Basically I sucked, and will know what to do better next time.

I'm gonna try the method prescribed by AZScoobie and see if I can shave .2 off that 60 ft time and hopefully pull a 13.4. If it kills the clutch quicker then o well... I guess it will be time for a lightened flywheel to go in while things are apart in my driveway.

Also, I seemed to do best when I spent as little time in 4th gear as possible (shift near redline in 1 - 3). 4th gear kind of blows, and might as well be overdrive #2 in the WRX. If 4th gear was a woman if would be Oprah Winfrey.

Sounds like a pretty mean minivan :eek:

My best time is a 13.8 at 96 mph with a 1.9 60ft. The 60ft could be better but I am working on it. mods are

Greddy cat back
mbc boost at 15.5
water spray kit

I ran a 14.3@94.xx mph... Mods were 5zigen catback, injen intake... BUT... I ran on 225/40/18's... Next run shooting for 13.9 with an evcIV and the stocks...Is it possible?

id say its possible,i ran a 14.05 gtech with my 18s @21lbs perwheel went to the track with stocks ran a 13.8 at 13.5 psi mbc and uppipe is all i have.gtech was at nite track was middle of the day 75 out. yeah you can do it,:D

I just tried AZScoobie's launch method on the street at a red light over lunch. INSANE! Fastest I've ever been to 30mph in my life (shut down at redline, no need to go further). Thank you, AZ!

Originally posted by Noize
I just tried AZScoobie's launch method on the street at a red light over lunch. INSANE! Fastest I've ever been to 30mph in my life (shut down at redline, no need to go further). Thank you, AZ!


Cool. Glad it helped. You can experiment with the rpm you let the clutch out. I use 5500 rpm or there abouts. If I go higher I just get wheel spin and I bang the limiter through first gear. 4000 I bog since this big turbo has little boost in that range. Also experiment with how hard you let the clutch out. I found that I dont need to dump. Just pull your foot straight up off of it.

HTH

CT

http://www.turbovan.net/van.html You want to see a mean minivan click on this.

Originally posted by Suby follower
http://www.turbovan.net/van.html You want to see a mean minivan click on this. Damn, that's an impressive van:eek:

14.8 Bone Stock wrxwagon-- First dragrace! (like mary katherine galleger on snl)
"It was a hot and humid day in Baton Rouge, LA"
I think it will go faster in cooler weather.

Dont feel bad at all. I have raced alot in the past but this was my first time to the track in over 3yrs. My first 5 passes I couldn't even break into the 14's! I even managed to bang out a 16.00 run. :mad: I just went for the first time with the rex on saturday. Though my car only has 2,100 miles on it (stock x-cept the silencer mod) I still was dissapointed. On my 6th run I got a little better and ran a 14.61 @ 92.52 mph (my best all day). I made about 10 more passes and all were in the 14.6-14.8 range. One thing I did discover on the 7th or 8th run was my boost was all over the place. Anywhere from 7-12 psi in 1st to 10-15 psi in 3rd. That must have added to my poor times. It was very damp all day as well (on and off rain showers). Another thing was my 60' times. They were pritty bad. On my best run (listed above) I did manage a 2.091 60' with a 1/8mi of 9.382 @73.92mph but that is not too good. I am gonna try the boost monkey and get it set up before I go again. Well gotta go work on those launches. :D

AZscoobie - Thanks for the advice. I went to the 1/4 mile strip for my first time ever a few weekends ago. And, shall we say, I did terrible, but I had a lot of fun doing it. At present, I've got a 12 second car, but I'm just a 14 second driver. Gotta work on that! One of the guys took a video of one of my runs. Posted it on TXIC, so I downloaded it and, wow, it looks like I'm practically just sitting there at the beginning. I'm looking forward to getting back to the strip and improving my times. GoodFinder :)

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"The only way I have ever found to get 1.7 and 1.8 60 ft times is to hold at 3000 rpm. Then floor it at the second yellow. When the tach hits 5500 rpm let the clutch go. Dont pop it. Just let your foot straight up off of it. You should not get any clutch slip. You should get some front wheelspin. Hold it WOT till 7000 and the go for second."

Originally posted by AZScoobie


Very simple. You are not getting a good launch. I know its hard to believe but you are giving up about 3 tenths and 2-3 mph with your slow launch. I am not bagging on you and you did very well for racing that car for the first time. I did worse my first time out.

The only way I have ever found to get 1.7 and 1.8 60 ft times is to hold at 3000 rpm. Then floor it at the second yellow. When the tach hits 5500 rpm let the clutch go. Dont pop it. Just let your foot straight up off of it. You should not get any clutch slip. You should get some front wheelspin. Hold it WOT till 7000 and the go for second.

I bet 3-4 more runs with this launch will get your 14.0-14.2

HTH

CT

That's the way I launch and I got a 13.93@99.78 with an HKS EVC EZ and an AEM cold air intake. My 60' 2.22 but I have posted as low as 1.919. As fear as wear on the clutch mine suffers no ill effect.

Very slow 60' time, but you are making very good power for your mods. Right at 100mph trap with just a boost controller and intake...what boost/fuel were you running?

VV

Originally posted by DEREK HOWARD
....13.93@99.78 .....

went to the track for second time and managed a 13.65 @99.51 with a 1.9 60ft,mods uppipe mbc @15. iam pretty pleased with the result just gotta get that 60ft a little lower:D i just love this car:)

what i'd like to know is... what gear are you guys with the 13's finishing in?? i am always debating whether or not to shift into 4th. bumping off the rev-limiter in 3rd is sooo close to the line, but the top speed of 3rd is < 100 :confused:

Bob

i have an injen cai, hpracing exhaust, turboXs type-H bov and a txs MBC set at 15.5 and run 1/4s at 13.046@108 per hour
im finishing in 4th

Finishing 4th in what?

You ran 108mph....at a drag strip (i.e. not a gtech)? What was your 60' times? Most running ultra low 13s are trapping around 102. 108 is very strong for stock turbo IMO.

VV

Originally posted by hpracingwrx
i have an injen cai, hpracing exhaust, turboXs type-H bov and a txs MBC set at 15.5 and run 1/4s at 13.046@108 per hour
im finishing in 4th

Originally posted by VetteVert
Finishing 4th in what?

You ran 108mph....at a drag strip (i.e. not a gtech)? What was your 60' times? Most running ultra low 13s are trapping around 102. 108 is very strong for stock turbo IMO.

VV





If the car is the stock 3000 lbs then you would need at least 350 crank hp to run 108 mph. The stock turbo cant flow 350hp. Something else has been changed, Weight, Gearing, or a leaf blew in front of the beams.

CT

Well, I finally managed to get some numbers for my pure STOCK WeRX.

3 passes, one 14.44, one 15.whatever ( :rolleyes: ) and one 14.38. It was about 23-24 degrees with some decent humidity in the air.

Very happy with my first stock results, I know I can muster a 14.2 in there with good conditions, I can't even imagine what excellent conditions could give me (extra dry with 5 degrees or so... still need some traction you know :lol: ) I was afraid I'd be one of the "slower" WRXs after hearing so many different times for the stock trim; high 14's HELL NO!

guys with stock cars, post you milage on the car at the time of the run also, i have heard that these cars open up a lot with more miles. (like 170whp off the lot and 190whp at 25k).

i dont have anything to back this up other than some rumors and a dyno day at cobb where a car with cat back+ K&N @5000miles made as much whp as a stock(sti tranny+motor mounts) @20,000 miles i do think this has a lot to do with it.

I am finishing in 4th trapping around 99 it just seems a little far to me for third gear

Well, ma baby's birthday is coming quick; 20000km tomorrow...
Dunno if I should consider it a bad thing or a good thing, about 10 months old.