Saw it last night and figured I'd blow the lid off since I was a witness ;)

I know he's still on the stock block, trans, clutch and runnin' a VF-30. Beyond that he can give the details.

Congrats again to TXS on what I'm pretty sure is the new record.

-Jonathan

Wow, that's fast for a 4-cylinder!

Eric

Cool!!

You just missed an 11 sec pass by a whisker. Makes you want to cry when you get that close.

Very good times, can't wait for details or better yet another run this week end.

Larry

dub post

I get the feeling Phil will be avoiding the ego-forum for the most part from now on. hehe. maybe I'm wrong though...

he dropped .3 or so off his previous best, no?

I would love to see the breakdown on that time slip...
60ft time must have been low and WOW 117MPH!!!...can ya help us out Phil:)

:eek:

Congrats to Phil @ TXS for the super fast time!

I wonder what his 60ft was. :eek:

Whoa, awesome times!! Makes me wish my damn 2003 would show up already!

While i didn't see the run in question and i doubt that he had anywhere as good of a 60 foot on this run, i know he hit a 1.64 60 foot on his 3rd run of the night, but the run didn't go as planned and it was downhill from there.

-Nathan
www.turboxs.com

Wow, 117 mph.

Nice :)

Bill

Congrats!... Now details please! :)

Originally posted by In2Deep
Congrats!... Now details please! :)
Yep, I'm tired of waiting. What ever happened to posting the results the night you run it? :)

My guess is nitrous because isn't that 10mph more than before (And I don't see him squeezing 100more hp out of his already awesome setup).

Details!

Originally posted by TypeC

Yep, I'm tired of waiting. What ever happened to posting the results the night you run it? :)

My guess is nitrous because isn't that 10mph more than before (And I don't see him squeezing 100more hp out of his already awesome setup).

Details!

We are not giving details for several reasons;

1. We were using these runs to develop 2 new products comming from turboxs that frankly we are not ready to talk about on a public BBS just yet.

With the recent dyno results and 1/4 mile times we've seen both seem to be working quite well, as noted this is about 8-9mph up from Phil's best.

2. We are trying to avoid the the whole "it can't be done because of (plug your own math in here)."

In any case great job Phil!

-Nathan

WOW, missed the 11's by a **** hair...

I can't wait to hear about the new products,

Good Luck!

Originally posted by nmyeti
2. We are trying to avoid the the whole "it can't be done because of (plug your own math in here)."

In any case great job Phil!

-Nathan

Well, that is BS. Who cares?! People just want to know what works and what doesn't. Ignore the flames (or mods should handle it). As a TXS customer, I really want to stay in the loop, so to speak.

-C

WOW thats corvette zo6 trap speeds. Can you say whether or not nitrous was used without spilling the beans on the other products? Thanks :)

I think it is perfectly reasonable for them to hold new products under wraps.

Keep up the good work guys. It is nice just to know those trap speeds are possible.

A little mystery keeps things interesting.


If you read the storys of major successful race teams whether road course, or drag strip, one of the major parts of the game is trying to figure out who is doing what , and how.
Not to mention the long standing tradition amoung serious match racers of non-disclosure.

There are a lot of folks out there that don't talk about what they are running. Sort of a "If you want to see whats under the hood, beat me to the finish line thing".


:D :D :D

Larry

Not to mention that in the process of trying to figure out the how and what, you just might think up some trick no one has thought of yet.

Making people scratch their heads is good!!

Originally posted by nmyeti

2. We are trying to avoid the the whole "it can't be done because of (plug your own math in here)."


Understandable....

Great numbers!

Greg

1. We were using these runs to develop 2 new products comming from turboxs that frankly we are not ready to talk about on a public BBS just yet.

Hmmm, sounds promising :D


Bill

It also sounds like something went wrong too...

"i know he hit a 1.64 60 foot on his 3rd run of the night, but the run didn't go as planned and it was downhill from there."


Sounds like something broke or we would have seen an 11 sec pass with that one...1.64 is an awesome launch:eek:
Maybe too good for the stock trans and clutch??
Great run with the 12.01....congrats

i'm with the majority here......


117mph..........Sweet Jeebus!!!! :eek:


congrat's to whoever Phil is!!! man i'd actually be kicking myself with that time.......i'd be yelling stuff about how the clock was wrong and i should have gotten like an 11.9X. :lol:

sst

Well, the EJ20 still has some catching up to do in the U.S. with it's old rival the 4G63. Really nice to see some awesome progress. I will be curious what it is as well.

Keep'em coming...
I too want to fly with eagles..12.01...dreaming...
but its so hard when you are getting paid like a turkey..

:D

Good job guys.
i would be interested to see the entire time results. I would like to see what he trapped in the 1/8th and his 1/8th mile times for comparisons sake.

chad

Well i say keep the specific product announcements to yourself - thats reasonable and expected - why blow the wraps of the new chip devise before your ready ???

But why not post the time slip details ?? How can that be devluging info on your secret products ???

Anyway - I say absoultely NOS - b/c I see no way to make the mega HP leap needed IF they stuck with the same vf30 turbo

In any event - nice run Phil and good luck

As Nathan and gang prob know through the grapevine - I just installed a T3/T4 turbo and 46 mm Tial extrenal wastegate . . . . just need to get the custom intake tube made and then I'll be making my own run at 11.99 territory

I'll be at the battle of the imports - E;town on July 6 - 7 - - why don't you turboxs guys come by and we can see who gets to lay title to the real bragging rights !

Too mae they came so damm close - - thats very very close!

go al+txs

Al,

I'm not 100% about this one but I think Phil may have been going out of town for the weekend and I know he doesn't live one the I-club like some of us ;)

-Jonathan

Originally posted by alfriedesq
Well i say keep the specific product announcements to yourself - thats reasonable and expected - why blow the wraps of the new chip devise before your ready ???

But why not post the time slip details ?? How can that be devluging info on your secret products ???

Anyway - I say absoultely NOS - b/c I see no way to make the mega HP leap needed IF they stuck with the same vf30 turbo

In any event - nice run Phil and good luck

As Nathan and gang prob know through the grapevine - I just installed a T3/T4 turbo and 46 mm Tial extrenal wastegate . . . . just need to get the custom intake tube made and then I'll be making my own run at 11.99 territory

I'll be at the battle of the imports - E;town on July 6 - 7 - - why don't you turboxs guys come by and we can see who gets to lay title to the real bragging rights !

Too mae they came so damm close - - thats very very close!

Ah too bad - those silly fools with the stock fuel system wagon and NOS got the first 11.99 or better with NOS

\Now just the race to be the firest non-NOS wrx in 11's !

Silly fools eh? Nitrous or not... they are the fastest.

He's only done 11's once. You can make a yugo do 11's with enough NOS. Doesn't mean it will do it for long.

Al, I'm pretty sure TurboXS did not use N20 on that time........

It wouldn't surprise me if they get into the 11's without it either..... (and still using the VF30)

Great time!

Actually one of the big factors Phil missed the 11's by just a little bit was b/c of the ambient air being so hot & humid last friday night. Just talking with Phil ~ 1hr ago, turns out that he was being extremely conservative when tuning for the track that night.

Just FYI, Phil's WRX was running our 4-1 header system for that 12.01s 1/4 mile blast ;)

http://www.ionperformance.com/engine/header/turbo/411a.jpg

http://www.ionperformance.com/engine/header/turbo/411b.jpg

http://www.ionperformance.com/engine/header/turbo/411c.jpg

http://www.ionperformance.com/engine/header/turbo/411d.jpg

http://www.ionperformance.com/engine/header/turbo/411e.jpg


Jack
www.ionperformance.com

Thanks for the compliments!

Sorry for being a little secretive but we are still in R&D stages with these components and now is not the right time to let the cat out of the bag. You will know soon enough, I promise.

Here are some time slip results:
60ft 1.6967
1/8 7.7436 (shifted early and had to slip the clutch into 2nd)
1/4 12.0185
MPH 117.27

60ft 1.7642
1/8 7.8160 (missed 1-2 shift)
1/4 12.0885
MPH (no speed, don't ask)

60ft 1.6404
1/8 7.7514
1/4 12.24 (completely missed 4th and had to double clutch)
MPH 110.7430

My tune was a little too conservative so I'll tweak it for next week and see what happens. Still the VF30, stock clutch, stock tranny, bottom-end, and top-end.

Thanks,
Phil
TurboXS

Phil,
All I want to know is whether or not your are using Nitrous. That won't reveal anything. Congrats on the times (especially mph).

-C

Originally posted by iON Performance Inc

Just FYI, Phil's WRX was running our 4-1 header system for that 12.01s 1/4 mile blast ;)


Nice plug Jack :lol: ;)

phil-

i am curious to know what mods you have that you can actually reveal!!!
thanks

and if it was on race fuel or pump fuel? probably race fuel but i have high hopes!!!!-

I bet it was something like:

VF-30
Injectors
Fuel Pump
New Turbo XS Front Mount IC
Header
Turboback
New engine MGMT??????

I bet it was something like:

VF-30 21-22 PSI
Injectors
Fuel Pump
New Turbo XS Front Mount IC
Header
Turboback
New engine MGMT??????
Race Gas

Originally posted by alfriedesq

Anyway - I say absoultely NOS -

;) :lol:

Jorge (RiftsWRX)
www.ProjectWRX.com

i wonder what elevation it was at?

Phil - good job man!

Al - as for now, I am still teh fastest non NO2 car in the country (and yes, i considered my RS to be a WRX)...

Phil - I cannot wait to see the car in person when we are down there soon with one of our monsters

adam
Z-1 Performance

Originally posted by RiftsWRX


;) :lol:

Jorge (RiftsWRX)
www.ProjectWRX.com

Will you quit im sick of wondering what this new thing is thats coming out. Just spill it..

:D i guess ill just have to wait :D

Don't know about Race Fuel or Engine Mgmt...

But I know for sure he's still using the factory TMIC, Clutch & Tranny....

Cool beans... once again.....

I want his setup.... !

Oh, and if he was using N20, don't you think he'd be in the 11's along with wickedwrxwagon ? TXS does have Injectors, Pump, Headers... etc...

Originally posted by alfriedesq
Ah too bad - those silly fools with the stock fuel system wagon and NOS got the first 11.99 or better with NOS.
I guess you can't go against the grain around here. He's got stock fuel system and ECU. It's working for him. He wants it this way for now. He broke 11's. Let it go. :rolleyes:

What track did this happen at??

My friend that was at Cecil county dragstrip saw a silver WRX run 11.9 in the quarter mile.

HP is not the most important factor to get the best time as seen with the JDM spec C which only has (claimed) 280hp that does 12.05 in the 1/4s.

Originally posted by Hanzo
HP is not the most important factor to get the best time as seen with the JDM spec C which only has (claimed) 280hp that does 12.05 in the 1/4s.

You sure? The WRX STi spec C time that I saw was 12.6.

Yes hp and weight are the two things that do matter (given same gearing). That car doesnt' have 280hp (and it is lighter).

Yes, the March 2002 issue of BestMotoring did the test.

Originally posted by Hanzo
Yes, the March 2002 issue of BestMotoring did the test.

sweet, do you have the link/pic. What was the curb weight and trap speed?

The Spec C is so quick has everything to do with slighter lighter weight, and totally kick ass gearing....but then again, the car tops out at maybe 130 (which given its intended usage in club rally events et.c is perfectly fine)

HP realy doesn;t matter a whole lot in 1/4 mile ET, it does has everything to do with your speed at the end of that 1320 though

adam
Z-1

Sorry, they only show the times on those videos. It's a pretty good issue. All about Evo vs Imp. you should go to your local Japanese book store and check it out.

Originally posted by iON Performance Inc
Actually one of the big factors Phil missed the 11's by just a little bit was b/c of the ambient air being so hot & humid last friday night. Just talking with Phil ~ 1hr ago, turns out that he was being extremely conservative when tuning for the track that night.

Just FYI, Phil's WRX was running our 4-1 header system for that 12.01s 1/4 mile blast ;)

http://www.ionperformance.com/engine/header/turbo/411a.jpg

http://www.ionperformance.com/engine/header/turbo/411b.jpg

http://www.ionperformance.com/engine/header/turbo/411c.jpg

http://www.ionperformance.com/engine/header/turbo/411d.jpg

http://www.ionperformance.com/engine/header/turbo/411e.jpg


Jack
www.ionperformance.com

Hey, that's my hand and my rug :D Isn't that a USA PATRIOT Act violation? :lol:

I'm reserving more comment, but this manifold is for ****amn real. No way that I would know for certain, of course ;)

Ok so the new TXS FMIC had to be one of the 2 items agreed?
what's the other folks....ideas?

is the uppipe out of the bag or could that be it?
new engine management which includes ignition?
where'd all the speed come from?

Originally posted by SleeperWRX
Ok so the new TXS FMIC had to be one of the 2 items agreed?
what's the other folks....ideas?

is the uppipe out of the bag or could that be it?
new engine management which includes ignition?
where'd all the speed come from?

The intercooler was stock. The up-pipe is "out of the bag" and as such we'd not really be keeping that a secret. With any luck, assuming Phil's clutch gets installed as planned today, we'll run the car at battle of the imports this weekend.


-Nathan

Get that clutch fixed!

A few of us are meeting at the mall in Waldorf 8:30AM Sunday if anyone would like to meet up. Anyone coming from points North will pass right by the mall.

Al... here's your chance, let's make this interesting...

-Jonathan

so if its not the FMIC or uppipe what is it? cmon where's the rumor mill?

Originally posted by SleeperWRX
so if its not the FMIC or uppipe what is it? cmon where's the rumor mill?
big TMIC.

Originally posted by BamBooI

big TMIC.

I say this again one more time. Phil was on the STOCK intercooler when he ran his time.

-Nathan

Originally posted by nmyeti


I say this again one more time. Phil was on the STOCK intercooler when he ran his time.

-Nathan

He was just asking the question of what the new mod was. NOT WHAT PHIL RAN with. Or am I mistaken?

ok....Phil made this speed jump due to 2 new items. THey aren't exhaust components because he's got headers, uppipe (out of the bag), turboback. its not an intercooler cuz he's running a stock one.

cmon folks 2 items??
1) new engine management
2) Nitrous kit - IC spray or direct injection?

ok....Phil made this speed jump due to 2 new items. THey aren't exhaust components because he's got headers, uppipe (out of the bag), turboback. its not an intercooler cuz he's running a stock one.

cmon folks 2 items??
1) new engine management
2) Nitrous kit - IC spray or direct injection?

All the secret components would have been out of the bag at the battle of the imports but unfortunately I was unsuccessful in sourcing all the parts I needed to get car up to speed.

So you'll have to wait just a little longer. I was able to get my ACT clutch in and WOW, what a difference!

I'm really bummed I can't run this weekend because the new TXS TMI is unreal! I'll be back next week with even more power than ever. I should be able to leave that 117MPH in the dust!

Peace,

Phil
TurboXS

Can't wait :devil:

At least tell us if that was nitrous or not :devil:



Rob :)

Originally posted by motoxphil


So you'll have to wait just a little longer.

Peace,

Phil
TurboXS

Noooooo!. :)


Bill

I can't wait to see what you guys at TurboXS are doing to Phil's car. I have been following your progress since the beginning. Please don't wait too long to let us know what's going on. ;)

Originally posted by PAWRX
I can't wait to see what you guys at TurboXS are doing to Phil's car. I have been following your progress since the beginning. Please don't wait too long to let us know what's going on. ;)

I spoke to Nathan this morning and he said at least a month or more before the new products should be available. He stated they are going to be a "new approach'' towards performance.

My money is on an NOS system. If they are making 117mph trap speeds without NOS all I have to say is WOW.

There is no doubt in my mind that he ran 117 with nitrous. I can't imagine any other simple bolt on adding this much hp. We know it was not an ic or turbo change. Seems pretty simple to me.

Greg

To quote nathan:

"Phil just ran a "stage 4 on crack" and managed a 12.01@117.2mph."

If (crack != N2O)
{
Id_be = surprised
}

my .02

VV

P.S. quoted from clubwrx

Possibilities...
-ported turbo housing or ceramic coated
-different gearing
-weight reduction
-engine management of some sort
-CO2 or N2O at the intercooler


hehe, just had to toss in my 2 cent guess.

Originally posted by SGOSWRX



My money is on an NOS system. If they are making 117mph trap speeds without NOS all I have to say is WOW.

:lol:

Jorge (RiftsWRX)
www.ProjectWRX.com

Originally posted by TurboRex
There is no doubt in my mind that he ran 117 with nitrous. I can't imagine any other simple bolt on adding this much hp. We know it was not an ic or turbo change. Seems pretty simple to me.

Greg

exactly.

So what was funny about that :confused:

If he's running 117mph without the aid of N2O, I would image many people will be saying "wow" :)

I'm guessing something is allowing him to run more boost. It isn't the intercooler, and lets just say it isn't N2O. If it's engine management, and he is getting 8mph better than the unichip, then I guess we can wave goodbye to the piggyback. Another, although less likely possibility, is propane injection. The ultra high octane would allow him considerably more boost. Water/Alchy injection could be another possibility.

Isn't wild speculation fun :D

VV

Originally posted by RiftsWRX


:lol:

Jorge (RiftsWRX)
www.ProjectWRX.com

I just laugh cause I get awesome amusement from the conspiracy theory threads in FFI hhehehe

Jorge (RiftsWRX)
www.ProjectWRX.com

How about water injection prior the intercooler...makes for cooler charge air temps and allows higher boost :)

Might be enough.

My money's on a new engine mangement with a water/achol
injection system.

But i thought that turbo vf30 can't handle high boost reliably like
over 20 psi ? later