stevedood
06-26-2002, 11:09 PM
dusted him.
nuff said.
nuff said.
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View Full Version : Stock WRX vs. VR6 Corrado stevedood 06-26-2002, 11:09 PM dusted him. nuff said. SubyRex 06-27-2002, 12:30 AM and somehow you had a doubt?? Eric SS 06-27-2002, 01:17 AM and why is this here? FuriousGeorge!! 06-27-2002, 02:23 AM That's an easy one. Look out for those turbo VR's though ;) Diversion 06-27-2002, 03:04 AM Watch out for the closet VR6 fans to rush in here and tag-team your arse.. That happened in the thread about the idiot wanting to put a VR6 in the WRX engine bay.. :rolleyes: Jay Dori Dori 06-27-2002, 08:21 AM ...and I don't understand how they justify their arguements. I had a MkIII VR6...nothing special. Cool car, granted, but the WRX can walk away from it at any speed. cougar 06-27-2002, 10:06 AM Originally posted by FuriousGeorge!! That's an easy one. Look out for those turbo VR's though ;) Not to mention well-tuned G60's and 1.8T swaps (the Corrado swap is one of the easier MK3 swaps for the 1.8T). SubyRex 06-27-2002, 10:26 AM Some guy on our local board has a 1.8T Wolfsburg with some big mods; hybrid turbo, TB, chipped, upped boost and it is STILL slower than my bone stock WRX... he's not too happy about that :P Sordid Philosopher 06-27-2002, 12:10 PM dusted him. nuff said. Oh that was very nice of you to clean his car...if your available, maybe you can clean my car too.:) panteedropper 06-27-2002, 01:45 PM Originally posted by Sordid Philosopher Oh that was very nice of you to clean his car...if your available, maybe you can clean my car too.:) :lol: - lol cougar 06-27-2002, 03:12 PM Originally posted by SubyRex Some guy on our local board has a 1.8T Wolfsburg with some big mods; hybrid turbo, TB, chipped, upped boost and it is STILL slower than my bone stock WRX... he's not too happy about that :P Slower 0-60? or from a roll? Assuming you both know what you're doing, and his car is tuned right, a chipped 1.8T with an upgraded turbo would own a stock WRX on the highway. The only thing you have going for you from 0-60 would be AWD. SubyRex 06-27-2002, 04:44 PM Never tried from a roll, he does 14.5-14.7 1/4, I do 14.3 If I would of wanted to race on a highway I would of bought something else... highway racing is VERY boring. 1/4 mile and red light to red light racing is what I'm in and he doesn't even come close sometimes, if he f*cks up his launch it's all over and even if he get a godly launch it's still over. I am Jack's VR6 06-28-2002, 12:44 PM Originally posted by Dori Dori ...and I don't understand how they justify their arguements. I had a MkIII VR6...nothing special. Cool car, granted, but the WRX can walk away from it at any speed. I can't stand blanket statements. What does your WRX top out at? It's a shame your all the way out in Florida... tmarcel 06-28-2002, 04:23 PM Not to mention well-tuned G60's and 1.8T swaps (the Corrado swap is one of the easier MK3 swaps for the 1.8T). Last year, I had a 1991 Corrado G60 and various mods. I feel that I am qualified enough about this subject and can honestly speak the truth here. I also currently own a VW Golf 4 (my wife's). I had a G60 with a Garrett Stg 4 ++ chip, 268 cam, cone filter intake, 2.25" catback, 944 FPR, adj pulley, 62mm super overdriven pulley, etc. I also had the engine rebuilt with head porting, increased engine compression from 8.0:1 to about 8.8:1, and a set of total seal rings (full kit). That car on the highway was fairly quick and would outrun a stock WRX, but by no means could it touch it in the 1/4. I ownly took it to the track once before I lost the car to a major mishap. It ran 14.4 or so at best. I think it could've done better if it had been more broken in (only had a 1k miles on it) and if I had more runs to practice the launches. Now on the other hand, I've seen stock WRX's run 14.1. Before I did the engine rebuild + Stg 4 kit, I had a Garrett Stg 2 w/ 110k miles on the odom. The most I could ring out of it was 170whp. Now my friend had a Corrado VR6, and he had less miles than mine and was only putting down 154whp (all stock/ no mods except K+N filter). So no, the VR6's are not that powerful but sound pretty cool :) The VR6's are maybe a high 14 sec car when modded (not turbo) to the best of my knowledge. Hell, even with turbo or SC they're not running as fast as the WRX's with upgraded turbos. Our little WRX 1994cc whoops up on the VR6 :devil: (Oh and BTW, I'm running 12.9's and haven't spend a ton of money to do it at only 14.5 psi) I am b 06-28-2002, 05:33 PM Originally posted by I am Jack's VR6 I can't stand blanket statements. What does your WRX top out at? It's a shame your all the way out in Florida... Blanket statement??? If we are talking stock for stock then what else needs to be said?? I had my rex and a VR6 at the same time and sorry but no way could that VR6 even hang with my rex. It's just that simple. Moded 1.8t can be just plain fast but a VR6 is just not in the same territory. Oh and to answer your question a WRX is saposed to top out at 135 but I wouldn't know. You are a complete idiot if you want to test that out.:rolleyes: SubyRex 06-28-2002, 11:43 PM it's more than 135... it's more like 145mph.. I toped out at 230-235km/h going on a very flat highway. Only went there once, you HAVE to know what your vehicule tops out at... I can't even think of ANY situation I would need to remotely go at that speed :eek: stevedood 06-29-2002, 12:03 AM OK... So I have averted street racing and getting cocky 'cause some car that looks rigged rolls up next to me. This kind of stuff is bad, first off, and that's my disclaimer. Some dude was arrested out here street racing and someone else is throwing around photos online of people wrapped around highway dividers and mashed-up WRX's. Mad crazy. But our little Subies can hum and a former VW owner myself ('90 Golf Wolfsburg), I can surely say they are sweet cars and I came THIS CLOSE to getting a Golf 1.8T but then they discontinued the 4-door this year. Bloody stupid but getting the 'Rex was good. Racing this guy was stoopid. But , TO DISPELL ALL SPECULATION, his Corrado was a G60 and he wasn't revving his engine at the light to get his Air-Conditioning primed either. So I had to show him, in ONE CITY BLOCK, why his car IS COOL, but NOT AS COOL AS MINE. tmarcel 06-29-2002, 01:59 AM Originally posted by stevedood OK... So I had to show him, in ONE CITY BLOCK, why his car IS COOL, but NOT AS COOL AS MINE. Read above! G60 Stg 4 with lots o' *****! No match for stock form WRX, and certainly no match for a modded WRX :devil: Dori Dori 06-29-2002, 07:10 PM Originally posted by I am Jack's VR6 I can't stand blanket statements. What does your WRX top out at? It's a shame your all the way out in Florida... Or what...you'd show me what's up.:rolleyes: Hey, did you own both a WRX and a VR6? No? Then shut up. :monkey: I am Jack's VR6 06-30-2002, 01:59 AM Originally posted by Dori Dori Or what...you'd show me what's up.:rolleyes: Hey, did you own both a WRX and a VR6? No? Then shut up. :monkey: Yes. ...and what does owning a WRX and a VR6 have to do with anything? Because I don't own one, I automatically have no idea about what the car is capable of? You said that you could walk away from a VR at any speed and I don't beleive that. Do you think that from an 80 punch to 140, your WRX would "walk away" from a VR? Doubt it. Sorry. I would like to find out though and that's why I said it's a shame your all the way in Florida. Dori Dori 06-30-2002, 02:29 AM What does it have to do with it...ummm, EVERYTHING! Being that I had both cars and driven both extensively means that I have a pretty good idea of what both are capable of. As for driving 140, sorry, I enjoy living and would rather not put my life in the hands of my tires...:rolleyes: Keep driving 140 buddy, I'll just feel comfortable KNOWING that my WRX can beat a VR6 at any sensible speed. I am Jack's VR6 06-30-2002, 12:40 PM Originally posted by Dori Dori What does it have to do with it...ummm, EVERYTHING! Being that I had both cars and driven both extensively means that I have a pretty good idea of what both are capable of. As for driving 140, sorry, I enjoy living and would rather not put my life in the hands of my tires...:rolleyes: Keep driving 140 buddy, I'll just feel comfortable KNOWING that my WRX can beat a VR6 at any sensible speed. I'm assuming that you haven't taken your WRX to 140 so your "extensive" driving experience doesn't mean anything to me. Until you have pushed both cars to their limits, I don't really see how you can make a comment like that. You said you can walk away from a VR at any speed, now you cop out... It's okay if you can't back up what you said, just don't keep making up excuses for your blanket statements. I am b 06-30-2002, 12:45 PM Originally posted by I am Jack's VR6 I'm assuming that you haven't taken your WRX to 140 so your "extensive" driving experience doesn't mean anything to me. Until you have pushed both cars to their limits, I don't really see how you can make a comment like that. You said you can walk away from a VR at any speed, now you cop out... It's okay if you can't back up what you said, just don't keep making up excuses for your blanket statements. and have you taken a wrx to 140???? Please shut the hell up. Yes some cars are faster then others. I've had both cars and yes a wrx is faster from ANY speed..............so what???? Just give it up buddy and troll somewhere else.:monkey: I am Jack's VR6 06-30-2002, 05:17 PM Originally posted by blkwrxwgn and have you taken a wrx to 140???? Please shut the hell up. Yes some cars are faster then others. I've had both cars and yes a wrx is faster from ANY speed..............so what???? Just give it up buddy and troll somewhere else.:monkey: When did I say I went 140 in a WRX? Please show me, I'd love to see it. I still don't think the WRX will "walk" a VR from an 80-140 run. I would like to find out, that's all. No need to get your panties in a bunch. You an Dori Dori are acting like kids, but hey, maybe you are. Dori Dori 06-30-2002, 06:54 PM W T F!:confused: Are you a retard? You would be trying to egg me on to a 140mph+ race if I lived near you and you are calling me a kid.:rolleyes: O...K... Also, if you think that 'pushing a car to it's limits' is driving to it's max speed...why did you buy a veedub? Stupid choice buddy. :monkey: trolls. skip4343 07-01-2002, 04:06 PM this thread again. this is soooo WTLW! anyway, having owned a well modded 95 vr6 (www.geocities.com/skip4343) along with a couple corrados,16v gti and a G60 rabbit , i would have to say......they are both fast. haven't had the wrx too fast yet, with the stock tires and all but i broke 140 a few times in the vw. miss the vw but LOVE my suby. just costs too much to make em real fast and then you start breakin all sorts of stuff. just check out some of EIPs cars.insane power but they always break stuff.anyhow, back on topic....... my cars faster then your car at this speed while the wind is coming in from the west and blah,blah,blah:monkey: drive safe:D skip Dori Dori 07-01-2002, 07:47 PM Originally posted by skip4343 my cars faster then your car at this speed while the wind is coming in from the west and blah,blah,blah:monkey: drive safe:D skip Exactly...emphasis on the drive safe part too.:) I am Jack's VR6 07-02-2002, 12:28 AM Originally posted by Dori Dori W T F!:confused: Are you a retard? You would be trying to egg me on to a 140mph+ race if I lived near you and you are calling me a kid.:rolleyes: O...K... Also, if you think that 'pushing a car to it's limits' is driving to it's max speed...why did you buy a veedub? Stupid choice buddy. :monkey: trolls. I feel like I'm talking to a wall here. I never said that pushing a car to it's limits is driving it at max speed. Anyone can plant the gas pedal down and shift. YOU are the one who said YOU have "extensive driving experience with both cars", yet you have never reached the top end of your WRX. How is that extensive? I bought my VW because I have always wanted a VR6 GTI. It just so happens that it would be quite the competition for your WRX from an 80-140 race. BTW, Why do you keep changing the subject when I ask you direct questions? I'll try to make it nice and simple for you this time... CAN A WRX "WALK AWAY" FROM A VR6 IN A 80-140 RACE LIKE YOU STATED? [being that 80-140 falls under the "any speed" category] Answer with a yes or no answer and at least try to be able to prove it. That's all I'm looking for. I'm all ears I am Jack's VR6 07-02-2002, 12:34 AM and just in case you forgot already... Originally posted by Dori Dori ...and I don't understand how they justify their arguements. I had a MkIII VR6...nothing special. Cool car, granted, but the WRX can walk away from it at any speed. geremy 07-02-2002, 07:18 AM Yes, a stock WRX will walk a VR6 from 80 on...or even a chipped VR6. My previous car was a 99.5 (mkIV) GTI GLX with Garret chip, intake, etc. I don't know about 140, but it was still pulling ahead at about 110. Sorry buddy, but it's true. Maybe the new 204 horse VR6 is a different story. I don't know. dug-e-fresh 07-02-2002, 10:19 AM The ability of a car to accelerate to rediculous speeds is a function of 4 things (mostly)... horsepower, weight, drag coeffecient and GEARING... Everyone remembers hp and weight, they underestimate the drag coefficient and most totally forget about gearing!! My god people... the WRX 4th and 5th gears are horrible for "power on the highway"... they are fuel friendly gears intended to increase the WRXs advertised Highway MPG. Granted saying the gears are to blame on a roll (from 80 to 140:rolleyes:) is a bit of an excuse, but a valid one regardless. The WRX (stock) has more power than a GTI VR6...53 more HP!! The WRX has more torque, 46 more ft/lbs!! The WRX is only a 150lbs heavier than a GTI GLX. Personally I have never raced a VR6 to those speeds... but i have raced a modded one (chipped, exhaust, intake) from 20 to 100... and I walked it hard! Maybe it would have caught me later... but thats OK... that would have happened when, maybe around 120 or so? So heres a gearing comparo for you guys: mph @ mph @ mph @ mk3 redline mk4 redline WRX redline 1 3.30 36.4 3.62 43.0 3.45 38.5 2 1.94 67.8 2.07 68.6 1.95 68.2 3 1.31 100.5 1.47 96.6 1.37 97.3 4 1.03 127.8 1.04 136.5 0.97 136.7 5 0.84 156.7 0.84 169.0 0.74 180.0 f/d 3.39 3.39 3.90 tire 205/50/15 205/55/16 205/55/16 circ. 23.07 24.88 24.88 max rpm 6500 6500 7000 5th gear for the WRX is REAL bad for accelerating.... Sooo... now the only thing we need to consider is the drag coefficient's of all three cars. The WRX has a 0.33... the MKIV data I have found shows it be 0.31, while the MKIII seems to be 0.35... correct me if I am wrong... Soo... the MKIV would be slipperier (sp) than both the WRX and the MKIII... so there it would have an edge. So the GTI has a better drag coefficient, is lighter, better geared up top, but is it enough to overcome the power deficit...??? I think up to the top of fourth gear the WRX would pull... after that the Golf MAY lock it in.... beyond that, it looks like some would just have to go try it out! Let us know how it goes... def BTW- most people dont know this, but the VR6 was designed in the beginning to be a turbo-diesel, one capable of holding something like 45 psi!! They take to turbo-charging very well... I know of at least 3 in my area that are borderline 11 sec cars... one of which did run 11.6! (it was in a Jetta body though). I am Jack's VR6 07-02-2002, 11:23 AM Thank you dug-e-fresh!! That was exactly what I was looking for. You even researched on the subject and gave me proof! That was my main point in all of this... We all know the WRX is an off-the-line monster, that's nothing new, but when someone says something so blatantly stupid like "a WRX can walk away from a VR6 at any speed" and it's not true, I'm going to speak up. I knew about the 4th and 5th gears in a WRX being the cars only "weak spot" [for lack of a better words]. I also know that my car shines in the triple digits. For someone with such "extensive experience" with both cars, you probably should have known that Dori Dori. I see too much mis-information spread around on the internet these days and it's starting to piss me off. Sorry if I came off the wrong way to some of you. I am Jack's VR6 07-02-2002, 11:54 AM Originally posted by dug-e-fresh Granted saying the gears are to blame on a roll (from 80 to 140:rolleyes:) is a bit of an excuse, but a valid one regardless. The WRX (stock) has more power than a GTI VR6...53 more HP!! The WRX has more torque, 46 more ft/lbs!! The WRX is only a 150lbs heavier than a GTI GLX. Gearing plays such a huge role in things. Another thing is WHP, not crank HP. The WRX may make 53 more HP and 46 more ft/lbs, but it looses much more than my VR through the drivetrain. My car weighs in at 2793, another huge factor in acceleration. The WRX is in the neighborhood of ~3100 correct? Those higher HP numbers start to make less of a difference when everything else is considered. There is always more to racing than just the HP numbers. So many different factors... Again, thanks dug-e-fresh. I'm really impressed by your attention to detail. skip4343 07-02-2002, 02:35 PM you also have to remember that the corrado trans is different gearing then the gti. I am Jack's VR6 07-02-2002, 03:54 PM Originally posted by skip4343 you also have to remember that the corrado trans is different gearing then the gti. True, but wouldn't that help it accelerate faster with the 3.67? skip4343 07-02-2002, 04:15 PM yep. thats what i meant. sorry. I am b 07-02-2002, 04:26 PM Originally posted by I am Jack's VR6 Thank you dug-e-fresh!! That was exactly what I was looking for. You even researched on the subject and gave me proof! That was my main point in all of this... We all know the WRX is an off-the-line monster, that's nothing new, but when someone says something so blatantly stupid like "a WRX can walk away from a VR6 at any speed" and it's not true, I'm going to speak up. I knew about the 4th and 5th gears in a WRX being the cars only "weak spot" [for lack of a better words]. I also know that my car shines in the triple digits. For someone with such "extensive experience" with both cars, you probably should have known that Dori Dori. I see too much mis-information spread around on the internet these days and it's starting to piss me off. Sorry if I came off the wrong way to some of you. How freakin old are you??? You act like a child. Where in dug's post is he saying a VR6 is going to be faster??? I didn't read it. One question...........do you own a wrx? Have you ever owned a wrx? If you have then fine but I think you haven't. I have.....both at the same time. The wrx is faster then the VR6 in every way. That is just the truth. Stock for stock it just isn't a race. I don't think dug-e's post says anything other then that. Another thing....................................WHO CARES!!!! If you are racing people from 80-140 on the street then please die soon, because that is what will happen and hopefully will happen before you kill an innocent person. :mad: WHO CARES HOW FAST YOUR CAR IS FROM 80-140. :monkey: Dori Dori 07-02-2002, 10:05 PM Extensive driving to me is driving each car for at least 6 months...not driving it to 140mph.:rolleyes: Just b/c I didn't explore every facet of both cars abilities doesn't mean I didn't do extensive driving in both. Leave troll, please. Go back to your 'Vortex' and keep having pipe dreams about your almighty VR6. :monkey: stevedood 07-03-2002, 12:08 AM I never should have started this post. Now I've managed to piss off VW and Subaru owners (of which, I am both). It can safely be said that both the VR6 and the WRX kick a55. Nuff said. FuriousGeorge!! 07-03-2002, 01:01 AM HAhahahaaa, this thread is still going. Love them both too. Enough of this street racing pooh. A more fair challenge stock would be the number of waving chickies in a quarter mile. Corrado does a 10.5 1/4, WRX does 0 over 10k miles (my brother admits it) . Gotta play to your strengths;) Chav 07-03-2002, 01:12 AM Ya, but the GC8 wins at 150 for every foot u drive. :lol: :lol: -Chav I am Jack's VR6 07-03-2002, 11:14 AM Originally posted by blkwrxwgn How freakin old are you??? You act like a child. Where in dug's post is he saying a VR6 is going to be faster??? I didn't read it. One question...........do you own a wrx? Have you ever owned a wrx? If you have then fine but I think you haven't. I have.....both at the same time. The wrx is faster then the VR6 in every way. That is just the truth. Stock for stock it just isn't a race. I don't think dug-e's post says anything other then that. Another thing....................................WHO CARES!!!! If you are racing people from 80-140 on the street then please die soon, because that is what will happen and hopefully will happen before you kill an innocent person. :mad: WHO CARES HOW FAST YOUR CAR IS FROM 80-140. :monkey: I act like a child? hahahahaha that's the funniest thing I will probably hear all day. How can I be acting like a child when you are the one throwing temper tantrums? This is so amusing... your like Dori's little sidekick. I don't remember ever asking you anything blkwrxwgn. You sure seem to be quick to speak up though. Where in my post did I say that the VR6 would be faster in that race? I said it would be quite the competition for a WRX from 80-140, there is a huge difference between competition and beating, or "walking" as Dori likes to put it. Maybe you should head back to high school and take some freshman reading comprehension classes again, trust me, you need them. On to owning a WRX... Why would I possibly need to own a WRX to know it's strengths and weaknesses? Please explain this to me. Why wouldn't I just be able to come onto this board, along with others boards, and just "troll" around finding information? That's how I found out about the overdrive 4th and 5th in the WRX. How many times do I need to say the same thing to you and Dori?? Maybe I should just start cutting and pasting the same thing over and over and over again. It REALLY seems like you are lacking the basic mental functions needed to understand what I am saying. This is no longer about whether or not my car is actually competition in a race from 80-140, it's now a personal attack on me. Why? Can't you two discuss things like adults? dug-e-fresh came at me with solid information and I respect that. Why would I respect someone like you? HOW could I respect someone like you? I am Jack's VR6 07-03-2002, 11:28 AM Originally posted by Dori Dori Extensive driving to me is driving each car for at least 6 months...not driving it to 140mph.:rolleyes: Just b/c I didn't explore every facet of both cars abilities doesn't mean I didn't do extensive driving in both. Leave troll, please. Go back to your 'Vortex' and keep having pipe dreams about your almighty VR6. :monkey: You STILL haven't answered my direct question to you!!! hahahahahaha! I was kidding about the talking to wall thing before but now I am serious. You are a moron. You aren’t even worth my time. Maybe you should have spent a little more time choosing the words you used. Instead of extensive, maybe you should have said that you have experience driving both cars to and from the grocery store, never exceeding the speed limit. hahahaha I am Jack's VR6 07-03-2002, 11:37 AM Originally posted by stevedood I never should have started this post. Now I've managed to piss off VW and Subaru owners (of which, I am both). It can safely be said that both the VR6 and the WRX kick a55. Nuff said. Exactly my point, both cars are great. Don't be sorry you started this post, it's highly entertaining for me. It's not your fault Dori and blkwrxwgn are throwing hissy-fits like 12 year old girls... I am b 07-03-2002, 11:37 AM What is your point in this converstation??? You asked somebody to prove it. Can you? Then why are you even here arguing this? Yeah we are going to take crap from some troll who doesn't own a subaru. There are some of us who actually owned BOTH. Okay so who would have the best information??? Tough question.:rolleyes: yeah you are the wrx expert becasue you have "trolled around on the board". What an idiot. There are plenty of wrx's in the bay area so why don't you head to the next meet and give it a try. Yes.......................that is your answer. A wrx will "walk away from a VR6 from 80-140". There is that better? This is coming from somebody who has owned both at the same time. :monkey: I am b 07-03-2002, 11:48 AM :lol: :lol: :lol: from Car and Driver 2002 Subaru WRX 0-120 28.2 sec from C&D Oct. 01 1999 VW GTI VR6 0-120 32.5 sec from C&D Mar. 99 hmmmm unless the VW hits some of his NAWZZZ!!! Then I really don't see it overcoming a 5 sec difference from 120-140. :lol: There is your proof. :monkey: I am Jack's VR6 07-03-2002, 11:52 AM Originally posted by blkwrxwgn What is your point in this converstation??? You asked somebody to prove it. Can you? Then why are you even here arguing this? Yeah we are going to take crap from some troll who doesn't own a subaru. There are some of us who actually owned BOTH. Okay so who would have the best information??? Tough question.:rolleyes: yeah you are the wrx expert becasue you have "trolled around on the board". What an idiot. There are plenty of wrx's in the bay area so why don't you head to the next meet and give it a try. Yes.......................that is your answer. A wrx will "walk away from a VR6 from 80-140". There is that better? This is coming from somebody who has owned both at the same time. :monkey: Okay sidekick; let me break this down for you one last time. My point in this conversation is that a WRX will not "walk away" from a VR6 in an 80-140 race! Are you really THAT stupid? Can't you read!?! That is all I have been saying all along. Anyone in the bay up for a friendly race to find out? I think it would be an excelent race. Very, very close. It would definitely take some time to find a highly secluded place to do this but I'm for it. I am Jack's VR6 07-03-2002, 11:58 AM Originally posted by blkwrxwgn :lol: :lol: :lol: from Car and Driver 2002 Subaru WRX 0-120 28.2 sec from C&D Oct. 01 1999 VW GTI VR6 0-120 32.5 sec from C&D Mar. 99 hmmmm unless the VW hits some of his NAWZZZ!!! Then I really don't see it overcoming a 5 sec difference from 120-140. :lol: There is your proof. :monkey: Didn't you know that mag racing is frowned upon? There goes your stupidity rearing it's ugly head again... You have AWD you stupid, stupid, really stupid, sidekick! Of course you are going to get the jump from that! You have still proven nothing to me this whole time!! Let me help you out with nice big bold letters: 80-140 dumbass! I am b 07-03-2002, 12:01 PM Originally posted by I am Jack's VR6 Okay sidekick; let me break this down for you one last time. My point in this conversation is that a WRX will not "walk away" from a VR6 in an 80-140 race! Are you really THAT stupid? Can't you read!?! That is all I have been saying all along. Anyone in the bay up for a friendly race to find out? I think it would be an excelent race. Very, very close. It would definitely take some time to find a highly secluded place to do this but I'm for it. okay this is getting really old. :rolleyes: Your point isn't important here! You have NO point. You have no proof. You asked for somebody to provide proof if they are going to make a blanket statement, yet you have been mouthing off on this thread making blanket statements with no proof. How much sense does this make?? I provided you the proof in the above post so go away. The last thing anybody wants is a punk kid like you driving 140 mph. Leave it to the professional drivers. They already did the test. I think 5 second difference just to 120 is a HUGE difference. SubyRex 07-03-2002, 12:10 PM I'll add some fuel to the fire, 'cause I just love stirrin' **** up! VR6's are the second most OVERATED cars after the Type-R Nothing still comes close to the Type-R ricaroni we see, but the VR6 are in second place, not in "rice" but from all the people that think they're the "*****" The 2002 models and up (VR6 & 1.8T) would give a very good challenge, but the older ones DO NOT have the guts. I've tried the older style on the highway at around 65mph, we both had a passenger (our GFs) and when my GF said GO, he took about 1/2 car on me but as soon I hit full boost (VERY quick in 3rd gear) it was ALL OVER! I passed him very quickly to about 120mph, I then had about 4-5 cars lenght. That extra 20mph you're looking for wouldn't of made JACK ***** of a difference. 4-5 cars lenght is HUGE to catch up at that speed. Sorry if I have no ACTUAL physical proof, but that's the way it is. And BTW, I'm 100% stock. I am Jack's VR6 07-03-2002, 12:21 PM Originally posted by blkwrxwgn okay this is getting really old. :rolleyes: Your point isn't important here! You have NO point. You have no proof. You asked for somebody to provide proof if they are going to make a blanket statement, yet you have been mouthing off on this thread making blanket statements with no proof. How much sense does this make?? I provided you the proof in the above post so go away. The last thing anybody wants is a punk kid like you driving 140 mph. Leave it to the professional drivers. They already did the test. I think 5 second difference just to 120 is a HUGE difference. I am trying to find out what the outcome will be. I posted asking if anyone was up for the race, is that not enough? I am taking an active part to find out 100% what will happen. You were doing so well in the first half of you post. You were speaking to me like an adult then you go and ruin it by telling me to go away. I am not a "punk kid" either. You know nothing about me. Why assume? Why not try to find out something for fact instead of just jump to conclusions about everything. Your stupidity is really starting to amaze me. Once again, 80-140. You need to factor in the other variables such as your AWD launch, the difference in gearing, DC, everything that dug-e-fresh brought up. How many times do I need to recycle infromation for you to process it? You do to much talking and not enough thinking. I am b 07-03-2002, 12:26 PM I'm out. This is REALLY stupid. I hope you get your car to 140 and enjoy looking at the back of a wrx.............oh and don't kill anybody while you are trying to prove your manhood. I'm glad the moderators told you to clean up your act, no need for name calling and trolls getting out of hand. Yes and again.....................please go away. :monkey: I am Jack's VR6 07-03-2002, 12:30 PM Originally posted by SubyRex I'll add some fuel to the fire, 'cause I just love stirrin' **** up! VR6's are the second most OVERATED cars after the Type-R Nothing still comes close to the Type-R ricaroni we see, but the VR6 are in second place, not in "rice" but from all the people that think they're the "*****" The 2002 models and up (VR6 & 1.8T) would give a very good challenge, but the older ones DO NOT have the guts. I've tried the older style on the highway at around 65mph, we both had a passenger (our GFs) and when my GF said GO, he took about 1/2 car on me but as soon I hit full boost (VERY quick in 3rd gear) it was ALL OVER! I passed him very quickly to about 120mph, I then had about 4-5 cars lenght. That extra 20mph you're looking for wouldn't of made JACK ***** of a difference. 4-5 cars lenght is HUGE to catch up at that speed. Sorry if I have no ACTUAL physical proof, but that's the way it is. And BTW, I'm 100% stock. Wow, I must have hit some sort of WRX owner nerve somewhere along the line here? At least you are trying to prove it to me but until you speak to me like a big-boy, I won't pay any attention to you. What altitude are you at up in Canada? Factors like NA vs FI in high altitude play big roles. I'm down at sea level so the difference isn't so large. Do you know if the VR6 driver was skilled at driving his car? Was he pushing his car past redline? Doubt it. But once again, if anyone is up for a friendly race to find out, let me know. I am Jack's VR6 07-03-2002, 12:37 PM Originally posted by blkwrxwgn I'm out. This is REALLY stupid. I hope you get your car to 140 and enjoy looking at the back of a wrx.............oh and don't kill anybody while you are trying to prove your manhood. I'm glad the moderators told you to clean up your act, no need for name calling and trolls getting out of hand. Yes and again.....................please go away. :monkey: [monty python voice] Run away! Run away! [/monty python voice] At least I'm not tucking my tail between my legs and running away like a coward. I'm trying to find out what my underpowered VW will do against a big-bad WRX at high speeds. This all stemed from Dori Dori and his lame blanket statement. Don't forget how this started. You jumped in this one. I never said anything to you until you said something to me. If you can't deal with the heat, get the f*ck out of the kitchen. Leonardo 07-03-2002, 12:55 PM I am Jack's VR6- I know this is fun for you but not as fun as me telling you to shut it up! If YOU don't like it, you can be banned! Leo:mad: Dori Dori 07-03-2002, 01:10 PM Originally posted by I am Jack's VR6 Don't forget how this started. . Yeah, with you trolling making bs remarks. Hope you get banned. IBTL and another monkey for you. :monkey: I am Jack's VR6 07-03-2002, 01:27 PM Originally posted by Leonardo I am Jack's VR6- I know this is fun for you but not as fun as me telling you to shut it up! If YOU don't like it, you can be banned! Leo:mad: Maturity is a good thing. People here are looking up to you because you are a moderator. You aren't giving this site a very good image when you say things I would expect from a 12 year old. I responded to what I felt were direct personal attacks against me. If that does not hold to my freedom of speech, I don't know what would. You can ban me if you feel the need, but before you do, read this whole thread without bias towards whoever owns a WRX. I did nothing but defend myself, and my car, AFTER I was attacked. Dori and blkwrxwgn acted like children so I treated them as such. I am Jack's VR6 07-03-2002, 01:30 PM Originally posted by Dori Dori Yeah, with you trolling making bs remarks. Hope you get banned. IBTL and another monkey for you. :monkey: You have reduced me to cutting and pasting... Originally posted by I am Jack's VR6 I was kidding about the talking to wall thing before but now I am serious. You are a moron. You aren’t even worth my time. SubyRex 07-03-2002, 01:32 PM Originally posted by I am Jack's VR6 Wow, I must have hit some sort of WRX owner nerve somewhere along the line here? At least you are trying to prove it to me but until you speak to me like a big-boy, I won't pay any attention to you. What altitude are you at up in Canada? Factors like NA vs FI in high altitude play big roles. I'm down at sea level so the difference isn't so large. Do you know if the VR6 driver was skilled at driving his car? Was he pushing his car past redline? Doubt it. But once again, if anyone is up for a friendly race to find out, let me know. Speak to you like a big-boy? Are you gay? I'm at an altitude of 80ft which is considered the same thing as sea level when you calculate HP taking altitude into account; the VR6 driver is a friend, didn't I tell you it was her girlfriend with him? I don't say **** without knowing it. He was pushing for a win he told me, but he KNEW I would WALK him. His best on the 1/4 is 15.169 and he's 100% stock as I was. He's got a lot of friends with 1.8T's VR6's ad even the god slow CL & GL, he's the fastest of them stock trim. Face it man, the old VR6 are no match for the WRX at any speeds. The new ones I can't say 'cause I haven't tried one, but until I do I won't speculate on them. Can't you see you're trying to prove a point that no one else approves? Go back where you came from before the humiliation of getting kicked out. I am b 07-03-2002, 01:37 PM Originally posted by Leonardo I am Jack's VR6- I know this is fun for you but not as fun as me telling you to shut it up! If YOU don't like it, you can be banned! Leo:mad: Leonardo 07-03-2002, 01:47 PM Dori and blkwrxwgn acted like children so I treated them as such. But once again, if anyone is up for a friendly race to find out, let me know. So you think you are so mature?? 1) why lose time with "little children"? A grown up would have ignored the comments!!! 2) You act so mature that you invite them to a "Friendly Race" Youp, you are mature!!:rolleyes: This is going nowhere so I'm closing it down!!! |