I've seen some old posts about this...http://www.nitrousexpress.com/productdisplay.php?sku=5183&hdwt=31101&loc=101

Has anyone used/seen this used recently on a WRX. I'd like to pick this kit up. I think it would kick booty for use here in hot/humid Hawaii.

If you are going to spend the cash. Put the nitrous into your engine instead of on your i/c and you can be sure to have a bigger smile. :D

Originally posted by Ronin2121
If you are going to spend the cash. Put the nitrous into your engine instead of on your i/c and you can be sure to have a bigger smile. :D

Bingo, then add the water spray kit for those hot/humid Hawaiian days and put ice cold water in the bottle :D

Originally posted by Ronin2121
If you are going to spend the cash. Put the nitrous into your engine instead of on your i/c and you can be sure to have a bigger smile. :D

I don't want to spray nitrous on my intercooler, I want to spray CO2. As fas as a water spary kit, I've looked around and I think this set up would work better. Oh well can't hurt to try it out.

I'm working on mine right now. Going to use a paintball cyl and a nitrous solenoid. Should be able to put one together for under $100. Anyhow, some guy in a white rex (didn't get his name), was using a homebrew setup based on a nos kit. Had a piece of drilled tubing mounted to his intercooler that sprayed down. Iced up the IC very quickly. His times sure were convincing, especially when you consider the mid-upper 90's temps and high humidity.

jb

I was thinking of using a cheap nitrous kit and a burner from a gas BBQ I found at Sears.:devil:

Originally posted by Mach5WRX
I was thinking of using a cheap nitrous kit and a burner from a gas BBQ I found at Sears.:devil:

Damn, dude, you stole my idea. Give it back :)

Carlo

Great minds think alike:lol: :D

True, but I'll make min to spray the top and the bottom so it's well iced, cuz if you spray the top, the bottom is still hot.

Leo

Should be fine if you don't do a crap load of runs all at one time.

The benefits of running CO2 over the IC should be far more COST effective vs. NO2 with similar results I would think.

Well my mind is made up. I'm going to get this kit. Anyone know where I can pick one up for cheap?
The only place I can find this kit is on the nopi web site, and they want $80 to ship it to me!:eek:

Originally posted by tmarcel
The benefits of running CO2 over the IC should be far more COST effective vs. NO2 with similar results I would think.

Why do you say this? I'm ignorant of this CO2 stuff. I looked here (http://www.burp.org/co2.htm#tanks) and it states that CO2 is $5.00 per lb. Nitrous costs me $4.00 a lb. Of course cost varies. Also, the website I provided said this:
"DoT regulations and Compressed Gas Association standards state that all tanks, steel or aluminum, used for the storage of CO2 which measure over 2 inches in diameter must be hyrdostatically tested every five years.
Hydrostatic testing consists of inserting the tank into a water filled containment vessel and increasing the pressure to five-thirds (5/3) of it's rated pressure. If the tank fails, as in the picture to the right, it does so in the water filled container designed to contain the blast."

.http://www.burp.org/images/failed-tank.gif


Nitrous bottles do not need to be hydrostatically tested.

Again, I'm ignorant of all the CO2 stuff so I am posting these questions. Thanks for any feedback.

I can pick up 20oz of Co2 at my local paintball place for $5, you can pick up a 50Lbs bottle for ~$50+$100 deposit I think for the bottle. Last I checked nitrous was $40 to fill up a 10lbs bottle.

Plus Co2 is much more widely availible. As for the Hydrostatic testing, it's just regulation. Co2 is very safe to handle, the gas is typically around 800psi, and most tanks have a burst pressure far in excess of 3000psi, with a 2000psi burst valve. Plus you can pick up empty tanks for cheap and they are highly availible.

I'm also pretty sure No2 tanks need to be certified in the same manner as Co2 tanks, especially if exposed to high (125 degree) tempratures.

Thats my contribution.

What if any way could you actually spray the CO2 in a "Regulated maner??? is there a co2 "Sprayer" i would like to do this rather then icing the intercooler, i really like this idea but how would you phsyically "Spray" it??


Rob

Originally posted by RobPA
What if any way could you actually spray the CO2 in a "Regulated maner??? is there a co2 "Sprayer" i would like to do this rather then icing the intercooler, i really like this idea but how would you phsyically "Spray" it??


Rob

Click on the link on the first post:D

Originally posted by Kevin Thomas


Why do you say this? I'm ignorant of this CO2 stuff. I looked here (http://www.burp.org/co2.htm#tanks) and it states that CO2 is $5.00 per lb. Nitrous costs me $4.00 a lb. Of course cost varies. Also, the website I provided said this:
"DoT regulations and Compressed Gas Association standards state that all tanks, steel or aluminum, used for the storage of CO2 which measure over 2 inches in diameter must be hyrdostatically tested every five years.
Hydrostatic testing consists of inserting the tank into a water filled containment vessel and increasing the pressure to five-thirds (5/3) of it's rated pressure. If the tank fails, as in the picture to the right, it does so in the water filled container designed to contain the blast."

.http://www.burp.org/images/failed-tank.gif


Nitrous bottles do not need to be hydrostatically tested.

Again, I'm ignorant of all the CO2 stuff so I am posting these questions. Thanks for any feedback.

This kit is made by Nitrous Express. It comes with..... - Complete kit including 5lb bottle, stainless steel bottle brackets, 16ft -4 feed line custom intercooler discharge ring, nitrous solenoid, arming switch, push button and installation hardware.

The bottle is a normal 5lb compressed gas bottle.

Here's a picture of the kit.

A friend of mine has it down here in South Fl.

I'm not going to post the difference in times b/c I know a lot of you will flame and call me a liar...I'll just say that the difference in times was more than I thought they would be and that it was done on the same night, back to back and that I was there.;)

Where did he get it from?

Okay so now that we've established that the Co2 is less expensive, then how would one piece a kit together? I wonder if the Nitrous Express kit could utilize Co2 in the bottle rather than the No2?

This would make since if that would work. Otherwise, you would have to re-invent the wheel and source the parts.

He's a vendor...so probably a distributor...but I'm not sure at all.

Originally posted by tmarcel
Okay so now that we've established that the Co2 is less expensive, then how would one piece a kit together? I wonder if the Nitrous Express kit could utilize Co2 in the bottle rather than the No2?

This would make since if that would work. Otherwise, you would have to re-invent the wheel and source the parts.

From the NX web site.....For supercharged or turbo applications where nitrous is not an option, NX offers another alternative, the “N-tercooler”. Using either nitrous or "CO2" this unit can reduce air inlet temperatures dramatically. In a recent dyno test, a turbocharged Honda, equipped with an NX “N-tercooler ”, increased its baseline by an astounding 52 horsepower! If it makes horsepower, it must be Nitrous Express!

If some people want this kit, let's do a "group buy". Anyone up for that?

I am interested in a group buy depending on how much cheaper the cost will be

"Nitrous bottles do not need to be hydrostatically tested."


any bottle that holds ANY form of gas has to be tested every five years....
do believe it...call N.O.S
www.nosnitrous.com

It's not a big deal. I have my S.C.U.B.A tanks check every year.

Originally posted by Dori Dori
A friend of mine has it down here in South Fl.

I'm not going to post the difference in times b/c I know a lot of you will flame and call me a liar...I'll just say that the difference in times was more than I thought they would be and that it was done on the same night, back to back and that I was there.;)

Please let me know what kind of performance difference he sees using this product. I also live is S.Florida and by the time I get to race my intercooler is already warm from the stagging lanes. This may be my answer.
I promise not to call you a lier.:)

Originally posted by Dori Dori
He's a vendor...so probably a distributor...but I'm not sure at all.

Which vendor is he? I'd like to pick one of these up soon.

I wonder how hard it would be to adapt these types of systems to use Liquid Nitrogen.

That would be really cool, of course at that temp a fast moving pebble would shatter the IC...

For all the techs and physics guys, what would happen if you tried to rig that up?

-Paul

Originally posted by Mach5WRX


Which vendor is he? I'd like to pick one of these up soon.

They sell them on the NX website. They go for $500. Thats a lot of money. For $989. you can get the monster top mount intercooler from Turboxs. Thats cooling effect will be there 100% of the time unlike the short blast NX will provide.
If I get NOS it will probably be going into the intercooler not on top of it.:D

Originally posted by SGOSWRX


They sell them on the NX website. They go for $500. Thats a lot of money. For $989. you can get the monster top mount intercooler from Turboxs. Thats cooling effect will be there 100% of the time unlike the short blast NX will provide.
If I get NOS it will probably be going into the intercooler not on top of it.:D

The nopi site has them for like $320 bucks. They just want $80 to ship it to me in hawaii. I'm just trying to find a better deal on shipping.
Thanks.

:confused:

Once again, Does any know where I can get this kit other than the NX and Nopi site?

I really want to use this kit here in hawaii to see if it helps our 1/4 at all.

Originally posted by Mach5WRX


The nopi site has them for like $320 bucks. They just want $80 to ship it to me in hawaii. I'm just trying to find a better deal on shipping.
Thanks.

:confused:

Once again, Does any know where I can get this kit other than the NX and Nopi site?

I really want to use this kit here in hawaii to see if it helps our 1/4 at all.

Wow, $320 thats a good price. Is it a universal setup or one specifically made for our WRX?
I wouldn't want to rig it up.
I am sure it would help you in the 1/4 mile. I would love for someone to get it first and then tell me how good if works.:devil:

Did anyone on this Forum actually tried it on a WRX ?!?! Not that we don't trust manufacturer clam but.... 52HP is that WHP ?

"turbocharged Honda, equipped with an NX “N-tercooler ”, increased its baseline by an astounding 52 horsepower!" -nitrousexpress.com



Thx !

I contacted NX express and asked if they could produce any dyno results or how cars with this mod performed. One of their reps emailed me back and told me that a honda did indeed get 51 hp @wheels. He also told me he did not have dyno stats but if I gave him some time he was sure he could produce some. I also asked if fitting was easy for a WRX and he told me it would be simple.

can someone tell me where the intercooler kit is on the nopi site? I feel retarded....

oh wow...found it...now i REALLY feel retarded

Originally posted by digga
oh wow...found it...now i REALLY feel retarded

:eek: :lol:

Originally posted by weric
Did anyone on this Forum actually tried it on a WRX ?!?! Not that we don't trust manufacturer clam but.... 52HP is that WHP ?

"turbocharged Honda, equipped with an NX “N-tercooler ”, increased its baseline by an astounding 52 horsepower!" -nitrousexpress.com



Thx !

If you go back to page 1 of this thread Dori Dori said she had a friend down here in S.Forida that has used it on their WRX. She said it made a big difference but was afraid to tell use how much of a difference because we wouldn't believe her.
It would be nice if her friend - the one with the nx n-tercooler would post his results for us - or have Dori Dori do it.
I am extremely interested in what kind of difference it made. This could very well explain how the guy ran 12.8 @ 108mph in P.R on the stock turbo.

Originally posted by Mach5WRX


:eek: :lol:

I looked for a few minutes and also didn't find it. Where is it? What is the part number?
Thanks:confused:

go to universal items -> performance ->nitrous -> nitrous express -> ntercooler

Or click on this.....http://www.nopionline.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=dspparts&vL1ID=9&vL2ID=46&vL3ID=161&vL4ID=652&vL5ID=43&vTitle=Performance Nitrous NITROUS EXPRESS Nitrous Systems%20N%2Dter%20Cooler%20Chiller

If they really want to sell those "Cooler Chiller Nitrous System" they need to show us real Dyno results !!!!


Give us the numbers on a WRX and maybe they will start selling "N-Ter" kit like hot cakes.....


I'm thinking about it :eek:

i made my own kit and it seems to work well but kinda pricy.i have a white wrx with a old dry n20 kit i pieced together and added 2 nos tubes in the trunk also and the setup seems more visually stunning than power gains.but it does help when hot and humid,and when no ice time is avail.

:eek: i also tried the n20 kit on the dyno and made 11 xtra hp. but bottle pressure was low,juice ran out.but its proof it works.maybe11hp isnt much but it increase reliability of temps

So maybe they emptied the 5lb Nitrous Bottle on to the intercooler be able to get their clamed 52hp ?

11hp is not a big gain.

Originally posted by weric
11hp is not a big gain.

Well I paid $220 for my intake and got maybe 4HP( if that?) from it. I'd pay around $320 for 11 HP. What's the average $ to power ratio?

not only you gained 4HP but I'm sure you have better gas mileage too ! 11HP is not 50HP...

$220=4HP
$320=11HP
Hmmmm, which one is the better deal?
:rolleyes:

http://www.skspeed.com/viewSCAT.asp?scat_desc=Nitrous%20Oxide = $369.95

http://www.advancedperformanceengineering.com/accessories.htm = $374

Mach5WRX,

These guys might be cheaper on shipping to Paradise...

Richard...

Mike from Motormatrix sells these and he had it on his car before his tranny broke and had to sell his aftermarket parts to get a new tranny. He claimed he picked up 2/10th's in the 1320, and he sells them for about $350. They provide great service, I bought an uppipe from them and I won't hesitate to do business with Motormatrix again.

I called motormatrix today. They gave me the best shipping quote of $35 but they want to sell the kit for $399 :eek: So if I go with nopi I'll still save $30 paying the $80 they want for shipping.:rolleyes:
I'm going to get this thing as soon as I find the best deal. I'll keep you all informed.

Can't wait to see if it's wort it !

Well I bought the NX Ntercooler kit. I found a place on the big island of Hawaii that has the kit for $350 and they are shipping it for $20. $370 is the best price I've found. I should have the kit by Tuesday and hopefully it will be in my car by Friday night for the track. I'll keep you all posted. Can't wait to see if this works.:D

"Go Speedracer, Go!!!" Sorry Mach5, couldn't resist... :D

Seriously though, let me know when you're going to hit the track! I'd love to be there for your inaugural mid 13-second blast down the 1/4! :)

Yeah !!! Post your numbers before and after......

Got my “N-tercooler” kit today.:D

C-mon Danmit !!!! post your first impression :confused:

Originally posted by weric
C-mon Danmit !!!! post your first impression :confused:

First impression of the kit........Well It comes with everything you need to install the kit, except instructions. After a phone call to NX tech support they faxed the instructions to me.
The cooling ring fits very nicely over the stock TMIC. There is only about 1/2" of over hang on each side. But I come back to reality quick and realize this is a "universal" kit and not made for the WRX. The outlet holes for the spray are on the outside of the ring! Not the inside like I had hoped. Which would lead me to believe this kit was made for much bigger intercoolers than my stock TMIC. So I'm going to call tomorrow and see if it's cool to drill some holes on the inside of the ring to spray more of the center of the intercooler.
So far I'm still happy and glad I took a risk. Hopefully this works out ok.:devil: As soon as I get time to do the install, I'll let you all know how it goes.

Originally posted by Mach5WRX


First impression of the kit........Well It comes with everything you need to install the kit, except instructions. After a phone call to NX tech support they faxed the instructions to me.
The cooling ring fits very nicely over the stock TMIC. There is only about 1/2" of over hang on each side. But I come back to reality quick and realize this is a "universal" kit and not made for the WRX. The outlet holes for the spray are on the outside of the ring! Not the inside like I had hoped. Which would lead me to believe this kit was made for much bigger intercoolers than my stock TMIC. So I'm going to call tomorrow and see if it's cool to drill some holes on the inside of the ring to spray more of the center of the intercooler.
So far I'm still happy and glad I took a risk. Hopefully this works out ok.:devil: As soon as I get time to do the install, I'll let you all know how it goes.

Let me know how it works out. I just installed Turboxs's new intercooler. Its a beast. My car pulls much harder in the mid range. I can't wait to test it out at the track. The NX kit may work good with the new intercooler.
Question. Where do you mount it? My intercooler now sits up inside the hood scoop where before it sat underneath.

Here's a up-date.
I can't use the spray ring that came with the kit, but I just got off the phone with NX. They make a ring for the WRX and they are going to send me one.
I can't use the ring that came with the kit because the spray holes are on the outside of the ring and also because of the way you have to mount the solenoid. I would not be able to close my hood.
So I should have this kit installed and be able to make my first 1/4 pass with it in about 2 weeks.
maybe.......

and... did you try it ? is it wort the money ?

Originally posted by Mach5WRX
Here's a up-date.
I can't use the spray ring that came with the kit, but I just got off the phone with NX. They make a ring for the WRX and they are going to send me one.
I can't use the ring that came with the kit because the spray holes are on the outside of the ring and also because of the way you have to mount the solenoid. I would not be able to close my hood.
So I should have this kit installed and be able to make my first 1/4 pass with it in about 2 weeks.
maybe.......

I'm still waiting to find out how it is mounted to the intercooler. What holds it in place? I'm not sure if it would work with Turboxs new intercooler. I don't have much room above my intercooler. It sits up high in the hood scoop.

Maybe you need to cut the ruber around the Air scoop...

It's going to be about 2 weeks before I get the " WRX " spray ring.

Anyone see this yet?

http://forums.i-club.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=222379

Bill

It was my car that the NX N-tercooler kit was on. It fit under my hood with no problem and it fit my intercooler fine since it wasnt stock.My friend has a stock intercooler and it fit under his. he just put a notch in the side of the intercooler so the ring set flush on the fins.the problem that i had with it is that the bottle didint last very long since it has 32 holes on the ring. I got maybe 2-3 runs on it. I tried having the holes spray direct on the intercooler but its such i fine mist that it doesnt cool enough area. The idea of it misting over top of the intercooler is so that the air that comes thru the scoop pushes the n20 or co2 over the entire intercooler. Never the less I got 2/10 off my 1/4 mile time with it. But i got 1 full secong off spraying a wet kit thru the throttle body so I went with the wet system. Mach5,Good luck with your kit and maybe it will be better than the generic kit. Oh and the price on the kit is 335.00.Mach 5,I was misquoted by NX on the price when you called to order from us. I knew something was wrong but they swore that was the price. sorry.

YO !!!!

Did you have the chance to try it @ the track ???


let me see the numbers...:rolleyes:

i have the nx setup and its not worth the $ to me i saw no power gains but cooler running temp on the i/c which should do something but not for that $$

YO !!!!

Did you have the chance to try it @ the track ???


let me see the numbers...:rolleyes:


so...? numbers? and before you start crapping my post; this thread should have been finished with some numbers. so i didnt see no numbers so i am bring this bitch back

subscribe:)

Seriously you can buy a Co2 bottle at your local paintball shop for 30-40 at the most. Buy a grill burner kit at sears (the ring with holes goes on your intercooler) 30-40 at the most... Now all we need is a reliable solienoid (sp?) to open and close and your good to go...

Let's see some homebrew kits.

like 3 years old!!!

I heard they showed nogains on a dyno...